I know it's a tongue-in-cheek post, but, in the tradition of analism we have here at Unfogged, I'd just like to note that you're leading your readers in a questionable assumption here. Ogged's confused rebellion from parents with eccentric behavior. Two other possible explanations a) it is rebellion but rebellion from society and not merely mommy-daddy, or b) it is actually constructive behavior in its own sense; exploring new possibilities.
It's difficult to think of how our kids will rebel because how they see us will always be in a broader social context, and it's predicting what that social context will be that is difficult. (especially since I really should use "social contextS", 'cause it's not going to be singular) If our kids grow up in a more religio-reactionary America, they could very well rebel against what they might see as "liberal flakiness." (Though I'd like to think I'll do a more thorough job of indoctrinating mine) If the social context contines to grow more liberal, then I suppose it's up to you to find your own conserative tendencies, against which they might rebel.
Ogged, your daughter will wear high-heels and bad makeup. She'll probably be a foul-mouthed 3rd wave feminist between 16 and 19, too.
You understand that that's not real? From the "about" page of the journal:
The New Disease is not intended to be a hoax. Its writers are not medical professionals, and the syndromes it reports on are semi-fictional. These syndromes exist at the horizon of what is possible. They occupy territory indicated, but as yet unexplored, by medical science. These diseases are not real, but by semantic contagion we expect they will become so.
Yeah, why not. I'm never going to get to retire anyhow. My older son, who really started watching b-ball intently this year, has three UNC grad parents (including the stepmomma) and was born on-campus at UNC hospitals. After Carolina took an early exit in the ACC tournament, he declared (though, I should note, gingerly and apologetically) that he would henceforth be pulling for UNC AND Duke. Seems all his friends at school were Duke fans and he didn't much care for being on the losing end of those taunts.
I let it slide. He's never attended either school, we live in Durham, my late father went to Duke Medical School, he's only seven, yadda yadda yadda. Well, when Duke got smacked back to Durham by Michigan State (who Carolina later dispatched with ease, natch), he didn't have to go to school to hear a little taunting. He has repented his apostasy and is now back on the one true path.
Glanced at that article, and it reminded me of something. Did you know that (at least according to Kenneth Tynan) Graham Greene won a Graham Greene parody contest (under an assumed name)? Is that not cool?
I read that link, ogged. On that site, Ben H. is clearly...the farthest away from my politics... so I wasn't THAT surprised to see the "Yay Duke" line. Can we agree that cheering for Duke is a pretty good proxy for cheering for Satan and all his Dark Works?
I know it's a tongue-in-cheek post, but, in the tradition of analism we have here at Unfogged, I'd just like to note that you're leading your readers in a questionable assumption here. Ogged's confused rebellion from parents with eccentric behavior. Two other possible explanations a) it is rebellion but rebellion from society and not merely mommy-daddy, or b) it is actually constructive behavior in its own sense; exploring new possibilities.
It's difficult to think of how our kids will rebel because how they see us will always be in a broader social context, and it's predicting what that social context will be that is difficult. (especially since I really should use "social contextS", 'cause it's not going to be singular) If our kids grow up in a more religio-reactionary America, they could very well rebel against what they might see as "liberal flakiness." (Though I'd like to think I'll do a more thorough job of indoctrinating mine) If the social context contines to grow more liberal, then I suppose it's up to you to find your own conserative tendencies, against which they might rebel.
Ogged, your daughter will wear high-heels and bad makeup. She'll probably be a foul-mouthed 3rd wave feminist between 16 and 19, too.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 04- 3-05 7:27 PM
Isn't this similar to asking: what about us will our kids find offensive?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 04- 3-05 8:27 PM
Did anyone click through to the article Matt linked at the end of his post? Jesus H. Christ on a fuckin popsicle stick. Monocerosis. Who knew?
Posted by Walter Sobchak | Link to this comment | 04- 3-05 9:25 PM
You understand that that's not real? From the "about" page of the journal:
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 3-05 9:32 PM
Two main options:
1. Bible-thumping Republican.
2. Duke fan.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 7:15 AM
Apostropher:
If I should ever have kids, and then I die, will you raise those kids?
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 7:17 AM
SCMT, your diction reads like something from the recent winning Mamet parodies.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 7:26 AM
Speaking of monocerosis, this is a really damn good book, though the satire of sexual harassment policies is hackneyed.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 7:36 AM
SCMT,
Yeah, why not. I'm never going to get to retire anyhow. My older son, who really started watching b-ball intently this year, has three UNC grad parents (including the stepmomma) and was born on-campus at UNC hospitals. After Carolina took an early exit in the ACC tournament, he declared (though, I should note, gingerly and apologetically) that he would henceforth be pulling for UNC AND Duke. Seems all his friends at school were Duke fans and he didn't much care for being on the losing end of those taunts.
I let it slide. He's never attended either school, we live in Durham, my late father went to Duke Medical School, he's only seven, yadda yadda yadda. Well, when Duke got smacked back to Durham by Michigan State (who Carolina later dispatched with ease, natch), he didn't have to go to school to hear a little taunting. He has repented his apostasy and is now back on the one true path.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 7:36 AM
Joe D:
Glanced at that article, and it reminded me of something. Did you know that (at least according to Kenneth Tynan) Graham Greene won a Graham Greene parody contest (under an assumed name)? Is that not cool?
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 7:57 AM
You do have to give the Dookies this.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:03 AM
That Duke graduates read books? Um, okay, I'll give them that, but, y'know, not exclusively.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:06 AM
Did you know that (at least according to Kenneth Tynan) Graham Greene won a Graham Greene parody contest (under an assumed name)? Is that not cool?
I didn't, and it is.
It's really something when your writing style is so distinctive that recognizable parody can be made of it.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:06 AM
Be that way, apostropher.
It's really something when your writing style is so distinctive that recognizable parody can be made of it.
But I'm not sure it's a good something.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:07 AM
I read that link, ogged. On that site, Ben H. is clearly...the farthest away from my politics... so I wasn't THAT surprised to see the "Yay Duke" line. Can we agree that cheering for Duke is a pretty good proxy for cheering for Satan and all his Dark Works?
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:26 AM
Yup.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:27 AM
Did you get that Kenneth Tynan bit from his diaries? His observations about literature are not what stay with me from that book.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 8:39 AM
You do have to give the Dookies this.
Big deal, doesn't Adonal Foyle have a book club?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:05 AM
Hey, I'm not going to the mat to defend Duke. I take it back, you guys are right, Grant Hill can't read.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:07 AM
Unfogged Regulars : Duke :: Joe Drymala : New York Yankees
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:07 AM
The thing about the timestamps is this: they don't properly acknowledge New York City as the center of the universe.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:09 AM
I can't believe anyone would have the nerve to criticize the timestamps.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:11 AM
Those Mamet parodies aren't very good.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:12 AM
I think "Mamlet" is better in concept than in execution.
I liked the Baldwin one the best.
And I won't march in lockstep with your timestamp stormtroopers, ogged.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:15 AM
It's an Iranian thing, Joe. You wouldn't understand.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:51 AM
Iran does have that weird half-hour thing.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:55 AM
It's a Persian thing, Apostropher.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 9:55 AM
You guys know about this, right? You may have to reconsider one of your loyalties.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 10:55 AM
Iran does have that weird half-hour thing.
I thought only Newfoundland did that. I guess you learn something new every day.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 04- 4-05 2:28 PM