Strange, what you pasted is not what the comment looks like on my screen. anyway, what I was saying (and I hit post instead of preview, or there would have been verbs and stuff on second thought) is that you needed to put in a semicolon after the lt to get it to come out.
Huh. On my browser, my comment 6 came out the way I meant it -- the > and < that I typed appeared as the symbols I intended.
Your 7, though, looks like the way I reproduced it. (I didn't paste it -- If I'd pasted it the < would have appeared as <. I retyped that bit as &lt;. (Of course, given that it appears that our browsers display stuff differently, none of the tricky formatting I did to make that prior bit come out right will make any sense to you. I'm using IE 6.0. What are you using?))
Cripes! I'm using Firefox 1.0.6 on an OS X Mac, and if there's no standard way to make these symbols come out right everywhere for everyone I am just going to cry.
But 11 looks exactly the way I think it should look--I'm going to put extra space in here to make sure no funny business happens:
If I'd pasted it the & a m p l t ; would have appeared as & l t . I retyped that bit as & a m p a m p l t ;.
It's also possible that I'm having one of my episodes of idiocy.
Nope, you seem to be seeing my raw HTML, rather than how my browser interprets my HTML. (That is, the bit of 11 you quoted shows up on my screen as "If I'd pasted it the (ampersand) l t ; would have appeared as (less than symbol). I retyped that bit as (ampersand) a m p l t ;." except that the symbols I (in this post) named in parens showed up as actual symbols in post 11.)
Well. Darn that Microsoft, or whoever's fault this is.
I had a dream about Yglesias once. It was in the buildup to the 2004 election when I was regularly having media and/or election-themed dreams (including one where I hit Maureen Dowd in the nose with a football all Marcia Brady-like).
Anyway, the dream -- I take the DC-NYC shuttle about twice a month and they used to give out free magazines. I would always pick up the conservative rags like The Weekly Standard and Reason because I like to know what the opposition is thinking but I don't like to support them with my money by actually purchasing them. In my dream, I was sitting on the aisle reading the Weekly Standard when some guy asked me my opinion on an article and it was apparent he thought I was reading the magazine because I agreed with it, not as reconnaissance. The inquirer was Yglesias and, although I recognized him, I didn't let on that I knew who he was and had a flirty little conversation about Iraq policy with him. It was all very cheesy Hollywood movie meet-cute. I think the dream proved that (1) I was a little too obsessed with the election and blogs at that time in my life and (2) even the sex dreams in DC are pathetic.
Also, that dream probably sounds really random but it wasn't -- it was actually my subconscious altering something that really happened to me on the Shuttle. Only The Weekly Standard was actually The American Prospect and Matthew Yglesias was actually Stephen Baldwin. It was one of the most hysterical moments of my life -- Mr. "Threesome" now runs a ministry that tries to bring people to God through skateboarding. We discussed Iraq and he tried to get me to accept Jesus Christ as my personal lord and savior. I even got his digits in case I ever wanted to discuss the Bible with him.
Becks, the strangest thing about that dream is how coherent it seems. I would expect something more like...and then I was talking to Matt Y, who turned into a polar bear, and asked me if I liked Mentos, then, at my place, he cooked veal..
I think it's strange that you all have dreams about people you've never met - I have to know someone for months before they ever have a chance of making a dream appearance.
LizardBreath, like Katherine Hepburn. Or maybe more like Cate Blanchett as Katherine Hepburn.
On Christmas Eve in 2000 I was getting off a plane in the SF airport and whom should my mom spot as one of my fellow passengers but Ralph Nader. He had a bad cold, and his nose was really red (like Rudolph). He was by himself. Anyway, I have forever been embarrassed that my desire to bother famous people necessitated that I talk to him, but my natural politeness and timidity made me be flattering, so I came up with these tortured, technical truths but lies by omission like "I'm registered Green" (though I plan on switching my registration to Democrat) and write you a very sternly worded letter, and "A lot of people voted for you at my school" (and I thought they were all crazy.) He was pretty friendly, though he wouldn't shake my hand because he'd been feverishly clutching his used tissue.
Is the degoogling for names of actual meetings with famous people standard out of effect? Would it go out of effect if I suggested that in one of these encounters the proper response might have been to hit the famous person? The word 'on' is not omitted.
Nah, "Stevie B" (as he called himself) didn't deserve to be hit. I actually felt a little sorry for him. Dude had no idea what he was talking about. Alec must eat him alive when politics comes up at family dinners. Had it been any other clueless person trying to bring me to God, yes, I probably would have wanted to smack them but Stevie B punctuated each of his conclusions by playing air drums/guitar and would wiggle his fingers in front of my face making spooky "woo-OOO-ooo" sounds when talking about God's mysticism. That may sound like a smackable offense, but it was actually very amusing.
That's pretty funny. I think I can still rest my case on the other guy. (Although the "People who have no idea what they are talking about but vote Republican because Jesus, dude, and Iraq" are, in my opinion, ruining the country.)
to be fair, there isn't any evidence that Stephen Baldwin voted Republican, is there? There is a pretty strong argument that the religion points in the other direction.
Stevie B totally voted for Bush. He even shilled for him at the RNC. He told me all about how the Iraq war was the beginning of the end-times prophecy and that Bush was elected to office to bring about the Rapture and the reign of Jesus on Earth. (That part wasn't quite as funny as the air guitar.) Also, Mr. Threesome now thinks that September 11 was God's punishment for teh gays.
Now [Mr. Threesome]'s venturing into politics in typical Baldwin fashion, by headlining a party with the Bush twins.
Would I play a murderer who utilized bad language but then went through an awesome metamorphosis and found redemption? Sure! But it would have to be really well written.
God made me cool so that the youth culture would look up to me
I laugh, and then I recall that Friends say to me, "Do your homework, and you'll see what Bush is doing with the environment and the war.... I tell them, "I have done my homework, and I don't agree. I pray for an hour and read the word of God for at least 30 minutes every day. And that experience has told me that I need to support the guy being led by God means we're being led by the guys who organized routine torture of often innocent prisoners etc., and then I cry.
Ogged in charge of our days and our nights,
Ogged in charge of our wrongs and our rights,
I want Ogged in charge of me.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 4:46 PM
Y'know, I started to email you about this when I read it, but figured you had already seen it.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 4:49 PM
I don't know how I missed it. But it's ok, I'm not mad, I'm gentle.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 4:51 PM
Fernando wants ogged in tow, me-oh-my-o
But who wouldn't want a ogged that looked like Baio
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 4:54 PM
I will now never be able to think of ogged without remembering Joanie Loves Chachi.
Unchachied, anyone?
Posted by peter snees | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 4:59 PM
Hey, and about me too! Cool.
<giant ego>So Tia, what do I look like?</giant ego>
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:14 PM
semicolons: <
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:16 PM
And I wouldn't say it's giant ego, necessarily. I'm asking out of self-obsession. I actually spend a lot of time worrying that I'm too self-obsessed.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:17 PM
semicolons: <
This looks like a comment on the formatting of my comment 6, but not one that I comprehend.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:19 PM
Strange, what you pasted is not what the comment looks like on my screen. anyway, what I was saying (and I hit post instead of preview, or there would have been verbs and stuff on second thought) is that you needed to put in a semicolon after the lt to get it to come out.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:29 PM
Huh. On my browser, my comment 6 came out the way I meant it -- the > and < that I typed appeared as the symbols I intended.
Your 7, though, looks like the way I reproduced it. (I didn't paste it -- If I'd pasted it the < would have appeared as <. I retyped that bit as &lt;. (Of course, given that it appears that our browsers display stuff differently, none of the tricky formatting I did to make that prior bit come out right will make any sense to you. I'm using IE 6.0. What are you using?))
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:36 PM
Cripes! I'm using Firefox 1.0.6 on an OS X Mac, and if there's no standard way to make these symbols come out right everywhere for everyone I am just going to cry.
But 11 looks exactly the way I think it should look--I'm going to put extra space in here to make sure no funny business happens:
If I'd pasted it the & a m p l t ; would have appeared as & l t . I retyped that bit as & a m p a m p l t ;.
It's also possible that I'm having one of my episodes of idiocy.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:43 PM
Nope, you seem to be seeing my raw HTML, rather than how my browser interprets my HTML. (That is, the bit of 11 you quoted shows up on my screen as "If I'd pasted it the (ampersand) l t ; would have appeared as (less than symbol). I retyped that bit as (ampersand) a m p l t ;." except that the symbols I (in this post) named in parens showed up as actual symbols in post 11.)
Well. Darn that Microsoft, or whoever's fault this is.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:50 PM
I think maybe I just need to give up on computers.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:55 PM
Though if I'm seeing your raw HTML all the other commentors will be mad jealous.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 5:56 PM
Not so fast, Weiner. I see it too.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:01 PM
Comment 6 in Firefox, and in IE.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:02 PM
I see Heaven, I see Hell
I see Lizard's HTML
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:04 PM
So is there some sort of universal thing that works for all browsers?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:04 PM
Semicolon should work for both.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:11 PM
<giant ego>
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:12 PM
Yup.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:12 PM
My advice in 7 was right all along!</giant ego>
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:14 PM
Entirely too silly.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:38 PM
Basically, IE is wrong.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 6:40 PM
Off topic:
http://spamusement.com/index.php/comics/view/272
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 7:30 PM
IE is wrong
Also, water is wet.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 8:30 PM
I had a dream about Yglesias once. It was in the buildup to the 2004 election when I was regularly having media and/or election-themed dreams (including one where I hit Maureen Dowd in the nose with a football all Marcia Brady-like).
Anyway, the dream -- I take the DC-NYC shuttle about twice a month and they used to give out free magazines. I would always pick up the conservative rags like The Weekly Standard and Reason because I like to know what the opposition is thinking but I don't like to support them with my money by actually purchasing them. In my dream, I was sitting on the aisle reading the Weekly Standard when some guy asked me my opinion on an article and it was apparent he thought I was reading the magazine because I agreed with it, not as reconnaissance. The inquirer was Yglesias and, although I recognized him, I didn't let on that I knew who he was and had a flirty little conversation about Iraq policy with him. It was all very cheesy Hollywood movie meet-cute. I think the dream proved that (1) I was a little too obsessed with the election and blogs at that time in my life and (2) even the sex dreams in DC are pathetic.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 9:50 PM
Also, that dream probably sounds really random but it wasn't -- it was actually my subconscious altering something that really happened to me on the Shuttle. Only The Weekly Standard was actually The American Prospect and Matthew Yglesias was actually Stephen Baldwin. It was one of the most hysterical moments of my life -- Mr. "Threesome" now runs a ministry that tries to bring people to God through skateboarding. We discussed Iraq and he tried to get me to accept Jesus Christ as my personal lord and savior. I even got his digits in case I ever wanted to discuss the Bible with him.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 9:54 PM
Becks, the strangest thing about that dream is how coherent it seems. I would expect something more like...and then I was talking to Matt Y, who turned into a polar bear, and asked me if I liked Mentos, then, at my place, he cooked veal..
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 10:15 PM
I think it's strange that you all have dreams about people you've never met - I have to know someone for months before they ever have a chance of making a dream appearance.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 09-23-05 11:01 PM
LizardBreath, like Katherine Hepburn. Or maybe more like Cate Blanchett as Katherine Hepburn.
On Christmas Eve in 2000 I was getting off a plane in the SF airport and whom should my mom spot as one of my fellow passengers but Ralph Nader. He had a bad cold, and his nose was really red (like Rudolph). He was by himself. Anyway, I have forever been embarrassed that my desire to bother famous people necessitated that I talk to him, but my natural politeness and timidity made me be flattering, so I came up with these tortured, technical truths but lies by omission like "I'm registered Green" (though I plan on switching my registration to Democrat) and write you a very sternly worded letter, and "A lot of people voted for you at my school" (and I thought they were all crazy.) He was pretty friendly, though he wouldn't shake my hand because he'd been feverishly clutching his used tissue.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 09-24-05 7:51 AM
(including one where I hit Maureen Dowd in the nose with a football all Marcia Brady-like)
Would that dreams came true.
Ogged, I want to hear more about your dream bear veal pundit.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-24-05 8:11 AM
Ogged, I want to hear more about your dream bear veal pundit.
I imagine the bear trimmer is somehow involved.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 09-24-05 8:33 AM
26 is always on topic. </giant ego>
Is the degoogling for names of actual meetings with famous people standard out of effect? Would it go out of effect if I suggested that in one of these encounters the proper response might have been to hit the famous person? The word 'on' is not omitted.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-24-05 7:23 PM
at least one
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-25-05 12:47 PM
Out with it, Weiner. You clearly want to talk.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-25-05 12:52 PM
I think you know what I mean.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-25-05 1:06 PM
when did unfogged become a house of coy demure? Out with it! Out with it I say, all of you! I am obtuse and do not know what you mean, in fact.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-25-05 1:41 PM
At least one of Steppphen Baldddwwin and Ralllphhhh Nadddeeer deserves to be hit.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 10:23 AM
Nah, "Stevie B" (as he called himself) didn't deserve to be hit. I actually felt a little sorry for him. Dude had no idea what he was talking about. Alec must eat him alive when politics comes up at family dinners. Had it been any other clueless person trying to bring me to God, yes, I probably would have wanted to smack them but Stevie B punctuated each of his conclusions by playing air drums/guitar and would wiggle his fingers in front of my face making spooky "woo-OOO-ooo" sounds when talking about God's mysticism. That may sound like a smackable offense, but it was actually very amusing.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 11:12 AM
That's pretty funny. I think I can still rest my case on the other guy. (Although the "People who have no idea what they are talking about but vote Republican because Jesus, dude, and Iraq" are, in my opinion, ruining the country.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 11:22 AM
to be fair, there isn't any evidence that Stephen Baldwin voted Republican, is there? There is a pretty strong argument that the religion points in the other direction.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 12:05 PM
Stevie B totally voted for Bush. He even shilled for him at the RNC. He told me all about how the Iraq war was the beginning of the end-times prophecy and that Bush was elected to office to bring about the Rapture and the reign of Jesus on Earth. (That part wasn't quite as funny as the air guitar.) Also, Mr. Threesome now thinks that September 11 was God's punishment for teh gays.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 12:33 PM
Becks, that link roxorzz.
Now [Mr. Threesome]'s venturing into politics in typical Baldwin fashion, by headlining a party with the Bush twins.
Would I play a murderer who utilized bad language but then went through an awesome metamorphosis and found redemption? Sure! But it would have to be really well written.
God made me cool so that the youth culture would look up to me
I laugh, and then I recall that Friends say to me, "Do your homework, and you'll see what Bush is doing with the environment and the war.... I tell them, "I have done my homework, and I don't agree. I pray for an hour and read the word of God for at least 30 minutes every day. And that experience has told me that I need to support the guy being led by God means we're being led by the guys who organized routine torture of often innocent prisoners etc., and then I cry.
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 12:39 PM
me
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-26-05 12:39 PM