I wasn't present at the previous one -- did AWB's 35th street bar work out well? Another place in the 30's that is supposed to be good is Gingerman; also Under the Volcano.
Speaking of which -- if you are the person I was talking to at Bohemian Beer Garden who was telling me about a semi-regular meetup at Gingerman, I have forgotten who you were and the meetup details you provided me with. Care to recapitulate?
That's an interesting case. If you were addressing a single person and said, "If you were the one who told me about a semi-regular meetup at the Gingerman, I've forgotten the details about the meetup," it would be a straight-up biscuit conditional. As it is, it combines that bit of biscuit conditionality with some peculiar features of a speech act directed to the multitudes; Andy Egan uses the example of (approx.) a motivational speaker saying to an auditorium full of people, "You have the power to take control of your life, even if the rest of these schmucks don't." And "I've forgotten who you were" is an interesting locution, since it clearly doesn't mean "I've forgotten who you, the person I'm speaking to, are" but "I've forgotten who was telling me." Combine all this, and I'm not sure whether it is a biscuit conditional or something weirder.
It was Scott Lemeiux of LGM, the semi-regular meetup is on Mondays at 6 at the Gingerman, IIRC. And the Gingerman would be a fine place for Teofest 2006 as well.
*delurking*
Gingerman/Under the Volcano are actually quite good choices for that stretch of neighborhood, especially for the beer snobs. Also, most of the bars around there end up full of the irritating post-frat-boy midtown professional types -- this is much less the case at GM/UtV.
7: Eh, no reason why we couldn't round some people up for a drink after work. Idealist should be back in town by then, so if he can make it you'll have some ideological company.
8: No reason a lurker shouldn't show up, if you'd like. If this were meant to be private, we'd do it by email.
The Gingerman is on 36th St. between 5th Ave. and Madison Ave. (this is very close to Penn Station and PATH trains to NJ if that's how you're getting back and forth). Under the Volcano is right next door. The Web site should have directions to both.
Also: does anybody know if The Gingerman is named after the Donleavey novel of the same name, or is the similarity of names a coincidence? Is there any relationship between the books The Gingerman and Under the Volcano (which latter I have not read)?
Clown. @ 16: Yeah it is as far as I know; I think the MNH pub offshoot of the original in Dublin (there's also a Ginger Man in Houston, which I went to often when my girlfriend was living there, and which is also connected). Under the Volcano, which is owned by the same folks and is next door, is also named after the Lowry novel (and hence the mexican/tequila theme).
I am not in the paid employ of either of these places, so I'm not sure why I know this.
I do not know if either of these places has outdoor tables, but it occurred to me that what might be pleasant seating on a cool May evening might be a rather sticky, humid experience in early August in the armpit that is midtown Manhattan.
Let's go with a nice, round number--six o'clock. Is somebody going to post the finalized info, so that putzes like me will have no excuse for getting lost/being late/wandering into the wrong bar and shouting "Who wants to sex Motombo"?
Dang. Not that I'm in any position to come down to NYC (though it would only be 2-3 hours of driving..... rationalize, rationalize, rationalize), or any kind of a regular, but I *am* a beer snob, and Gingerman has been on the to-do list for a while.
Hey a special treat is in store for those who arrive on the early side, i.e. between 6 and 7 -- my female companions will be on hand to receive your adulation and sign autographs.
I wasn't present at the previous one -- did AWB's 35th street bar work out well? Another place in the 30's that is supposed to be good is Gingerman; also Under the Volcano.
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 4:58 AM
Speaking of which -- if you are the person I was talking to at Bohemian Beer Garden who was telling me about a semi-regular meetup at Gingerman, I have forgotten who you were and the meetup details you provided me with. Care to recapitulate?
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 4:59 AM
(How's that for a biscuit conditional, Ttam?
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 5:00 AM
That's an interesting case. If you were addressing a single person and said, "If you were the one who told me about a semi-regular meetup at the Gingerman, I've forgotten the details about the meetup," it would be a straight-up biscuit conditional. As it is, it combines that bit of biscuit conditionality with some peculiar features of a speech act directed to the multitudes; Andy Egan uses the example of (approx.) a motivational speaker saying to an auditorium full of people, "You have the power to take control of your life, even if the rest of these schmucks don't." And "I've forgotten who you were" is an interesting locution, since it clearly doesn't mean "I've forgotten who you, the person I'm speaking to, are" but "I've forgotten who was telling me." Combine all this, and I'm not sure whether it is a biscuit conditional or something weirder.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 6:42 AM
A McMuffin conditional, maybe.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 7:03 AM
It was Scott Lemeiux of LGM, the semi-regular meetup is on Mondays at 6 at the Gingerman, IIRC. And the Gingerman would be a fine place for Teofest 2006 as well.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 8:10 AM
Aww, I'll be in NY August 12-16... no way for another meet up, huh?
Posted by Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 8:36 AM
*delurking*
Gingerman/Under the Volcano are actually quite good choices for that stretch of neighborhood, especially for the beer snobs. Also, most of the bars around there end up full of the irritating post-frat-boy midtown professional types -- this is much less the case at GM/UtV.
Posted by Carl | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 8:38 AM
7: Eh, no reason why we couldn't round some people up for a drink after work. Idealist should be back in town by then, so if he can make it you'll have some ideological company.
8: No reason a lurker shouldn't show up, if you'd like. If this were meant to be private, we'd do it by email.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 10:14 AM
Thanks, LB!
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 10:20 AM
Okay, so where are these places exactly?
(Thanks everybody.)
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 11:23 AM
The Gingerman is on 36th St. between 5th Ave. and Madison Ave. (this is very close to Penn Station and PATH trains to NJ if that's how you're getting back and forth). Under the Volcano is right next door. The Web site should have directions to both.
Posted by Carl | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 11:37 AM
The Gingerman looks good to me.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 11:50 AM
Cool! what about the time? I would get over there around 5:30. Is 5:30 or 6 good for everyone?
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 1:09 PM
I'll be later than that, but no one should schedule around me.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 1:11 PM
Also: does anybody know if The Gingerman is named after the Donleavey novel of the same name, or is the similarity of names a coincidence? Is there any relationship between the books The Gingerman and Under the Volcano (which latter I have not read)?
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 1:12 PM
Any time is good for me.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 1:20 PM
Clown. @ 16: Yeah it is as far as I know; I think the MNH pub offshoot of the original in Dublin (there's also a Ginger Man in Houston, which I went to often when my girlfriend was living there, and which is also connected). Under the Volcano, which is owned by the same folks and is next door, is also named after the Lowry novel (and hence the mexican/tequila theme).
I am not in the paid employ of either of these places, so I'm not sure why I know this.
Posted by Carl | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 1:43 PM
I do not know if either of these places has outdoor tables, but it occurred to me that what might be pleasant seating on a cool May evening might be a rather sticky, humid experience in early August in the armpit that is midtown Manhattan.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 2:27 PM
They're both indoors.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 3:33 PM
Let's go with a nice, round number--six o'clock. Is somebody going to post the finalized info, so that putzes like me will have no excuse for getting lost/being late/wandering into the wrong bar and shouting "Who wants to sex Motombo"?
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 4:01 PM
Six sounds good. I'll post the final info a couple days in advance.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 4:21 PM
Dang. Not that I'm in any position to come down to NYC (though it would only be 2-3 hours of driving..... rationalize, rationalize, rationalize), or any kind of a regular, but I *am* a beer snob, and Gingerman has been on the to-do list for a while.
Posted by Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07-30-06 10:32 PM
Hey a special treat is in store for those who arrive on the early side, i.e. between 6 and 7 -- my female companions will be on hand to receive your adulation and sign autographs.
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 08- 1-06 3:53 AM
Oh and Felix, will you be present? I am longing to meet you.
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 08- 1-06 5:58 AM