This raises the question of what Eminem's records will be like after he gets all healthy and chilled out. Standards duets with Rod Stewart? Eminem reads Kahlil Gibran? Eminem and Elmo rap for the kids?
LAKERS HEAD COACH GOES L.A., SPORTING A STYLISH NEW WARDROBE AND HAIR CUT INSPIRED BY FENG SHUI
BYLINE: Barbara D/e Wit/t Fashion Editor
BODY:
Prodded by his girlfriend, Lakers head coach Phil Jackson has adopted a new, oh so So Cal look that's inspired by Feng Shui and given form by a hair stylist and clothes designer.
Jackson has sidelined the bushy beard for a trim mustache and super-hip ''soul patch.'' (You know, that just-short-of-a-goatee facial hair style that's popular with the Silver Lake music and art crowd). He has a shorter, ''water cut'' with more pepper than salt in his hair while sporting a dapper custom-made wardrobe.
The idea for the makeover was planted in September when Jackson spent a week at the Golde/n Doo/r spa in Escondido with his girlfriend, Jeanie Buss, the 39-year-old daughter of Lakers owner Jerry Buss.
''Phil already has a good sense of style,'' Jeanie Buss said. ''But he's shy and needed a little help.''
Jackson says nobody was looking at his haircut when he coached the Chicago Bulls to six NBA championships. But now he's a champion in L.A.
''I'm still getting used to it,'' said the 55-year-old coach. ''I like the less-care, less-hair aspect to it . . . and I'm amazed at what I look like.''
Jeanie Buss agrees.
''I think he's sexy anyway he looks, but this new look is great!''
Whether the Jackson makeover will help the Lakers repeat as NBA champions remains to be seen, but the fashion world is impressed with his hipness.
''It's about time he started pulling his look together,'' said Leo/n Hal/l, co-host of E! television's ''Fashio/n Emergenc/y.''
''After all, he represents a major team and is seen by millions of people on TV and mingles with stars, so he should look the part . . . especially since he's following in the footsteps of Pat Riley, one of the most dapper dressers in current sports.''
Defending himself, Jackson quipped, ''I'd like to follow in Pat's footsteps and win as many NBA championships as he did, but our looks are entirely different. Pat, with his Armani suits, is Mr. Slick . . . and I'm Mr. Comfort.''
Not surprisingly, the basketball coach who's known for sharing Zen philosophy with his players didn't approach the makeover lightly. It was carefully executed according to Feng Shui guidelines, said Ventura-based stylist Bill/y Yamaguch/i, who was recommended by Jeanie Buss.
''When it comes to Feng Shui, the ancient Asian art of placement, we look at the whole house, so to speak, and try to determine the client's chi (energy) and then choose hair styles, glasses and clothing that will suit him best,'' Yamaguch/i said.
''Since Jackson has a water element in his personality we gave him a 'water cut' to enhance his sophisticated, but risk-taking energy and then suggested a new wardrobe based on winter shades, such as black and gray which enhance his hair coloring.''
A water cut?
''It's a short, brushed-forward style that has a gladiator appeal and is a youthful look for him. And with his shortened sideburns, his cheekbones are more emphasized,'' Yamaguch/i explained.
Jackson didn't have to look far for his new wardrobe, selecting Costa Mesa-based Davi/d Ricke/y. The design studio also makes suits for many of the players who helped the Lakers win this summer's championship, including league MVP Shaquille O'Neal.
According to designer David Heil (whose partner is Ricke/y Lamiti/e), ''The wardrobe we've designed for Jackson will include single-breasted, three-and-four-button suits in black, gray and taupe that he'll wear with white or blue shirts and solid or neat ties. We're not giving him the Regis look, but a special look created just for him, right down to his custom- made, cap-toe lace-up shoes.''
So what's next?
Yamaguch/i said look for Jackson to be wearing thicker black-framed glasses soon. The coach isn't making any promises.
''I'm going with it one step at a time,'' Jackson said. ''But I'll probably grow a beard during the playoffs.''
Actually, that comment was a shot at Ogged, for expecting us to know what the hell he was talking about (and incidentally for pot-kettling on the subject of people living in blue places).
Also, the author of that article seems to use "super-hip" to mean "a laughingstock, a hissing and a byword." I wonder why.
That's true, but I suspect that on the particular point of contention it's more California vs. everywhere else than blue vs. red. I first heard that one from you, and I've spent most of my life in Pittsburgh (blue, but not exactly coastal), as well as living in the reddest of all states.
It's interesting to contrast this stereotype, then, with stereotypes such as "Jews are bloodsucking moneylenders who control the world," which I'm pretty sure is not restricted to areas with a sizable Jewish population.
I'm pretty sure I wasn't under the impression that McGrady was still playing, but I would not go so far to claim that I knew anything about him other than that he's apparently a pretty good basketball player.
Ogged, are you annoyed that these people a) change b) become less self-reliant c) become less masculine? You put it out there as if it were self-evident, but I am more obtuse. Or does it have something to do with a need to exercise control over everything, instead of just going with the "flow" (ontic throwness, if you will).
> Haircut and Feng Shui Consultation with Traditional Footbath
>Feng Shui consultation from a Benu hairstylist-trained by Billy Yamaguchi, the celebrity author of Feng Shui Beauty. Billy has had a host of celebrity clients including: Jennifer Anniston, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Julia Roberts, Mel Gibson, Drew Barrymore, Brooke Shields, Kate Moss, Ashley Judd, Gwyneth Paltrow, Phil Jackson, and others. Start your experience with a traditional Footbath, then receive our customized Feng Shui Consultation, and finish off your experience with a Shampoo and Scalp Massage, Haircut, and Style.
A fine question, Michael, so you'll understand that you're banned forever. I'm disturbed by how readily people change, and I'm disturbed that they change to adopt a lifestyle that in its emphasis on youthful appearance and disdain for grit, grime, rough, and tumble, seems to signal a fear and retreat from the world as it is.
I'm horrible at finding links, so this will have to be less arch than I want.
1. "emphasis on youthful appearance": you wear the same jersey every day to work. And it's a hipster jersey.
2. "disdain for grit, grime, rough, and tumble": where o' where is the post in which you talk about (a) how much you like small luxuries, and (b) can't stand people who won't spend to pamper themselves?
3. "signal a fear and retreat from the world": what's the TiVO at now?
The fact that variations on all three could be applied to me in no way diminishes the force of my point. (ATM).
I could just say "self-loathing" and win, but what does my desire to avoid going to the laundry room have to do with an emphasis on youthful appearance? Nothing, that's what.
Yes, I don't like grit and grime either, but I don't take extraordinary steps to keep them out of my life, and I think it's fine for people to pamper themselves, but surely there's such a thing as "a bit much."
I think it's weird that you know, to the day, how long it's been since you last had sex. Maybe if the number of days were smaller—say, less than one hundred—it wouldn't seem that way to me. But at 586? You'll never achieve no-mind.
Five-hundred eighty-six. You have to spell it out to fully appreciate it. The scores from a seven-games series between SA and Detroit wouldn't add up so high.
Oh, there were 8 minutes between ogged being asked and his answering. So I am assuming he worked it out. Does that put the "knowledge" of the 586 in perspective?
I know a very attractive woman who hasn't had sex since 1999. I also know another woman--who is, not coincidentally, the most beautiful woman I know--who is my age and yet didn't have a sexual relationship until this past year.
I don't think there's an inverse relationship in general, but I think in her case it's the being loved for herself alone, not for her yellow hair problem.
As for 1999 woman, she is in love with one of the most talented and famous men in the world, who is her friend, and calls her all the time. She basically lives for his calls. And compares everyone she dates to him, unfavorably.
re 68: hey, i know someone like that, too. in fact, i'm not quite sure that she's ever had sex. which is a pity, really. but this guy she's in love with is super hot.
Yes, yellow hair is now engaged. 1999's still available, though. Talented & famous man is happily married, doesn't fuck with her head, she's in love with him anyway.
What's the theoretical maximum number of people who can be members of the class "most talented and famous people in the world." Talent may not be finite, but surely the total amount of fame is finite for any given population.
79: Stop it! Not in a forum where you might be asked another question--it's wise to decline to answer all questions, no matter what the answer is, so future refusals to answer can't be taken to give information.
it was the law & order spoof. dave is in court and singing various songs (ditties, if you will) about how he is pleading the fifth to various questions posed to him by the grand jury. at one point, he holds up a piece of paper that says "F i F" - if i were a more impulsive type, i might consider a tattoo.
and katie holmes is considering scientology, for the love of all that is holy. it's all a vicious plot.
Am I to infer that the name which ogged has changed to "ya ya moo" used to be that of someone whose name is spelled with the same vowels less one, differently arranged, and that ogged straight up pulled it out of the air? Damn, I wish I had been here before the change.
I think this is a time where the better part of valor is not to talk any more about this, but rather that all we silently ponder the wonder which took place before our eyes.
Just read the comment above, and feel I should reply. She's really a very sensible person. She used to have a strong romantic streak which has waned as she's gotten older--and as relationships seem to have become more about mundane things than great passion. She's no longer sure she can sustain great passion. The only person who gives her even a glimmer of that feeling is Mr. Moo.
Considering that the guys she's gone out with just make her feel sort of blah, she'd rather hang out with her friends, if the point is conversation/being understood/connecting to people.
You gotta spend all that money on something.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:28 PM
Yeah, fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches, like a real American.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:30 PM
This raises the question of what Eminem's records will be like after he gets all healthy and chilled out. Standards duets with Rod Stewart? Eminem reads Kahlil Gibran? Eminem and Elmo rap for the kids?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:36 PM
Have yourself an Eminemmy Christmas?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:37 PM
What is a "water haircut" ?
Posted by joe o | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:37 PM
Eminem and Elmo rap for the kids?
50 Cent: I Wuv Unicorns and Ponies
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:39 PM
That question just shows what a blue, Manhattan cocoon you live in, Joe.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:39 PM
Eminem and Elmo rap for the kids?
50 Cent: I Wuv Unicorns and Ponies
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:42 PM
I live in San Francisco, which is admittedly even bluer coccon-wise.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:42 PM
Ah, fuck.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:42 PM
Lexi/sNexi/s can sue my ass:
Copyright 2000 Tower Media, Inc.
The Daily News of Los Angeles
November 14, 2000, Tuesday,
SECTION: NEWS,
LENGTH: 643 words
HEADLINE: PHIL JACKSON'S LOOK NOW & ZEN;
LAKERS HEAD COACH GOES L.A., SPORTING A STYLISH NEW WARDROBE AND HAIR CUT INSPIRED BY FENG SHUI
BYLINE: Barbara D/e Wit/t Fashion Editor
BODY:
Prodded by his girlfriend, Lakers head coach Phil Jackson has adopted a new, oh so So Cal look that's inspired by Feng Shui and given form by a hair stylist and clothes designer.
Jackson has sidelined the bushy beard for a trim mustache and super-hip ''soul patch.'' (You know, that just-short-of-a-goatee facial hair style that's popular with the Silver Lake music and art crowd). He has a shorter, ''water cut'' with more pepper than salt in his hair while sporting a dapper custom-made wardrobe.
The idea for the makeover was planted in September when Jackson spent a week at the Golde/n Doo/r spa in Escondido with his girlfriend, Jeanie Buss, the 39-year-old daughter of Lakers owner Jerry Buss.
''Phil already has a good sense of style,'' Jeanie Buss said. ''But he's shy and needed a little help.''
Jackson says nobody was looking at his haircut when he coached the Chicago Bulls to six NBA championships. But now he's a champion in L.A.
''I'm still getting used to it,'' said the 55-year-old coach. ''I like the less-care, less-hair aspect to it . . . and I'm amazed at what I look like.''
Jeanie Buss agrees.
''I think he's sexy anyway he looks, but this new look is great!''
Whether the Jackson makeover will help the Lakers repeat as NBA champions remains to be seen, but the fashion world is impressed with his hipness.
''It's about time he started pulling his look together,'' said Leo/n Hal/l, co-host of E! television's ''Fashio/n Emergenc/y.''
''After all, he represents a major team and is seen by millions of people on TV and mingles with stars, so he should look the part . . . especially since he's following in the footsteps of Pat Riley, one of the most dapper dressers in current sports.''
Defending himself, Jackson quipped, ''I'd like to follow in Pat's footsteps and win as many NBA championships as he did, but our looks are entirely different. Pat, with his Armani suits, is Mr. Slick . . . and I'm Mr. Comfort.''
Not surprisingly, the basketball coach who's known for sharing Zen philosophy with his players didn't approach the makeover lightly. It was carefully executed according to Feng Shui guidelines, said Ventura-based stylist Bill/y Yamaguch/i, who was recommended by Jeanie Buss.
''When it comes to Feng Shui, the ancient Asian art of placement, we look at the whole house, so to speak, and try to determine the client's chi (energy) and then choose hair styles, glasses and clothing that will suit him best,'' Yamaguch/i said.
''Since Jackson has a water element in his personality we gave him a 'water cut' to enhance his sophisticated, but risk-taking energy and then suggested a new wardrobe based on winter shades, such as black and gray which enhance his hair coloring.''
A water cut?
''It's a short, brushed-forward style that has a gladiator appeal and is a youthful look for him. And with his shortened sideburns, his cheekbones are more emphasized,'' Yamaguch/i explained.
Jackson didn't have to look far for his new wardrobe, selecting Costa Mesa-based Davi/d Ricke/y. The design studio also makes suits for many of the players who helped the Lakers win this summer's championship, including league MVP Shaquille O'Neal.
According to designer David Heil (whose partner is Ricke/y Lamiti/e), ''The wardrobe we've designed for Jackson will include single-breasted, three-and-four-button suits in black, gray and taupe that he'll wear with white or blue shirts and solid or neat ties. We're not giving him the Regis look, but a special look created just for him, right down to his custom- made, cap-toe lace-up shoes.''
So what's next?
Yamaguch/i said look for Jackson to be wearing thicker black-framed glasses soon. The coach isn't making any promises.
''I'm going with it one step at a time,'' Jackson said. ''But I'll probably grow a beard during the playoffs.''
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:43 PM
Actually, I'm going to go back and de-googlify that comment.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:45 PM
Actually, that comment was a shot at Ogged, for expecting us to know what the hell he was talking about (and incidentally for pot-kettling on the subject of people living in blue places).
Also, the author of that article seems to use "super-hip" to mean "a laughingstock, a hissing and a byword." I wonder why.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:47 PM
12: ?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:47 PM
14: done.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:48 PM
I didn't say anything about blue.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:49 PM
The idea being that anyone who is searching for one of those phrases won't find out that you've ripped the copyright?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:50 PM
Oh, yes I did. But I seem to have a somewhat broader experience of the world than Mr. Yglesias.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:50 PM
Precisely.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:50 PM
That's true, but I suspect that on the particular point of contention it's more California vs. everywhere else than blue vs. red. I first heard that one from you, and I've spent most of my life in Pittsburgh (blue, but not exactly coastal), as well as living in the reddest of all states.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:52 PM
20 to 18.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:52 PM
And McGrady hits the three! 21 to 20.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:52 PM
Well, it's anywhere with a sizable Asian population, so definitely California, also parts of Chicago, and parts of Boston.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 1:56 PM
It's interesting to contrast this stereotype, then, with stereotypes such as "Jews are bloodsucking moneylenders who control the world," which I'm pretty sure is not restricted to areas with a sizable Jewish population.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:01 PM
Give it time. I'm doing my best to make sure everyone knows about Asian drivers. The apostropher knew, so wherever he lives, too.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:03 PM
Too bad McGrady didn't make that 3 more often. Can anyone imagine anything more boring than the Spurs versus the Pistons?
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:04 PM
It's not just boring; it's physically painful. Of course, this is precisely the sort of series ogged was hoping for. (Because he hates America.)
Posted by SomeCallMeTimbot | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:08 PM
I was just about to say that I like this matchup. Fucking America.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:10 PM
I'm pretty sure I wasn't under the impression that McGrady was still playing, but I would not go so far to claim that I knew anything about him other than that he's apparently a pretty good basketball player.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:10 PM
Admit the worst part of it, ogged: you want the Spurs to win.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:13 PM
Ogged, are you annoyed that these people a) change b) become less self-reliant c) become less masculine? You put it out there as if it were self-evident, but I am more obtuse. Or does it have something to do with a need to exercise control over everything, instead of just going with the "flow" (ontic throwness, if you will).
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:14 PM
Hook 'em horns! Or something!
Actually, I'm having a tough time, because I like both teams.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:15 PM
Good Lord
> Haircut and Feng Shui Consultation with Traditional Footbath
>Feng Shui consultation from a Benu hairstylist-trained by Billy Yamaguchi, the celebrity author of Feng Shui Beauty. Billy has had a host of celebrity clients including: Jennifer Anniston, Lisa Kudrow, Courtney Cox, Julia Roberts, Mel Gibson, Drew Barrymore, Brooke Shields, Kate Moss, Ashley Judd, Gwyneth Paltrow, Phil Jackson, and others. Start your experience with a traditional Footbath, then receive our customized Feng Shui Consultation, and finish off your experience with a Shampoo and Scalp Massage, Haircut, and Style.
Posted by joe o | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:20 PM
A fine question, Michael, so you'll understand that you're banned forever. I'm disturbed by how readily people change, and I'm disturbed that they change to adopt a lifestyle that in its emphasis on youthful appearance and disdain for grit, grime, rough, and tumble, seems to signal a fear and retreat from the world as it is.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:21 PM
Mel Gibson!
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:24 PM
You've got to be kidding, ogged. I'm going to assume that word doing all the work there is "change."
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:25 PM
What's your problem now, Bernie?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:25 PM
I'm horrible at finding links, so this will have to be less arch than I want.
1. "emphasis on youthful appearance": you wear the same jersey every day to work. And it's a hipster jersey.
2. "disdain for grit, grime, rough, and tumble": where o' where is the post in which you talk about (a) how much you like small luxuries, and (b) can't stand people who won't spend to pamper themselves?
3. "signal a fear and retreat from the world": what's the TiVO at now?
The fact that variations on all three could be applied to me in no way diminishes the force of my point. (ATM).
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:34 PM
I could just say "self-loathing" and win, but what does my desire to avoid going to the laundry room have to do with an emphasis on youthful appearance? Nothing, that's what.
Yes, I don't like grit and grime either, but I don't take extraordinary steps to keep them out of my life, and I think it's fine for people to pamper themselves, but surely there's such a thing as "a bit much."
586. Why do you ask?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:42 PM
SCMT, having done a link-fest at you, I will do one for you: one two (bonus exegesis and... ah, can't pick just one for three.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:43 PM
Punctuation train-wreck! I think adding a ')' after exegesis will take care of it.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:44 PM
I think it's weird that you know, to the day, how long it's been since you last had sex. Maybe if the number of days were smaller—say, less than one hundred—it wouldn't seem that way to me. But at 586? You'll never achieve no-mind.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:47 PM
Five-hundred eighty-six. You have to spell it out to fully appreciate it. The scores from a seven-games series between SA and Detroit wouldn't add up so high.
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:51 PM
Yamaguch/i said look for Jackson to be wearing thicker black-framed glasses soon.
The Harry Potter look...
Posted by DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:51 PM
Have I never mentioned my friend, the hottie, who went 7 years without sex (most of her twenties)? On that scale, I ought not even be looking yet.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:57 PM
Was there a backstory? An overarching cause? Or is it just one of those things where a lot of smaller causes add up?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:59 PM
Does that really comfort you, O?
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:59 PM
Think of it this way—it hasn't even been eighty-four weeks, or two years. Two years isn't so long.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 2:59 PM
Unless you're not getting any.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:00 PM
Was there a backstory?
No. Just didn't meet any guys she wanted to sleep with. (She now has a boyfriend.)
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:00 PM
Jesus, I bet she nearly killed that guy.
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:01 PM
You know, I should have asked about that.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:02 PM
Asked him, right?
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:04 PM
I don't know him. I should have asked her (still can, I suppose).
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:05 PM
A Female recruit to a combatant unit, upon being asked by weapons training instructor if she thought she could kill a a man:
"How long do I have?"
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:08 PM
Oh, there were 8 minutes between ogged being asked and his answering. So I am assuming he worked it out. Does that put the "knowledge" of the 586 in perspective?
Doesnt seem so off-the-mark to me.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:11 PM
Weiner, thanks for #40. Ogged, I'm not sure if "self-loathing" in #39 is supposed to refer to me or you. (Seriously.)
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 3:30 PM
I know a very attractive woman who hasn't had sex since 1999. I also know another woman--who is, not coincidentally, the most beautiful woman I know--who is my age and yet didn't have a sexual relationship until this past year.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:33 PM
who is, not coincidentally, the most beautiful woman I know
Which way is the direction of causation?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:37 PM
i hope that the amount of booty one gets is not inversely proportional to the degree of hotness one possesses.
that would be wrong.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:37 PM
You suggest sex may be disfiguring?
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:38 PM
Are these women crazy? If not, why haven't you given them my email address?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:39 PM
Why silvana, are you having a lot of sex or are you very beautiful?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:39 PM
61 to 59
I don't think there's an inverse relationship in general, but I think in her case it's the being loved for herself alone, not for her yellow hair problem.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:39 PM
Is she lovable?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:40 PM
Or purity may give you that special glow...
ah, hell, that is what I was suggesting. That and 60 seem to be the only choices.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:40 PM
ogged, i was hoping both.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:41 PM
As for 1999 woman, she is in love with one of the most talented and famous men in the world, who is her friend, and calls her all the time. She basically lives for his calls. And compares everyone she dates to him, unfavorably.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:41 PM
65 - Yes, she is extremely lovable and sweet.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:42 PM
64: Then you definitely need to introduce her to some e-guys! We can't even see her yellow hair.
(It is noted that she has been, and may still be, in a relationship. She should be happy.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:42 PM
re 68: hey, i know someone like that, too. in fact, i'm not quite sure that she's ever had sex. which is a pity, really. but this guy she's in love with is super hot.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:43 PM
1999=crazy.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:43 PM
68: Has anyone told talented and famous guy to stop fucking with her head? Or am I misinterpreting?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:43 PM
It's gotta be Ya-Ya Moo. Bastard. [edited by ogged]
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:44 PM
Yes, yellow hair is now engaged. 1999's still available, though. Talented & famous man is happily married, doesn't fuck with her head, she's in love with him anyway.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:45 PM
What's the theoretical maximum number of people who can be members of the class "most talented and famous people in the world." Talent may not be finite, but surely the total amount of fame is finite for any given population.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:46 PM
You can be locally famous, versus everyone in the world knowing your name. And on 74 - I can't even answer.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:47 PM
surely the total amount of fame is finite
Doesn't "famous" just mean "a person known by many?" In principle, can't everybody be famous at the same time?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:48 PM
silence is an affirmation, ac.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:49 PM
w/d--amount doesn't matter, because it's a superlative. Even if fame were unlimited, there could be only one most famous person, barring tied.
But 'one of the most' literally means 'one of the n most' for some n, and I don't know that there are any hard and fast rules for what n is.
Of course we know that it's really Tom Cruise.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:50 PM
It is Ya-Ya Moo. This is now the I Hate Ya-Ya Moo blog. Ya-Ya Moo sells crack to kids. [edited by ogged]
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:50 PM
My thought was that fame is inherently comparative, and that you need some non-famous people to check against to see if any given person is famous.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:50 PM
I'd actually appreciat it, Ogged, if you could make his name ungooglable--just changed slightly. If you would.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:52 PM
'barring ties'
79: Stop it! Not in a forum where you might be asked another question--it's wise to decline to answer all questions, no matter what the answer is, so future refusals to answer can't be taken to give information.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:52 PM
You mean, the musician? Seriously?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:52 PM
*appreciate
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:52 PM
F i F
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:53 PM
Maybe you should just delete from 74 on.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:53 PM
Yes, please.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:54 PM
Done.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:55 PM
No, actually, Ya Ya Moo is fine.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:55 PM
I'm all flustered.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:56 PM
What's "F i F"?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:57 PM
shit, i feel mildly like an ass now.
is it possible to ban oneself?
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:57 PM
it's what ac pled.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:57 PM
Oh. Did you make that up, or is it a thing?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:58 PM
it's a thing. don't you ever watch chappelle's show?
i could find a link to the clip, but i am lazy. it's quite funny.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:59 PM
Nevermind.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 4:59 PM
I do watch it, but don't remember that. Which skit?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:00 PM
You know, Tom Cruise wasn't a bad guess. K. Holmes purports to be a virgin. (That, anyway, is the explanation she gave me for not staying over).
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:00 PM
it was the law & order spoof. dave is in court and singing various songs (ditties, if you will) about how he is pleading the fifth to various questions posed to him by the grand jury. at one point, he holds up a piece of paper that says "F i F" - if i were a more impulsive type, i might consider a tattoo.
and katie holmes is considering scientology, for the love of all that is holy. it's all a vicious plot.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:03 PM
Damn, I haven't seen that skit.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:03 PM
well, now it's ruined.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:04 PM
Silv--that's been explained here.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:05 PM
Am I to infer that the name which ogged has changed to "ya ya moo" used to be that of someone whose name is spelled with the same vowels less one, differently arranged, and that ogged straight up pulled it out of the air? Damn, I wish I had been here before the change.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:11 PM
I think this is a time where the better part of valor is not to talk any more about this, but rather that all we silently ponder the wonder which took place before our eyes.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 5:15 PM
Is anyone else humming "Bailamos"?
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 9:24 PM
yes, actually, i am.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 06-13-05 10:06 PM
You know, obviously Mr. Moo is talented and famous. Not my cup of tea, no, but very talented yes. And indubitably famous.
But seriously, thinking he's so hottt that you're not attracted to anyone else for six plus years? Has she considered therapy?
Posted by Mitch Mills | Link to this comment | 06-17-05 11:11 PM
Just read the comment above, and feel I should reply. She's really a very sensible person. She used to have a strong romantic streak which has waned as she's gotten older--and as relationships seem to have become more about mundane things than great passion. She's no longer sure she can sustain great passion. The only person who gives her even a glimmer of that feeling is Mr. Moo.
Considering that the guys she's gone out with just make her feel sort of blah, she'd rather hang out with her friends, if the point is conversation/being understood/connecting to people.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 07-19-05 12:24 PM