I thought it was just the intro to the Ike and Tina version that sucked. I haven't heard it in a while. Tina Turner does have a good version of "Whole lot of love".
I've decided that the Powerline is performance art designed (like their Dartmouth Review) to piss off liberals for the simple joy of watching them be pissed off. The danger with that kind of performance art, of course, is that the performer forgets that he's performing, and is swallowed by the persona. When they changed back to their "real" names, this process was complete.
Sometimes, white-collar white guys get it in their heads that they're rebels against the system, and that the real radicalism lies in supporting capitalism (Thatcher used this rhetoric in Britain, iirc) and, nowadays, in being a Christian. There were a number of people writing to Eric Alterman last year complaining about Springsteen supporting Kerry. What, exactly, did they expect of a guy who thinks of himself as Woody Guthrie's heir? (That was a rhetorical question.)
It is funny that the great poets of fading Caucasian virility – John Fogerty, Bruce Springstein, Jon Bon Jovi, etc. – are almost all invariably leftist in their politics. Why don't the Hindrockets of the world just suck it up and become Toby Keith fans? Is it that hard?
They say that the failure of his Tina Turner production drove Phil Spector over the edge. Tragic. His picture in the recent Rolling Stone was great. He made Kacynski look mellow.
It is funny that the great poets of fading Caucasian virility – John Fogerty, Bruce Springstein, Jon Bon Jovi, etc. – are almost all invariably leftist in their politics. Why don't the Hindrockets of the world just suck it up and become Toby Keith fans? Is it that hard?
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Mellencamp, too.
Wha --?
Springsteen in the company of Mellencamp and Jon Bon Jovi?
"Foghat are not supporters of George Bush. We don't endorse either candidate and we keep our personal beliefs to ourselves. However, we do endorse Bonnie Raitt and Bruce Springsteen for President and Jackson Browne and Eddie Vedder for Vice President."
I'm -- not very -- appalled that you had to dig up the Turner version to know what you thought of it.
Kids!
The Wall of Sound and the history of rock and roll means nothing to them. I mean, it's a little late to suddenly discover an opinion of Phil Spector, or Tina.
"Hey, Joe" was most interesting on the 45 by Patti Smith. See, there were these little vinyl discs....
I thought it was just the intro to the Ike and Tina version that sucked. I haven't heard it in a while. Tina Turner does have a good version of "Whole lot of love".
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 10:58 AM
Hey, some folks are born made to wave the flag.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 11:08 AM
Oh man, if CCR is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 11:16 AM
I've decided that the Powerline is performance art designed (like their Dartmouth Review) to piss off liberals for the simple joy of watching them be pissed off. The danger with that kind of performance art, of course, is that the performer forgets that he's performing, and is swallowed by the persona. When they changed back to their "real" names, this process was complete.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 11:16 AM
I'm amused by the Powerline reader that was disappointed by John Fogerty's support for John Kerry. What exactly was he expecting?
Posted by Ramar | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 11:30 AM
What exactly was he expecting?
Sometimes, white-collar white guys get it in their heads that they're rebels against the system, and that the real radicalism lies in supporting capitalism (Thatcher used this rhetoric in Britain, iirc) and, nowadays, in being a Christian. There were a number of people writing to Eric Alterman last year complaining about Springsteen supporting Kerry. What, exactly, did they expect of a guy who thinks of himself as Woody Guthrie's heir? (That was a rhetorical question.)
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 11:48 AM
But Springsteen did, like, that totally patriotic song. What was it called? "Born in the U.S.A."?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 1:49 PM
Actually, Matt, if you listen closely to the lyrics to that song, you'll find that it's about how the eskimos have ten million words for "snow."
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 1:55 PM
It is funny that the great poets of fading Caucasian virility – John Fogerty, Bruce Springstein, Jon Bon Jovi, etc. – are almost all invariably leftist in their politics. Why don't the Hindrockets of the world just suck it up and become Toby Keith fans? Is it that hard?
Posted by pjs | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:12 PM
Mellencamp, too.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:15 PM
Actually, Matt, if you listen closely to the lyrics to that song, you'll find that it's about how the eskimos have ten million words for "snow."
Oddly enough, so do record producers.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:28 PM
Hey, that's funny.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:45 PM
Ogged, do you have a system for when to say that, or is it just that only about one out of every ten thousand comments is funny?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:48 PM
I'm more inclined to like comments than I am to like songs. Does that help?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:51 PM
He only says it when the humor is subtle enough that, without his pointing it out, the rest of us might miss it.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 2:52 PM
yes, because the subtle humor is hard to identify ...at the mineshaft.
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 3:12 PM
Especially when it's subtle, yet intrusive.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 3:26 PM
And as we all know subtelty requires props in a frathaus.
I've gone full circle on Springsteen, by the way. love-hate-friendship. Paul Simon was, and is, love-love-scepticism-wondering where we went wrong.
Words can't describe the Van Morrison thing though, that is weird relationship I have with that man's music.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 3:28 PM
They say that the failure of his Tina Turner production drove Phil Spector over the edge. Tragic. His picture in the recent Rolling Stone was great. He made Kacynski look mellow.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 3:33 PM
No matter how bad "Proud Mary" is, it can't be HALF as bad as "Hey Joe" before Jimi got his hands on it.
Posted by Matt Davis | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 5:03 PM
Hey, wtf Davis? The Leaves are happening!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 5:07 PM
Who are this Jimi Hendrix and Leaves? Wasn't that a Deep Purple song?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 5:10 PM
FL in 8 was spot on. I was already in my mind "it really is an anti war song with strong tinges of poulism...."
Really, why Toby Keith? You want a real Republican for Hindrocket, I say Brtiney Spears i s the way to go. I hear Foghat are Republicans.
And now I have Down on The Corner in my head. "You don't need a penny just to hang around..." Thanks....
Posted by benton | Link to this comment | 06-27-05 7:01 PM
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It is funny that the great poets of fading Caucasian virility – John Fogerty, Bruce Springstein, Jon Bon Jovi, etc. – are almost all invariably leftist in their politics. Why don't the Hindrockets of the world just suck it up and become Toby Keith fans? Is it that hard?
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Mellencamp, too.
Wha --?
Springsteen in the company of Mellencamp and Jon Bon Jovi?
I'd like to at least offer a side-by-side.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-28-05 8:40 AM
Also -- Foghat not Republicans.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-28-05 8:42 AM
It says they keep their personal beliefs to themselves—they might be republicans.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-28-05 8:49 AM
Is not that the case that Republicans do not keep their personal beliefs to themselves, but rather assert and glory in their Republicanism?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-28-05 8:56 AM
"Foghat are not supporters of George Bush. We don't endorse either candidate and we keep our personal beliefs to ourselves. However, we do endorse Bonnie Raitt and Bruce Springsteen for President and Jackson Browne and Eddie Vedder for Vice President."
Something tells me they ain't Republicans.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-28-05 9:32 AM
I'm -- not very -- appalled that you had to dig up the Turner version to know what you thought of it.
Kids!
The Wall of Sound and the history of rock and roll means nothing to them. I mean, it's a little late to suddenly discover an opinion of Phil Spector, or Tina.
"Hey, Joe" was most interesting on the 45 by Patti Smith. See, there were these little vinyl discs....
Posted by Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 06-29-05 3:08 PM