There's something interesting in the Joyner-derived link. Steven Taylor:
Part of the problem with all of this, and why the debate no doubt will continue, is that the we treat "al Qaeda" like it is a strong institution like the Lions Club that has bylaws, a governance structure and clear membership lists. However, this is not the case: is it is a somewhat elusive and loosely constructed group of terrorists.
Granting that al Qaeda is amorphous should also prompt us to acknowledge that 'did so-and-so aid al Qaeda?' does not admit of a clean answer; the real question is how much and in what way, and what response this warrants. The vaguer is al Qaeda, the cheaper the link to Saddam, and the less justificatory force it has.
Something tells me that the administration will not be completely forthright in sorting out these issues.
You 'guys' and snuggly-boop, keep up the groupthink hug thing.
America would have been justified in removing Saddam prior to 911.
Saddam lost gulf war one. He did not follow through with his terms for losing.
Perhaps some of the groupthink cult here were against gulf war one. Perhaps.
1. How many of this groupthink cult here would have pulled America out of the no fly zones PRIOR TO 911?
2. Is a decade not long enough to demand the loser (that would be Saddam to those in the fog here) to follow through? How many sorties between the 'end' of GW1 and 911?
Even if you believe W, Ashcroft, Halliburtan, Cheny, WalMart and Michael Jackson are satanic why not ask the better question.....or two...... why did we not viscerally confront Saddam before 911? Why was the attack on WTC1 and Cole treated as a foul in a hockey fight?
Answer: The current left is even more left than Carter. That's it.
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Posted by [redacted] | Link to this comment | 06-16-04 9:46 AM
There's something interesting in the Joyner-derived link. Steven Taylor:
Granting that al Qaeda is amorphous should also prompt us to acknowledge that 'did so-and-so aid al Qaeda?' does not admit of a clean answer; the real question is how much and in what way, and what response this warrants. The vaguer is al Qaeda, the cheaper the link to Saddam, and the less justificatory force it has.
Something tells me that the administration will not be completely forthright in sorting out these issues.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 06-16-04 12:03 PM
That's a great point. Worthy of its own post, even!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-16-04 12:14 PM
You 'guys' and snuggly-boop, keep up the groupthink hug thing.
America would have been justified in removing Saddam prior to 911.
Saddam lost gulf war one. He did not follow through with his terms for losing.
Perhaps some of the groupthink cult here were against gulf war one. Perhaps.
1. How many of this groupthink cult here would have pulled America out of the no fly zones PRIOR TO 911?
2. Is a decade not long enough to demand the loser (that would be Saddam to those in the fog here) to follow through? How many sorties between the 'end' of GW1 and 911?
Even if you believe W, Ashcroft, Halliburtan, Cheny, WalMart and Michael Jackson are satanic why not ask the better question.....or two...... why did we not viscerally confront Saddam before 911? Why was the attack on WTC1 and Cole treated as a foul in a hockey fight?
Answer: The current left is even more left than Carter. That's it.
Is Condi evil?
The fog here is overwhelming.
Posted by abc123 | Link to this comment | 06-16-04 6:30 PM
Author said:
You can torture "ties" "links" "relations" and "connections" as long as you want ...
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Cut to the point....Iraq lost gulf war one.
We've had most of the country under 'no-fly' zones for over a decade.
NO ONE EVER SUGGESTED REMOVING THE NO FLY ZONES.
911 woke up at least one 'moran'.
BTW, and I'm serious, W is the only Democrat running. The fog here proves it with each post.
Posted by abc123 | Link to this comment | 06-16-04 6:41 PM
Odd. I can see quite clearly in here. Not a bit of fog.
Not only is Cheney a liar, but he is almost certainly a war profiteer and convicted-felon-to-be. Pass the popcorn.
Posted by tcb or tcb3 | Link to this comment | 06-16-04 10:15 PM