I know it's in the form of a clichéd topic for an argument, but since a friend of mine just brought it up and then said some things which I found obviously wrong, what're the opinions on whether could USC beat the Texans? Since "could" is pretty vague, I clarified to how many games each team would win if they played a series of ten.
ah, those were my attempts to be "rad" and "neat-o" like the young cats today.
however, if drudge is right (and i won't believe it until its reported by someone who's right at least half the time), my comment may have been elevated into the upper reaches of bad taste by the passing of all of a couple hours. and in addition to me feeling bad about an internet comment, 11 people may be lying dead in my hometown after their families were told they were alive. shit.
to change the subject completely (after feeling like i just threw up in my mouth)...not only did i miss the unfogged awkward meetup tour in nyc when it occurred 1.5 blocks from my apt (lurker guilt), but a click leads me to believe that w/d and i may be at the same school. which probably opens the door for a quip about the internet, or something.
Serious issues aside, the so-called Big Ten has 11 members now, and Penn State is #11. This doesn't really have anything to do with the Big Ten -- Penn State is just using the other 10 schools like whores. Being an independent was just too difficult in the postseason, so they got themselves a "beard".
I ended up sleeping on the couch because of the game -- Mr. Breath is a strongly attached PS grad, and every time I entered the room where the game was on (our only TV is in our bedroom) something disastrous happened for the Lions. So I stayed on the couch until the game ended, at something like 2 in the morning. But at least he's happy.
your comment reeks of bitterness, georgia, and sulfur.
however, if drudge is right (and i won't believe it until its reported by someone who's right at least half the time), my comment may have been elevated into the upper reaches of bad taste by the passing of all of a couple hours. and in addition to me feeling bad about an internet comment, 11 people may be lying dead in my hometown after their families were told they were alive. shit.
Can I guide this conversation back toward the subject of college football? I only want to note that Austin is electric right now. People are ambling through the streets, just waiting for the game to start.
You sir, are wrong. College overtime rocks, because not everything depends on the coin toss, and the format of "can you match this" makes, like last night, for great drama.
every time I entered the room where the game was on (our only TV is in our bedroom) something disastrous happened for the Lions. So I stayed on the couch until the game ended
I remain convinced that I am responsible for Georgetown's loss in 1985 to Villanova; I watched the game at a friend's house, instead of in front of my own TV, wearing my lucky shirt.
O, I have it on reasonably good authority that the toss-winning team wins only about half the SDOTs. I could check this, but I'd rather lazily toss it out there instead.
I dunno. Once you remove that coin toss fallacy, the high stakes of sudden death, in which every single play could be the last one, seems more dramatic to me. But what do I know.
It's more dramatic in college football; for some reason 'We gotta match them NOW' is more enticing than 'We gotta stop them from scoring'. When one team gets a field goal in college on the first OT possession, the place goes absolutely insane.
I like the college OT rule because it creates more tension. Nothing that happens on the first possession is conclusive (unless there's a touchdown by the defense), so we have at least another series which will be tense in different ways depending on the outcome of the first possession.
The "stupid chopping gesture" is a salute, not a "chop". When Deion Sanders went to Atlanta, Braves fans thought foam tomahawks were cool things for fans to wave-- they are primarily responsible for the "chop" misnomer.
As far as the symbol of the Seminole goes, here is some history on the tribe that I find inspirational.
Here's my half-plan for how to fix SDOT: instead of a coin toss, place the ball on the 50 yard line. Line each team up on their own 35 or 40. Blow the whistle, and the team that winds up with the ball wins it.
It's only a half-plan, since I don't know what happens next. The team with the ball probably shouldn't keep it at that part of the field, since it's only 20 yards to field goal range. Perhaps the losing team would kick as if a real coin had been tossed.
There is nothing inspirational about anything associated with Free Shoes University.
Ogged, Texas is taking home the national championship. I'm immune to your attempts to goad me. I also think Reggie Bush is amazing, and he would have gone first pick in the draft had USC not had to play Texas's crushing defense tonight.
This page says in NCAA overtime rules the coin toss winner wins the game about 52% of the time while in sudden death overtime rules the coin toss winner wins the game 57% of the time. Sudden death is still better.
instead of a coin toss, place the ball on the 50 yard line. Line each team up on their own 35 or 40. Blow the whistle, and the team that winds up with the ball wins it.
This sounds suspiciously like the "Scramble for the Ball", in the now-defunct XFL.
Here's my proposal: In overtime, give each team a ball. Then, each team must simultaneously play offense and defense. At the end of each down, set the line of scrimmage at the midpoint between where the two balls end up. In the case of an interception, one team would then have both balls. First team to score wins.
Feeling like crap for thirty years is bad, but if Penn State had lost, I'm pretty sure their kicker would have killed himself by dawn.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 3-06 11:35 PM
is it ok to shout out for the wvu mountaineers, who played so well it saved the big east and 12 miners?
Posted by matty | Link to this comment | 01- 3-06 11:41 PM
matty,
no.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01- 3-06 11:46 PM
tweedle,
your comment reeks of bitterness, georgia, and sulfur.
Posted by matty | Link to this comment | 01- 3-06 11:53 PM
I know it's in the form of a clichéd topic for an argument, but since a friend of mine just brought it up and then said some things which I found obviously wrong, what're the opinions on whether could USC beat the Texans? Since "could" is pretty vague, I clarified to how many games each team would win if they played a series of ten.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01- 3-06 11:59 PM
actually, non of the above. I just hate "shout outs." Almost as much as I hate "props." What's a prop anyhow?
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 1:13 AM
ah, those were my attempts to be "rad" and "neat-o" like the young cats today.
however, if drudge is right (and i won't believe it until its reported by someone who's right at least half the time), my comment may have been elevated into the upper reaches of bad taste by the passing of all of a couple hours. and in addition to me feeling bad about an internet comment, 11 people may be lying dead in my hometown after their families were told they were alive. shit.
to change the subject completely (after feeling like i just threw up in my mouth)...not only did i miss the unfogged awkward meetup tour in nyc when it occurred 1.5 blocks from my apt (lurker guilt), but a click leads me to believe that w/d and i may be at the same school. which probably opens the door for a quip about the internet, or something.
Posted by matty | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 1:56 AM
CNN is reporting the same.
Posted by MMGood | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 1:59 AM
Serious issues aside, the so-called Big Ten has 11 members now, and Penn State is #11. This doesn't really have anything to do with the Big Ten -- Penn State is just using the other 10 schools like whores. Being an independent was just too difficult in the postseason, so they got themselves a "beard".
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 4:34 AM
6 -- I think it is short for "propitiations" -- when you give somebody "props", you are making obeisance to them as to a god.
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 5:53 AM
I ended up sleeping on the couch because of the game -- Mr. Breath is a strongly attached PS grad, and every time I entered the room where the game was on (our only TV is in our bedroom) something disastrous happened for the Lions. So I stayed on the couch until the game ended, at something like 2 in the morning. But at least he's happy.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 7:29 AM
We are! Penn State!
I must hear this new song by Sufjan Stevens.
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 7:51 AM
12 is me.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 7:53 AM
your comment reeks of bitterness, georgia, and sulfur.
however, if drudge is right (and i won't believe it until its reported by someone who's right at least half the time), my comment may have been elevated into the upper reaches of bad taste by the passing of all of a couple hours. and in addition to me feeling bad about an internet comment, 11 people may be lying dead in my hometown after their families were told they were alive. shit.
That's very silly. Stop that.
ash
['You're not that important.']
Posted by ash | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 8:37 AM
Harsh, ash. I mean, I don't think matty came anywhere near the "upper reaches of bad taste," but still.
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 8:47 AM
Can I guide this conversation back toward the subject of college football? I only want to note that Austin is electric right now. People are ambling through the streets, just waiting for the game to start.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 9:34 AM
For no particulare reason, other than that Reggie Bush is awesome, go SC!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 9:37 AM
He's never going to speak to me again, is he?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 10:33 AM
I hate college overtime. Sudden death overtime is the best overtime ever.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 10:52 AM
You sir, are wrong. College overtime rocks, because not everything depends on the coin toss, and the format of "can you match this" makes, like last night, for great drama.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 10:55 AM
every time I entered the room where the game was on (our only TV is in our bedroom) something disastrous happened for the Lions. So I stayed on the couch until the game ended
I remain convinced that I am responsible for Georgetown's loss in 1985 to Villanova; I watched the game at a friend's house, instead of in front of my own TV, wearing my lucky shirt.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:03 AM
What was great about the overtime was its emphasis on the down side of "can you match this?", namely, "can you screw this up too?"
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:16 AM
O, I have it on reasonably good authority that the toss-winning team wins only about half the SDOTs. I could check this, but I'd rather lazily toss it out there instead.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:20 AM
In that case, college overtime is better because everything doesn't seem to depend on the coin toss. Now nobody needs to look up anything.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:22 AM
But here are your damn stats anyway.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:25 AM
I dunno. Once you remove that coin toss fallacy, the high stakes of sudden death, in which every single play could be the last one, seems more dramatic to me. But what do I know.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:29 AM
It's more dramatic in college football; for some reason 'We gotta match them NOW' is more enticing than 'We gotta stop them from scoring'. When one team gets a field goal in college on the first OT possession, the place goes absolutely insane.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:31 AM
I like the college OT rule because it creates more tension. Nothing that happens on the first possession is conclusive (unless there's a touchdown by the defense), so we have at least another series which will be tense in different ways depending on the outcome of the first possession.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:40 AM
The "stupid chopping gesture" is a salute, not a "chop". When Deion Sanders went to Atlanta, Braves fans thought foam tomahawks were cool things for fans to wave-- they are primarily responsible for the "chop" misnomer.
As far as the symbol of the Seminole goes, here is some history on the tribe that I find inspirational.
Posted by Oyster | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:50 AM
Here's my half-plan for how to fix SDOT: instead of a coin toss, place the ball on the 50 yard line. Line each team up on their own 35 or 40. Blow the whistle, and the team that winds up with the ball wins it.
It's only a half-plan, since I don't know what happens next. The team with the ball probably shouldn't keep it at that part of the field, since it's only 20 yards to field goal range. Perhaps the losing team would kick as if a real coin had been tossed.
Posted by Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:54 AM
I like the college overtime, but wish they'd start from the 30 or 35.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 11:58 AM
Always give the ball to the team with the worse offense.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:02 PM
Ben, this is a sports thread.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:03 PM
You're just being pissy because you know that I'd totally score more touchdowns in a 1-on-1 game of baseball if we ever played, ogged.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:07 PM
I think you're completely serious, and nothing you can say will change my mind.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:09 PM
There is nothing inspirational about anything associated with Free Shoes University.
Ogged, Texas is taking home the national championship. I'm immune to your attempts to goad me. I also think Reggie Bush is amazing, and he would have gone first pick in the draft had USC not had to play Texas's crushing defense tonight.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:13 PM
Spoiled Children by two touchdowns.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:30 PM
You've lost your damned mind, SCMT.
The over/under for this game is *69 1/2.* It's going to be nuts. Texas by 10.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:32 PM
South Carolina all the way.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:32 PM
Can't lick our 'Cocks. (Had to be said.)
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:35 PM
USC vs. USC would be an appropriate match-up, given their team names.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:36 PM
If "rock, paper, scissors" is any guide, the Trojans would have the better of that contest.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:43 PM
This page says in NCAA overtime rules the coin toss winner wins the game about 52% of the time while in sudden death overtime rules the coin toss winner wins the game 57% of the time. Sudden death is still better.
Posted by Joe O | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:48 PM
I loathe USC, so I'm pulling for Texas.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:49 PM
instead of a coin toss, place the ball on the 50 yard line. Line each team up on their own 35 or 40. Blow the whistle, and the team that winds up with the ball wins it.
This sounds suspiciously like the "Scramble for the Ball", in the now-defunct XFL.
Not that this makes it a bad idea, mind you.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 12:59 PM
Doesn't it also sound a little bit like "rugby"?
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 1:10 PM
I blame my Americentric worldview. I even played a (painful) season of rugby. Never been so muddy in all my life. It was a particularly rainy fall.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 1:20 PM
Here's my proposal: In overtime, give each team a ball. Then, each team must simultaneously play offense and defense. At the end of each down, set the line of scrimmage at the midpoint between where the two balls end up. In the case of an interception, one team would then have both balls. First team to score wins.
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 01- 4-06 1:20 PM