Labs, you eat dinner waay early. Although playing the bass is cool- now I imagine you as some Stanley Clarke-type wearing a labcoat, funkin' out on the D-string.
Mad magazine used to have movie parodies with significantly high levels of verbally-announced vomiting. The trigger would often be the script. The internet is not backing me up on this.
Labs, don't you play a double bass? And doesn't this officially mean you have to find all the people making Stanley Clarke comments and kick their asses?
Listening to some samples, this Clarke guy sounds a bit like Victor Wooten, who is awesome. So I provisionally like Stanley Clarke. But, boy, does Wooten have better taste in bandmates.
I've listened to some of his stuff, and didn't like it, but in concert, with the plucking, slapping, playing thing, he's amazing. Sorry if I'm falling for some gimmick or schtick, but he's awesome.
Accusations of wankery are standard to level at people with showy, highly developed technical prowess. I actually know very little about Clarke, except that the one time I listened to Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior I thought it blew.
No, I would not. The (non-bass-wankful) samples over at stanleyclarke.com sounded more like Jazz-cheez than anything Corea-esque. But I didn't have a chance to listen to them all.
Well, I'm not saying that this is operative here (because, as I say, I'm mostly unfamiliar with Clarke), but here's a way of looking at it. You and I know that pixie sticks aren't the best candy going. But to Rod and Todd, they're amazing, simply because the two are unfamiliar with candy in general. Just as these two are sweet innocents, ogged is a musical innocent, who fell prey to the first finger-tapping bass wizard whose way passed his.
Ogged doesn't like Rush, thanks. What Ben says is possibly true, and maybe Clarke isn't extraordinary at what he does, but I'm not a complete innocent, and I would be very very surprised. Go see him in concert if you get a chance.
No, Clarke is extraordinary at what he does. That's not what I meant. The allegation is that what he does is in poor taste (not that I'm making that allegation—but were I to allege, it is that which I would allege).
The Editing Room is pretty cool. I didn't know it was still up.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 3:38 PM
Ben, could I possibly know about one cool thing that you don't know about? Or maybe we could pretend?
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 3:42 PM
You know how to play a bass, that's cool.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 3:48 PM
DON'T YOU DARE PLACATE ME, WOLFSON! Ok, I have to go eat dinner.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 3:53 PM
Labs, you eat dinner waay early. Although playing the bass is cool- now I imagine you as some Stanley Clarke-type wearing a labcoat, funkin' out on the D-string.
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 5:26 PM
My one bit of Jazz knowledge: Stanley Clarke, in concert, is awesome.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 9:32 PM
> EWAN MCGREGOR
I can hardly tell who is shooting
who in this dizzying space battle
sequence!
HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN
Yeah, it's pretty confusing.
EWAN MCGREGOR
No, I mean literally dizzying!
(vomits)
Mad magazine used to have movie parodies with significantly high levels of verbally-announced vomiting. The trigger would often be the script. The internet is not backing me up on this.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 06-19-05 11:51 PM
Labs, don't you play a double bass? And doesn't this officially mean you have to find all the people making Stanley Clarke comments and kick their asses?
Any time you need more direction, I'm here.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 1:02 PM
Labs is more of a Jack Bruce guy.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 1:04 PM
Pastoriutollah Mingus-Labs.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 1:08 PM
Step off, Matt. Stanley is more powerful than you can ever imagine.
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:00 PM
Have I mentioned how awesome Stanley Clarke is? I don't even like jazz, and I'd go see him every night for a week if he were in town.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:05 PM
That's because your like of wankery outweighs your dislike of jazz.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:56 PM
What the hell is wrong with Stanley Clarke? By which I actually mean, have you seen him in concert?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 4:59 PM
Wankery?
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:05 PM
Listening to some samples, this Clarke guy sounds a bit like Victor Wooten, who is awesome. So I provisionally like Stanley Clarke. But, boy, does Wooten have better taste in bandmates.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:20 PM
Plus, his name is Wooten. Wooten!
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:21 PM
Standpipe, are you really suggesting that some dork called Futureman is a better bandmate than, say, Chick Corea?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:39 PM
Or Jean-Luc Ponty?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:40 PM
I've listened to some of his stuff, and didn't like it, but in concert, with the plucking, slapping, playing thing, he's amazing. Sorry if I'm falling for some gimmick or schtick, but he's awesome.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:40 PM
Accusations of wankery are standard to level at people with showy, highly developed technical prowess. I actually know very little about Clarke, except that the one time I listened to Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior I thought it blew.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:42 PM
No, I would not. The (non-bass-wankful) samples over at stanleyclarke.com sounded more like Jazz-cheez than anything Corea-esque. But I didn't have a chance to listen to them all.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:43 PM
Standpipe, are you ... No, I would not.
Tsk.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:45 PM
Accusations of wankery are standard to level at people with showy, highly developed technical prowess.
Yah, I know. I just thought wankophilia was a strange charge to level at ogged, given his other musical inclinations.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:46 PM
Well, I'm not saying that this is operative here (because, as I say, I'm mostly unfamiliar with Clarke), but here's a way of looking at it. You and I know that pixie sticks aren't the best candy going. But to Rod and Todd, they're amazing, simply because the two are unfamiliar with candy in general. Just as these two are sweet innocents, ogged is a musical innocent, who fell prey to the first finger-tapping bass wizard whose way passed his.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:50 PM
OK, gotcha. In the same vein, we could expect ogged to be a huge fan of Rush, having heard only the drum solos.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:52 PM
Ogged doesn't like Rush, thanks. What Ben says is possibly true, and maybe Clarke isn't extraordinary at what he does, but I'm not a complete innocent, and I would be very very surprised. Go see him in concert if you get a chance.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:54 PM
I know you don't like Rush, but I suspect that has more to do with the vocals and the Rand-flavored lyrics than Neil Peart's drumming.
Ah, I give up. I'm just going to read comments for a while, and see if I can't botch that, too.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 5:59 PM
No, Clarke is extraordinary at what he does. That's not what I meant. The allegation is that what he does is in poor taste (not that I'm making that allegation—but were I to allege, it is that which I would allege).
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 06-20-05 6:06 PM