Committing a plagiarism, taking anything one can lay hands on, even though it belongs to another, obviously leads to the second part of the dream, in which I am treated like the overcoat thief who for some time plied his trade in the lecture halls. I have written the word plagiarism – without definite intention – because it occurred to me, and now I see that it must belong to the latent dream-content and that it will serve as a bridge between the different parts of the manifest dream-content. The chain of associations – Pelagie – plagiarism – plagiostomi – fish-bladder – connects the old novel with the affair of Knodl and the overcoats, which obviously refer to an appliance appertaining to the technique of sex.
connects the old novel with the affair of Knodl and the overcoats, which obviously refer to an appliance appertaining to the technique of sex.
Interesting that you elide the missing steps here. "Knodl" (the "k" is pronounced, as in German or Old English) is a masking of "Gogol" ("K" being phonologically similar to "G"), which reveals the substitution of overcoats for noses (which is how we get to sex: for not only is a detachable nose unthinkable in this age without adverting to the detachable penis of song and story, but the nose is the most penile of all facial accoutrements, especially when one considers that ogged, the dreamer, has quite a prominent nose). Thus we travel backwards from noses to plagiarism and theft, where "overcoat theft" clearly is a stand-in for emasculation (the loss of the penis-nose), showing that between ogged and SB, ogged plays the receptive, "feminine" role. Further, we note that ogged & SB are wanted by the FBI for "plagiarizing" (=fucking) the same "passage" (="passage", wink).
Thus we see that ogged's dream was really an expression of his worries concerning an emergent police state that will persecute him for his activities at the Mineshaft.
I was just going to say that, while you may consider it one of my finest works, I much prefer my revolutionary theory of how everyone wants to have sex with his mother. Now there is a piece fit for the MoB.
Ogged, you're either suffering from a galloping strain of AMTF, or else needling me laconically with your meta-ironic jujitsu – but I can't tell which it is. If I understand the rules of this game correctly, that counts as a win for you. Congrats.
Also, how often you you dream of Unfogged commenters? If I started dreaming about some internet blurbotron named "Standpipe Bridgeplate", I would contemplate hiatus.
Tell me about it. If it helps, it just didn't quite seem like SB's tone to me, especially with the length, so I had to go look it up. I've never read more than excerpts of Freud, and that was in a Classics class where my loon of a professor wanted to show that the Medusa myth was all about men's fears of women's pubes.
I've read a fair bit of Freud, but not that bit of Freud. I just feel especially stupid that I didn't realize what was going on by comment 11, and then I just made it worse when I thought that I was getting the joke, but wasn't. Gads.
You're letting your shame fog over your eye for opportunity. The bough is leaning, laden, reaching for the ground. Why don't you take your hands out of your pockets and start picking?
Hold yer horses, Choppalong. The bough leaning over was laden with fruit, see? And the fruit that it bore was the name of my penance. The name of my "penance". Its name. Oh, never mind.
Regretulations! With my identity unveiled, I must repair now to my hinterland pensatorium and will myself to be forged anew. This might take a while. Take care, all.
WHat Wolfson said in 34. This is more than just a simple funny comment. It is way cooler. Also, I didn't recognize it on my own either. So I was right there with Ogged.
Actually, what's truly stunning to me is that Wolfson managed to compose 10 in the 20 minutes after 4 was posted (or the 7 minutes after 9). Participatory weirdness at its best.
What's it called when you make a teeny-weeny exception to your hiatus and post a comment just this once? Ah yes, "hiatus".
Since the question arose off-blog, I just wanted to reassure mes peeps that while I have temporarily suspended my comment-ops here, it's not because I was unmasked, so to speak. That was just a whimsical allusion to ogged's dream. The boring truth is that, at the moment, there's too much else I have to do.
While I'm here, though, let me second Chopper's props to Wolfson. His analysis of ogged as King Nikolai Gogol-Missile at the Mineshaft was deftly apt-strange.
From each other, I hope.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 10:14 AM
Plagiarized from each other? No, from something else.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 10:19 AM
Given Standpipe's agile and unclunky use of language, I can tell you which African-American professor at a southern university SB isn't.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 1:25 PM
Committing a plagiarism, taking anything one can lay hands on, even though it belongs to another, obviously leads to the second part of the dream, in which I am treated like the overcoat thief who for some time plied his trade in the lecture halls. I have written the word plagiarism – without definite intention – because it occurred to me, and now I see that it must belong to the latent dream-content and that it will serve as a bridge between the different parts of the manifest dream-content. The chain of associations – Pelagie – plagiarism – plagiostomi – fish-bladder – connects the old novel with the affair of Knodl and the overcoats, which obviously refer to an appliance appertaining to the technique of sex.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:26 PM
Ok, that one goes straight to the Museum of Bridgeplatica.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:29 PM
Do you really have "plagiostomi" available for associatin'?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:30 PM
Um, ogged…
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:30 PM
Tell me, I can take it.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:31 PM
Pelagianism wasn't in the associations?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:39 PM
connects the old novel with the affair of Knodl and the overcoats, which obviously refer to an appliance appertaining to the technique of sex.
Interesting that you elide the missing steps here. "Knodl" (the "k" is pronounced, as in German or Old English) is a masking of "Gogol" ("K" being phonologically similar to "G"), which reveals the substitution of overcoats for noses (which is how we get to sex: for not only is a detachable nose unthinkable in this age without adverting to the detachable penis of song and story, but the nose is the most penile of all facial accoutrements, especially when one considers that ogged, the dreamer, has quite a prominent nose). Thus we travel backwards from noses to plagiarism and theft, where "overcoat theft" clearly is a stand-in for emasculation (the loss of the penis-nose), showing that between ogged and SB, ogged plays the receptive, "feminine" role. Further, we note that ogged & SB are wanted by the FBI for "plagiarizing" (=fucking) the same "passage" (="passage", wink).
Thus we see that ogged's dream was really an expression of his worries concerning an emergent police state that will persecute him for his activities at the Mineshaft.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:46 PM
Tell me, I can take it.
I was just going to say that, while you may consider it one of my finest works, I much prefer my revolutionary theory of how everyone wants to have sex with his mother. Now there is a piece fit for the MoB.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 2:57 PM
my revolutionary theory of how everyone wants to have sex with his mother
I think that's been surpassed by Michael's theory of how everyone is having sex with his mother.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 3:01 PM
Ogged, you're either suffering from a galloping strain of AMTF, or else needling me laconically with your meta-ironic jujitsu – but I can't tell which it is. If I understand the rules of this game correctly, that counts as a win for you. Congrats.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 9:59 PM
Also, how often you you dream of Unfogged commenters? If I started dreaming about some internet blurbotron named "Standpipe Bridgeplate", I would contemplate hiatus.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-25-05 11:35 PM
SB, the dream was mainly me in a room with a Federal agent. He just showed me a picture of you, you handsome black devil.
"AMTF"? A fallacy of some sort? You know I can't follow you there.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:10 AM
AMTF.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:30 AM
Oh, that. No, I was needling you laconically.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:32 AM
I was needling you laconically.
I was just surprised that you were so quick to call for #4's inclusion in the MoB. Hence my confusion.
Someday, Unfogged will vanish completely into subtext.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:48 AM
4 is a fine comment. I'm still impressed by plagiostomi.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:53 AM
Ogged, perhaps you might consider selecting a portion of the text in 4 and dropping it into google.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:19 AM
SB, you bastard!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:21 AM
See 7. He tried to tell you.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:22 AM
Ignorance can really hurt sometimes, y'know?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:24 AM
Tell me about it. If it helps, it just didn't quite seem like SB's tone to me, especially with the length, so I had to go look it up. I've never read more than excerpts of Freud, and that was in a Classics class where my loon of a professor wanted to show that the Medusa myth was all about men's fears of women's pubes.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:27 AM
I've read a fair bit of Freud, but not that bit of Freud. I just feel especially stupid that I didn't realize what was going on by comment 11, and then I just made it worse when I thought that I was getting the joke, but wasn't. Gads.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:31 AM
This is what separates the Reverse Meta-Troll from just being taken in.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:43 AM
Wow, I'm glad everything is all texty and disclosed now. I was getting dizzy.
And, ogged, I apologize for the troll. Name my penance and it will be done.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 1:35 PM
No no, I'm too ashamed to blame anyone else.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 2:25 PM
C'mon ogged. If he's not already one, make SB become an African-American professor at a southern university. Or a handsome devil. Whichever.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 2:53 PM
Lord. That really should get its own wing in the MoB. Thank you.
Posted by bneton | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 3:02 PM
Name my penance
I'm too ashamed
You're letting your shame fog over your eye for opportunity. The bough is leaning, laden, reaching for the ground. Why don't you take your hands out of your pockets and start picking?
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 3:10 PM
Wait, who is leaning over, laden, reaching for the ground here? If I'm understanding this right, you just offered to serve as ogged's catamite.
The Tivo will be reset at last!
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 3:17 PM
That really should get its own wing in the MoB.
benton, did you read the whole thread?
If I'm understanding this right
Hold yer horses, Choppalong. The bough leaning over was laden with fruit, see? And the fruit that it bore was the name of my penance. The name of my "penance". Its name. Oh, never mind.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 4:05 PM
Maybe he meant the whole affair should get its own wing. That's what I thought, anyway.
Ogged, why aren't you plucking SB's luscious, over-ripe fruit, weighing down the branch with fecundity?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 4:47 PM
Regretulations! With my identity unveiled, I must repair now to my hinterland pensatorium and will myself to be forged anew. This might take a while. Take care, all.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:38 PM
*hiatus*
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 9:38 PM
WHat Wolfson said in 34. This is more than just a simple funny comment. It is way cooler. Also, I didn't recognize it on my own either. So I was right there with Ogged.
Posted by benton | Link to this comment | 05-26-05 10:11 PM
Actually, what's truly stunning to me is that Wolfson managed to compose 10 in the 20 minutes after 4 was posted (or the 7 minutes after 9). Participatory weirdness at its best.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-27-05 9:20 AM
What's it called when you make a teeny-weeny exception to your hiatus and post a comment just this once? Ah yes, "hiatus".
Since the question arose off-blog, I just wanted to reassure mes peeps that while I have temporarily suspended my comment-ops here, it's not because I was unmasked, so to speak. That was just a whimsical allusion to ogged's dream. The boring truth is that, at the moment, there's too much else I have to do.
While I'm here, though, let me second Chopper's props to Wolfson. His analysis of ogged as King Nikolai Gogol-Missile at the Mineshaft was deftly apt-strange.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-29-05 2:15 PM