I am 100% positive the "a posteriori" thing is a homo joke, just like "But[t]-it's the only thing he has." I'm really hoping he shows up in the comments; he's already made appearances at LG&M and Obsidian Wings.
JW-- holy shit, I missed that butt joke. That would make sense of why the "but" is there, since she's not disagreeing with what he says in the last panel.
Also, the guy is clearly to the right of the girl, but the shadows on the girl indicate the sun a bit to the right, but the shadows on the guy indicate the sun getting low on the left. Geez.
Muir hires out the graphics. The characters are a palette of computer-drawn pieces that he can assemble into a strip and print, and he contracts out for more characters or more poses of existing characters as required. He only originates the dialogue. Such as it is.
And I was giving him credit for at least being a barely competent, obsessive letch. Sheesh.
Yeah, David Rees uses clip art to humorous effect.
But here's what gets me: it's one thing to express what's on one's own diseased mind. It's quite another to outsource it. "Ah, yes, could you draw me some cartoons of women as they might appear to an oversexed 14 year old?"
Judging by panel 3, the red-haired-winger-vixen appears to be talking out of her spine. Unless a talking horsefly has landed on her back. That seems more probable. Bite her! bite her!
Also, what the fuck is a unique cant? Cant is shared by definition.
she's trying to feed the towel into her ear. also, the "unique cant" thing is probably just setting us up for some late Wittgenstein private language jokes from a semi-nude co-ed.
It's funny that Sullivan's "cant" is unique, since Sullivan is just linking to one of the other blogs that discusses the idiocy of "Kantian nihilism" and Muir knows this, having commented both there and at ObWi.
I just don't understand how philosophy and language have become appropriate substrata for whatever stupid corrosively reductive method these fuckwads want to employ. The rightwingers do better when they're appealing directly to the stupid, rather than appealing to the stupid who like to make sounds with their mouths related to the history of ideas.
I guess I don't think of anyone here as a "right winger." I mean RW as those who care more about "winning" than about people, more about adherence to some prescribed set of ideas than about how politics actually affects human life. It's like a club who all laugh at each other's jokes no matter how sexist or racist they are because what's most important is their own triumphalism over hundreds of years of progressive thought.
That is to say, I'd be mortified to discover I'd misdescribed a philosopher's ideas. I like being corrected. That's why I hang out here with the moderates who'd rather be correct than faithful to a party.
No, baa and Ideal are crazy. But I think baa has spent most of his life in Boston, and that's excuse enough for more or less anything. And Ideal...having survived the near-breakup of the nation, the Depression, two World Wars, and now the complete refutation of conservative ideas, time has worn him away, until all that's left is what's hard.
Over caution may be silly, but it's harmless. Extended discussion of the topic leads to undercaution. We're still very far from a discretion error, but probably best to drop the subject.
I wait for the inevitable random Chris Muir generator.
Posted by strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:13 AM
Awesome, awesome comment from Roy Edroso: "'The United Nations is a fag' has a mad genius "Andrew Sullivan's a fag" lacks."
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:25 AM
I am 100% positive the "a posteriori" thing is a homo joke, just like "But[t]-it's the only thing he has." I'm really hoping he shows up in the comments; he's already made appearances at LG&M and Obsidian Wings.
Posted by jw | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:33 AM
clowna, right you are about the UN.
JW-- holy shit, I missed that butt joke. That would make sense of why the "but" is there, since she's not disagreeing with what he says in the last panel.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:38 AM
Alleged Muir comments here.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:41 AM
Oy vey. Men who are obsessed with other men's gayness. I can never figure that one out.
Posted by NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:43 AM
I still want to know why that guy is masturbating so slowly.
Posted by alameida | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:51 AM
to draw out the pleasure of masturbatin' while discussing andrew sullivan and making gay anal sex references.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:59 AM
He can't help himself, alameida. He's erotically charged merely by being exposed to such intellectual prowess.
Posted by strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 12:02 PM
Duh. Only a Peter puffer would waste time drawing men.
Posted by Sven | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 12:09 PM
Also, the guy is clearly to the right of the girl, but the shadows on the girl indicate the sun a bit to the right, but the shadows on the guy indicate the sun getting low on the left. Geez.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 12:16 PM
From Roy's place:
And I was giving him credit for at least being a barely competent, obsessive letch. Sheesh.
Posted by Sven | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:01 PM
That makes so much more sense.
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:17 PM
Well, the dinosaur comic uses exactly the same drawings every single time, and that's cool.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:18 PM
Right but it's funny.
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:23 PM
Also, the using of the same clip art is, like, part of the joke.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:33 PM
I have issues with clip art comics. I figure if you're not putting any effort into the art, the text better be really fucking hilarious.
Posted by strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:36 PM
Yeah, David Rees uses clip art to humorous effect.
But here's what gets me: it's one thing to express what's on one's own diseased mind. It's quite another to outsource it. "Ah, yes, could you draw me some cartoons of women as they might appear to an oversexed 14 year old?"
Posted by Sven | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:38 PM
Trudeau also doesn't do his own drawings. He took a break in the eighties and when he came back Doonesberry looked a lot different.
Posted by joe o | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:55 PM
I thought he still drew them, he just had someone to ink the pencil drawings.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 1:57 PM
maybe:
They both work hard. Carlton draws one week of strips at a time, each three times larger than they appear in the paper. He spends about two hours per daily strip, or 12 hours a week, actually drawing. The Sunday strip takes four to five hours to render and color. In addition, the two men are in touch by phone several times a week to talk over concepts and each pencil sketch that Trudeau has mailed to Kansas City.
Posted by joe o | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 2:17 PM
Huh. You notice that story's from 1982? So it can't be about something that happened after Trudeau's hiatus.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 2:37 PM
I always dress in lime green bikinii when discussing Kant.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 2:44 PM
Show us your noumena!
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 2:51 PM
Judging by panel 3, the red-haired-winger-vixen appears to be talking out of her spine. Unless a talking horsefly has landed on her back. That seems more probable. Bite her! bite her!
Also, what the fuck is a unique cant? Cant is shared by definition.
Posted by mcmc | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 3:23 PM
I was wrong about when Carlton started inking Doonesberry. It apparently started a few years after trudeau started with a sydicated strip.
This article says the practice of uncredited art help is pretty common for cartoonists.
Posted by joe o | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 3:58 PM
I am disturbed by the guy touching himself and the woman talking into her towel as if it's a cellphone.
Posted by Doodle Bean | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 7:35 PM
she's trying to feed the towel into her ear. also, the "unique cant" thing is probably just setting us up for some late Wittgenstein private language jokes from a semi-nude co-ed.
Posted by alameida | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:03 PM
It's funny that Sullivan's "cant" is unique, since Sullivan is just linking to one of the other blogs that discusses the idiocy of "Kantian nihilism" and Muir knows this, having commented both there and at ObWi.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:07 PM
I just don't understand how philosophy and language have become appropriate substrata for whatever stupid corrosively reductive method these fuckwads want to employ. The rightwingers do better when they're appealing directly to the stupid, rather than appealing to the stupid who like to make sounds with their mouths related to the history of ideas.
Posted by A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:08 PM
Idealist and baa, read that as "Chris Muir-type right wingers do better when..."
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:10 PM
I guess I don't think of anyone here as a "right winger." I mean RW as those who care more about "winning" than about people, more about adherence to some prescribed set of ideas than about how politics actually affects human life. It's like a club who all laugh at each other's jokes no matter how sexist or racist they are because what's most important is their own triumphalism over hundreds of years of progressive thought.
Posted by A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:15 PM
That is to say, I'd be mortified to discover I'd misdescribed a philosopher's ideas. I like being corrected. That's why I hang out here with the moderates who'd rather be correct than faithful to a party.
Posted by A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:22 PM
No, baa and Ideal are crazy. But I think baa has spent most of his life in Boston, and that's excuse enough for more or less anything. And Ideal...having survived the near-breakup of the nation, the Depression, two World Wars, and now the complete refutation of conservative ideas, time has worn him away, until all that's left is what's hard.
(Are neither of you reading?)
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:30 PM
I think they've stopped commenting on the political threads.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:32 PM
The Civil War was traumatic for Idealist.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 9:46 PM
H/ol/bo's got something nice up at CT. I think. I don't really understand it. But it sounds like he's peeing on Muir.
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-21-06 11:23 PM
We're googleproofing John Holbo's name now? Even when he's simply being referred to in his capacity as a CT blogger?
Posted by str/sm/ngelo j/nes | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 6:03 AM
I wasn't sure, and thought "better safe than sorry."
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 8:01 AM
Over caution may be silly, but it's harmless. Extended discussion of the topic leads to undercaution. We're still very far from a discretion error, but probably best to drop the subject.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 8:05 AM
Idealist and baa, read that as "Chris Muir-type right wingers do better when..."
Thanks, w/d. Of course, I know why w/d is being nice all of a sudden, but I won't tell.
all that's left is what's hard.
Sounds like an ad for a porn movie. Thanks, I guess.
The Civil War was traumatic for Idealist.
True, but being older than I am, JE, you would be in a position to know.
OK, all you Kantian nihlists get off my lawn, damn it. I have to get some work done.
Posted by Idealist | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 8:28 AM
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of Kant.
BTW, eb totally wins over at CT.
Posted by OnFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 8:31 AM
True, but being older than I am, JE, you would be in a position to know.
I'm still kind of browned off at JE over the three-fifths compromise.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 9:07 AM
Over caution may be silly, but it's harmless.
We stand at the top of a slippery slope, LB, and at the bottom is nothing but /// /////// //////.
Posted by strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 9:31 AM
It is just as well that Muir hasn't stopped off at Unfogged.
He's a flake but wouldn't have brought pastry.
FYC
Posted by md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 9:41 AM
Flaky pastry is the best.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 10:02 AM
Isn't that comment missing a link?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07-22-06 10:12 AM