We were supposed to get to Bush v. Gore in class today, but instead we're doing a couple of precursor cases on Federal Courts offering ex post remedies to state vote counting procedures. If we had done Bush v. Gore, I'd probably have something to say in this thread.
LB, I know we talked about this aleady, possibly on my blog (though I couldn't find it), but you had Law of Dem with Pildes, right? I have it with Isacharoff, who has been great.
That's right. Ischaroff covered one class for us, and I was very impressed. That is, he was as substantively interesting as Pildes was on the material, which was very, and much less tense. Pildes had kind of a testy Felix Unger thing going on.
Law of Voting and Elections would be another possible name. The cases leading up to 'One man, one vote', civil rights voting law from the reconstruction up through the VRA... that sort of thing. It was fascinating. Pildes and Isscharoff, the two profs we've been discussing, wrote a casebook collecting the relevant materials.
well, hell, why not: fed cts = awesome. any class that gives me a reading where O'Connor waxes eleoquent about the need for clarity and the dangers of ad hockery is all right by me.
though i can only hope he lectures on how to lose every major race you've ever worked on and spouting transparent populist tripe:
The NYU Law Democrats welcome
Bob Shrum
"Using your law degree in
public service and politics"
Bob Shrum is one of the most sought-after campaign consultants for the Democratic Party.
Mr. Shrum was the principal campaign consultant to the John Kerry 2004 presidential campaign. He is a graduate of Harvard Law School, and is currently a senior fellow at the NYU Wagner School of Public Service.
Yes law school was good. I treated it as more humane education, read and briefed the cases myself. All kinds of factual details stick with me; Palsgraf, of course, but lots and lots of others.
The cynical, efficient thing to do was study from Emmanuels and grub for work.
Never took a case in elections. I remember those cases from constitutional law if at all.
Shrum probably won't be a bad speaker, but I'm not sure it solves eb's not wanting to be a lawyer problem. For instance, my class has the primary election lawyers for both the Democratic and Republican parties coming in to debate.
We were supposed to get to Bush v. Gore in class today, but instead we're doing a couple of precursor cases on Federal Courts offering ex post remedies to state vote counting procedures. If we had done Bush v. Gore, I'd probably have something to say in this thread.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 8:42 AM
Fed Courts, or Law of Democracy?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 8:45 AM
IIRC, the Help America Vote Act is a well-intentioned but unfunded mandate that the states mostly hate, along the lines of NCLB.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 8:48 AM
The second, saving fed courts for next year.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 8:48 AM
Loved that class. (Fed Courts, on the other hand, merely puzzled me.)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 8:51 AM
Would someone please make a joke about Michael Fitzpatrick's incredibly gay name?
Posted by FL McCrevis | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 8:58 AM
I feel humorless here, but what's funny about Michael Fitzpatrick? Just too Irish for words, or what?
And is that you, Labs, or someone else who shares your initials?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:00 AM
No offense, but anyone with the last name "McCrevis" should not be casting the first stone as far as funny names are concerned.
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:07 AM
MAE is pwned!
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:13 AM
7: Michael Fits Patrick.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:14 AM
That was fun to watch.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:16 AM
Now I understand everything.
Posted by Phil McCracken | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:18 AM
[redacted]
Posted by [redacted] | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:19 AM
My turn to play the straight man, I guess.
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:21 AM
My turn to play the straight man
At the Mineshaft. It's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 9:25 AM
LB, I know we talked about this aleady, possibly on my blog (though I couldn't find it), but you had Law of Dem with Pildes, right? I have it with Isacharoff, who has been great.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 10:13 AM
That's right. Ischaroff covered one class for us, and I was very impressed. That is, he was as substantively interesting as Pildes was on the material, which was very, and much less tense. Pildes had kind of a testy Felix Unger thing going on.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 10:16 AM
This isn't a law school class I recognise by name, "Law of Democracy." What's it cover? What do you read?
Posted by John Tingley | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 11:04 AM
Law of Voting and Elections would be another possible name. The cases leading up to 'One man, one vote', civil rights voting law from the reconstruction up through the VRA... that sort of thing. It was fascinating. Pildes and Isscharoff, the two profs we've been discussing, wrote a casebook collecting the relevant materials.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 11:11 AM
I would appreciate it if people would stop saying things that make me want to go to law school.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 11:23 AM
Hey, law school was great...
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 11:24 AM
That's my point. Law school sounds so interesting, but then I keep hearing about that whole "becoming a lawyer" side of things.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 11:27 AM
wait, lb was an nyu law person, too?
oh lord.
well, hell, why not: fed cts = awesome. any class that gives me a reading where O'Connor waxes eleoquent about the need for clarity and the dangers of ad hockery is all right by me.
Posted by matty | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 12:16 PM
eb:
problem solved!
though i can only hope he lectures on how to lose every major race you've ever worked on and spouting transparent populist tripe:
The NYU Law Democrats welcome
Bob Shrum
"Using your law degree in
public service and politics"
Bob Shrum is one of the most sought-after campaign consultants for the Democratic Party.
Mr. Shrum was the principal campaign consultant to the John Kerry 2004 presidential campaign. He is a graduate of Harvard Law School, and is currently a senior fellow at the NYU Wagner School of Public Service.
Wednesday, February 8th
6:30 P.M.
(Wine and Cheese Reception will follow)
Furman Hall
Room 216
NYU Law School
245 Sullivan Street
New York, NY 10012
Posted by matty | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 12:19 PM
nobody plays the straight man at the mineshaft.
(at the mineshaft [soviet russia] the straight man plays you).
law school was good.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 12:35 PM
Yes law school was good. I treated it as more humane education, read and briefed the cases myself. All kinds of factual details stick with me; Palsgraf, of course, but lots and lots of others.
The cynical, efficient thing to do was study from Emmanuels and grub for work.
Never took a case in elections. I remember those cases from constitutional law if at all.
Posted by John Tingley | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 1:41 PM
Shrum probably won't be a bad speaker, but I'm not sure it solves eb's not wanting to be a lawyer problem. For instance, my class has the primary election lawyers for both the Democratic and Republican parties coming in to debate.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 02- 1-06 2:43 PM