Re: We Should All Be Nicer

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These days, you gotta go for "oy, vey ist mir". Cliché inflation, you know.

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The U of C has one-year reunions, which seems kind of silly to me, but it did bring a friend whom I wouldn't otherwise have seen (well, for a few months, anyway) back to town, which was nice.

Based on her post there doesn't seem to have been anyone she actually wanted to see there, so I wonder why she went, other than to be supercilious and have a bad time.

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True Confession: I wrote stuff like that when I thought I was being Tom Wolfe, about how I didn't like certain mandatory cocktail parties. O, see me Observe! It went into a drawer. Now everyone's juvenilia lives forever on the Internets. We should indeed all be nicer.

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the problem with the piece is overstatement. As ogged pointed out. If you were to take out every observation, and make it understated instead of overstated, it would read well.

So, Slo, I wouldn't be so ashamed of your subject matter -- a person could write well about not enjoying conversations, if one did not exaggerate everything, and maybe was a self-deprecating about it.

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If it weren't overstated, it wouldn't have a point.

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not true. or if so, I would rejoin, it doesn't need a point -- not if it's an accurate representation of an interesting character's reaction to a situation. Even if the situation is mundane.

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like, say, a fellow wandering around Dublin for a day.

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A lack of overstatement wouldn't make the character as presented in the piece interesting.

The problem isn't just its overstatement, it's also its unremitting and entirely conventional negativity.

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Or perhaps I should be nicer.

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You find LB's blog, and then you harsh on it. Nice, ogged.

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it's negativity is tied to its overstatement -- that which is overstated is all of the negative observation. Which is, admittedly, all of the observation. It tends to make the character seem like a negative person, but unawares that she is negative. Which would make her intolerable.

But there are compelling, negative narrators -- often those with some self-realization.

Hmm. I might go so far as to say that understated observation -- in as much as it requires a unique thought or two -- tends to make a character interesting.

What I am saying is that the piece would be better if it were written better.

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it's! it's! curses! fie on me!

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I find that claim hard to contest. But I also think that if it were understated or written better it would perforce be completely different. It wouldn't just be toned down, because as it is it's so overheated it's like, you know, the proteins are entangling/custard is setting/sugar is doing whatever sugar does at the point beyond which you can't just cool it down so you'd better get a copper pot and a candy thermometer, mister.

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you are right -- there's no real saving the piece, except to turn it up even more and have a steaming batch of crazy-overstated Hunter Thompson type prose. Which would require some imagination.

Also, understatement that actually tells you something isn't the easiest thing to do -- that would require all sorts of new ingredients.

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Don't the proteins denature?

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Yes, but they also get entangled with one another. See this informative pdf!

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I'm not sure exactly which terms need to googlefight it out, but I'd bet on my version.

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But my point is that both denaturation and entangling occur.

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Not disputing that, more that denaturing is a more natural metaphor because it retains your intended message of an irreversible change of form and is the more common usage.

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A helpful writing guide.

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you'd better get a copper pot and a candy thermometer, mister.

That's disgusting, Ben. Jesus.

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Ben and text, I think the real problem with this piece goes way beyond either just "negativity" or "bad writing". Slolernr more or less hit on what struck me as the overarching theme: almost cartoonish pretentiousness. Much of it is, as Slo suggested, probably just youthfulness, but some of it is the obvious intent to portray herself as somehow distinguished from the usual crowd of ivy-league clones while still getting a chance to point out that she did in fact go to an Ivy League school.

Ben's right about one thing: adjustments in the writing style would not really be possible without a complete change in the attitude and intent of the writer.

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So I think Walter has hit it on the head -- Opinionista is Tom Wolfe.

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and I would like to hit myself on the head for being awake.

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The piece doth irk! Let me count the ways:

1) None of the observations sounded as if they had to be observed to be written. "It was briefly satisfying to learn that the scene did in fact fit my prediction..." Yeah, yours and anyone who's read any tell-all prep lit in the past 10 years.


2) It reads as if it were an attempt to garner the compliments it did in fact get: "At 2:40 PM, Anonymous said... God. I'm so glad you're not like them, Opinionista..."

3) And that's what really got me. She attended this (don't forget to notice I said!) Ivy League school, right? She went on to become a prestigious lawyer and moreoever, one concerned enough with rankings to be able to insert it as someone else's inner monologue. But she doesn't acknowledge that she's just as bad/social-climbing/pretentious, etc... and that's a shame, because the potential for teh funny would have been there with an edit and a lighter touch. Instead it just sounds as if she hates everyone and tends to assume that they hate her when really, she's just not that important.

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I'm canceling my subscription!

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I think I ran into this woman at the very reunion she describes. She was so elusive and deadpan that I bailed on the conversation after about a minute.

Me: "married?"

She: "I'm hoping to avoid all that"

Me: "great"

She: "just kidding about that you know"

Me: "yep"

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Back in the deep dark recesses of singledom I remember being hit upon by this woman's doppleganger. (Of course I remember it because I remember all such incidents of being hit upon since they happen with the frequency of solar eclipses). Her tactic was to create a shared space between us by relentlessly putting down everything else that there was to see. And doing it in a "tractor trailer" wreck style. Thus it was like we were the last people on earth. And I wanted to run screaming into the night.

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I actually had sex with this woman after the reunion, despite her low admission rate, because my penis is [Juggernaut Firm]. I bailed after about a minute, though.

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Eventually I head to the Class Tent to begin the first round of bland artificial greetings.

Does she not realize that she embodies the bland artificiality of those who pretend to reject bland artificiality? No?

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Great scott, 29 made me cry tears of joy. That's a superkoranic quality comment.

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I don't think it's just the "almost cartoonish pretentiousness," though I think that's a big part of it. It's the simple painfulness of it all. You read the bit, and are pained to know she is out there, inflicting herself on people. You are aware that it must be painful to be someone who (after all) went to an Ivy and still writes so tritely - the piece must represent some best effort to seem like the type of person who has a "meaningful" life. If adolescence was hard the first time out, it must be doubly so in your thirties. You also (or at least I) have the pain of recognition - you once were a bit like her.

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29 did rock.

For some reason Springsteen came to mind. If you hadn't pulled out, maybe Janey'd have a baby, but that wouldn't be any sin.

And now, in the Mineshaft, we get to say "I wasn't just hard like Jacoby and Myers, I was hard like Cravath, Swain...." And in fact, there is probably a rap in their.

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Superkoranic doesn't begin to describe the sublime nature of 29. I move that Fontana's second-level derivative nickname be changed from Gayatollah abu-Labs to [Juggernaut Firm].

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I bailed after about a minute, though.

It's for the best. When the sex is empty, like a refrigerator that has no food, or perhaps just not the snack you're looking for, is empty, you may find yourself temped to suspend your doubt and keep returning to find your snack, which is a metaphor for having sex, again and again, and you may not notice that your conceit is misogynist until it's too late.

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See?

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I'm big pimpin'/ like Debevoise and Plimpton.

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Hey, I used to work there. Nice people.

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I'm big pimpin'/ like Debevoise and Plimpton

My phat briefs will give you a seizure

Wearin' white shoes like Donovan & Leisure

Drop a motion on you like an a-bomb, hell,

You nothin' but a punk from Sullivan & Cromwell

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What, you don't know my mixin' is bawdy?

What, you thought this was Nixon Peabody?

Are you some kind of heckler?

We aren't at Epstein Becker.

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The rhymes you make are a lame-ass joke,

Like those white-shoe punks from Davis Polk.

You're as weak as Olympic curling

Me, I'm scarier than Sherman & Sterling.

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[redacted]

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But the first two lines are great.

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Yeah, I had the inspiration, yet couldn't seal the deal.

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"...gettin' originalis' like Kirkland an' Ellis

I'm rockin the state like Condoleezza Rice is?"

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Question mark should be outside the quotation marks.

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From the Cad to the Wallader

I bring it tighter but nigga

Ya game is whiter and squalider

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"...I got more bling than a wing-tipped Elvis"?

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Don't be a Leiter-hata.

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49 to ?

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No one in particular; I just wanted to get in on the originalist theme.

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Actually it could address the anti-ranking subtheme of 25, too.

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Yo, I'm the king of this white-shoes rap,

So you can quit flappin' your uptown traps.

I come upside yo' head with a thump

And send you limpin' back to Aikin Gump.

I make mike magic like that boy Aladdin

And I work you like an associate at Skadden

'fI can't think of a firm rhyme, that's no loss

I make one up, like Louis Auchincloss.

You might think yo' rhymes be superkoranic

But I send you fleein' in a one-L panic

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MoFo, yo.

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MoFo was (a) too in love with that moniker, and (b) dropped it, I think.

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"I'm more world shakin' than Feist is"?

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These firm names are deadly to rhyme with. Try Jones Day.

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I gotcha rhyme fo Jones & Day

I break up all yo bones & say

I'ma hangin' Justice like Tony Scalia,

I lock you up and never free ya

They ain't no firm I can't talk smack on

Nor precedents I won't go back on

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sl, are you high right now?

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I put you punk-ass bitches in crisis--

I'm unprecedented; fuck stare decisis

raise a black fis'

get originalis'

I'm a rapper, a rhymer, and one mean cellist.

Or whatever that thing is you play.

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I have the concept, but can't get the execution: Labs's first two lines from 42, Jones Day, and potential rhymes with "gay" and "Condoleezza Rice is". Anyone?

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sl, are you high right now?

Writing for fun always makes me giddy.

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Anyone?

I'm no token like Condi Rice is

Or Philip Michael Thomas from Miami Vice is

In my real life, I'm not that way

But my secret identity's so gay

I put PowerLine in a sexual panic

An' my special powers are superkoranic

I can rap an' brag an' rhyme

And analyse yo' Bein' an' Time

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Uh, anyone else?

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Sippin' a hip dyke hooker, I collered her

Wall Street sweet like Stroock or Cadwalader

It's not very street.

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Uh, anyone else?

Jeez, the ingratitude. They always said not to take unpaid commissions, and now I know why....

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Smack you down like I meant it; fuck stare decisis, I'm unprecented! Like Jones Day go all the way to Superior Court. I got no fear a ya, you're gay like Condoleezza Rice is.

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'unprecedented'

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Most impressive about FL's rap is the thematic consistancy -- it's like rap for Clarence Thomas! And speaking of, with a few revisions...

Living Constitution: blow me.

Kennedy: a vacillating phony.

Ralph Neas? Please.

He's a sucker MC

Loosing his bladder

When I review Miranda

That bitch is in crisis

Fuck stare decisis

This ain't no joke

Pubic hair on your coke

Talking jive like Larry Tribe

My dissents are emphatic

My scientifics mathematic

New federalism? Boy I am it.

So raise a black fist

Get originalist

Cause with Rhenquist gone I'm top of the list

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You got abhorrence for my rhetoric, say it's heterosexist, better stick to Lawrence v. Texas. I don't want you to think this, I'm uptight like Bill Rehnquist. Don't be a hater, be like Ruth Bader.

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Holy shit. "Pubic hair on your coke."

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[redacted]

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you know I got Sowell

Now that rulz.

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Comin' straight outta Georgia

Crazy motherfucka named Clarence

Abortion? Not without consent from yo' parents

The founding fathers' intents I'll unravel

Long Dong Silver can't compare to this gavel...

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Clarence/parents is brilliant.

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straight outta Georgia!

the mothafucka that'll smother your lover

and lock away your baby brutha --

Casuists know my opinions is scary

I makes my rules with the dictionary.

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late to the party

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I come down hard on the Kelo decision

FMV for your rhymes is public derision

Won't raize your house but I'ma raise the roof

I gots legal proofs

No love for legal poofs

Let me hear tha dog pound woof

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Yeah, they call me Ren-Q

But you can call me Chief Justice

I'm-a straighten out my robe

And proceed to bust this

Word up to Fat Tony, Ruthie B to the G

Crazy Clarence, Souta Sout, and Kenny D

Can't forget Breydawg and creaky old JP

And last but not least Sandy the O.C.

Sucker MCs be sayin' I'm resigning

Because my health be fast declinin'

But this shit ain't typhoid, just a wack thyroid

I ain't soft, so step off, or get popped

Like a chancroid.

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"raze".

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My raps sounds like Dr. Seuss :-(

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>I makes my rules with the dictionary.

>Long Dong Silver can't compare to this gavel...

excellent

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My raps sounds like Dr. Seuss

I don't care if you raise a stench

I would not, could not from this bench

I don't care if you line my pocket

I will not put that on the docket

I will not hear it though you squirm

I will not hear that case this term

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would you, could you, in a court?

would you, could you, just for sport?

no!

not just for sport!

not in this court!

i will not hear your reprimand!

i will not let you take the stand!

(i think i have a blog-crush on the apostropher.)

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[redacted]

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Who doesn't have a blog-crush on apostropher?

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Now here's a position I get to appoint

A brand new Justice goin' up in the joint

Gotta find me a right-wing minority

So the Dems can't find a way to fili-b

Clarence was sure good

To replace Thurgood

But I can do better than daddy {repeat as needed}

Alberto G looks like a lock

Needin' no warrant to put 'em in the dock

No time for habeas ok and maybe it's

No more Gideon and I'm not kiddin'

Ridin' cross the land, kickin' up sand

Lockin' em up with a firm remand

Or maybe I can find me an Eskimo

With politics that let her overturn Roe

Or an Asian against regulation --

A good Khmer who's keen on Lochner

Might make us happy, yo

But nothing could beat a High Court seat

And keep kulturkampfers cocksure

Like a closet-case who'd pull a volte-face

Junking Lawrence and keeping us pure

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Who doesn't have a blog-crush on apostropher?

This guy.

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That guy, is not a nice guy.

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Wow. That there is a blog thread, yessiree.

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jane roe

bitch, i turn you over

ruth bader?

I did her, in the cloak room

me and nino done split her.

you don't like that?

I'm too black?

fuck you fucking honkies

honky say "judge thomas

I think you've demeaned the federalist society"

word up chump

it's my party, the token's on top

your ho loves the long dong

and my homies eat it up.

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Yes, but he's an idiot.

Who among the intelligent does not have a blog-crush on the apostropher?

Sing, O Muse, of the man,

The man who was never at a loss -

always finding the crux of the cock joke, buried though it was

in an obscure link underneath the wine-dark seas of the Internet,

crying aloud mightily "I'm not named after the f*cking punctuation mark, already."

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Who among the intelligent

Yes, but to borrow from Adlai Stevenson, that's not enough; we need to win the election.

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the apostropher is an elected position?

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Someone should start a firm called Fox and Socks:

In legalese these three pleas blew.

While these pleas blew, sleazy fees grew.

Sleazy fees made these three pleas sleaze.

Sleazy fees made these pleas' draftees sleaze.

That's what made these pleas' draftees partner.

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the apostropher is an elected position?

Fuck (to oboe) no. I rule by a divine man-date.

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but he is a man of many twists and turns.

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And I thought I was near the good-taste boundary.

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100!

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but he is a man of many twists and turns.

Am I reading enough into this comment?

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98 to 91, not to the Apo.

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Fuck! Premature commentation.

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eb, that pwns.

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Yeah, I might have gone a bit too far, but I was all blocked up until I decided to just be dirty, IYKWIM.

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IOKIFYARapper, I guess.

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I think 91 scans better omitting line 4 (cloak room).

Otherwise, solid.

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And speaking of transcending genre...

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There's only one appropriate parody for Condoleezza Rice:

Rice, Rice, Baby

All right, hype, exaggerate, and heighten

Rice is back with a motive for the fightin'

Struttin', with her neocon bling

Fat Gold Cheney and a casus belli-button ring

Will she ever stop? Yo, she's on fire.

Promising cake, deliv'rin' quagmire

To the extreme, we're sackin' towns like the Vandals

Shock to the awe, and prison camps for the scandals

PNAC-paddywhack, prophesy doom,

Promise a cloud rising up like a mushroom

Deadly

Though the evidence vexes

Gap-tooth Yellowcake Rose of Texas

G to the O to the P, that's for life,

Look at the boss and pretend you're his wife

If there was a problem, yo, deny it;

Get you some cover from a friendly Fred Hiatt..

Rice, Rice, Baby…

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That is bizarre and transcendent. On a level with this.

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Joe, that's awesome.

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White boy rap I can do.

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Though the evidence vexes

Gap-tooth Yellowcake Rose of Texas

Outstanding!

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Thanks, guys.

That took up way too much of my afternoon.

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Dude.

You are the man. The Ice man.

"Casus-belli button ring" is wonderful.

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What I would give to see you all re-perform this at an open-mike night somewhere...

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I have killed unfogged. Damn.

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It was the collective shudder we all had at the thought of seeing each other in our full, fleshly dorkiness. Some are already on the path to recovery; some are lost for good.

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I think Fontana looks like D'Angelo

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Or does D'Angelo look like Fontana? Hmm?

I suspect we mostly resemble MC Paul Barman.

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Maybe you do, apo. But there's room enough in this blog for two Jewish rappers.

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So what the hell, are all y'all reading Heidegger, or what?

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Afterglow.

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Maybe it was a mass landshark incident.

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We saw the moment of our greatness flicker,

And saw the infernal lurkers read our jokes and snicker,

And in short, we were afraid.

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There is a place where the comments end,

And before the posts begin,

And there the sass goes out of sight,

And there the puns turn out just right,

And there the posters stop for the night

To rest in the stillness therein.

Let us leave this place where the snark grows thick

And the long threads wind and bend.

Past the prompts where the inside jokes go

We shall type with a type that is measured and slow,

And click where the soft-white arrows go

To the place where the comments end.

Yes we'll type with a type that is measured and slow,

And we'll click where the soft-white arrows go,

For the pointer, it marks, and the pointer, it knows,

The place where the comments end.

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The power goes out last night. I wake up this morning and discover I've helped create a genre. Stunning. Thank you all. I haven't laughed this hard in a while.

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On the ride into work I came up with this for the Brett Kavanaugh judiciary hearings

Ken Starr used to be there to change your diaper

Now its time to pay the piper

From precedents, opinions you would cobble

but you are nothing but a baby with a bottle

You think jurisprudence is sucking (workplace edit)

Step back boy and go for your Glock.

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How do you solve a problem like Scalia?

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Also, the redacted 42 had this moment of rare competence:

I put you punk-ass bitches in crisis

I'm unprecedented, fuck stare decisis

Thank you for your understanding.

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