Oops. I read "apostropher" and for some reason my brain thought "Fontana Labs". And FL has clearly revealed that he doesn't know from "the city". Hence the snark. I'm sure apostropher knows all about using "the city" properly.
Sorry for the mix-up. Which, for some reason, is one I've made before. Has anyone ever seen apostropher and FL together?
live as in where my physical being is stuck and gets paid most of the time, or the much more interesting places that seem to house my mind and spirit? :)
this is definitely rigged against those of us who live in the South, but don't want to be identified with Texas (so I chose "other")
since there still seems to be some confusion on the subject, Washington, D.C. ("A Capital City") is never referred to as "the City", always "the District", which I believe is unique.
The DC comment was made in a spirit of silliness, much like everything else I write. Speaking as one of the 'South' votes, though, I've never considered Texas to be part of the South. It's really its own distinct region. This North Carolinian would like not to be lumped in with Alabama and Mississippi (and, to be fair, parts of NC), but you don't get to choose your family. In any event, we're in third place! Yee-haw!
I got the silliness. I just had that idea kicking around when I saw you guys talking about "the City" previously. I didn't say anything at the time, but, since you were still talking about it, I thought I'd strike while the Meme was still hot.
Maybe we're looking at machine politics in San Francisco. Are you sure there wasn't any double/triple/etc. voting going on? Those West Coasters can't be trusted, you know.
I didn't get to vote! I'm enraged over the South coming in fifth! I've been disenfranchised! It is time for the Apostropher and I to secede and declare war until Ogged begins blogging red state interests. (fried things and pie, and hunting, can't think of much else...oh, and vegetables shaped like profiles of Elvis...or thingies)
Some of us have busy lives, you know? Failing to convince you there, the truth is I actually don't have internet at home, and my commenting after your posts is strictly par hazard.
Anyway, where'd you get that excerpt from my autobiography?
True. But, you could still find out what your repeat IPs were, and then see how many of them actually came by the site during the time the poll was active.
Hey, I couldn't let you so blatantly show me up, right?
Of course then you'd have to figure out if the mid-week visitors over whatever period of time you had the poll up are themselves representative of the whole. In fact I think you should just send me server logs for the past year and pay me a ridiculously large fee to analyze the traffic.
What I really wanted to know was where the people who like to take online polls, and were reading Unfogged between Tuesday and Wednesday, live. The results are unimpeachable.
Seriously, I would have left it up a lot longer, but the weird color effect was even obscuring subsequent posts, and that was annoying.
(Yes, there were subsequent posts that I then took down.)
What time of day did you first put up the poll, and what time of day did you pull it? If you put up the poll during a time when more west coasters than easterners or midwesterners were awake, and pulled it before the "exposure time" had a chance to get more even you could get skewed results.
I'm confused. There's no entry for "the city".
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 9:34 PM
It's abbreviated: D(a) C(ity).
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 9:40 PM
Hm...I wonder if he could break down those of us who live in San Francisco, as opposed to "SF Bay."
Man, I've only lived here eight months and I'm already a psycho urban snob.
Posted by Dan | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 9:55 PM
It's abbreviated: D(a) C(ity).
Oh, what would you know about it???
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 10:02 PM
Oops. I read "apostropher" and for some reason my brain thought "Fontana Labs". And FL has clearly revealed that he doesn't know from "the city". Hence the snark. I'm sure apostropher knows all about using "the city" properly.
Sorry for the mix-up. Which, for some reason, is one I've made before. Has anyone ever seen apostropher and FL together?
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 10:10 PM
Do you mean "live" as in, "where I get my mail," or do you mean "live" as in, "where my friends are and which local paper I read"?
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 10:17 PM
I don't live close enough to any big enough cities to use the phrase at all. Which I suppose, then, is proper usage in my case.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 10:20 PM
I second Dan's remarks about SF Bay. I don't want to be confused with those psycho urban snobs.
Posted by aj | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 10:24 PM
following prof-B's question ...
live as in where my physical being is stuck and gets paid most of the time, or the much more interesting places that seem to house my mind and spirit? :)
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 10:33 PM
"Live in," as in "where you get your mail." Maybe the next poll can be about where folks would rather be.
I see one person answering Chicago. I know for a fact that Wolfson and Unf both live there. Lord, he can't even be bothered to read the thing anymore.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-14-04 11:34 PM
this is definitely rigged against those of us who live in the South, but don't want to be identified with Texas (so I chose "other")
since there still seems to be some confusion on the subject, Washington, D.C. ("A Capital City") is never referred to as "the City", always "the District", which I believe is unique.
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 7:40 AM
You should install a HitMap to see where folks are. I love mine.
Posted by Krista | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 8:00 AM
mike d,
The DC comment was made in a spirit of silliness, much like everything else I write. Speaking as one of the 'South' votes, though, I've never considered Texas to be part of the South. It's really its own distinct region. This North Carolinian would like not to be lumped in with Alabama and Mississippi (and, to be fair, parts of NC), but you don't get to choose your family. In any event, we're in third place! Yee-haw!
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 8:10 AM
Or, uh, we were when I looked last night. No longer.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 8:12 AM
Kotsko lives in (the vicinity of) Chicago, too, you know.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 8:21 AM
'Post':
I got the silliness. I just had that idea kicking around when I saw you guys talking about "the City" previously. I didn't say anything at the time, but, since you were still talking about it, I thought I'd strike while the Meme was still hot.
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 8:44 AM
I bet at least half of the "Midwest" voters actually live in Chicago, and just voted as they did because that was the first accurate option they saw.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 11:10 AM
Chicago was the second option on the list, before "Midwest."
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 11:12 AM
You can see the poll here.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 11:13 AM
Midwesterners read from the bottom up, duh.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 11:21 AM
Maybe we're looking at machine politics in San Francisco. Are you sure there wasn't any double/triple/etc. voting going on? Those West Coasters can't be trusted, you know.
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 11:54 AM
I did set the poll to block multiple votes from the same IP address, so even though I think you're kidding, no, that's probably not the explanation.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 11:56 AM
As far as the poster's dilemma, I think you ignore us red-staters in the heartland at your peril.
Posted by cw | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 12:17 PM
It is a bit worrying that the whole of the world outside of the US comes under "Other"...
Makes it hard to be specific....
Posted by Matt McGrattan | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 2:28 PM
I had to cut off the list somehow, and honestly, I just wasn't expecting very many in that category. Wrong, apparently.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 2:30 PM
I didn't get to vote! I'm enraged over the South coming in fifth! I've been disenfranchised! It is time for the Apostropher and I to secede and declare war until Ogged begins blogging red state interests. (fried things and pie, and hunting, can't think of much else...oh, and vegetables shaped like profiles of Elvis...or thingies)
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 3:16 PM
There we were, just me and my cousins, sitting on the riverbank, sipping sweet tea, naked and sunburnt...
Like that?
And where the hell were you Michael? You usually comment about 15 seconds after I post.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 3:21 PM
Some of us have busy lives, you know? Failing to convince you there, the truth is I actually don't have internet at home, and my commenting after your posts is strictly par hazard.
Anyway, where'd you get that excerpt from my autobiography?
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 3:35 PM
I could have voted from at least 13 IP addresses, and probably more if I put some thought into it.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:00 PM
if you did that for an unfogged survey, the recommendations for psychological treatment would no longer be centered on ogged.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:02 PM
Not to mention that, thanks to the wonders of DHCP, I could just restart my computer a lot.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:13 PM
Actually, that "fifth of the readers" bit is odd—how many unique repeat visitors do you get? Surely more than 112?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:44 PM
That's why we're calling it a representative sample.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:46 PM
True. But, you could still find out what your repeat IPs were, and then see how many of them actually came by the site during the time the poll was active.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:49 PM
Jesus Christ, Ben.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:51 PM
Hey, I couldn't let you so blatantly show me up, right?
Of course then you'd have to figure out if the mid-week visitors over whatever period of time you had the poll up are themselves representative of the whole. In fact I think you should just send me server logs for the past year and pay me a ridiculously large fee to analyze the traffic.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 4:57 PM
What I really wanted to know was where the people who like to take online polls, and were reading Unfogged between Tuesday and Wednesday, live. The results are unimpeachable.
Seriously, I would have left it up a lot longer, but the weird color effect was even obscuring subsequent posts, and that was annoying.
(Yes, there were subsequent posts that I then took down.)
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-15-04 5:04 PM
I'm surprised there are that many midwesterns with internet access.
Also, Dali's not on the red line, Ogged. For the lesbian commuter crowd, try the Diesel Cafe.
Posted by Pedro | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 12:07 AM
Oops. Diesel Cafe.
Posted by Pedro | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 12:11 AM
Dali's not on the red line, Ogged.
Not "on," I can charitably grant, but the red line is what one takes if one is taking the T to get to Dali.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 1:21 AM
What time of day did you first put up the poll, and what time of day did you pull it? If you put up the poll during a time when more west coasters than easterners or midwesterners were awake, and pulled it before the "exposure time" had a chance to get more even you could get skewed results.
And I'm not in either the US or Canada.
Posted by rc | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 6:00 AM
I think the Singapore vote was definitely suppressed.
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 6:35 AM
All of us in the Midwest are strangled by this culture in Midwestern states!
Posted by larry ziegler | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 9:39 AM
Germany, thus other.
Posted by Doug | Link to this comment | 12-16-04 8:06 PM
I used to live about a block from Dali. Never went there.
Posted by Matthew McIrvin | Link to this comment | 12-18-04 9:56 PM