I'm down. And if you really want to bond, we should change our weekend football game to the Sunday and we can play it rather than watch it. It'll all be very masculine.
Watch football, I said. I'm old, man, I can't be running around. Seriously, I'd throw the ball around, but I don't want to get all sweaty and then hop on some conveyance to NY.
dammit... this is what i get for moving away from DC. either way, we (by we I mean those of us who are desperate enough to live vicariously through a pseudonimous blog..) expect a full report of what was drunk, where it was drunk, and who drank it. even if you wallflowers refuse to bring cameras...
It's so totally appropriate that the Mine Shaft is re-opening as a Chinese restaurant, because "ATM" is to unfogged comments as "in bed" is to fortune cookie fortunes, no?
Not the 16th, for me, but of the other nights any one is as good as the other. For locations, if we can stay fairly close to any stop on the 4, 5, or 6, I'm happy(best for me is the Grand Central area, but that seems to be disfavored by consensus.)
Eh, we love you LB, but there's just not much interesting around Grand Central. I vote for SoHo, but that's just me being selfish. Anywhere's fine, though. The East Village has loads of fun, cheapish, hippish places, for example.
If it's a non-Thursday weekday, Double Happiness (Mott and...uh...Broome?) is lovely. Music at just the right volume, lots of fun little passageways and nooks, good drinks.
Hey, DC folks, speak up about the lurkers, because I'm not clear on where you guys do your football watching, and don't feel comfortable telling everyone to join us without knowing, though of course that would be best.
Another really nice place downtown -- one of the best beer bars in the city IMO, and the only member of the set that is also in Manhattan -- is Zum Schneider on Ave. C and 7th St. Great place for hanging out too though it gets very crowded Friday evenings.
Since y'all are talking about places, just be sure that the place serves some food, because there's always someone who's hungry, and that someone is usually me.
The usual suspects do a good bit of football watching at my and Sausagely's place, and I'd be more than happy to make breakfast tacos for whoever shows up. But a headcount would be useful for that, which I suppose compromises lurker status.
If that's too complicated my vote is for Townhouse Tavern, on 17th and R.
ac and Jeremy, how strongly do you disfavor your disfavored days? And is there anyone who just can't make the 12th, or 14th, or 15th, who could break the tie?
Maybe the Tavern is best then, for DC, so you don't have to worry about a headcount, and people who don't know until the last minute don't have to feel bad about dropping in.
Well my general hunch is that Wednesday is right out but Friday is probably doable. Zum Schneider serves limited food, mostly sausage IIRC. Good if you like sausage, which I'm given to understand some people do not. Here is a link to their menu -- it calls itself a "Sommerkarte" so winter menu may be diff, but that should give you an idea.
Was that one of those implicit jokes of which you and Wolfson seem so full? Also, can't you steal or whip up some code that allows for instant run-off voting and just use that to settle the day/place/time/sexual act issues?
Was what an implicit joke? Anyway, it seems we really have narrowed it down to Monday, at least among the people who have commented so far. I'm trying to get in touch with Labs, but he seems out of computer range at the moment. Obviously, if Labs can't make Monday, Osner's just going to have to cancel whatever Wednesday plans he thinks he has.
If people wanted to spend an hour on the A train to get to Inwood... but I doubt anyone does. Hell, I can't get people I know in real life to come up to my place.
Wednesday is on the order of infinitely better for me than Monday, since my tax final is on Tuesday. I like Swift, and it's pretty spacious, but I've never been to Tia's recommendation which also sounds really good. Lately I've been going to The Back Room a bunch, it's very cool.
Wednesday is on the order of infinitely better for me than Monday
Conflict! How strong is your anti-Wednesday hunch, Jeremy? (I confess that Wednesday is also preferable for me, but not to the point of inflexibility).
I am easily confused, rather than mocking. (Well, I am often mocking, but this time easily confused.) I don't actually care much about location, other than proximity to the 456.
If it's to be on Monday we'd be well advised to call in advance, as many/some bars in the city are closed on Monday. Temple Bar sounds good to me. And their web site says they are open Monday.
Mm, I will not know how strong it is until this evening. Right now it is kind of like a cat stuck inside a box with an atom that has a 50% chance of emitting an alpha particle, which would trigger a cat-killing device. (a href="http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/ardlouis/dissipative/cat.gif">see diagram.) I mean to say, its waveform has yet to decay. But I'll let you know.
Can I ask a question for the group? Does what happen in the Mineshaft stay in the Mineshaft? I ask this because part of me would like to come to this gathering, but another part of me thinks it would be awfully imprudent because I have not general, but specific reason to believe that my pseudonymity might be pretty darn compromised by this gathering. As in, people who I might have occasion to see at work might be there.
people who I might have occasion to see at work might be there
You mean at the place we'll gather, and not as part of the Mineshaft crew, right? Otherwise, dude! I can tell you this much, I really am going to go by "ogged" at this thing, and I would hope that no one would be motivated to reveal anyone's secrets or identity. Obviously, all the pseudonymous people have to trust each other on this score.
Really? You're going to go as "ogged"? You trust me more than other pseudonymous people? (Of course, "ben wolfson" is a pseudonym as well, but it's less obvious.)
Well, Labs says he can do Monday, the 12th (he hedges about committing 100%, but screw him, he'll be there). A dagger in washerdreyer's heart! I hope you can still join us, w/d.
If the idea is to remain pseudonymous, can I put in a request to be addressed by the first syllable of mine? (Or, if necessary, the first two?) I don't think I can answer to the whole thing with a straight face.
The wave form has collapsed. I cannot drink with you on Wednesday evening, not at least in any possible futures I can imagine and find plausible. I am free however on Tuesday.
Because if it were 59th St., that would be no excuse. The new traveling Mineshaft where all is revealed will soon be the number one place to feel groovy.
I figure Tia's guessed that her new job may be at the same place as some other commenter -- e.g., she's got a job as a BigLaw paralegal, and thinks it's possible she might work with me IRL (or the same with any other commenter.) If that's the issue, I can't see it turning into any kind of a problem.
And LB, I'd happily head up to Inwood. If I lived in Manhattan, which alas I don't because I, for one, thoroughly enjoy being addressed as "bitch" in person, Inwood it would probably be.
Oh, I'm so sad I won't be able to make it! (Despite living in Philly, I'm in DC and NY a decent amount, just not then.) It would be great to meet people in real life. I'm sure everyone is lovely, and also I kind of suspect that, even though pretty much everyone who comments here can best me on-line, I'd own you all in real life. Oh, and I went to college with ac, and would probably recognize her, since it was such a small school. So, that'd be neat.
Just in case anyone was wondering, my earlier statement that I might be around NYC then was false. (At the time currently being discussed I'll definitely be in Llubbwck--little-known Welsh area of Texas.) Also, I am unwilling to divulge my pseudonym, though I figure Wolfson will do it for me.
It seems like you turned "'P'" into the (usually) more fluent "that P", but once disquoted, the anaphoric reference that was bound in the former became free in the latter, making a literal reading problematic. But, really, we knew what you meant.
It's the "might" and "was" that worry me. Was "I might be there" always false, or is it false only since the event that determined that I would not in fact be there then? This is particularly worrisome if you're thinking about the semantics of "might" in the way discussed in the post I linked in 98--in fact I once in discussing those sentences exploited sentences of the form "That was true, but it isn't any more" to make some point that now totally escapes me.
(I take it that 'then' refers to 'the week of the Unfogged gathering' throughout.)
BTW, does anyone else find it odd that the comment thread to a post titled "squeeze me in" hasn't contained ONE cock joke? If it were tomorrow, I'd think it was because the turkey had made everyone sleepy....
B, instead of standing by and clucking (that's right, I said "clucking") at the rest of us, perhaps you could have made a cock joke. I think jokes of the form, "Ogged, I'd squeeze you in, but..." and "Ogged, honey, if I squeezed you in..." are promising.
O, well, I can't squeeze you in, b/c I'm not in NYC.
Also b/c--see, if Matt were really clever he'd have remembered this and linked to it--we've already had the comparison of relative cock/cunt sizes and, well, "squeeze" just wouldn't be the word now, would it?
Anyway, the word should be "gobbling," not "clucking"--in the spirit of the holiday, and also b/c it presents way, way more opportunities.
78--(Sorry it took me a while: I had to go make pumpkin-cheesecake, which is going to be absolutely bitching at the seventy-five thanksgivings I have to go to tomorrow.)
Bridge night, while the hardcore wishes it were truly weekly, is often cancelled by the softcore. If only I were addicted to, say, rummy or dominoes. No, I've got to love a game that requires exactly four people, no more, no less. Which is to say that if Unfogged met up on a Tuesday, I wouldn't feel too bad blowing off my flakier bridge partners.
But I am praying for either a Westside location or guaranteed silliness. If I'm going to have to trek from W125 to the lower East Side, I want things to get wild. I have no reputation to salvage, but I'll be going by "Jack," cuz China Mieville made it cool again.
Let's talk location. LB asks that it be somewhere off the 4,5, or 6 lines. That means nothing to me, but it's one criterion. Others: serves alcohol, serves some food, we absolutely won't have to yell to be heard, and, of course, is wicked cocksucker.
Jack -- you can get to Temple Bar with only a single transfer, if you don't mind walking a few blocks in the cold -- the N/R (and I guess V these days!) stop at Prince St. is near there.
Temple Bar is probably a bad choice on the food front. The drinks are very expensive, but large, so it evens out, but if I remember correctly the food is all foolishly expensive. I've never eaten anything there other than the popcorn they put on your table, and I believe it's because every time I looked at the food options I began giggling hysterically at the thought that anyone would order off that menu.
Probably one of the other suggestions (my vote's not Zum Schneider just cause I don't want to schlep that far from the train, but it's not a dealbreaker) is preferable.
If we could be in a slightly less hip neighborhood, Old Town Bar & Grill (18th St and Broadway, just north of Union Square, near the 4-5-6 and the N-R) is a favorite. Food and drinks are good and inexpensive. I don't know if they're open Monday but it sounds like we're leaning toward Tuesday anyways. It can be crowded and noisy but I would not expect that to be the case of a Tuesday.
Great burgers, too (also, I've heard, good veggie burgers.) And there's usually a quiet table in the upstairs, even when downstairs is crazy. Consider this a firm vote for Old Town.
I'll get out of work about 6, and can just walk up there in ten or fifteen minutes, so on the early side is preferable for me. But I realize some (LB?) might be working later.
Don't schedule around me -- on any given particular evening, I can either get out of the office whenever I feel like, or not until quite late. I can't count on making it at all, but the time it's scheduled for shouldn't make a difference.
Ideally I would be able to catch a train out of Hoboken at 9:30; meeting up at 6:30 is in my experience consistent with catching this train. Or whatever works for you guys.
I'm a NYC-style mostly-lurker and have no immediate plans for that week in December, although I'd like to ogle ogged.
I vote night over day, cocktails over coffee, and camera-less silliness over decorum.
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-22-05 10:43 PM
That's the spirit.
And yeah, no effin' cameras.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-22-05 10:45 PM
I'm down. And if you really want to bond, we should change our weekend football game to the Sunday and we can play it rather than watch it. It'll all be very masculine.
Posted by Ezra | Link to this comment | 11-22-05 11:20 PM
Watch football, I said. I'm old, man, I can't be running around. Seriously, I'd throw the ball around, but I don't want to get all sweaty and then hop on some conveyance to NY.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-22-05 11:29 PM
dammit... this is what i get for moving away from DC. either way, we (by we I mean those of us who are desperate enough to live vicariously through a pseudonimous blog..) expect a full report of what was drunk, where it was drunk, and who drank it. even if you wallflowers refuse to bring cameras...
Posted by mike d | Link to this comment | 11-22-05 11:29 PM
It's so totally appropriate that the Mine Shaft is re-opening as a Chinese restaurant, because "ATM" is to unfogged comments as "in bed" is to fortune cookie fortunes, no?
Posted by M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 6:03 AM
Hmm, I might drive up for the DC gathering.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 6:42 AM
man, i wish i were flying in on the 11th instead of the 12th so i could....watch you all watch football.
go eat oohs and ahhs while you're in town!
Posted by catherine | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 6:53 AM
I reckon the 12th and the 15th are the best of those days for me, though I could probably make it on the 14th or the 16th as well. So sign me up!
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:11 AM
I vote the 14th or the 16th.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:18 AM
The DC gathering should be a blast (assuming your "lukers welcome" policy extends to that leg of the trip too), either day is fine.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:28 AM
I'd throw the ball around, but I don't want to get all sweaty and then hop on some conveyance to NY.
Surely a Mineshaft round of touch would end in a towel-snapping locker room communal shower, no?
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:31 AM
Surely a Mineshaft round of touch would end in a towel-snapping locker room communal shower, no?
It's mandatory—written into our Doughboy League bylaws.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:45 AM
Not the 16th, for me, but of the other nights any one is as good as the other. For locations, if we can stay fairly close to any stop on the 4, 5, or 6, I'm happy(best for me is the Grand Central area, but that seems to be disfavored by consensus.)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:47 AM
Eh, we love you LB, but there's just not much interesting around Grand Central. I vote for SoHo, but that's just me being selfish. Anywhere's fine, though. The East Village has loads of fun, cheapish, hippish places, for example.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:06 AM
Temple Bar? I think it's Bleecker and Bowery. It's a good place to talk, and the drinks are good.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:15 AM
If it's a non-Thursday weekday, Double Happiness (Mott and...uh...Broome?) is lovely. Music at just the right volume, lots of fun little passageways and nooks, good drinks.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:20 AM
I know one of the bartenders here. And it's named for Dean Swift.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:23 AM
Count me in for whatever DC gathering emerges.
Posted by tom | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:24 AM
Tia!
Hey, DC folks, speak up about the lurkers, because I'm not clear on where you guys do your football watching, and don't feel comfortable telling everyone to join us without knowing, though of course that would be best.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:45 AM
Another really nice place downtown -- one of the best beer bars in the city IMO, and the only member of the set that is also in Manhattan -- is Zum Schneider on Ave. C and 7th St. Great place for hanging out too though it gets very crowded Friday evenings.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:54 AM
when's the chicky-g tour?
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:02 AM
Since y'all are talking about places, just be sure that the place serves some food, because there's always someone who's hungry, and that someone is usually me.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:03 AM
The usual suspects do a good bit of football watching at my and Sausagely's place, and I'd be more than happy to make breakfast tacos for whoever shows up. But a headcount would be useful for that, which I suppose compromises lurker status.
If that's too complicated my vote is for Townhouse Tavern, on 17th and R.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:09 AM
ac and Jeremy, how strongly do you disfavor your disfavored days? And is there anyone who just can't make the 12th, or 14th, or 15th, who could break the tie?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:10 AM
Maybe the Tavern is best then, for DC, so you don't have to worry about a headcount, and people who don't know until the last minute don't have to feel bad about dropping in.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:13 AM
But thanks for the breakfast taco offer; I feel like I'll be missing something I ought not be missing.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:14 AM
You realize that "breakfast taco" was not a metaphor, right, ogged?
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:35 AM
I can't do the 15th.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:38 AM
Why do you think I was thanking him so? Kriston has written,
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:38 AM
Well my general hunch is that Wednesday is right out but Friday is probably doable. Zum Schneider serves limited food, mostly sausage IIRC. Good if you like sausage, which I'm given to understand some people do not. Here is a link to their menu -- it calls itself a "Sommerkarte" so winter menu may be diff, but that should give you an idea.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:40 AM
Uh oh, have we just narrowed it down to Monday?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:42 AM
Good if you like sausage, which I'm given to understand some people do not.
Everyone likes sausage. ATM.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:47 AM
Was that one of those implicit jokes of which you and Wolfson seem so full? Also, can't you steal or whip up some code that allows for instant run-off voting and just use that to settle the day/place/time/sexual act issues?
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:49 AM
Was what an implicit joke? Anyway, it seems we really have narrowed it down to Monday, at least among the people who have commented so far. I'm trying to get in touch with Labs, but he seems out of computer range at the moment. Obviously, if Labs can't make Monday, Osner's just going to have to cancel whatever Wednesday plans he thinks he has.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:53 AM
What about an RSVP-only breakfast taco meal, followed by ambling over to the tavern to watch football?
Posted by tom | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:11 AM
Thinking about it, we should go to LB's place, since she's compromising on the downtown and after work.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:12 AM
Yeah, I'll have the chorizo ready. IYKWIM.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:14 AM
What about an RSVP-only breakfast taco meal, followed by ambling over to the tavern to watch football?
I'm going to be staying in Bethesda; I really don't know, so how reasonable is it that I can make it over for breakfast?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:14 AM
On a Sunday, you could probably make it in 20 minutes.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:16 AM
My place is close to the Tavern, anyway, so it would be mean leaving just a little earlier than football o'clock.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:19 AM
If people wanted to spend an hour on the A train to get to Inwood... but I doubt anyone does. Hell, I can't get people I know in real life to come up to my place.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:22 AM
Wednesday is on the order of infinitely better for me than Monday, since my tax final is on Tuesday. I like Swift, and it's pretty spacious, but I've never been to Tia's recommendation which also sounds really good. Lately I've been going to The Back Room a bunch, it's very cool.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:23 AM
The term "breakfast taco" really just signals the presence of eggs. I don't think I've ever actually had one prior to 1pm.
Posted by tom | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:23 AM
Wednesday is on the order of infinitely better for me than Monday
Conflict! How strong is your anti-Wednesday hunch, Jeremy? (I confess that Wednesday is also preferable for me, but not to the point of inflexibility).
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:26 AM
Mocking my graciousness? I meant, as you well know, Lizard, Temple Bar.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:26 AM
I am easily confused, rather than mocking. (Well, I am often mocking, but this time easily confused.) I don't actually care much about location, other than proximity to the 456.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:28 AM
If it's to be on Monday we'd be well advised to call in advance, as many/some bars in the city are closed on Monday. Temple Bar sounds good to me. And their web site says they are open Monday.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:40 AM
But see 45, JO.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:42 AM
How strong is your anti-Wednesday hunch, Jeremy?
Mm, I will not know how strong it is until this evening. Right now it is kind of like a cat stuck inside a box with an atom that has a 50% chance of emitting an alpha particle, which would trigger a cat-killing device. (a href="http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/ardlouis/dissipative/cat.gif">see diagram.) I mean to say, its waveform has yet to decay. But I'll let you know.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:58 AM
Bad coder! Bad coder! Go to your room for time out!
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:59 AM
Hi Ogged!
Can I ask a question for the group? Does what happen in the Mineshaft stay in the Mineshaft? I ask this because part of me would like to come to this gathering, but another part of me thinks it would be awfully imprudent because I have not general, but specific reason to believe that my pseudonymity might be pretty darn compromised by this gathering. As in, people who I might have occasion to see at work might be there.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:15 AM
The plot thickens!
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:17 AM
people who I might have occasion to see at work might be there
You mean at the place we'll gather, and not as part of the Mineshaft crew, right? Otherwise, dude! I can tell you this much, I really am going to go by "ogged" at this thing, and I would hope that no one would be motivated to reveal anyone's secrets or identity. Obviously, all the pseudonymous people have to trust each other on this score.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:18 AM
No, I actually mean the Mineshaft crew.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:19 AM
Damn I hope I am not the only person there without a pseudonym. Maybe I should wear a mask to make up for my non-anonymity.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:22 AM
Really? You're going to go as "ogged"? You trust me more than other pseudonymous people? (Of course, "ben wolfson" is a pseudonym as well, but it's less obvious.)
No, I actually mean the Mineshaft crew.
A beurre manié has been added to the plot!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:24 AM
No, I actually mean the Mineshaft crew.
Dude!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:24 AM
Well, Labs says he can do Monday, the 12th (he hedges about committing 100%, but screw him, he'll be there). A dagger in washerdreyer's heart! I hope you can still join us, w/d.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:28 AM
Is this frisson? I think it's frisson.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:28 AM
Ok people, I'm also flexible on Tuesday, and Labs says he can also do Tuesday, so, is there anyone who can't make Tuesday, the 13th?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:40 AM
I see Friday the 13th falls on a Tuesday next month.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:42 AM
If the idea is to remain pseudonymous, can I put in a request to be addressed by the first syllable of mine? (Or, if necessary, the first two?) I don't think I can answer to the whole thing with a straight face.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:47 AM
You're not required to stay pseudonymous.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:50 AM
Wow. Going by the pseudonym in real life. This is going to be weird. Time to figure out how to pronounce Matt Y's name backward.
Posted by tom | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:55 AM
It's a solved problem.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:57 AM
The wave form has collapsed. I cannot drink with you on Wednesday evening, not at least in any possible futures I can imagine and find plausible. I am free however on Tuesday.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 12:01 PM
but screw him, he'll be there
You have to buy me a drink first, I think.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 12:02 PM
Tom goes by Boston Buns, for what it's worth.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 12:02 PM
I can do any night, and I'll be going by Joe Drymala, which is actually pronounced "Aloisius P. Featherstone".
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:13 PM
I'm just a lurker, but Monday would be better for me. Tuesday is usually bridge night.
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:15 PM
Obviously, I vote for tuesday.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:17 PM
Tuesday is usually bridge night.
Brooklyn or George Washington?
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:35 PM
Brooklyn or George Washington?
Because if it were 59th St., that would be no excuse. The new traveling Mineshaft where all is revealed will soon be the number one place to feel groovy.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:39 PM
59th St.
Puh-leez. All the hip kids call it the Queensboro.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:49 PM
Simon & Garfunkel aren't hip?
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:53 PM
I want to write the Queensboro Bridge Song. Alas I am without talent.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 1:57 PM
Jackmormon, does that mean you can't make Tuesday? I'm inclined to favor young washerdreyer's need to do well in school over bridge, if not.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 2:24 PM
Personally, I can't imagine w/d's tax exam not being improved by ogged-led bacchanalia. But then again, I'm a 3L...
I'm in for Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday.
Posted by Doug | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 2:53 PM
I'm still curious about 52. Can I guess what the plot-thickener is?
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:29 PM
Who are you, Wolfson? I think 52 was too hot a potato for us.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:35 PM
I can't take the suspense, I just can't. I could guess privately.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:39 PM
I already said what the plot-thickener is. Buerre manié.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:42 PM
re. 83:
beurre
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:44 PM
I'm really enjoying that nameless, drive-by pwning.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:47 PM
I got it right the first time.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:51 PM
The lost glory of youth.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:52 PM
Better have gloried and lost, ogged, than never to have gloried at all.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:54 PM
I figure Tia's guessed that her new job may be at the same place as some other commenter -- e.g., she's got a job as a BigLaw paralegal, and thinks it's possible she might work with me IRL (or the same with any other commenter.) If that's the issue, I can't see it turning into any kind of a problem.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 3:55 PM
Wouldn't it be more fun if she worked at a doctor's office? Or a psychiatrist's?
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 4:00 PM
Parole officer, &c.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 4:01 PM
Drug dealer.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 4:04 PM
Maybe she just doesn't want it confirmed that you've been making eyes at her, LB.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 4:04 PM
Curses, busted again.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 4:05 PM
Damn, y'all suck.
And LB, I'd happily head up to Inwood. If I lived in Manhattan, which alas I don't because I, for one, thoroughly enjoy being addressed as "bitch" in person, Inwood it would probably be.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 4:57 PM
Oh, I'm so sad I won't be able to make it! (Despite living in Philly, I'm in DC and NY a decent amount, just not then.) It would be great to meet people in real life. I'm sure everyone is lovely, and also I kind of suspect that, even though pretty much everyone who comments here can best me on-line, I'd own you all in real life. Oh, and I went to college with ac, and would probably recognize her, since it was such a small school. So, that'd be neat.
Posted by pjs | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 5:11 PM
Just in case anyone was wondering, my earlier statement that I might be around NYC then was false. (At the time currently being discussed I'll definitely be in Llubbwck--little-known Welsh area of Texas.) Also, I am unwilling to divulge my pseudonym, though I figure Wolfson will do it for me.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:11 PM
Great, now I'm worrying about the semantics of "my earlier statement that I might be around NYC then was false."
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:12 PM
The 'was', not the 'then', should be bolded.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:13 PM
Matt Weiner's pseudonym is "Matt Weiner". His real name is "Mick Barr".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:15 PM
It seems like you turned "'P'" into the (usually) more fluent "that P", but once disquoted, the anaphoric reference that was bound in the former became free in the latter, making a literal reading problematic. But, really, we knew what you meant.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:23 PM
The 'was', not the 'then', should be bolded.
Oops, never mind the anaphora stuffs.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:25 PM
It's the "might" and "was" that worry me. Was "I might be there" always false, or is it false only since the event that determined that I would not in fact be there then? This is particularly worrisome if you're thinking about the semantics of "might" in the way discussed in the post I linked in 98--in fact I once in discussing those sentences exploited sentences of the form "That was true, but it isn't any more" to make some point that now totally escapes me.
(I take it that 'then' refers to 'the week of the Unfogged gathering' throughout.)
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 7:53 PM
BTW, does anyone else find it odd that the comment thread to a post titled "squeeze me in" hasn't contained ONE cock joke? If it were tomorrow, I'd think it was because the turkey had made everyone sleepy....
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:03 PM
B, instead of standing by and clucking (that's right, I said "clucking") at the rest of us, perhaps you could have made a cock joke. I think jokes of the form, "Ogged, I'd squeeze you in, but..." and "Ogged, honey, if I squeezed you in..." are promising.
Happy Turkey.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:10 PM
Oops, never mind the anaphora stuffs.
This is good advice in general.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:11 PM
We're a tight bunch. Of course we'll squeeze him in.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:11 PM
___ would like to stuff ____'s anaphora...
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:13 PM
If you never flesh out your pronoun, it's just a dangling cataphor.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:17 PM
A dangling cataphor to catch dangling mice.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:18 PM
The #1 hit for "cataphor" is one click away from a biscuit conditional.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:30 PM
Well, when Mick Barr comes up here for his 15th college reunion, we'll have to have a greater Boston unfogged get together.
Posted by bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:33 PM
Oooh, fleshy pronouns! Sign me up!
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:34 PM
Anaphora dime, anaphora dollar.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 8:39 PM
I'd like to interrupt this abuse I'm heaping on yinz and recommend this engaging post on community-wrought and -experienced art, by the Mark A.R. Kleiman collective's Michael O'Hare. That is all.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:01 PM
yinz
Are you also my homie, or are you just trying to make me happy?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:08 PM
That information is classified.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:09 PM
That is to say, it needs concealed.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:13 PM
O, well, I can't squeeze you in, b/c I'm not in NYC.
Also b/c--see, if Matt were really clever he'd have remembered this and linked to it--we've already had the comparison of relative cock/cunt sizes and, well, "squeeze" just wouldn't be the word now, would it?
Anyway, the word should be "gobbling," not "clucking"--in the spirit of the holiday, and also b/c it presents way, way more opportunities.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:34 PM
78--(Sorry it took me a while: I had to go make pumpkin-cheesecake, which is going to be absolutely bitching at the seventy-five thanksgivings I have to go to tomorrow.)
Bridge night, while the hardcore wishes it were truly weekly, is often cancelled by the softcore. If only I were addicted to, say, rummy or dominoes. No, I've got to love a game that requires exactly four people, no more, no less. Which is to say that if Unfogged met up on a Tuesday, I wouldn't feel too bad blowing off my flakier bridge partners.
But I am praying for either a Westside location or guaranteed silliness. If I'm going to have to trek from W125 to the lower East Side, I want things to get wild. I have no reputation to salvage, but I'll be going by "Jack," cuz China Mieville made it cool again.
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:41 PM
Tuesday it is!
Let's talk location. LB asks that it be somewhere off the 4,5, or 6 lines. That means nothing to me, but it's one criterion. Others: serves alcohol, serves some food, we absolutely won't have to yell to be heard, and, of course, is wicked cocksucker.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 9:58 PM
I am tragically unhip (yeah, I had a bridge conflict), so I'll have to defer to others on location.
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 10:13 PM
ogged employs my Yankee malapropism by writing "wicked cocksucker" instead of "wizard cocksucker." I wonder whether this is now a recognized variant.
Posted by bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:47 PM
Oh god, I really did write "wicked cocksucker," didn't I? Great, I'm twelve years old. Of course I meant "wizard cocksucker."
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-23-05 11:52 PM
I already said what the plot-thickener is. Beurre manié.
's a little early for that innit? I'd think you'd want the sauce flavored just right and cooling down before ye did that.
Unless ye just like little lumpy white bits floating in a soup.
So are they gonna call it the China Shaft?
ash
['...go down for that downhome Szechuan taste.']
Posted by ash | Link to this comment | 11-24-05 5:19 AM
Jack -- you can get to Temple Bar with only a single transfer, if you don't mind walking a few blocks in the cold -- the N/R (and I guess V these days!) stop at Prince St. is near there.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-24-05 7:17 AM
Temple Bar is probably a bad choice on the food front. The drinks are very expensive, but large, so it evens out, but if I remember correctly the food is all foolishly expensive. I've never eaten anything there other than the popcorn they put on your table, and I believe it's because every time I looked at the food options I began giggling hysterically at the thought that anyone would order off that menu.
Probably one of the other suggestions (my vote's not Zum Schneider just cause I don't want to schlep that far from the train, but it's not a dealbreaker) is preferable.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-24-05 6:47 PM
Large drinks suck.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 2:55 AM
If we could be in a slightly less hip neighborhood, Old Town Bar & Grill (18th St and Broadway, just north of Union Square, near the 4-5-6 and the N-R) is a favorite. Food and drinks are good and inexpensive. I don't know if they're open Monday but it sounds like we're leaning toward Tuesday anyways. It can be crowded and noisy but I would not expect that to be the case of a Tuesday.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 5:42 AM
That's fine with me. The last time I tried to go there it was closed for a film shoot.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 8:06 AM
Great burgers, too (also, I've heard, good veggie burgers.) And there's usually a quiet table in the upstairs, even when downstairs is crazy. Consider this a firm vote for Old Town.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 8:41 AM
Cool. Everything I've just read about it makes it sound great, so Old Town Bar & Grill on Tuesday, the 13th. What time is best for the commentariat?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 9:04 AM
I'll get out of work about 6, and can just walk up there in ten or fifteen minutes, so on the early side is preferable for me. But I realize some (LB?) might be working later.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 9:30 AM
Don't schedule around me -- on any given particular evening, I can either get out of the office whenever I feel like, or not until quite late. I can't count on making it at all, but the time it's scheduled for shouldn't make a difference.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 9:44 AM
Ideally I would be able to catch a train out of Hoboken at 9:30; meeting up at 6:30 is in my experience consistent with catching this train. Or whatever works for you guys.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 10:36 AM
Works for me.
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 12:46 PM
Sure.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 1:11 PM
Hey BTW thanks for going with the place I suggested -- that always gives me a nice rush of raconteurish feeling. (I'm a cheap date in that regard.)
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 11-25-05 5:53 PM