But the candle the burns twice as bright burns twice as quick, and Ogged's passion for profgrrl burned so very brightly, Ben. Such love, once spent, leaves no fuel from which to be kindled again.
Ogged, with your comment you show yourself to be outclassed in this discussion. Your off-handedly vulgar dismissal of Michael's reasonable and well-stated point offends, but what offends more is your attribution of those low sentiments to me.
Michael, as I said, your point is right. It brings to mind the words of the great poet Rumi, as interpreted by one of the foremost Muslim songwriters of our century, Richard Thompson, and misheard by one of our leading practitioners of aleatory/creative criticism (myself—I hope you'll forgive my lack of modesty):
When my heart breaks, it breaks like a well If you leave me now it'll firm up forever
Except, of course, that nothing about ogged has been "firm" in over 500 days.
(The actual lines are "When my heart breaks it breaks like the weather / If you leave me now it'll thunder forever".)
I hear that if you go to a bar and target emotionally vulnerable older women and tell them you're a reformed rapist, that kind of ends up getting you some action.
It's in Santa Clara, which I take it is somewhere in northern California. If PG had begged for a few days, I would have seriously considered letting her pay half my fare.
Well, I am able to google "pizza italian stanford," if that's what you mean by familiar. I suppose it's the same way that Bridgeplate is familiar with blogging. But if Santa Clara is so close to Stanford, maybe you should go to the conference.
I'm still in Chicago. I figure that, running, it will take me at least a day to reach the west coast—normally of course I couldn't run a single mile but I expect the thought of profgrrrl will suffice to bear me aloft and carry me swiftly into her arms.
Sigh. Being in California (albeit the wrong half), and a blogger (at least theoretically), and female (ditto), and a wee bit drunk, but miles from the nearest conference hotel or frathaus, I'm quite convinced I've made some weekend-plotting mistake...
I just spent the last two hours on my next door neighbor's patio listening to Def Leppard play a conference at the minor league stadium a couple blocks away. Now I depart for a party, where there will be hot young single people to make me feel old and hopelessly uncool.
I'm trying to get myself to work on my Russian, but most likely will end up reading other things. But I did go out to dinner earlier, so that's something I guess.
And what's wrong with blog-commenting under the assumed name of a famous hedgehog? One would hardly wish to blog-comment under the assumed name of an infamous hedgehog, would one?
As a writer for a newsmagazine for, as it claims, "the discriminating news consumer", how do you feel about your haste in reporting pwnage? Should you not have waited until hearing from all parties? Is this what you call responsible journalism?
Gah! HT says he's going to sue for stolen identity.
Sorry I disappeared last night. Spotty wireless in this hotel and then I had to go to dinner. I did come back to try to tell you that the shower was hot and steamy. :)
And now? Well, it is time to have another shower ... if you can get here in 5 minutes, you'll be just in time.
Oh ogged. ogged.
Yes you should have gone.
Sheesh.
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:23 PM
Oh ogged. ogged.
Easy, Tripp. It's been a while, and I'm liable to take that the wrong way.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:25 PM
Ah. Grasshopper.
The BlogHer Conference is a wonderful place to pick up women unless you go there with the intention of picking up women. Understand?
Now snatch the pebble from my hand, Grasshopper...
Posted by Kung Fu | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:30 PM
It's been a while,
Now, what's a while? Like, eight days?
Posted by tweedlehansel | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:36 PM
Yeah, eight days, give or take.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:37 PM
a wonderful place to pick up women unless you go there with the intention of picking up women
You are correct, master. At BlogHer, as in life. I must purify my mind of all desire.
yummmommmmPosted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:38 PM
You know profgrrrl went, right? You could have rekindled the passion that burned so brightly that night.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 3:55 PM
I do know that. But she didn't call and beg me to accompany her.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:00 PM
But the candle the burns twice as bright burns twice as quick, and Ogged's passion for profgrrl burned so very brightly, Ben. Such love, once spent, leaves no fuel from which to be kindled again.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:00 PM
Michael, here's a message from Ben: your mom.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:04 PM
Ogged, with your comment you show yourself to be outclassed in this discussion. Your off-handedly vulgar dismissal of Michael's reasonable and well-stated point offends, but what offends more is your attribution of those low sentiments to me.
Michael, as I said, your point is right. It brings to mind the words of the great poet Rumi, as interpreted by one of the foremost Muslim songwriters of our century, Richard Thompson, and misheard by one of our leading practitioners of aleatory/creative criticism (myself—I hope you'll forgive my lack of modesty):
Except, of course, that nothing about ogged has been "firm" in over 500 days.(The actual lines are "When my heart breaks it breaks like the weather / If you leave me now it'll thunder forever".)
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:22 PM
That's sweet, Ben. Almost as sweet as your mom, your mom, your mom, and, of course, your mom.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:33 PM
I hear that if you go to a bar and target emotionally vulnerable older women and tell them you're a reformed rapist, that kind of ends up getting you some action.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:44 PM
My mom is a sweet lady indeed, ogged.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:44 PM
I do know that. But she didn't call and beg me to accompany her.
Well, where's the conference? Since she now knows where oggedville is maybe she thought you wouldn't be willing to shell out for transport.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 4:56 PM
It's in Santa Clara, which I take it is somewhere in northern California. If PG had begged for a few days, I would have seriously considered letting her pay half my fare.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:00 PM
You mean it's not in Vancouver?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:01 PM
Would that I were so clever.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:09 PM
Santa Clara isn't that far from a restaurant with which you're familiar.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:20 PM
Hey hey, ogged ... I'm here, got the hotel room ... where are you?
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:24 PM
Well, I am able to google "pizza italian stanford," if that's what you mean by familiar. I suppose it's the same way that Bridgeplate is familiar with blogging. But if Santa Clara is so close to Stanford, maybe you should go to the conference.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:25 PM
PG! Bit last minute, ain't it?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:26 PM
Well, I wasn't sure I was actually coming until the technorati folks sent me my plane ticket info ... oh 3 days ago. Not kidding.
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:27 PM
All is forgiven! Where are you and what are you wearing?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:28 PM
I'm on the 12th floor of the Westin and I'm about to step into the shower ...
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:31 PM
Wait!!!!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:31 PM
For me!!!!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:32 PM
Subtle.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:34 PM
The tantalizing female form, slick and steamy, which Ogged's eyes have near forgot..seemingly so close, through the impenetrable electronic medium...
But really, PG's being a CT.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:35 PM
The only possible reason that Wolfson hasn't tried to horn in on this is that he's on his way to the Westin as we type.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:36 PM
I'm not at Stanford yet, ogged.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:44 PM
Hmpf.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:45 PM
I'm still in Chicago. I figure that, running, it will take me at least a day to reach the west coast—normally of course I couldn't run a single mile but I expect the thought of profgrrrl will suffice to bear me aloft and carry me swiftly into her arms.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:46 PM
But what if she doesn't want a pet ferret, Ben?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:48 PM
For a ferret I'm exceptionally smart.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:50 PM
Smarter than a blogging hedgehog?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:51 PM
Yeah, clearly. Not only can I blog, but I can comment at other people's blogs. I've never seen Trevor do that.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:53 PM
You're not doing much to put your prospective housemate at ease.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 5:56 PM
Going offline for a while...now that PG seems to have showered without me.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 6:00 PM
Um, speakening of blogher, what ever happened to Alameida?
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 6:26 PM
She's still in the old country.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 6:34 PM
Is there no internets in ye olde countrie?
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 6:44 PM
Not only is there internets, there's Ozzfests!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 6:48 PM
Now snatch the hedgehog from my hand, Grasshopper...
Posted by Kung Fu | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 7:01 PM
Sigh. Being in California (albeit the wrong half), and a blogger (at least theoretically), and female (ditto), and a wee bit drunk, but miles from the nearest conference hotel or frathaus, I'm quite convinced I've made some weekend-plotting mistake...
Posted by KF | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 8:04 PM
ben... YOU BLEEEEEEEEEW IT.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 8:32 PM
This thread is both beautiful and damned.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 8:40 PM
On the other hand, it's Friday night, and I'm balancing my checkbook.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 8:42 PM
I'm translating German, which I suppose is better than what I would otherwise be doing (hanging out on IRC, since Mimesis as Make-Believe is bo-ring).
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 8:52 PM
I just spent the last two hours on my next door neighbor's patio listening to Def Leppard play a conference at the minor league stadium a couple blocks away. Now I depart for a party, where there will be hot young single people to make me feel old and hopelessly uncool.
Have fun with the German and the checkbook.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:14 PM
A conference?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:17 PM
I'm trying to get myself to work on my Russian, but most likely will end up reading other things. But I did go out to dinner earlier, so that's something I guess.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:34 PM
A fancy dinner? With people?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:36 PM
Non-fancy, with family. You just had to make me admit that, didn't you.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:49 PM
Part of me wanted to make you admit that, yes. A slightly larger part of me was hoping to be regaled with tales of fine food and merriment.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:52 PM
You could have lied.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:52 PM
Maybe I did.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:53 PM
We hope so eb, we hope so.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:53 PM
Good to know your sentiments are in the right place. And people say Unfogged is too snarky. Shame on them.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:56 PM
Who says that!? I'll break their teeth!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 9:58 PM
Hey kf, I think the conference runs through the weekend. You could always fly up.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:00 PM
I had thought Alameida was in xareajlm having mrjkaki7 with &^aepnbvx and rioslggk.
Posted by Brad DeLong | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:25 PM
She is, but apparently now it's the olde country.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:26 PM
Re: "Not only can I blog, but I can comment at other people's blogs. I've never seen Trevor do that."
You must not get out much, then.
Posted by Hedgical Trevor | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:28 PM
You know, Sweden, where they don't have email.
She's started blogging elsewhere; we're her ugly stepsister-blog home.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:28 PM
b-dub is pwned! by a hedgehog.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:30 PM
Hey trevor, ask PG how the big dinner went.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:30 PM
So, if she started blogging elsewhere and it is who I think it is, I'd say Unfogged is more like the red-headed stepchild blog.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:40 PM
[Falsetto]Why grandmother, what great big HTML you have![/Falsetto]
Posted by Brad DeLong | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:41 PM
[coelacanth ~ 11:44:15]$ whois profgrrrl.org
NOT FOUND
[coelacanth ~ 11:44:18]$
I think we have a faux-hedgepig in our midst.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:42 PM
DeLong is re-pwned! by Wolfson.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:44 PM
And what's wrong with blog-commenting under the assumed name of a famous hedgehog? One would hardly wish to blog-comment under the assumed name of an infamous hedgehog, would one?
Posted by Brad DeLong | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:49 PM
Just don't piss off the hedgehog.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 10:56 PM
ogged,
As a writer for a newsmagazine for, as it claims, "the discriminating news consumer", how do you feel about your haste in reporting pwnage? Should you not have waited until hearing from all parties? Is this what you call responsible journalism?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 11:01 PM
I never said "pwned! in perpetuity".
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 11:03 PM
Ogged? Pwned! Judith Miller? Pwned! Niedermeyer?
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-29-05 11:04 PM
A good place to pick up terrible women...
Posted by ogmb | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 12:35 AM
Gah! HT says he's going to sue for stolen identity.
Sorry I disappeared last night. Spotty wireless in this hotel and then I had to go to dinner. I did come back to try to tell you that the shower was hot and steamy. :)
And now? Well, it is time to have another shower ... if you can get here in 5 minutes, you'll be just in time.
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 8:01 AM
When I was a young'un, my parents never thought that someday I would be guilty of committing identity theft upon a hedgehog.
Where oh where did I go wrong?
Posted by Brad DeLong | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 8:17 AM
Wolfson, you like Auerbach's Mimesis, yes?
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 11:18 AM
I did come back to try to tell you that the shower was hot and steamy. :)
And now? Well, it is time to have another shower ... if you can get here in 5 minutes, you'll be just in time.
Out of respect for profgrrrl, those of us who are not touching ourselves already should politiely do so now.
Posted by Stalin | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 11:24 AM
I own but have not read Auerbach's Mimesis, Armsmasher.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 12:17 PM
I refute Stalin.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 12:20 PM
A friend of mine is reading Mimesis and is really enjoying it.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 12:21 PM
Perhaps someday I will imitate your friend.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 12:32 PM
Really? He's gay.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 1:44 PM
Then I won't imitate him in all respects.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 2:15 PM
ogged,
I was telling your tale down at the local watering hole last night and they all said "you can't catch any fish where they ain't."
It made a little more sense last night but I think you get the idea.
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 6:29 PM
The BlogHer conference was on the front page of the san francisco chronicle today.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 6:49 PM
Where oh where did I go wrong?
Hmmm, it's hard to know from here but it probably had something to do with studying economics.
Posted by cw | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 8:59 PM
Ogged ... I'm showering again. Where are you?
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 9:44 PM
profgrrrrl, you have to give him more lead time.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 9:48 PM
Ok, so we're in the shower. Well, I'm about to get in the shower. But, now what?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:29 PM
Help! People, give us suggestions!
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:32 PM
Well, you could wash your hair.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:35 PM
Or, for a special frisson, each other's hair.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:37 PM
Sing songs of merry contentment! Sing songs of merry contentment!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:53 PM
It puts the body gel on the loofah!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:54 PM
Erototic Reciprocating Photoblog! Sp0oky-sex-at-a-distiance!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:55 PM
Falafel anyone?
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 10:56 PM
What the hell is going on?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 11:04 PM
Washerdreyer ... you need help? Duh. Wash her. Dry her. :)
Posted by profgrrrrl | Link to this comment | 07-30-05 11:07 PM
"I had thought Alameida was in xareajlm having mrjkaki7 with &^aepnbvx and rioslggk."
That isn't rot13!
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 07-31-05 5:47 PM
Did you know this topic got panned by Kevin Drum? He says you are embarrassing him.
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 08- 1-05 12:22 PM
I think he knows.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 08- 1-05 12:28 PM
Yeah, thanks, I saw that after I asked the question. I didn't know unfogged and profgggggrl were so well known. Wow.
So now do we have extra pressure to be amusing?
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 08- 1-05 12:33 PM
Nah.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 08- 1-05 12:40 PM