So that was the ulterior motive. Never has a reconciliation been mechanically engineered with so much skill and so much sacrifice to one's own reputation.
Note: I'm not actually saying anyone damaged one's own reputation here. So don't sue me.
I, for one, am unhappy with your attempts to have a happy ending. In protest, I'm calling myself a radical gay islamofascist and banning myself. I'll spend the next week submitting complaints to Weiner's department head and endeavoring to out Standpipe. Also, I've contacted my attorney about suing Bob.
New theory: ogged is Deignan. He has engineered this whole thing to bring himself back with a bang. It's going well, but ogged has become too bold and is now talking to himself.
OK, what Paul did wasn't within the technical definition of IP spoofing, and maybe his contact with me wasn't as threatening as I took it to be at first.
would you be done with her? For the record, I'd much rather see you get all lawyerly on Hettle and leave BPhD out of this.
Why doesn't she just retract the comments, issue a correction and be done with this?
Because. You. Are. An. Unreasonable. Bully. Who. Is. Threatening. Her. With. A. Baseless. Legal. Case. While. Hinting. You. Will. Expose. Her. Identity.
I hope you realise that if you had played this whole thing only slightly differently, people would be wholly on your side because of the nasty and underhanded (but not actionable!) thing that Hettle did by emailing your supervisor. Thanks entirely to your own special genius, however, your credibility is lit up in flames like the towering inferno.
the problem is that if she runs the blog that publishes the material, knows of it, publishes similar stuff, etc. etc. then it becomes impossible to untangle BPhd from Hettle.
What she ought to do is settle individually. It would take a 20 min phone call, a couple letters of assurance/confidentiality and a couple posts.
I don't understand why, if she is (and should be) worried about this that she doesn't correct.
I'm very uncomfortable with anyone brokering an agreement here -- to the extent B. wants to agree to anything, any discussions should be with her, rather than with third-parties in a public place.
In her place, I would make absolutely no further statements on this. Negotiating with someone prepared to bring a frivolous lawsuit is a fool's game.
If you claim to have given these facts to a lawyer who has advised you that you have a viable cause of action for defamation against B. or Hettle, you are either a liar, or have found an incredible incompetent.
It's pretty easy to untangle, it seems to me. She didn't defame you.
To accuse her of defamation is really going to require you proving that her claim of ban evasion ('spoofing') caused you demonstrable harm. I don't think Hettle e-mailing your supervisor, who doesn't seem to have heard of blogs, counts as demonstrable harm; moreover, it seems less likely that Hettle's over-reaction can be pinned on her. More likely that he made his own stupid decision to e-mail your advisor.
I guess with all this hoopla, if I were BPhD, I'd be pretty uninclined to take your word that a private phone call would solve all this, ya know?
So. The Aeneid. I started reading it in high school, but set it aside when it started seeming like an Odyssey knock-off. What's the deal with all that? Worthwhile anyway?
I should say that I don't see anything wrong with discussing this, nor with discussing it with Paul -- it's the taking positions on what B. should to to resolve it that I find unsavory. If ogged wants the whole discussion to stop, of course, I'm okay with that.
70: If RateMyProfessor is any indication, there are some serious violations just waiting to happen in universities across the land. I looked up my old school, and some of the profs rated as hot were at least 55. One was probably 70 at the time of the rating, and is now actually dead.
"Homeric age" and "Hellenistic" are non-intersecting, Michael.
Pwnd.
Actually, I knew this, but figured there's be 150 comments by the time I could google the right answer, and I assumed any reasonably well educated person would understand what I was trying to communicate.
I do find that I'm looking for a novelistic resolution here, like FL. I want this to resolve with an event of some sort, and of course it won't, it'll just trail off into nothingness.
I should know this about the Illiad, and Ancient Greece generally -- what does a tripod look like, beyond the inherent three-leggedness, and what exactly do you do with one other than win it or donate it to a temple?
When it comes to desensitizing people to violence, nothing beats Homer's poetry.
I disagree, actually. I think the violence is awfully moving, especially when it happens to a hero with a reasonably developed personality. But of course, you have to be a feeling person to be moved in this way, by the horror of the transformation of men into things. (Yes, I know that's a crib from, I think, Simone de Beauvoir, and I don't feel like googling the citation.)
When it comes to desensitizing people to violence, nothing beats Homer's poetry. Not even action movies.
I disagree! The Iliad usually represents the dying in a good light; "the heroic suns of Thesoloniusious, who raced strong mares in the summer of their native country of Ioniciousness..." There's a lesson there to celebrate life while you have it, but also that war, well, sucks.
Cala, he's frequently complained about long, in-jokey threads riddled with high school cafeteria–style one-liners. He feels it drives such as him away.
Because I experience a deeply felt, painful reaction to the violence in Homer, even on re-reading it n years after initially meeting it, it proves it's desensitizing?
I thought you guys thought Farber would be pissed because he never gets comments. And he blogged the Deignan stuff last month, anyway. (The Farber is prolific when he's blogging.)
125: Really? So it should be "high-school-cafeteria—style"? I assume you're right, but it seems unappealing.
But then, I insist on putting commas outside of quotes, even though I know that doing so is considered to be incorrect (unless you're in Britain). Computer programming has screwed up my brain.
slol, that depends on whether or not you think 122 is a real argument, or a weak parody of the "the fact that you do not agree proves I'm right" style of arguing in the blogosphere.
I can see how people could be moved by The Iliad, but I was not. This is probably because it all seemed pretty meaningless to me.
It did lead me to wonder if being desenstized to violence would make one more or less likely to be violent. The assumption, as I understand it, is that being desensitized is bad because people sensitive to violence would be more likely to try to prevent it.
But aren't people who find glory and honor in violence sensitive to it?
That's probably not expressed very well, but it is serious.
141: I like Farber's blog. But I don't understand the Read the Rest score. It confuses me; I can't figure out if it's being used ironically or not, and sometimes it's blank, and I can't figure out why someone would link to something that wasn't worth Reading the Rest Of.
ben, depending on how long the sentence is, you may be ahead of me. I've been in the library for 5 hours, 10 minutes right now and have written exactly 174 words.
Well, right; people who enjoy violence are clearly in a literal sense sensitive to it. But I was thinking of a colloquial sense of "sensitive", as in e.g. "Sensitive New-Age Guy". (Does anyone say that anymore? No. Bad example.)
The funny thing about Farber's comments about the comments here is that, if you go to the archives, you can find him complaining about the amount of comments here back during the days when 45 comments could be considered the motherlode.
I think the general sense of 'desensitized' is 'think the violence (sex, whatever) is no big deal'. The people delighting in violence are desensitized to it because they don't really understand that violence is a big deal; you know, it's fun. For kids!
slol, I don't think that was eb's point. Someone who really thinks that there's honor and glory in violent acts probably isn't completely inured to it, but isn't sensitive just at the level of a bare sensing, either; rather, such a person will (we think) have a sense that violent actions are weighty and important.
Yes, Wolfson (in 162) says it better than I did. So to complain about senseless violence or the desensitizing effects of violence in movies is not always to say that there should be less violence; it could also mean simply that the violence we do have should be more meaningful.
Reading the reviews of some of my old professors is amusing.
a real jerk, but the class was easy.
...
I went to this guy's office hours a couple of times, but walked away both times. He was in his office talking to other professors about how "****ing stupid" the South is and "****ing Repub. ****s" and how "****ing stupid" LSU students are. What a jerk. His contempt for everyone but himself and his extreme left buddies is obvious in class, too.
This has to be my favorite:
Regularly teaches courses on former Nazis... Will fail you based on attendance even though this is against university policy. Basically, his classes are like being in a dictatorial forum.
Oh look, the comment window remembers me! I feel all warm and fuzzy. It's so nice to be back.
It's also really nice of all of you to refrain from pointing out to Ogged that while he and I were broken up, I slept with all of you, so really, which means you all already have your own naked pictures.
168: I also thing that it's sometimes because he is pointing out how damn stupid it is, and you really shouldn't pollute your mind by reading any more of it. He has read it so you don't have to.
--I'm not sure why no one is blogging about Serenity. Its probably because it takes all the faults of science fiction, and magnifies them so much that the sci-fi friendly industry, led by the Lucas/Spielberg cabal, is hoping that we'll all ignore it. And I say this as someone who is typically a fan of science fiction: I have the first three seasons of Buffy on DVD.--
Ogged, you are suck a fucking nerd. Seriously, I can just picture you slurping spit around your retainer, as you sit alone in your mom's basement, rolling up characters for your new roleplaying campaign that combines anime, vampires, and Classic Trek slash. The boys (and they are all boys, ogged) will sure love this one!
I have all seven seasons of Buffy on DVD. So, nyah.
And Apostropher, really, it's very sweet of you to pretend, but as you can see I've converted Ogged to my way of thinking and he's not in the least jealous.
What can I say, Thucydides? It's not you, it's me. I just, something...something's wrong with me. I need some space to figure out what I really need out of a relationship, and it's not fair to you to ask you to wait around. You understand, right baby?
It is good to have you back, ogged, however briefly. Why don't you just show up on Friday (here, Th) Fundays, if you don't want the thing taking over your life? Or not, obviously.
I should probably say, "My hatred of this thread serves as a proxy for Gary Farber's." I don't mean to imply I'm hating this thread instead of hating Gary Farber.
Wait, I read the "typo" in 189 as a clever attempt to piss off a hypothetical Farber who's reading this thread, not a Freudian slip or any kind of suggestion.
Nonsense, you just have to do your ETs. It's great, you can do your ET excercises all day and nobody even knows. If anyone wants to borrow my brochure for Phase I, I can do that, but you'll have to send away for the rest.
I didn't "get" 233. I was however, getting ready to make a comment about required 3rd parties or extraordinary limberness which now seems ill advised. So, do tell.
Also, have I mentioned that I earned my living as a proofreader and/or editor for a number of years? I just want everybody to be clear on that, so they can really savor every last frickin' one of the inordinate number of typos I produce here.
Aw, that's sweet.
No, really.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:26 PM
[redacted]
Posted by [redacted] | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:27 PM
Also, arabs-- not so bad!
Posted by Ariel Sharon | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:28 PM
Oh, good. That whole spat seemed so unfortunate.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:29 PM
So that was the ulterior motive. Never has a reconciliation been mechanically engineered with so much skill and so much sacrifice to one's own reputation.
Note: I'm not actually saying anyone damaged one's own reputation here. So don't sue me.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:29 PM
I'll be posting naked pictures of her
Ogged, these won't just be Bitch's head superimposed on my sexy, sexy body, will they?
Welcome back to the both of yez.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:29 PM
That one too.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:29 PM
Yeah, Ariel's totally right about that. PS Larry Summers really *is* kind of an ass. I see that now.
Posted by Ben H from the bandarlog | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:29 PM
Yay!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:31 PM
Cool. (Though I thought, briefly, it would be funny if you sued her for libelling you as a torturer, but then I thought how that wouldn't be funny.)
Will there be a Very Special Reunion Episode?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:32 PM
a-and I mean this in as non-o-earnest a way as possible:
Awww, that's nice.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:32 PM
Seriously, you know what I love? Strippers.
Posted by Osama | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:32 PM
That does my heart some good.
Told you it was OK to e-mail her (as in a favor).
Posted by Paul Deignan | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:39 PM
Ok, use of "e-mail" instead of "email" checks out with the real PD, leaving me more confused than ever before.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:41 PM
I don't even understand what 13 means.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:42 PM
Good.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:43 PM
If it is someone imitating PD, they are so getting sued.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:43 PM
ogged asked PD for advice before talking to BPhD?
New topic: Should I start a blog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:45 PM
Shouldn't ogged be able to figure it out from the IP?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:46 PM
No, that's the real PD. He's alluding to something from our correspondence.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:46 PM
So ogged,
Now that you are a talking basis, what's the deal with her?
Why doesn't she just retract the comments, issue a correction and be done with this?
Posted by Paul Deignan | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:46 PM
Great. Ossa on Pelion.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:48 PM
Let's not go over that in comments, Paul. You are, as ever, free to email me.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:48 PM
I, for one, am unhappy with your attempts to have a happy ending. In protest, I'm calling myself a radical gay islamofascist and banning myself. I'll spend the next week submitting complaints to Weiner's department head and endeavoring to out Standpipe. Also, I've contacted my attorney about suing Bob.
Good Day, sirs.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:49 PM
New theory: ogged is Deignan. He has engineered this whole thing to bring himself back with a bang. It's going well, but ogged has become too bold and is now talking to himself.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:50 PM
Paul, in all seriousness--
if she simply said
would you be done with her? For the record, I'd much rather see you get all lawyerly on Hettle and leave BPhD out of this.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:51 PM
But Ogged is right. Let's leave this out of comments.
(What readers don't know is that the three of us go out drinking all the time. Party city!)
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:52 PM
Paul looks great in a sundress.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:53 PM
I really can't tell if 21 is earnest or not.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:53 PM
Ossa on Pelion.
I thought Pelion got stuck on top of Ossa.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:53 PM
New topic: Should I start a blog?
I think recent events have shown that the answer to that question is always "Yes".
But seriously, yeah, do it. It's nice to have your own little bit of online real estate.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:53 PM
Now that you are a talking basis ...
... you can make a talking basis point.
Why doesn't she just retract the comments, issue a correction and be done with this?
Because. You. Are. An. Unreasonable. Bully. Who. Is. Threatening. Her. With. A. Baseless. Legal. Case. While. Hinting. You. Will. Expose. Her. Identity.
I hope you realise that if you had played this whole thing only slightly differently, people would be wholly on your side because of the nasty and underhanded (but not actionable!) thing that Hettle did by emailing your supervisor. Thanks entirely to your own special genius, however, your credibility is lit up in flames like the towering inferno.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:55 PM
So would I,
the problem is that if she runs the blog that publishes the material, knows of it, publishes similar stuff, etc. etc. then it becomes impossible to untangle BPhd from Hettle.
What she ought to do is settle individually. It would take a 20 min phone call, a couple letters of assurance/confidentiality and a couple posts.
I don't understand why, if she is (and should be) worried about this that she doesn't correct.
Posted by Paul Deignan | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:55 PM
Slol: I think the order is reversed in Virgil and Homer. See.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:56 PM
I'm very uncomfortable with anyone brokering an agreement here -- to the extent B. wants to agree to anything, any discussions should be with her, rather than with third-parties in a public place.
In her place, I would make absolutely no further statements on this. Negotiating with someone prepared to bring a frivolous lawsuit is a fool's game.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:56 PM
argle,
It's stuff like that that foul things up for everyone.
Maybe you should cool it with the invective while we discuss, OK?
Posted by Paul Deignan | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:57 PM
It was earnest. Cripes.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:57 PM
Let's all read and take to heart comment 23, and devote this and all other comment threads to innocent merriment, cock jokes, and the classics.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:58 PM
I think the order is reversed in Virgil and Homer.
Well I'll be. But then, who worries about which mountain goes on top of the other?
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:59 PM
I for one agree with Paul:
It's stuff like that that foul things up for everyone.
But I also agree that this isn't the place to talk about this, as per LB's 35.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:59 PM
Yes, once again: not in the comments, folks.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:59 PM
Lizard,
What I suggested to ogged was just to e-mail her and have her e-mail me.
Obviously, with this nonsense of "cyberstalking" I'd be dopey to initiate the conversation directly.
Posted by Paul Deignan | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:59 PM
And Paul?
If you claim to have given these facts to a lawyer who has advised you that you have a viable cause of action for defamation against B. or Hettle, you are either a liar, or have found an incredible incompetent.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 2:59 PM
I don't understand why, if she is (and should be) worried about this that she doesn't correct.
More baseless assertions interpretable as threats of legal action. And you wonder why, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:00 PM
argle, LB, and PD are banned!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:01 PM
OK Ogged, sorry.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:01 PM
It's pretty easy to untangle, it seems to me. She didn't defame you.
To accuse her of defamation is really going to require you proving that her claim of ban evasion ('spoofing') caused you demonstrable harm. I don't think Hettle e-mailing your supervisor, who doesn't seem to have heard of blogs, counts as demonstrable harm; moreover, it seems less likely that Hettle's over-reaction can be pinned on her. More likely that he made his own stupid decision to e-mail your advisor.
I guess with all this hoopla, if I were BPhD, I'd be pretty uninclined to take your word that a private phone call would solve all this, ya know?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:01 PM
Now that's funny.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:01 PM
Try it and I'll spoof my IP address. (After engaging in a program of research to figure out what that entails.)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:02 PM
Can't we all get along?
Posted by Rodney King | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:02 PM
Cala is also banned!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:02 PM
Cala should start a blog.
Virgil got Homer wrong.
Josh Marshall is still being coy, though slightly less so.
Rate My Professors delights / scares me now that I know all about it.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:02 PM
Ben, it rules that PD comments here. No banning of Paul!
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:03 PM
I'm done. Didn't catch those last few comments (38,40,41,etc) before posting in 44.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:04 PM
It is cool. Like having some form of vaguely demented mascot.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:04 PM
You weren't kidding when you said "folk hero," huh, Labs?
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:04 PM
You know what? I like kosher food.
Posted by Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:05 PM
Rodney King is banned!
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:05 PM
The classics...yes.
So. The Aeneid. I started reading it in high school, but set it aside when it started seeming like an Odyssey knock-off. What's the deal with all that? Worthwhile anyway?
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:05 PM
I should say that I don't see anything wrong with discussing this, nor with discussing it with Paul -- it's the taking positions on what B. should to to resolve it that I find unsavory. If ogged wants the whole discussion to stop, of course, I'm okay with that.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:06 PM
Yeah, sorry, ogged, I didn't preview before posting.
I don't know how those who keep kosher do without the occasional bagel with egg and cheese and bacon. Mmm. Bacon.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:06 PM
wow...59 to 38. That was a lot of comments quickly.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:06 PM
The Aeneid is the Shostakovich's Fifth Symphony of Latin poetry.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:06 PM
I read a lot of that stuff when I was maybe 12 and thought it was really cool. Took Latin and stuff, read some Virgil.
Revisited Homer recently and thought, jeebus, but there's a lot of slaying in this. I'm finding it hard to decide what I might have liked about it.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:07 PM
apo, are my 30 minutes up yet?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:07 PM
On the other hand, it's the only place to get the straight skinny on the Trojan Horse.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:07 PM
Rodney King is banned!
I think he's been discriminated against enough already.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:07 PM
Discussions of Homer are not banned, but discussions of an author of the same name are.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:07 PM
I've always thought Shostakovich was the Odysseus of 20th century Russian composers.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:08 PM
All in all, I'd say this topic is now officially played.
So, most blatant 1/2 + 7 violation evar?
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:08 PM
Rodney King is a band.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:09 PM
Little known fact: Circe was the Hildegard von Bingen of demigoddesses.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:09 PM
Pretty handsome for 87.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:09 PM
How is that little known?
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:10 PM
For you, Cala, I'll grant endless extensions. In fact, I'm extending just thinking about it.
Guess I'm a conservative after all.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:10 PM
70: If RateMyProfessor is any indication, there are some serious violations just waiting to happen in universities across the land. I looked up my old school, and some of the profs rated as hot were at least 55. One was probably 70 at the time of the rating, and is now actually dead.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:10 PM
Rodney King may well be the fifth symphony of ancient Greek literature.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:10 PM
Also, only 5 things happen in The Iliad:
1. People whine and sulk.
2. The gods whine and sulk.
3. People hack up cattle.
4. People hack up each other.
5. People play games.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:10 PM
74 comments in under 45 minutes.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:11 PM
But Odysseus was the Beethoven of the Homeric age Hellenistic heros!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:11 PM
6. Boats are listed.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:11 PM
Pretty handsome for 87 is like pretty handsome for ewwwwwwww.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:11 PM
1. People whine and sulk.
2. The gods whine and sulk.
3. People hack up cattle.
4. People hack up each other.
5. People play games.
I think that's Blogging, isn't it?
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:12 PM
"Homeric age" and "Hellenistic" are non-intersecting, Michael.
Pwnd.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:12 PM
We need 19 comments in the next 15 minutes to get to 100 in less than an hour.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:12 PM
Actually, I think the boat-listing is one of the best parts.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:12 PM
Well, picture him dating your 90 yr. old widowed grandma. In that context, you could say handsome, right?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:12 PM
Re: 87, no.
Posted by Sam K | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:13 PM
78.
There's also 6. Mourning for the deaths of those just hacked up. That's, to me, one of the more interesting parts.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:13 PM
There's also 6. Mourning for the deaths of those just hacked up.
If the other 5 are blogging, then that one is this actual post and thread.
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:14 PM
tick tock, tick tock.
Posted by Sam K | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:14 PM
The taking of armor and the grabbing of knees play important roles.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:14 PM
"Homeric age" and "Hellenistic" are non-intersecting, Michael.
Pwnd.
Actually, I knew this, but figured there's be 150 comments by the time I could google the right answer, and I assumed any reasonably well educated person would understand what I was trying to communicate.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:14 PM
I particularly enjoyed finding out how much blood came out of which opening in each dying person.
When it comes to desensitizing people to violence, nothing beats Homer's poetry. Not even action movies.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:15 PM
I do find that I'm looking for a novelistic resolution here, like FL. I want this to resolve with an event of some sort, and of course it won't, it'll just trail off into nothingness.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:15 PM
87: Maybe if I were ninety. With cataracts. ewwww.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:15 PM
I assumed any reasonably well educated person would understand what I was trying to communicate.
You wanted to communicate your lack of knowledge about Ancient Greece?
Posted by argle | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:15 PM
You could almost certainly get away with saying Achaean, and that alliterates with age.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:15 PM
Gary Farber will be so pissed off by this thread if he ever gets here.
Just hella pissed.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:16 PM
100!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:16 PM
Fie on Farber.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:16 PM
95: I think the most you can hope for is actually the occasion of this post.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:16 PM
Yes!
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:17 PM
I should know this about the Illiad, and Ancient Greece generally -- what does a tripod look like, beyond the inherent three-leggedness, and what exactly do you do with one other than win it or donate it to a temple?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:17 PM
95- Isn't it novelistic if Ogged and B are the main characters?
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:17 PM
89: isn't that what the games were?
92: I am including that as part of the hacking process.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:17 PM
I'm amazed to see that ogged has not only posted but also replied in comments. Yay!
Posted by bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:17 PM
Ha! 2 comments a minute for fifty minutes!
102: or maybe an elderly-person orgy. That would be a neat resolution. Apo's already provided the pretext that'll drive the plot shift.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:18 PM
Why will Farber be pissed? (I didn't see a pejorative sci-fi reference.)
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:18 PM
True -- demoting PD to narrative device (or deus ex machina if one wanted to be complimentary).
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:18 PM
When it comes to desensitizing people to violence, nothing beats Homer's poetry.
I disagree, actually. I think the violence is awfully moving, especially when it happens to a hero with a reasonably developed personality. But of course, you have to be a feeling person to be moved in this way, by the horror of the transformation of men into things. (Yes, I know that's a crib from, I think, Simone de Beauvoir, and I don't feel like googling the citation.)
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:19 PM
106, no, you grab the knees in the process of pleading for mercy. Sometimes it works, too, so you can't completely subsume it into hacking.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:19 PM
When it comes to desensitizing people to violence, nothing beats Homer's poetry. Not even action movies.
I disagree! The Iliad usually represents the dying in a good light; "the heroic suns of Thesoloniusious, who raced strong mares in the summer of their native country of Ioniciousness..." There's a lesson there to celebrate life while you have it, but also that war, well, sucks.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:20 PM
Cala, he's frequently complained about long, in-jokey threads riddled with high school cafeteria–style one-liners. He feels it drives such as him away.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:20 PM
Oh, how embarassing: Simone Weil.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:21 PM
I think the violence is awfully moving, especially when it happens to a hero with a reasonably developed personality.
I did not find any of the heroes to have reasonably developed personalities.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:21 PM
97. I am the epitome of the modern man. I enjoy sharing not so much what I know, but what I do not know.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:21 PM
r
Also embarrassing.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:21 PM
or maybe an elderly-person orgy
Are you ever too old for an orgy?
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:22 PM
106. I could all the recounting of the noble characters of all those hacked down as little micro-mournings throughout the work.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:22 PM
Is it wrong that I find myself wanting to put parentheses into long strings of words joined (or maybe separated...) by hyphens?
Like, I think of 114 as (high-school-cafeteria)-style.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:23 PM
These defenses of The Iliad only prove how successful the desensitizing has been.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:23 PM
"could" for "took" is your most adventurous misspelling yet, Michael.
Transgressive and thrilling! I give it an "A".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:24 PM
I think I agree with 120 if the implicit verb is something like what I think it is.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:24 PM
121. That's what the en dash is for.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:25 PM
Cripes! We're slowing down!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:26 PM
What's wrong with my brain?
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:26 PM
Because I experience a deeply felt, painful reaction to the violence in Homer, even on re-reading it n years after initially meeting it, it proves it's desensitizing?
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:27 PM
I think we need to start DateMyProfessor.com.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:28 PM
114: Oh. Is Illiad in-jokey?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:28 PM
Actually, I took "could" for "count" not "took".
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:28 PM
Is Troy really windy? Anybody ever been there?
Posted by bill | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:28 PM
Spelled that way it is.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:28 PM
133 to 130.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:29 PM
License to Illiad
Illiad in Philly
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:29 PM
I thought you guys thought Farber would be pissed because he never gets comments. And he blogged the Deignan stuff last month, anyway. (The Farber is prolific when he's blogging.)
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:30 PM
125: Really? So it should be "high-school-cafeteria—style"? I assume you're right, but it seems unappealing.
But then, I insist on putting commas outside of quotes, even though I know that doing so is considered to be incorrect (unless you're in Britain). Computer programming has screwed up my brain.
Posted by tom | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:30 PM
unless you're in Britain
Or a linguist.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:31 PM
"count" is the correct, originalist translation
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:32 PM
No! It should be "high school cafeteria–style". That is what the en dash is for. As opposed to "cafeteria(hyphen)style".
I completely agree with you re: punctuation and quotation marks (see above for an instance), but for the same reason, I think.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:32 PM
(The Farber is prolific when he's blogging.)
You know, I think that's part of the reason he doesn't get comments - when the site's active at all, posts just slide down the page too fast.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:32 PM
For the first time ever, I qualify as an originalist scholar.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:33 PM
sorry to do that to you
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:34 PM
slol, that depends on whether or not you think 122 is a real argument, or a weak parody of the "the fact that you do not agree proves I'm right" style of arguing in the blogosphere.
I can see how people could be moved by The Iliad, but I was not. This is probably because it all seemed pretty meaningless to me.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:34 PM
Anyway, no one's explained tripods to me. I could google, but this is easier.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:35 PM
whether or not you think 122 is a real argument
This is a civil blog, and an earnest one. Of course I took your broken-back weak argument seriously.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:36 PM
I think you put a tripod on top of a fire, and heat the sweet gray goo inside.
Incidentally, doesn't ogged owe us a scandalous picture of profgrrrrl?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:37 PM
Also they're something with three legs awarded as a prize in the aforementioned games.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:38 PM
She already knew that.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:39 PM
It did lead me to wonder if being desenstized to violence would make one more or less likely to be violent. The assumption, as I understand it, is that being desensitized is bad because people sensitive to violence would be more likely to try to prevent it.
But aren't people who find glory and honor in violence sensitive to it?
That's probably not expressed very well, but it is serious.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:39 PM
She already knew that.
Yes, it was a weak attempt, I grant.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:40 PM
Still at 2 comments per minute, aren't we?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:41 PM
Good news, people.
I just wrote another sentence for my presentation.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:41 PM
141: I like Farber's blog. But I don't understand the Read the Rest score. It confuses me; I can't figure out if it's being used ironically or not, and sometimes it's blank, and I can't figure out why someone would link to something that wasn't worth Reading the Rest Of.
Tis a cool blog, though, when he's writing.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:41 PM
WHAT. THE. HELL!
Dad goes away to class and everything falls apart?
Yeeesh.
I'm going to turn around and come back tomorrow and I want this straightened out by then.
Oh, and somebody (eb?) asked about Iowa and all I'll say is they have some very HOT women there, and I know some jokes, too, but now is not the time.
Posted by Tripp | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:42 PM
ben, depending on how long the sentence is, you may be ahead of me. I've been in the library for 5 hours, 10 minutes right now and have written exactly 174 words.
Posted by silvana | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:43 PM
Well, right; people who enjoy violence are clearly in a literal sense sensitive to it. But I was thinking of a colloquial sense of "sensitive", as in e.g. "Sensitive New-Age Guy". (Does anyone say that anymore? No. Bad example.)
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:43 PM
Prof. Owens of the UMTC Philosophy department is rated hot. There's a little chili pepper next to his name and everything. Ridiculous.
Posted by L. | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:45 PM
The funny thing about Farber's comments about the comments here is that, if you go to the archives, you can find him complaining about the amount of comments here back during the days when 45 comments could be considered the motherlode.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:45 PM
I think the general sense of 'desensitized' is 'think the violence (sex, whatever) is no big deal'. The people delighting in violence are desensitized to it because they don't really understand that violence is a big deal; you know, it's fun. For kids!
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:45 PM
But I don't understand the Read the Rest score.
That seems pretty simple -- he's either quoted all of the good bits or there's more stuff to read at the link that he didn't quote.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:46 PM
slol, I don't think that was eb's point. Someone who really thinks that there's honor and glory in violent acts probably isn't completely inured to it, but isn't sensitive just at the level of a bare sensing, either; rather, such a person will (we think) have a sense that violent actions are weighty and important.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:47 PM
From "Michael's girlfriend"'s list, in the link eb produced: 27. no big butts. And yet!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:50 PM
Michael has a woman's ass. Otherwise, why would it give me needs?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:52 PM
Yes, Wolfson (in 162) says it better than I did. So to complain about senseless violence or the desensitizing effects of violence in movies is not always to say that there should be less violence; it could also mean simply that the violence we do have should be more meaningful.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:56 PM
Reading the reviews of some of my old professors is amusing.
a real jerk, but the class was easy.
...
I went to this guy's office hours a couple of times, but walked away both times. He was in his office talking to other professors about how "****ing stupid" the South is and "****ing Repub. ****s" and how "****ing stupid" LSU students are. What a jerk. His contempt for everyone but himself and his extreme left buddies is obvious in class, too.
This has to be my favorite:
Regularly teaches courses on former Nazis... Will fail you based on attendance even though this is against university policy. Basically, his classes are like being in a dictatorial forum.
The first sentence refers to Heidegger.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:57 PM
Jesus Christ, I go to teach my class and it's up to 164?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:57 PM
LB: but why link to something if it's only a 1 out of 5?
(I'm sure I'm the only person on the internets to whom this has seemed weird.)
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:57 PM
I see I'll have to watch myself around Chopper.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:58 PM
Oh look, the comment window remembers me! I feel all warm and fuzzy. It's so nice to be back.
It's also really nice of all of you to refrain from pointing out to Ogged that while he and I were broken up, I slept with all of you, so really, which means you all already have your own naked pictures.
Seriously, I really appreciate your discretion.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:59 PM
Cala, the rest is only worth 1 out of 5. The good stuff was quoted.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:59 PM
I understand 1 out of 5 to mean that all the good stuff is in his excerpt so there's little reason to read the rest.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 3:59 PM
I slept with all of you
I feel so cheap.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:00 PM
Shhh, my husband reads this.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:00 PM
Hey, you didn't sleep with me, goddammit.
I'm gonna sue.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:01 PM
"you, which."
See? I even made an editing error first post out, just for Ben.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:01 PM
7 out of 5!
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:02 PM
Dr. B, you know how ogged is when he's jealous. Throws fits!
(I guess I'm just a loser that always clicks through anyway.)
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:02 PM
Ah, here's what I was looking for. We should all be glad he doesn't post "upwards of 60 to 80" times on busy days.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:05 PM
This is excellent. Since we all have naked pictures of b, we can compare, and pick our favorites. Who wants to post first?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:06 PM
B sez: "I feel all warm and fuzzy."
Which I would know if you'd slept with me. But no, I just have to infer it from your damn blog.
Grumble, grumble, grumble.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:06 PM
Design a comment to make Gary's head explode. Hints -
1. Write about something he's already addressed;
2. Write badly about it;
3. Write with little technical care;
4. Write something denigrating Sci-Fi guys.
I can't really think of anything else.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:11 PM
168: I also thing that it's sometimes because he is pointing out how damn stupid it is, and you really shouldn't pollute your mind by reading any more of it. He has read it so you don't have to.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:12 PM
Reference Azimov, Ghandi, and Isreal.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:12 PM
182: also, hints of anti-semitism.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:12 PM
Ogged's first podcast - "I Might Like You Better If We Slept Together."
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:14 PM
--I'm not sure why no one is blogging about Serenity. Its probably because it takes all the faults of science fiction, and magnifies them so much that the sci-fi friendly industry, led by the Lucas/Spielberg cabal, is hoping that we'll all ignore it. And I say this as someone who is typically a fan of science fiction: I have the first three seasons of Buffy on DVD.--
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:17 PM
Racial differences are genetic. I'm sorry. That's just the way it is.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:20 PM
Ogged, you are suck a fucking nerd. Seriously, I can just picture you slurping spit around your retainer, as you sit alone in your mom's basement, rolling up characters for your new roleplaying campaign that combines anime, vampires, and Classic Trek slash. The boys (and they are all boys, ogged) will sure love this one!
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:23 PM
52: Here it is, I think. Yay!
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:23 PM
Ooh, remember how angry he go when it was suggested that health restrictions be placed on foodstamp purchases? Do that again.
Sorry I'm late to this thread party.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:25 PM
Oh man, but Tolkien is teh fantasy.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:27 PM
Clearly, Tim's 182 barely scratched the surface of things that annoy Gary.
And spoiler alerts that don't actually spoil things! He hates those, because they desensitive people to spoiler alerts. Actually, I'm serious.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:27 PM
Spoiler Alert:
---
ogged is teh ghey.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:29 PM
Shit, this is probably 40 comments too late, but I think the image of Aeneas carrying Anchises with Ascanius in tow is moving.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:29 PM
Now, in non-annoying Gary/baiting ogged mode: welcome back, ogged. The place just isn't the same without you.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:30 PM
Shit, man. You can't post something like that without a spoiler alert.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:30 PM
Clearly this is not the place to express my inability to get emotionally involved in classical literature (I have the same problem with plays).
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:31 PM
Arma virumque cano.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:31 PM
I have all seven seasons of Buffy on DVD. So, nyah.
And Apostropher, really, it's very sweet of you to pretend, but as you can see I've converted Ogged to my way of thinking and he's not in the least jealous.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:31 PM
Thanks chopper, but I'm not sure I'm back, so much as taking a break from my hiatus.
Come to think of it, I've never seen Gary as mad about anything as he was about spoilers.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:32 PM
102!
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:32 PM
Speculating about someone's sexuality! Asimov's sexuality!
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:32 PM
What can I say, Thucydides? It's not you, it's me. I just, something...something's wrong with me. I need some space to figure out what I really need out of a relationship, and it's not fair to you to ask you to wait around. You understand, right baby?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:33 PM
What about Dido, eb? If not when she's giving herself the hari-kari special, at least when she's backing up Eminem?
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:34 PM
Clarke we know about, Heinlein dabbled...
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:35 PM
Wait, Farber has a blog?
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:35 PM
I actually haven't read any of the Greek or Roman histories. I suspect that I'd like them.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:35 PM
Herodotus is lots of fun.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:36 PM
207 is pwnage.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:37 PM
ATM.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:37 PM
Thanks for screwing up my joke, smasher.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:38 PM
An "ATM" joke? Seriously, Smasher, thanks for screwing that up.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:39 PM
It is good to have you back, ogged, however briefly. Why don't you just show up on Friday (here, Th) Fundays, if you don't want the thing taking over your life? Or not, obviously.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:40 PM
Hmm, you may be right, Armsmasher. I'd forgotten about that.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:41 PM
You know, I think we ought to welcome Ogged and bphd back by sending them a nice fruit basket.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:41 PM
I'm starting to feel loved, y'all. You better stop.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:42 PM
Not before I get mine!! Or I'll sue!
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:42 PM
Seriously ogged, the american gay lesbian transgender blogging society (AGLTBS) made us promise we would stop doing that.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:43 PM
Cala, you want a fruit basket? Have a fruit basket. (Note: same link.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 4:45 PM
What lovely loveliness is in this thread! I have missed it! I hateth you, demanding partner! You did not really need that memo written today!
Now, if only PD will become a regular poster, and BPhD returns to her former glory, the millenium of unfoggeddom shall be upon us!
But where is Standpipe?
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 5:21 PM
I missed all the fun. I'm the Charlie Brown of unfogged.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 5:41 PM
Not just you. I feel like MW.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 5:45 PM
Psst... text... want to try to kick the football?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 5:53 PM
I marvel that nobody has pointed out Chopper's
Freudian sliptypo in 189.Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 5:58 PM
Freudian sliptyposubliminal suggestion
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:00 PM
Well, I'm hating this thread in lieu of Gary Farber.
Posted by Isle of Toads | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:07 PM
I should probably say, "My hatred of this thread serves as a proxy for Gary Farber's." I don't mean to imply I'm hating this thread instead of hating Gary Farber.
Posted by Isle of Toads | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:09 PM
I am, though.
(Actually I'm not. I love this thread. And Gary.)
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:12 PM
text, I am here! Helloooo! It sucks to be shot from a cannon and to land so far away from the Internet.
Also, I am very happy to produce, in this here comment, my very first words addressed to bitchphd. Helloooo!
Next we should talk about frites.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:25 PM
I completely forgot last night, darn it.
Deignan and the Angry Bitch
ash
['Choreography by Fontana Labs.']
Posted by ash | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:39 PM
Wait, I read the "typo" in 189 as a clever attempt to piss off a hypothetical Farber who's reading this thread, not a Freudian slip or any kind of suggestion.
Mmm, frites.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:51 PM
Oh please tell me, Chopper, how exactly does one suck a fuck? [I'm all ears.]
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 6:59 PM
I can tell you that ears aren't going to get it done.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 7:04 PM
It's that very sort of inside-the-box thinking that's kept the TiVo running, Ogged.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 7:11 PM
Nonsense, you just have to do your ETs. It's great, you can do your ET excercises all day and nobody even knows. If anyone wants to borrow my brochure for Phase I, I can do that, but you'll have to send away for the rest.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 7:13 PM
If I were inside the box, apo, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 7:13 PM
It's true. Inside a box, it's too dark to
readtype.Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 7:43 PM
So, really, did nobody get 233 or is it more fun to ignore the reference and make me look like a sexual incompetent for asking?
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:14 PM
Leave town for 48 hours, and the world changes. And dear whomever, #8 was fricking hilarious.
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:16 PM
On the contrary, it makes you look overqualified.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:17 PM
Huh.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:19 PM
I didn't "get" 233. I was however, getting ready to make a comment about required 3rd parties or extraordinary limberness which now seems ill advised. So, do tell.
Also, have I mentioned that I earned my living as a proofreader and/or editor for a number of years? I just want everybody to be clear on that, so they can really savor every last frickin' one of the inordinate number of typos I produce here.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:21 PM
Proofreading is about 80% of my current job. The other 20% is sucking a fucking nerd.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:23 PM
Yeah, OK, I could have followed the link. I really should get around to seeing that movie one of these days.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:23 PM
Becks, I got 233.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:24 PM
I just didn't respond in kind because I was too busy thinking about Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:25 PM
I didn't, and I've seen the movie twice.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:25 PM
You need a secretary, Ben.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:26 PM
I'm a good proofreader, when it's greater than 30% of my job on a daily basis--I have to get into a zone.
Now all those years buy me is the exceptional misery of catching every damn typo in ads and newspapers.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:27 PM
I did not get it + I should have = SHAME.
No one's asked me about the brochure. I may not have mentioned that it's quite glossy.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:27 PM
You think so, apostropher? I'm not sure. Maybe I should watch a movie about one to see what it's like.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-10-05 8:28 PM
Did you give it an acqueous coat or just a spot varnish, SB?
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