It was a joke that touched peripherally on the torture issue -- I left a stupid comment that looked as though it were going to reignite the whole weary discussion again, some other people commented, and ogged, sensibly, decided to to delete the post rather than cycle through all the same arguments one more time.
Um, innuendo aside, The Sun made a grave error of judgment. Let's try not to burnish that reputation for humiliating our enemies too much, okey-dokey? Can we all agree on that?
I dunno. I'm OK with the linked picture; at a minimum, I think there are probably important insights to be drawn from the fact that Hussein wears tighty-whities.
This doesn't really bother me that much -- I mean, I guess it depends on the provenance of the picture, and if it was deliberately released it's certainly improper, but it isn't something I can get all that worked up about.
I am very concerned that I may be coming in to the left of LizardBreath on this, but if someone in the U.S. military released this to the press, they are in trouble. Is this as bad as torturing people? Of course not. But it is unambiguously on the list of things that should not be done.
Hey, I said 'certainly improper' -- the day you come into the left of me on anything, I'm going to be doing some serious re-examination of my beliefs, and possibly checking myself into a Trotskyist re-education camp for a tune-up.
the day you come into the left of me on anything, I'm going to be doing some serious re-examination of my beliefs
LB, because I do not want to embarrass you in front of your friends here, I will not describe the many ways in which you are a conservative, non-libertarian Republican.
Posts like this drive me crazy. (You're driving me crazy, ogged!)
Now I want to know what it was about.
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:22 AM
It was a joke that touched peripherally on the torture issue -- I left a stupid comment that looked as though it were going to reignite the whole weary discussion again, some other people commented, and ogged, sensibly, decided to to delete the post rather than cycle through all the same arguments one more time.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:32 AM
It was about you.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:35 AM
Torture is OK! And why do you all hate America?
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:35 AM
Unrelated but necessary item! The BBC reports "US anger at Saddam underwear shot". Caption:
I believe them.Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:48 AM
Um, innuendo aside, The Sun made a grave error of judgment. Let's try not to burnish that reputation for humiliating our enemies too much, okey-dokey? Can we all agree on that?
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:56 AM
Same picture was on the cover of the NY Post. I don't believe they can agree to that.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 8:57 AM
C'mon, we can't humiliate *Saddam Hussein?* Seriously, folks...
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:00 AM
OK: Saddam as Satan's gay lover with an giant, bulbous cock.
Not OK: Saddam in his underoos.
I am totally serious.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:02 AM
*Saddam Hussein?*
Punctuation goes outside the twinkly emphasis.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:05 AM
Also from the article:
No, no, fuck you very much.Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:10 AM
I dunno. I'm OK with the linked picture; at a minimum, I think there are probably important insights to be drawn from the fact that Hussein wears tighty-whities.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:11 AM
This doesn't really bother me that much -- I mean, I guess it depends on the provenance of the picture, and if it was deliberately released it's certainly improper, but it isn't something I can get all that worked up about.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:36 AM
I did not need to know that he wears tighty-whities, but no wonder he wasn't a good leader!
Ogged -- next election you should order up some of those superhero undies for your candidate of choice. Bet they'll win if they wear them.
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:47 AM
I am very concerned that I may be coming in to the left of LizardBreath on this, but if someone in the U.S. military released this to the press, they are in trouble. Is this as bad as torturing people? Of course not. But it is unambiguously on the list of things that should not be done.
Posted by The Idealist | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:52 AM
Hey, I said 'certainly improper' -- the day you come into the left of me on anything, I'm going to be doing some serious re-examination of my beliefs, and possibly checking myself into a Trotskyist re-education camp for a tune-up.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:57 AM
How come the Geneva Convention rules must not be breached but the Geneva Conventions are "quaint?"
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:57 AM
My, but America wakes quickly. All day nothing, then i go out for a while and the place fills up, already.
So "Good morining, America, how are ya?"
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 9:59 AM
I had no idea trains could type.
(Although I suppose I'd been accepting the idea that they could sing...)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 10:00 AM
Suspension of disbelief is all
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 10:02 AM
re: 16
LB said:
the day you come into the left of me on anything, I'm going to be doing some serious re-examination of my beliefs
LB, because I do not want to embarrass you in front of your friends here, I will not describe the many ways in which you are a conservative, non-libertarian Republican.
Posted by The Idealist | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 10:10 AM
I knew it!
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 10:15 AM
(mumble mumble grrrr ratzenfratzen). See if I ever point you to any interesting blogs again, smart guy.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 10:19 AM
I can't beleive that hasn't been photoshoped. I mean, think of the possibilities.
Posted by Steve | Link to this comment | 05-20-05 5:10 PM