I reluctantly subscribed to TNR online a while back and use it just for the books and arts stuff. I occasionally try to read the politics, but rarely finish the articles.
I don't use the style in public at all often, but I do talk aloud to myself all the time (okay, sure, mostly when other people can't hear me, to be sure, because of the looks). And I talk to myself in my head a lot. Multiple entities in one's brain isn't, perhaps, uncommon.
I've been fond of TNR ever since I read the 19th Century stuff, though; or since I picked it up when I was 6 or 8 or whatever; my parents were liberals after they were members of the Party, after all, and mom quit the Party after Hitler invaded. (She felt very badly afterwards, to be sure, but, then, many did.)
In fairness, I must correct myself, and note that mom quit the Party after the Pact, not the invasion. I was misremembering. She was idealistic, but not totally stupid.
Transferring a feature from the Weblog, I confess that I didn't want to be the first to comment on any of today's posts, because I didn't want to admit to being online, but now it's okay, because I can't sleep and going online due to insomnia is acceptable.
I once filled out a profile form for the evangelical dating site, because I wanted to see what my profile was, but they just rejected me.
Watching the destruction of TNR over the last three years has been terribly sad, if not overly important. At this point, I think they just take the overflow articles from The Weekly Standard and insert the words "and African Americans" every fifth paragraph. If he had any capacity for it at all, Beinart would be ashamed of himself for the rest of his life. (Due credit to Bill Kristol: it's been a decade since he started TWS, and I think he's already passed it in subscription numbers and influence. I'm not crazy about it, and his mag is crap, but that's remarkable.)
Ogged, just admit that the TiVo's calendar weighs heavily on your brow, and get on with it. However bad the match.com stigma, the stigma of being the sort of anonymous ponce who can't admit to using it is worse.
Wasn't TNR destroyed 10-15 years ago by Stephen Glass, Andrew Sullivan, Charles Krauthammer, Mickey Kaus, Michael Kelly, Michael Kinsley, and the others? Has it actually gotten worse since Peretz gave up control?
When I was in Taiwan, my girlfriend there had just rejected a 6-foot-tall Chinese guy. She was tiny, and tall men frightened her. Really tall people were freaks over there.
It was eHarmony which turned me down. I didn't even want to use the service. I just wanted to find out how their 29 dimensions of compatibility scored me.
That was fiendish, Ben. Googling "Liskov violation" brings up about four suggestions that you should Google "Liskov violation", or otherwise add the phrase to your vocabulary.
If something isn't in Google, it doesn't exist. The "Liskov violation" is the Liar's Paradox of this principle.
To be clear, they do ask about religion. As a mainline protestant, I said that I'd be okay with agnostics, other mainliners, Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but no evangelicals. I think that may have disqualified me.
Oh, and I think that I'm kind of proud of having been rejected. It means that I don't fit into their out-of-the-box categories. At least that's what i like to tell myself.
Good for you, ogged. I assume you'll be posting a suitably redacted version of it when finished, yes?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:36 PM
You assume no such thing.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:38 PM
No, really. That's my assumption.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:44 PM
It pays to have a critical third party read over these things, after all.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:45 PM
In that case, you're wrong.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:45 PM
Wait, from the title of this post are we to assume that you're masturbating while making your online profile? Narcissist!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:48 PM
No.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:50 PM
ogged is so hot that even describing himself turns him on.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:50 PM
I don't generally sign up for services unless I at least 35% intend to use them.
For instance, this is why I've never bothered with the registration process for New Republic Online (yes, I know about bugmenot).
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:56 PM
bugmenot doesn't get you to the good stuff at TNR, anyway.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 10:58 PM
Actually Adam, I have a TNR Online subscription, but never use it.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 11:06 PM
What do you guys when other blogs link to TNR content? Remain in dark?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 11:10 PM
I reluctantly subscribed to TNR online a while back and use it just for the books and arts stuff. I occasionally try to read the politics, but rarely finish the articles.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 11:16 PM
I don't use the style in public at all often, but I do talk aloud to myself all the time (okay, sure, mostly when other people can't hear me, to be sure, because of the looks). And I talk to myself in my head a lot. Multiple entities in one's brain isn't, perhaps, uncommon.
I've been fond of TNR ever since I read the 19th Century stuff, though; or since I picked it up when I was 6 or 8 or whatever; my parents were liberals after they were members of the Party, after all, and mom quit the Party after Hitler invaded. (She felt very badly afterwards, to be sure, but, then, many did.)
Posted by Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 11:23 PM
In fairness, I must correct myself, and note that mom quit the Party after the Pact, not the invasion. I was misremembering. She was idealistic, but not totally stupid.
Posted by Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 08- 6-05 11:25 PM
Transferring a feature from the Weblog, I confess that I didn't want to be the first to comment on any of today's posts, because I didn't want to admit to being online, but now it's okay, because I can't sleep and going online due to insomnia is acceptable.
I once filled out a profile form for the evangelical dating site, because I wanted to see what my profile was, but they just rejected me.
Posted by Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 12:27 AM
If you're ever turned down by someone who's looking for an older, shorter, more disagreeable guy, could you forward her name?
I guess I should have asked how tall you are first, though the odds are with me.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 6:20 AM
Mickey Kaus is a human virus.
Posted by Isle of Toads | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 7:07 AM
Watching the destruction of TNR over the last three years has been terribly sad, if not overly important. At this point, I think they just take the overflow articles from The Weekly Standard and insert the words "and African Americans" every fifth paragraph. If he had any capacity for it at all, Beinart would be ashamed of himself for the rest of his life. (Due credit to Bill Kristol: it's been a decade since he started TWS, and I think he's already passed it in subscription numbers and influence. I'm not crazy about it, and his mag is crap, but that's remarkable.)
Ogged, just admit that the TiVo's calendar weighs heavily on your brow, and get on with it. However bad the match.com stigma, the stigma of being the sort of anonymous ponce who can't admit to using it is worse.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 7:58 AM
Wasn't TNR destroyed 10-15 years ago by Stephen Glass, Andrew Sullivan, Charles Krauthammer, Mickey Kaus, Michael Kelly, Michael Kinsley, and the others? Has it actually gotten worse since Peretz gave up control?
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 8:14 AM
how tall you are
Ogged is six feet tall.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 8:18 AM
When I was in Taiwan, my girlfriend there had just rejected a 6-foot-tall Chinese guy. She was tiny, and tall men frightened her. Really tall people were freaks over there.
Why did I ever return?
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 8:26 AM
Unfogged is a Tall Blog. Our leader is Fontana who, if memory serves, hovers somewhere around seven foot.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 9:24 AM
Damn! Y'all at fucking church? I find procrastination difficult without your help.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 12:24 PM
It was eHarmony which turned me down. I didn't even want to use the service. I just wanted to find out how their 29 dimensions of compatibility scored me.
Posted by bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 12:30 PM
eHarmony is evangelical? You would think they might have mentioned that in the ads.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 12:39 PM
It's owned by an evangelical, but doesn't only cater to them, although it does exclude gays. Salon interview here.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 12:42 PM
You **were** in church? An evangelical church?
Oh.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:00 PM
Ogged, quit yer bitching and get laid, already. I will, however, make a Nerve personals ad for you and post the result here. Should be a good time.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:35 PM
Remember, Labs, ads with pictures tend to receive more responses.
Ogged, quit yer bitching and get laid, already
Labs is showing off his English degree by employing the device known as hysteron proteron.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:39 PM
I've been told that Christian girls tend to be cleaner and more enthusiastic.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:48 PM
That's odd; I've been told that Catholic girls tend to be dirtier and more enthusiastic.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:51 PM
Catholics are not Christians.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:53 PM
That's good, because otherwise there'd be a Liskov violation.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 1:57 PM
That was fiendish, Ben. Googling "Liskov violation" brings up about four suggestions that you should Google "Liskov violation", or otherwise add the phrase to your vocabulary.
If something isn't in Google, it doesn't exist. The "Liskov violation" is the Liar's Paradox of this principle.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 2:07 PM
The Liskov substitution principle.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 2:10 PM
Re #20: Well, it was during the Sullivan era that I stopped my subscription. But now I actively root for its demise; that's new.
Re #29: Submit one for him as a straight man and one as teh gay. Maybe we can help him over that last hump.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 5:58 PM
People who have lives, go to church, etc. are really boring and disappointing to webocentric people.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 6:16 PM
14, if you want to talk to yourself in public, just get an earpiece. People still won't like you, but they won't think you're crazy,
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 6:22 PM
There's something off with that eHarmony guy. Strikes me as the sort of guy who has an enormous collection of really weird porn.
Posted by Brian | Link to this comment | 08- 7-05 8:10 PM
To be clear, they do ask about religion. As a mainline protestant, I said that I'd be okay with agnostics, other mainliners, Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but no evangelicals. I think that may have disqualified me.
Posted by bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 8-05 3:44 AM
Oh, and I think that I'm kind of proud of having been rejected. It means that I don't fit into their out-of-the-box categories. At least that's what i like to tell myself.
Posted by bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 8-05 3:48 AM
Why is not fitting into their out-of-the-box categories a priori something to be proud of?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 08- 8-05 9:18 AM