Nah, just the same old Southern brand your parents remember. Everything from busing to flouridated water to the designated hitter rule is a communist plot for a certain demographic down here. Nothing special about it, except in the "short bus" sense of the word.
I stopped for gas once in an out-of-the-way town in Mississippi. The guy at the next pump had a huge (like, car-door sized) sticker on his pickup that said "Bill Clinton, the Democratic Party, and Communist China: taking away your guns and destroying your children's future."
And he kept grinning at me as I gaped at it, as if to say "oh yeah? Top that craziness, Yankee!"
For your information, Apostropher, we of the north can be just as insane: when I lived in Ithaca (not so long ago, really) the big debate was about flouridated water. Far left has looped around and met the far right...
Can someone please tell me why Dem political advisors are trying to get us to "run strong" in the South? Can't we please look at a damn map and realize that we could get the Executive with the SW states, even absent Ohio? Can we find a single reasonable Democratic candidate who can appropriate the Union/Rebel rhetoric and use it against the Republicans? It's not like the entire fucking leadership of their party doesn't have tenuous ties to some fairly scary people. Is there a single fucking candidate who will make "Fuck the South, we'll do it without them" the first plank of his campaign?
(Sadly, the answer is probably, "No." And thus we're pretty much guaranteed to lose again. Cripes.)
My name is Kyle Rogers. I am on the national board of directors for the CofCC. I also run the Charleston, SC chapter and the SC CofCC webpage. http://www.heritagelost.org
Once again I see a bunch of people calling the CofCC childish names, but presenting no factual arguments. Name calling is all you people have.
I live in Charleston, SC. It is a city made up of people from all over the country. The population is very paleo-conservative. They are angry at leftism and Bush's neo-conservatism. They are furious over America's insane immigration policies. They are tired of having multi-culturalism shoved down their throats. The people I talk to over-whelmingly support the CofCC's views. Especially the young, who are supposed to be on the left. I talk to college aged men and women every day who whole-heartedly support the agenda of the Council. If the anonymous posters on this board only knew the high level politcians who are either card carrying members and/or meeting with CofCC leadership, you'd probably throw a rod or two.
Yes, blacks are welcome to join the CofCC.
By the way, the fastest growing state for CofCC membership is blue state Illinois. We are doing quite well in NY as well.
Although, to be fair, he could mean "We went from 1 to 3 members- that's a 200% increase!"
If the anonymous posters on this board only knew the high level politcians who are either card carrying members and/or meeting with CofCC leadership, you'd probably throw a rod or two.
Don't you be tanglin' with us, boy. We are legion. (spit) (dang)
Speaking personally, I am a white European Celt and a large part of my heritage is mocking people like this. However, I would like to stress that I see the custom of mockery as one which is not exclusive to my own race, but can be readily adopted by members of any other racial groups out there.
Well Kyle, for starters, I'm not anonymous. I'm also a native North Carolinian. The history of the CofCC speaks for itself, sir. You guys are a bunch of racists. That isn't childish name-calling; that's calling a spade a spade.
blacks are welcome to join the CofCC.
Yeah? How many you got down there? By the way, is that you posting as Valhalla on the Stormfront message board or somebody else using your group's website as their signature line? I don't know why anybody might suspect y'all of being racist.
Man, this is too entertaining. I promise I'll give it a rest after this comment. Not only is the word racism an invention of the communists, but from the link in the comment above: "The kkk & neo-nazis in America are a tool of the left-wing."
We run everything, baby! It's only a matter of time before you're ours, Kyle.
If the anonymous posters on this board only knew the high level politcians who are either card carrying members and/or meeting with CofCC leadership, you'd probably throw a rod or two.
So tell us who they are, Kyle. Or are you ashamed of your membership and the people you meet with? Or maybe they, out of shame, asked you not to make their membership/meetings publicly known?
Hilarious outliers like Kyle aside, it's startling the degree to which sentiment in the south is motivated by opposition to "multi-culturalism" and "feminism." As if one could oppose these "positions" without proponing another one.
I'm not sure what you mean, Kriston. Why aren't the alternatives just a slightly toned-down "stick to your own kind" and "there are defined gender roles?"
Because these alternatives are pursued in public policy (by the GOP) in aggressive tones. These alternatives tend to get tied up in a lowest common denominator effect that rewards, to a certain degree, strongly voiced conservative backlash-ism. Get the lesbians out of our high school bathrooms, etc.
Are we disagreeing? I probably wasn't clear. You said that one can't oppose feminism and multi-culturalism without proposing alternatives. What I meant to say is that there there are proposed alternatives, namely, support for "traditional" gender roles, and sympathy for grouping by "cultural affinity." So, are we disagreeing?
I don't think we disagree, though I see that I wasn't clear with my initial point. The language that is used frequently in the south assumes that something is being done to conservatives or the south or the family (to take an example from Kyle: "multi-culturalism shoved down our throats") and they want other people to stop doing this to them. I was saying that that the southern traditional viewpoint in fact wants to overturn precedent and values rather than defend existing ones. Revanchists in traditionalists clothing. (And, yeah, I'm lumping broadly here.)
Choice.
Moore said he didn't know anything about the group's position on race.
"If I find out for certain they are a racist organization, I am going to confront them," he said.
"You hear that the NAACP is racist, but that wouldn't keep me from talking to them," Moore said.
Mighty big of you, asshole.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 4:30 PM
a special Southern brand of crazy
Nah, just the same old Southern brand your parents remember. Everything from busing to flouridated water to the designated hitter rule is a communist plot for a certain demographic down here. Nothing special about it, except in the "short bus" sense of the word.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 4:44 PM
I stopped for gas once in an out-of-the-way town in Mississippi. The guy at the next pump had a huge (like, car-door sized) sticker on his pickup that said "Bill Clinton, the Democratic Party, and Communist China: taking away your guns and destroying your children's future."
And he kept grinning at me as I gaped at it, as if to say "oh yeah? Top that craziness, Yankee!"
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 6:57 PM
Holy crow. He really needs to blog for us.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 7:00 PM
Top that craziness, Yankee!
George W. Bush, the Republican Party, and Nazi Germany: locking up your kids and making goddamn sure you worship the OneTrueGod™.
A'ight, hoss. Your turn. Oh, and you call me a Yankee again and I'll knock your dick in the dirt.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 7:50 PM
Did you know that Eisenhower was "a conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy?
Posted by aj | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 9:10 PM
For your information, Apostropher, we of the north can be just as insane: when I lived in Ithaca (not so long ago, really) the big debate was about flouridated water. Far left has looped around and met the far right...
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 9:14 PM
Far left has looped around and met the far right..
Is Fontana secretly abc????
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 9:37 PM
"Everything from busing to flouridated water to the designated hitter rule is a communist plot for a certain demographic down here."
Well let's be honest...the DH is kinda pinko...and definitly the tool of satan...
Posted by JFT | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 9:41 PM
Cripes.
Can someone please tell me why Dem political advisors are trying to get us to "run strong" in the South? Can't we please look at a damn map and realize that we could get the Executive with the SW states, even absent Ohio? Can we find a single reasonable Democratic candidate who can appropriate the Union/Rebel rhetoric and use it against the Republicans? It's not like the entire fucking leadership of their party doesn't have tenuous ties to some fairly scary people. Is there a single fucking candidate who will make "Fuck the South, we'll do it without them" the first plank of his campaign?
(Sadly, the answer is probably, "No." And thus we're pretty much guaranteed to lose again. Cripes.)
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 01-24-05 10:30 PM
My name is Kyle Rogers. I am on the national board of directors for the CofCC. I also run the Charleston, SC chapter and the SC CofCC webpage. http://www.heritagelost.org
Once again I see a bunch of people calling the CofCC childish names, but presenting no factual arguments. Name calling is all you people have.
I live in Charleston, SC. It is a city made up of people from all over the country. The population is very paleo-conservative. They are angry at leftism and Bush's neo-conservatism. They are furious over America's insane immigration policies. They are tired of having multi-culturalism shoved down their throats. The people I talk to over-whelmingly support the CofCC's views. Especially the young, who are supposed to be on the left. I talk to college aged men and women every day who whole-heartedly support the agenda of the Council. If the anonymous posters on this board only knew the high level politcians who are either card carrying members and/or meeting with CofCC leadership, you'd probably throw a rod or two.
Yes, blacks are welcome to join the CofCC.
By the way, the fastest growing state for CofCC membership is blue state Illinois. We are doing quite well in NY as well.
Posted by Kyle Rogers | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 12:14 AM
By the way, the fastest growing state for CofCC membership is Illinois.
Must...resist...inevitable...Blues...Brothers...quote...
Although, to be fair, he could mean "We went from 1 to 3 members- that's a 200% increase!"
If the anonymous posters on this board only knew the high level politcians who are either card carrying members and/or meeting with CofCC leadership, you'd probably throw a rod or two.
Don't you be tanglin' with us, boy. We are legion. (spit) (dang)
Speaking personally, I am a white European Celt and a large part of my heritage is mocking people like this. However, I would like to stress that I see the custom of mockery as one which is not exclusive to my own race, but can be readily adopted by members of any other racial groups out there.
Posted by ajay | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 2:59 AM
Well Kyle, for starters, I'm not anonymous. I'm also a native North Carolinian. The history of the CofCC speaks for itself, sir. You guys are a bunch of racists. That isn't childish name-calling; that's calling a spade a spade.
blacks are welcome to join the CofCC.
Yeah? How many you got down there? By the way, is that you posting as Valhalla on the Stormfront message board or somebody else using your group's website as their signature line? I don't know why anybody might suspect y'all of being racist.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 3:13 AM
Also, be sure to read about Kyle's attempts to recruit women on hotornot.com "to build a mass movement to defend the white race."
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 3:19 AM
Man, this is too entertaining. I promise I'll give it a rest after this comment. Not only is the word racism an invention of the communists, but from the link in the comment above: "The kkk & neo-nazis in America are a tool of the left-wing."
We run everything, baby! It's only a matter of time before you're ours, Kyle.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 3:50 AM
If the anonymous posters on this board only knew the high level politcians who are either card carrying members and/or meeting with CofCC leadership, you'd probably throw a rod or two.
So tell us who they are, Kyle. Or are you ashamed of your membership and the people you meet with? Or maybe they, out of shame, asked you not to make their membership/meetings publicly known?
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 6:46 AM
I am an anonymous program posting from the Matrix. Can programs be racist? "Racist" is a word. What matters is the feeling.
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 7:11 AM
Hilarious outliers like Kyle aside, it's startling the degree to which sentiment in the south is motivated by opposition to "multi-culturalism" and "feminism." As if one could oppose these "positions" without proponing another one.
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 9:35 AM
I'm not sure what you mean, Kriston. Why aren't the alternatives just a slightly toned-down "stick to your own kind" and "there are defined gender roles?"
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 9:39 AM
Because these alternatives are pursued in public policy (by the GOP) in aggressive tones. These alternatives tend to get tied up in a lowest common denominator effect that rewards, to a certain degree, strongly voiced conservative backlash-ism. Get the lesbians out of our high school bathrooms, etc.
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 9:54 AM
Are we disagreeing? I probably wasn't clear. You said that one can't oppose feminism and multi-culturalism without proposing alternatives. What I meant to say is that there there are proposed alternatives, namely, support for "traditional" gender roles, and sympathy for grouping by "cultural affinity." So, are we disagreeing?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 9:59 AM
I don't think we disagree, though I see that I wasn't clear with my initial point. The language that is used frequently in the south assumes that something is being done to conservatives or the south or the family (to take an example from Kyle: "multi-culturalism shoved down our throats") and they want other people to stop doing this to them. I was saying that that the southern traditional viewpoint in fact wants to overturn precedent and values rather than defend existing ones. Revanchists in traditionalists clothing. (And, yeah, I'm lumping broadly here.)
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 01-25-05 10:20 AM