When did Cage go from doing comedies to more angsty movies. For me I think Snake Eyes followed by 8mm marked Cage consciously trying to play a different type of role.
I just can't see him as a leather-clad outlaw motorcycle racer. Even if Ghost Rider was a pretty clean cut motorcyle racer back in the early 80s.
[I tried to google for a picture of Ghost Rider back in the days when he was hanging out with Team America but this doesn't show much]
I thought the accepted theory is that Nicholas Cage is still a talented actor who simply has unimaginably poor taste in roles most of the time. Kriston, you thought he detracted from Adaptation? That's shocking.
Totally agreed on Fiorentino and Last Seduction (except the part about it being better than a movie I have never seen). I was going to say it also features Bill Pullman's best ever performance, but I could see arguments for Zero Effect. Or nostalgia for Spaceballs.
I saw Snake Eyes in theatres and thought it was so bad that I have purposefully avoided seeing it again. And I like a lot of De Palma's work.
You've intimated that you saw Batman...at the end, did there seem to be any, hrm, "loose threads" to you? I'm trying to ask without giving away spoilers. Basically, either I missed it or the gas trouble wasn't resolved. In brief looks around the web, I haven't any other people complaining about it, so maybe it's me. On the other hand, I went with 2 other people, and none of us saw the issue resolved. I need confirmation.
Michael- I saw it last night, I hadn't thought about that. Now that I do, you're pretty clearly correct. Batman only managed to reduce the scale of the problem.
OMG this ju5t occured to me!!1! Batman is so strong because he is a NINJA, right? And NINJAS have POWER that is REAL and ULTIMATE! So when BATMAN fights RA'S AL GHUL neither can win bec4use they're both NINJAS and they both have ULTIMATE POWER mean1ng they are NECESSARILY EQUAL. But, think if you have 500 NINJAS fighting 1 NINJA. You would th1nk that the 500 NINJAS would win, but they wouldn't (you stupid dumbass!)! 500 x ULTIMATE is still ULTIMATE! Isn't that AWESOME!
Basically, either I missed it or the gas trouble wasn't resolved. In brief looks around the web, I haven't any other people complaining about it, so maybe it's me.
Batman only managed to reduce the scale of the problem.
Once it's contained, they can go back and take care of the people in the affected area, no? Though there does seem to be a time issue that doesn't get addressed.
Nick Cage was at the same show in Vegas as i was a couple of years back. It turns out that either he bought his house from Tom Jones or vice versa, (it was a Tom Jones show in Vegas, its not unusual for those of us who go to these things with a certain sense of irony to be pretty drunk when they start). This scored him major points in my book.
Wild at Heart, Red Rock West, Moonstruck and Raising Arizona all rate. Saw that codetalker thing while in hotel not too long ago. Ugh. Not as bad as harrison Ford, who has now reduced acting to a continuous pained expression, mostly because Cage is more mobile in his now uniformly bad acting. Con Air was on cable last night. And the cast was amazing, although there was a lot of phoning it in going on.
And there are good tamales in Reno, not far from the Hilton.
Indeed, I cannot deny that my mother has a turgid son, videlicet, my own self, both physiologically, as any member of the fairer sex to have encountered my intumescent member can vouch, and figuratively too, as I challenge even Góngora in the use of ornate ποικιλια.
He was good in "valley girl".
Posted by joe o | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:30 AM
Don't taunt me.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:33 AM
Why do you hate Raising Arizona?
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:34 AM
Oh God. That's worse than Cage as Superman.
It pains me to say that I like Adaptation despite Cage.
Posted by Kriston | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:35 AM
He used to be immensely appealing. Not so much lately -- he hasn't matured well -- but I could sit and watch a young Nicholas Cage all day.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:36 AM
Cage has had some horrendous plastic surgery, from the looks of things. But I didn't understand his appeal even in the old days.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:43 AM
the idea of Cage screaming, "VEEENGEEEAAANCEE!" is a riot, however.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:46 AM
What is it about Cage that's so annoying? It's hard to place. I did like Bringing out the Dead.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:49 AM
He used to have a fetchingly naive sort of thing going. Think of him in Moonstruck or Raising Arizona; not stupid, but somehow innocently loopy.
Cage has had some horrendous plastic surgery, from the looks of things.
Is that it? He's certainly weird looking these days.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 11:51 AM
When did Cage go from doing comedies to more angsty movies. For me I think Snake Eyes followed by 8mm marked Cage consciously trying to play a different type of role.
I just can't see him as a leather-clad outlaw motorcycle racer. Even if Ghost Rider was a pretty clean cut motorcyle racer back in the early 80s.
[I tried to google for a picture of Ghost Rider back in the days when he was hanging out with Team America but this doesn't show much]
Posted by NickS | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:07 PM
I thought the accepted theory is that Nicholas Cage is still a talented actor who simply has unimaginably poor taste in roles most of the time. Kriston, you thought he detracted from Adaptation? That's shocking.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:14 PM
Here we are -- older Ghost Rider.
I don't think that looks any more like Nicholas Cage than the modern GR.
(not sure what happened to this comment the first time I tried to post it.)
Posted by NickS | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:16 PM
What was that Indiana Jones knockoff he was in? I saw the last twenty or fifteen minutes of that in happier times and man, it was terrible.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:16 PM
National Treas—
(vomits)
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:21 PM
Movies I think Cage was good in:
Peggy Sue got Married
Raising Arizona
Moonstruck
It Could Happen to You (aka Cop Gives Waitress $2 Million Tip) (also, the movie is terrible)
Leaving Las Vegas (a rare moment of agreement between me and the academy)
Face/off
Adaptation
and Matchstick Men (despite the twitchiness)
I've heard he was quite good in:
Vampire's Kiss
Red Rock West
Wild at Heart
but to my great shame, I have not seen any of those.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:38 PM
I liked Snake Eyes. Red Rock West was pretty good but The Last Seduction was better (same director, same spirit; also, Linda Fiorentino.... rrrowr.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 12:59 PM
Totally agreed on Fiorentino and Last Seduction (except the part about it being better than a movie I have never seen). I was going to say it also features Bill Pullman's best ever performance, but I could see arguments for Zero Effect. Or nostalgia for Spaceballs.
I saw Snake Eyes in theatres and thought it was so bad that I have purposefully avoided seeing it again. And I like a lot of De Palma's work.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 1:07 PM
Jeez, I read that plot summary for Ghost Rider; Scientology makes more sense.
Posted by Gunther | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 2:49 PM
You know, I never understood the appeal of the "extra violent" marvel books, such as Punisher or Ghost Rider.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:26 PM
FL,
You've intimated that you saw Batman...at the end, did there seem to be any, hrm, "loose threads" to you? I'm trying to ask without giving away spoilers. Basically, either I missed it or the gas trouble wasn't resolved. In brief looks around the web, I haven't any other people complaining about it, so maybe it's me. On the other hand, I went with 2 other people, and none of us saw the issue resolved. I need confirmation.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:32 PM
re the gas problem—there's a scene towards the end where he buys some beano.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:35 PM
the idea of batman sneaking up on a villian but being given away by a loud fart is quite humorous.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:37 PM
Michael- I saw it last night, I hadn't thought about that. Now that I do, you're pretty clearly correct. Batman only managed to reduce the scale of the problem.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:42 PM
OMG this ju5t occured to me!!1! Batman is so strong because he is a NINJA, right? And NINJAS have POWER that is REAL and ULTIMATE! So when BATMAN fights RA'S AL GHUL neither can win bec4use they're both NINJAS and they both have ULTIMATE POWER mean1ng they are NECESSARILY EQUAL. But, think if you have 500 NINJAS fighting 1 NINJA. You would th1nk that the 500 NINJAS would win, but they wouldn't (you stupid dumbass!)! 500 x ULTIMATE is still ULTIMATE! Isn't that AWESOME!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:45 PM
Michael, that was sooooooooooo sweet that I want to crap my pants.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:57 PM
Basically, either I missed it or the gas trouble wasn't resolved. In brief looks around the web, I haven't any other people complaining about it, so maybe it's me.
Batman only managed to reduce the scale of the problem.
Once it's contained, they can go back and take care of the people in the affected area, no? Though there does seem to be a time issue that doesn't get addressed.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 3:59 PM
But isn't that a lot of people, including all of the police? And the time issue is two weeks, right?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:13 PM
I was trying to be vague; don't think I was vague enough. Sorry.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:14 PM
Two weeks? But there was all that rushing to get her,/i> to safety.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:15 PM
*her to safety
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:16 PM
two weeks is what Morgan Freeman needed? I couldn't quite remember, but I knew it wasn't immediate.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:18 PM
ac, she got an extra-strong dose
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:19 PM
Right.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:31 PM
Nick Cage was at the same show in Vegas as i was a couple of years back. It turns out that either he bought his house from Tom Jones or vice versa, (it was a Tom Jones show in Vegas, its not unusual for those of us who go to these things with a certain sense of irony to be pretty drunk when they start). This scored him major points in my book.
Wild at Heart, Red Rock West, Moonstruck and Raising Arizona all rate. Saw that codetalker thing while in hotel not too long ago. Ugh. Not as bad as harrison Ford, who has now reduced acting to a continuous pained expression, mostly because Cage is more mobile in his now uniformly bad acting. Con Air was on cable last night. And the cast was amazing, although there was a lot of phoning it in going on.
And there are good tamales in Reno, not far from the Hilton.
Posted by benton | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 8:56 AM
I had the same thought re: Batman. I figured all those people were goners. And would be rationalized away Buck Turginson-style.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:18 AM
ac—she got a concentrated dose.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:19 AM
Also, "Turgidson".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:19 AM
Your mother.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:20 AM
Indeed, I cannot deny that my mother has a turgid son, videlicet, my own self, both physiologically, as any member of the fairer sex to have encountered my intumescent member can vouch, and figuratively too, as I challenge even Góngora in the use of ornate ποικιλια.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:24 AM
Now you're just rubbing it in.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:26 AM
At the Mineshaft.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-22-05 9:28 AM