Don't know, but it's the kind of thing I find myself thinking about lately. I don't obsess about effects to the ozone--I'm alert enough to hear soon when there are measurable changes. Though broadly fair, I am brown for a redhead, and unlike my brother always tanned as well as freckled, so that my best guess as to why I seem to burn more now is that I'm less tanned to start with these days. I have no idea if suscetibility changes as we age; don't remember ever hearing.
Actually, I think most GOP'ers would say, as I say, sorry you got sunburned. Though it sounds like you had a nice day with Sally.
The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather is that you really appreciate a beautiful day like yesterday. I spent most of yesterday walking around the city just for the fun of it.
With enough floppy hats and sunscreen, no need to worry about the ozone layer. Of course, the water from the former polar ice caps will lapping around our ankles...or am I mixing up ecological disasters?
Why does this good cop/bad cop thing always have to be so binary? Why can't interrogations have disengaged cops, self-absorbed cops, neutral cops and passive-agressive cops in the mix?
Actually Idealist's The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather has set me wondering about the Dutch (it is a slow day, dontchaknow) and their propensity for building cities where you might not expect to find one. I guess, having made such a hit with Amsterdam, they felt that Nieuw Amsterdam ought to be a breeze.
Actually Idealist's The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather has set me wondering about the Dutch (it is a slow day, dontchaknow) and their propensity for building cities where you might not expect to find one.
Hey! New York is perhaps the finest natural site for a city on the planet. We have a huge and well protected harbor, a long navigable river leading inland, incredibly fertile farmland on all sides (Jersey could probably feed the rest of the US if you moved all the people out of it, stable bedrock ideal for building on -- what more do you want?
so that my best guess as to why I seem to burn more now is that I'm less tanned to start with these days.
Doesn't work for me, I've never been tanned at all. Just various shades of pink and freckled.
12: For the last time people: It is received wisdom, it says here, that there is no ecological disaster and any attempt to prove otherwise is necessarily unscientific. Got it?
Any unseasonal sunburns, are entirely your own problem.
Skin Cancer rates in Australia? Statistically inpept studies, see above.
Heh. The NY Times had a story on the Wiggles (Australian little-kid band, for the non-parents) and Sally was looking at the picture and asking what was wrong with them. It took me a minute to figure out what she meant, and then I realized "Sun damage. That's why you wear sunscreen, so you don't end up looking like the Wiggles."
Asperger cop reporting for duty, with my very long truncheon.
92 degrees in Dallas yesterday, we have been averaging 20+ degrees above normal for six months now. Summer is looking scarey and expensive. 115-120 will kill ya.
I am a natural redhead and used to burn a lot. After years in Texas and daily dog walks, I don't burn any more. Not dark, but I guess brown enough.
I'm good with cloud cover for today, really. (Not so much for me, given that I'm, obviously, indoors, but for Sally. She didn't get burned as badly as I did, having inherited some melanin from Buck, but she got fairly pink as well.)
When I saw the new Times last night and freaked out, I almost posted about it here and then thought "Naah. I'll just put the post on my personal site. Really, how many people are going to get as worked up about this as me?"
28: Oh my God, I'm going to have to read it, and I'm going to be all freaked out by the typeface, and is it going to make me feel bathed in stodginess and GOP spin like the old Times does? Odds are pretty darn slim.
In fact, the Clenis pierced the delicate ozone layer, and that's what made the hole. Then it rained, and the raindrops turned our litmus paper red. This is why we all have to shun the ozone layer, much as it pains us.
I would not go so far as to call the new NYT website an overall improvement, but it's not so bad--some things are better; I just find it a bit harder to read.
I guess I'm the only one who checks the "hands off my fonts, evildoers" box in my browser. But having let the evildoers have their way with me for a spell, I have to say good riddance to Times New Roman, the least screen-friendly font in common use. (Compare Comic Sans, the most microwaving-your-pets font in common use.)
I guess I'm the only one who checks the "hands off my fonts, evildoers" box in my browser.
I used to do that but grew tired of the conflicts it seemed to cause with websites whose designers counted on their text being a particular width and height.
I still keep the "hands off my foreground and background colors" box checked, though. It makes sites like Fafblog! be remarkably closer to work-safe.
I seal all my professional correspondence inside a dead goat.
I thought the preferred method was to tatoo the correspondence onto the shaved scalp of your slave, then allow his hair to grow back before sending him you your addressee, who would reshave the scalp to read the message.
The sun need not be stronger, if you've spent the winter in grey New York sans sunshine, and this was the first time out and you have pale skin like I do.
I once burned at a football game where it was drizzling and overcast.
And now I can't find anything on the NYT frontpage because the font is so tiny.
Are you disputing that New York has the world's worst weather or that there is only one upside to this fact?
Sure, there is slight exaggeration here; I have visited a lot of places, and I have seen worse weather (the DMZ in Korea in the winter--so cold the diesel fuel in our trucks froze--and summer in Saudi Arabia--the worst day actually was in early fall when it was 99 degrees and foggy). That said, taken as a whole and looking at the entire year--the weather in New York sucks!
The gaps in ozone layer are occuring, so far in the Southern Hemisphere. But by analogy to Franklin's elegant soap-drop-in-calm-water experiment, where he was able to approximate Avogadro's number, it should start at least thinning, and maybe breaking up elsewhere. Maybe the hole on the 40th parallel will be named after you.
New York has an amazing brainwashing ability that reminds me of what they say about childbirth (how you immediately forget how awful it was once it's over or you'd never go through it again). Every time it's windy and bitter during the winter and I'm sloshing through six inches of slush, all I can think about is how if I just get through it, I'll have a lovely New York summer to enjoy, with picnics in the park and such. Then summer rolls around and you remember that it's hot and sticky and disgusting and picnics in the park are far outnumbered by sweaty mornings stuck between stations in a 100 degree subway car and all you can think of is if you just get through the unbearable summer you'll have a beautiful New York winter where everything is covered in a lovely layer of white snow and the holiday decorations are up and...
"park" not "part"
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:33 AM
Was it at the nudist park?
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:38 AM
The GoP will tell you that you are being unscientific and possibly even unpatriotic for asking such questions.
I' m glad you had a good day though.
Spring was evident here too, so I had to get all four bikes back on their tyres and serviceable for active duty in the Wienerwald on Sunday.
Hope you didn't get too close to the Goose though, they can hurt.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:42 AM
I've noticed burns happening more quickly over the past few years.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:42 AM
Moonbat nonsense Apo.
Get with the programme will you.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:44 AM
Don't know, but it's the kind of thing I find myself thinking about lately. I don't obsess about effects to the ozone--I'm alert enough to hear soon when there are measurable changes. Though broadly fair, I am brown for a redhead, and unlike my brother always tanned as well as freckled, so that my best guess as to why I seem to burn more now is that I'm less tanned to start with these days. I have no idea if suscetibility changes as we age; don't remember ever hearing.
Posted by I don't pay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:45 AM
how closely one can approach a goose before it flees
Echoing Austro, I was attacked by a goose when I was a child and those things are scary when enraged. Scarier when they're about your height.
"A goose don't give a fuck."
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:46 AM
re: 3
Actually, I think most GOP'ers would say, as I say, sorry you got sunburned. Though it sounds like you had a nice day with Sally.
The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather is that you really appreciate a beautiful day like yesterday. I spent most of yesterday walking around the city just for the fun of it.
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:48 AM
I retract in the light of Idealist's 8.
Not the GOP'ers, you understand, but I ought to have been more precise with the jibe.
Sorry.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:53 AM
Don't apologize, Austro. We can work a good cop/bad cop thing here to convert Idealist to the One True Path of Democracy.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 7:57 AM
That would be a shining path, would it? :)
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:01 AM
With enough floppy hats and sunscreen, no need to worry about the ozone layer. Of course, the water from the former polar ice caps will lapping around our ankles...or am I mixing up ecological disasters?
Posted by bill | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:03 AM
Why does this good cop/bad cop thing always have to be so binary? Why can't interrogations have disengaged cops, self-absorbed cops, neutral cops and passive-agressive cops in the mix?
Posted by I don't pay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:03 AM
Actually Idealist's The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather has set me wondering about the Dutch (it is a slow day, dontchaknow) and their propensity for building cities where you might not expect to find one. I guess, having made such a hit with Amsterdam, they felt that Nieuw Amsterdam ought to be a breeze.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:05 AM
Fireman cops, construction-worker cops, Indian cops…
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:06 AM
Actually Idealist's The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather has set me wondering about the Dutch (it is a slow day, dontchaknow) and their propensity for building cities where you might not expect to find one.
Hey! New York is perhaps the finest natural site for a city on the planet. We have a huge and well protected harbor, a long navigable river leading inland, incredibly fertile farmland on all sides (Jersey could probably feed the rest of the US if you moved all the people out of it, stable bedrock ideal for building on -- what more do you want?
so that my best guess as to why I seem to burn more now is that I'm less tanned to start with these days.
Doesn't work for me, I've never been tanned at all. Just various shades of pink and freckled.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:13 AM
The fruit stand guy has taken his perch in front of my office building for the season again today! That makes me happy. It really is Spring now.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:14 AM
12: For the last time people: It is received wisdom, it says here, that there is no ecological disaster and any attempt to prove otherwise is necessarily unscientific. Got it?
Any unseasonal sunburns, are entirely your own problem.
Skin Cancer rates in Australia? Statistically inpept studies, see above.
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:15 AM
New York is perhaps the finest natural site for a city on the planet.
Perhaps true. But it still has the world's worst weather.
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:17 AM
Heh. The NY Times had a story on the Wiggles (Australian little-kid band, for the non-parents) and Sally was looking at the picture and asking what was wrong with them. It took me a minute to figure out what she meant, and then I realized "Sun damage. That's why you wear sunscreen, so you don't end up looking like the Wiggles."
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:17 AM
16: Around the rocks (which create their own problem) were marshes, no? And as for the climate... well.. hey its a marvellous harbour!
Posted by Austro | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:18 AM
I walked on that newish Hudson River promenade from Battery Park to 14th Street yesterday. It was pretty fantastic.
Right now, though, looks like rain.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:28 AM
Asperger cop reporting for duty, with my very long truncheon.
92 degrees in Dallas yesterday, we have been averaging 20+ degrees above normal for six months now. Summer is looking scarey and expensive. 115-120 will kill ya.
I am a natural redhead and used to burn a lot. After years in Texas and daily dog walks, I don't burn any more. Not dark, but I guess brown enough.
Posted by bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:37 AM
Ok, the New York Times website is completely freaking me out.
(WTF? No more Times New Roman???)
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:38 AM
I'm good with cloud cover for today, really. (Not so much for me, given that I'm, obviously, indoors, but for Sally. She didn't get burned as badly as I did, having inherited some melanin from Buck, but she got fairly pink as well.)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:39 AM
Some say that the ozone layer has become shriller since September 11, but in fact the blame lies with the Clenis.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:40 AM
Oops. Forgot the .com.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:40 AM
Graham IM'd me today, all like, "OMG, have you seen the Times?!"
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:36 AM
First color photographs, now this.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:41 AM
When I saw the new Times last night and freaked out, I almost posted about it here and then thought "Naah. I'll just put the post on my personal site. Really, how many people are going to get as worked up about this as me?"
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:43 AM
28: Oh my God, I'm going to have to read it, and I'm going to be all freaked out by the typeface, and is it going to make me feel bathed in stodginess and GOP spin like the old Times does? Odds are pretty darn slim.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:44 AM
In fact, the Clenis pierced the delicate ozone layer, and that's what made the hole. Then it rained, and the raindrops turned our litmus paper red. This is why we all have to shun the ozone layer, much as it pains us.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:44 AM
I like the new NYT.com; you are all hidebound and reactionary.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:46 AM
The new Times is very disturbing.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:49 AM
I would not go so far as to call the new NYT website an overall improvement, but it's not so bad--some things are better; I just find it a bit harder to read.
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:55 AM
Naah. I'll just put the post on my personal site.
Because ... Unfogged is your professional site?
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 9:59 AM
"personal site" meaning "site where I can write inane crap without caring whether anyone else would be interested".
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:06 AM
As opposed to the inane crap I write here that may occasionally interest others.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:07 AM
I have to say, the inane crap on your blog looks every bit as good as the inane crap here.
Posted by slolernr | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:16 AM
I guess I'm the only one who checks the "hands off my fonts, evildoers" box in my browser. But having let the evildoers have their way with me for a spell, I have to say good riddance to Times New Roman, the least screen-friendly font in common use. (Compare Comic Sans, the most microwaving-your-pets font in common use.)
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:16 AM
SB and me, forming the vanguard of the New Revolution. Which will not be covered in Times New Roman.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:23 AM
I type all my professional correspondence in Comic Sans.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:27 AM
I guess I'm the only one who checks the "hands off my fonts, evildoers" box in my browser.
I used to do that but grew tired of the conflicts it seemed to cause with websites whose designers counted on their text being a particular width and height.
I still keep the "hands off my foreground and background colors" box checked, though. It makes sites like Fafblog! be remarkably closer to work-safe.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:31 AM
I'm partial to Estrangelo Edessa.
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:31 AM
I seal all my professional correspondence inside a dead goat.
I thought the preferred method was to tatoo the correspondence onto the shaved scalp of your slave, then allow his hair to grow back before sending him you your addressee, who would reshave the scalp to read the message.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:33 AM
(a Gillette(tm) Fusion(tm) may come in handy for such professional correspondence.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:35 AM
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Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:38 AM
Another person who thought "wtf! The NYT redesigned their site?!?" I didn't much like the old design, to be fair, but the new one is worse.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 10:58 AM
The sun need not be stronger, if you've spent the winter in grey New York sans sunshine, and this was the first time out and you have pale skin like I do.
I once burned at a football game where it was drizzling and overcast.
And now I can't find anything on the NYT frontpage because the font is so tiny.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 11:19 AM
The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather
Oh, please.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 11:37 AM
We are witnessing the decline and fall of the Times New Roman empire.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 12:04 PM
Also, I think susceptibility can change with age. At least, I burn more easily than I did when I was a kid.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 12:29 PM
Or the ozone layer has disappeared. (oh, probably not, but indulge my paranoia.)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 12:41 PM
Or maybe air quality is getting better.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 12:50 PM
re: 51
Are you disputing that New York has the world's worst weather or that there is only one upside to this fact?
Sure, there is slight exaggeration here; I have visited a lot of places, and I have seen worse weather (the DMZ in Korea in the winter--so cold the diesel fuel in our trucks froze--and summer in Saudi Arabia--the worst day actually was in early fall when it was 99 degrees and foggy). That said, taken as a whole and looking at the entire year--the weather in New York sucks!
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 12:51 PM
The gaps in ozone layer are occuring, so far in the Southern Hemisphere. But by analogy to Franklin's elegant soap-drop-in-calm-water experiment, where he was able to approximate Avogadro's number, it should start at least thinning, and maybe breaking up elsewhere. Maybe the hole on the 40th parallel will be named after you.
Posted by I don't pay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 12:52 PM
the weather in New York sucks!
Yesterday was lovely, and there's almost always a very nice week or two in late September or early October. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:06 PM
re: 58
Thank you for making my point. Actually, I would say that the nice part of fall can last over a month, and fall in New York can be wonderful.
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:12 PM
I'm disputing that NYC has the worst weather in the world, and even if it did, there would be more than one upside.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:15 PM
fall in New York can be wonderful
Why does it seem so inviting?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:16 PM
Are we measuring worst by intensity of bad weather or by infrequency of good weather?
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:17 PM
61:
Personally, I like New York in June. How about you?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:22 PM
There's nothing like old Memphis in June.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:26 PM
New York has an amazing brainwashing ability that reminds me of what they say about childbirth (how you immediately forget how awful it was once it's over or you'd never go through it again). Every time it's windy and bitter during the winter and I'm sloshing through six inches of slush, all I can think about is how if I just get through it, I'll have a lovely New York summer to enjoy, with picnics in the park and such. Then summer rolls around and you remember that it's hot and sticky and disgusting and picnics in the park are far outnumbered by sweaty mornings stuck between stations in a 100 degree subway car and all you can think of is if you just get through the unbearable summer you'll have a beautiful New York winter where everything is covered in a lovely layer of white snow and the holiday decorations are up and...
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:26 PM
Why does it seem so inviting?
Many reasons, best explained here
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:29 PM
The only song I know of about the weather in the current Weinerville.
Maybe I should go for my hometown.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 1:34 PM
Hell, I got sunburned in February. My tribe is not meant to be outside in the sun, ever.
Posted by KJ | Link to this comment | 04- 3-06 8:15 PM