Musberger is the racist, if I recall the '68 olympics. Marv Albert is the pervert. But I don't know if "facial" started with either one. I alway thought it was a derivative of "in your face!" which was a 7th grade kind of thing.
But it does have porn undertones. Does the Gayattolah (I know, I spelled it wrong) deliver a facial?
You are, of course, right, ogged. Marv's the perv. And I personally credit him with the now somewhat ubiquitous use of "czar" (as in "czar of the telestrator") in referencing top jobs.
Here's a Kripkean puzzle. Clearly, I *was* refering to "the guy who announced the Knicks" with the rigid designator "Brent Musberger." Should we conclude from this that we can rehabillitate descriptivism, or just that I'm an doofus?
Musberger is the racist, if I recall the '68 olympics. Marv Albert is the pervert. But I don't know if "facial" started with either one. I alway thought it was a derivative of "in your face!" which was a 7th grade kind of thing.
But it does have porn undertones. Does the Gayattolah (I know, I spelled it wrong) deliver a facial?
Posted by benton | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 8:32 PM
Two things remembered fondly from my childhood, both Marv: "He shoots, he scores!" and "Kick save, and a beauty..."
Posted by benton | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 8:35 PM
Baa, baa, baa -
You are, of course, right, ogged. Marv's the perv. And I personally credit him with the now somewhat ubiquitous use of "czar" (as in "czar of the telestrator") in referencing top jobs.
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 8:43 PM
Fuck. Me.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 8:43 PM
That's Tim's way of saying that was him at #3. You got a cookie problem, Tim? That keeps happening to you.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 8:55 PM
Maybe he keeps on posting as someone else.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 8:59 PM
Ogged -
No, I'm just a bit of a moron. I obsessively clean my caches with one of those washer programs; it's just a tick I can't stop.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 9:07 PM
As a pansy-ass non-sports fan, I only pick up porn overtones when I hear someone intone, synopatedly or otherwise, "delivers the... facial."
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 9:09 PM
Tell me you're on a shared computer.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 9:09 PM
It permeated life... "In your face (with a hand in the face)... FACIAL!"
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 03-16-05 9:49 PM
ARGH! I am an idiot!
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 03-17-05 6:55 AM
Here's a Kripkean puzzle. Clearly, I *was* refering to "the guy who announced the Knicks" with the rigid designator "Brent Musberger." Should we conclude from this that we can rehabillitate descriptivism, or just that I'm an doofus?
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 03-17-05 7:14 AM
Speaker meaning vs. semantic meaning, dood. (Shit, I can't remember if "semantic meaning" is the contrast there.)
I think some folks are trying to rehabilitate descriptivism, but I'm on vacation so I'm not going to try to remember who.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 03-17-05 8:53 AM
Scott Soames and Mike Thau I believe are two.
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 03-17-05 9:12 AM
Soames, Finisher of Kripke's Semantic Agenda? No shit. I've really got to read that book.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 03-17-05 9:16 AM