Slol- Assuming it's accepted that Neil Young is better than any of the others individualy (I'm unfamiliar with Crosby and Nash's solo work, but the above strikes me as correct), who are you positing as Neil? Note that actually answering this question might lead me to repeat comment 3 from SCMT's link in 7.
Crosby was with the Byrds, Nash with the Hollies. (You're a young 'un, w/d, aren't you?) So technically, although J&B joined from "another group," this parallel doesn't quite work either. (I chose CSNY because I was going for a supergroup with some dignity, as opposed to e.g. the Traveling Wilburys or Cream.)
Which is all by way of not answering your question. So who's Young? Let's stipulate that Neil Young is not, or not primarily, "the best one", but rather the one with the most distinctive individual point of view, expressed with a defining nasal component.
I do know about that. I figured he wouldn't want to follow comments on the same post in two places. But I would settle for open comments at his home site.
Well, you may say I am a stick-in-the-mud, but I think jamming at this length is less justifiable than, e.g., Cream think. Also, I'm a little prudish about the wanton display of underaged flesh, in which Cream were traffickers.
I'm not unfamiliar with the Hollies or the Byrds, though if I had been asked an hour ago I wouldn't have remembered that they're Crosby's and Nash's respective original groups. I'm fairly sure I'm a sizable fraction of a year older than b-dub, unless he has had a birthday since the last time his age was mentioned in comments and didn't mention that birthday.
Last night, I was told that in Pittsburghese "downtown" is pronounced as if it was spelled "daun-ton." As in "Yinz wanna go daun-ton and get some burz? The Stillers are playing."
From a comment by Dsquared on (I think) Dead Men Left, it appears he's just changed his position in the Great British Labour Market from a Master of the Universe to an indigent supplicant. So, depending whether any prospective new employers Google for him or not, he'll either be spraying his stuff everydamnwhere or looking for some software that will retrospectively change his posts so they seem to come from Oliver Kamm.
Actually the latter seems like a really worthwhile project.
I thought Ted Barlow- he posts far too rarely on CT.
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:07 PM
Hear hear. This house is also in favor of breaking up the Beatles.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:09 PM
So you didn't think my comment to Healy's latest post was intelligent, is that it?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:12 PM
Wolfson, you're supposed to give up in despair after your first year of graduate school.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:16 PM
It's all about you, Ben.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:16 PM
It is all about me.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:25 PM
Huh. And you said this was tendentious.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:26 PM
What are you looking for, Timbot, justice and fairness?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:30 PM
As good Dems, I thought justice was fairness.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:32 PM
Although technically, I suppose CT is more like CSNY than the Beatles.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:38 PM
Slol- Assuming it's accepted that Neil Young is better than any of the others individualy (I'm unfamiliar with Crosby and Nash's solo work, but the above strikes me as correct), who are you positing as Neil? Note that actually answering this question might lead me to repeat comment 3 from SCMT's link in 7.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 3:47 PM
CSN did a lot of good stuff without Y.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:07 PM
though I don't disagree with 11, really.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:08 PM
Crosby was with the Byrds, Nash with the Hollies. (You're a young 'un, w/d, aren't you?) So technically, although J&B joined from "another group," this parallel doesn't quite work either. (I chose CSNY because I was going for a supergroup with some dignity, as opposed to e.g. the Traveling Wilburys or Cream.)
Which is all by way of not answering your question. So who's Young? Let's stipulate that Neil Young is not, or not primarily, "the best one", but rather the one with the most distinctive individual point of view, expressed with a defining nasal component.
In which case it's dsquared.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:11 PM
Y'all know about this, right? I say we get him to open comments and turn it into the Sunbelt Mineshaft (or are they in Australia again)?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:15 PM
'Y'all' s/b 'yinz'
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:16 PM
I do know about that. I figured he wouldn't want to follow comments on the same post in two places. But I would settle for open comments at his home site.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:17 PM
WTF? Cream rocks!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:24 PM
Well, then you should also note this. Which has comments.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:25 PM
I mean, there's no way Kieran could refuse to open comments if he knew we were going to take them over. (At least we repel trolls good.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:25 PM
I didn't say they didn't rock, I said they lacked dignity.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:25 PM
I know about that too, but he doesn't do the same posts there.
Re 20: we would be our respectful selves, since we already have this site for being our other selves.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:27 PM
Shall we assemble a petition? I'll sign. With my pseudonym, anyway.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:29 PM
I would like to become my quantum self.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:31 PM
Aren't you already your quantum self?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:33 PM
What's undignified about one of the best rock bassists evar, Ginger Baker, and that other guy rocking out for twenty minutes at a time?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 4:34 PM
rocking out for twenty minutes at a time
Well, you may say I am a stick-in-the-mud, but I think jamming at this length is less justifiable than, e.g., Cream think. Also, I'm a little prudish about the wanton display of underaged flesh, in which Cream were traffickers.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 5:03 PM
I believe Dawkins used quantum psychology as an example of "The Infected Mind" in Devil's Chaplain.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 5:07 PM
I don't think that Ginger Baker was much of a bassist.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 5:19 PM
I'm not unfamiliar with the Hollies or the Byrds, though if I had been asked an hour ago I wouldn't have remembered that they're Crosby's and Nash's respective original groups. I'm fairly sure I'm a sizable fraction of a year older than b-dub, unless he has had a birthday since the last time his age was mentioned in comments and didn't mention that birthday.
Last night, I was told that in Pittsburghese "downtown" is pronounced as if it was spelled "daun-ton." As in "Yinz wanna go daun-ton and get some burz? The Stillers are playing."
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 5:27 PM
John, I think you're parsing Wolfson incorrectly (not that his phrasing helped):
one of the best rock bassists evar [ i.e., Jack Bruce], Ginger Baker, and that other guy[i.e., Eric Clapton]
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 5:45 PM
I realized that mistake (deliberate or otherwise) was possible after posting the comment.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 5:59 PM
Oh heck, running down Cream's personnel I just realized I was blaming Cream for Blind Faith's bad taste. Sorry.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 6:02 PM
See, that's what the absence of Jack Bruce gets you.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 6:04 PM
Quite. Can you blame Clapton's support for Enoch Powell on absence of Jack Bruce?
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 6:06 PM
(it just has to be said) this blog & assorted commenters are awesome.
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 8:37 PM
John & Belle = Grace Slick & Paul Kantner?
Posted by ogmb | Link to this comment | 09-20-05 10:39 PM
RE 28
Googling for "infected mind" I found this:
How often has one had a wonderful, local wine in a little restaurant in Spain or Italy, and on bringing a bottle home been amazed at how thin and sour it tastes when served up proudly to one's friends?
I am pretty sure that hasn't happened to me.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 1:51 AM
John = Sebastian. Belle = Belle.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 5:28 AM
From a comment by Dsquared on (I think) Dead Men Left, it appears he's just changed his position in the Great British Labour Market from a Master of the Universe to an indigent supplicant. So, depending whether any prospective new employers Google for him or not, he'll either be spraying his stuff everydamnwhere or looking for some software that will retrospectively change his posts so they seem to come from Oliver Kamm.
Actually the latter seems like a really worthwhile project.
Posted by dave heasman | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 9:00 AM
Belle & Sebastian are named after a series of French kids books; no one with either of those names is in the band. So it kind of breaks the parallel.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 10:35 AM
And later it was an animated serial.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 10:40 AM
John=Jon Langford; Belle=Sally Timms.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 11:11 AM
Belle. Sebastien.
Posted by ogmb | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 1:05 PM
OK, then. John = Captain. Belle = Tennile.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-21-05 3:15 PM
"Can you blame Clapton's support for Enoch Powell on absence of Jack Bruce?"
Probably. Bruce was pretty left wing in those days and he has a wicked temper.
Posted by chris | Link to this comment | 09-22-05 4:57 AM
Wolfson: There did use to be a Belle in the band (Isobel Campbell)...
Posted by Matt McGrattan | Link to this comment | 09-22-05 7:39 AM
Belle = Kim Gordon
John = Thurston Moore
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 09-22-05 7:58 AM