instead of "really cool" that should probably be "the height of cool" since surely what's bugging Reynolds is the idea that the cool kids could consider anything cooler than the conservative lawyer/republican look.
There's gonna be a war. There is gonna be a war with Iran. A War with Iran and a lot of Americans are gonna die and the economy tank and the world will hate us.
MY oughta think over what he says. The "Democratic Leadership" does.
Also, does he wear anything under those open-necked shirts? I hate going without the undershirt, but I don't like the white gleam of the hanes peeking out from under the open neck.
Did anyone else notice someone not from around here dropping the term Saiselgy in that thread? I would have been interested in the falafel discussion that got interrupted.
Ogged, I was going to cross-post it here if no one noticed. Did you see this?
I never thought you were worth reading Yglesias because you were just a punk kid with little life experience giving out opinions. Looks like I've been right.
I think Dennis Farina should say that on the next Law & Order.
I don't get it. I've worn undershirts, and on other occasions I have worn shirts -- are you suggesting I ought to have worn both of them at once? Seems like a bit much.
There are two items of clothing that strike me as having been foisted on an unsuspecting populace by sadistic haberdashers and lingerie shops: The tie and pantyhose. What's with this slavery to items that were clearly intended to be used only if the fan belt on one's car broke on a deserted road at 2am?? [Or as a garrotte, but I'm full of the Yoplait of human kindness right now and wouldn't want to suggest anything else than could be banned on an airplane.]
T-shirts, otoh, can be used to bundle up tiny, shivering kittens; there is nothing more manly than stripping down in the name of felinatarianism. And silken petticoats can be torn into strips to bind the bloody wounds of manly men who have been savaged by said tiny shivering kittens' tiny shivs of claws.
[Aha! Claws sounds like Claus; ergo, kittens = Satan]
UPDATE: Apparently, the smart pills are in short supply. And yes, I realize that Yglesias was goofing, as was I. These people, alas, seem to be entirely serious.
Speaking of undergarments, today a large package of high-end, fashionable womens underwear that was intended for some boutique or whatever in Antwerp was instead delivered from Italy to--our offices! Hilarity ensued.
This probably won't surprise anyone, but I haven't worn a tie in 20+ years, and probably not more than 10x in 40 years. The Mennonites are right about that one, at lease.
I only go to the lower-tier funerals any more. The really classy funerals won't let me in. (I don't go to any weddings at all, of course).
I wear undershirts with my dress shirts to work, and do not wear ties with them, thus display that little V of white (or black, depending on the dress shirt) at the neck. FL is right, it's all about the chest hair. I have zero desire to look like I've stumbled out of the bar after losing my big, gold chains.
However, I kind of think the neckline of the t-shirt is cute in a sloppy-prep kind of way. I should just go ahead and register Republican, shouldn't I?
36: Tsk. I hate buttoning the top two buttons of a shirt. It makes me feel stuffy. Besides, I'm a networking guy. Professional nerds are expected to be sloppy. If I showed up in slacks, my shirt tucked in, my buttons buttoned, my boss would assume I just came from an interview with a better company.
Also, my neck is made of hair - I keep a spare house key and my loose change in its luxurious folds - but that's beside the point.
The top button, of course, must remain undone, unless you are falsely confessing to an infamous child murder.
I often leave the second button undone as well, and risk showing a bit of flaxen chest hair. But I look British, and will continue to get away with it.
I find it hard to believe that anyone wears dress shirts sans undershirt (other than to a nightclub). I see it with my own two eyes every day, but the thought of doing it myself gives me the willies. As far as I'm concerned it is completely unsanitary (metaphorically speaking). You might as well drop the underwear and the socks while you're at it.
There is nothing incorrect or unfashionable about the top of your undershirt peeking out from your unbuttoned shirt collar. ESPECIALLY if the alternative is for chest hair to peek out.
As I am blessed with a hairless upper chest, I generally wear no undershirt when going for a more formal look, and an undershirt when I'm in casual mode.
There is nothing incorrect or unfashionable about the top of your undershirt peeking out from your unbuttoned shirt collar. ESPECIALLY if the alternative is for chest hair to peek out.
I really kinda hate the visible undershirt. Don't they make V-necks, to avoid the whole problem? And I don't mind a discreet amount of visible chest hair, as long as it's not a freakish amount of it, in which case the undershirt isn't hiding it.
The problem with the undershirt is that, while it might protect your overshirt from sweat, the extra layer means you sweat more, so it's probably a wash in the end, except you've sweated more, and sweating sucks.
I'm not at all sure this is true. And when you do sweat, it's not visible to the whole world because the undershirt absorbs it. Pools of wet in the underarms are not sexy. Especially when combined with sweaty chest hairs, poking out of your collar.
55 doesn't get it right. I have chest hair enough to suffocate a small child. It's just not sanitary to go without an undershirt. Unless I wanted to wash my shirts after each and every wearing.
I ride the subway, which is rather like a sauna in the summer. And I have a long walk outdoors to and from. I'd be fine in the ac all day, but I'd be a mess by the time I got there.
67- okay ben, it's true that if you sweat like a gorilla perhaps not even your undershirt can contain it. But that only exacerbates the undershirtless problem, no?
Wearing an undershirt, even an undershirt that shows at the top of the dress shirt, is vastly preferable to wearing sweat stains. Nothing, nothing is grosser.
I laughed at this comment on Matt's thread before I saw who wrote it. Say what you like about Jim Rome, but that thing where people send in emails signed by other people or abstract concepts-- a laff riot.
Dear Instapundit readers,
Please get Glenn to open comments at his site, so we can join together every day for merriment.
I'm off to the gym, the one place it's ok to sweat, but I did want to say, yes, visible sweat on dress shirts is gross. Yet again, Armsmasher gets it right. Still, the exposed undershirt is bad. Solution: switch to v-neck + wax.
Don't normal people call the Boston mass transit the 'T'? I can't think of another American city where it's 'the subway' -- SF has BART, Chicago has the El, Boston has the T... where else is there?
79- I suppose you're right, most normal people do call it the T. But that's a stupid fucking thing to call it, so I don't (when I can help it).
Perhaps I should mention that I'm actually a 13-year-old girl in rural Oklahoma. Middle-school! Woot!! All those other details of my life are part of an elaborate fantasy, in which I am older and sophisticateder and male.
My wife, a life-long Chicagoan, calls it the subway to differentiate it from other lines on the same system that are above ground. Downtown, red line = subway.
The DC Metro is not infrequently called the subway, at least by me.
In regards to button-down shirts, in casual contexts I will wear them with something closer to a regular t-shirt in lieu of an undershirt, leaving the top two buttons undone. The button-down is more of an overshirt for me. When actually dressed up (tie, etc.) I wear an undershirt, as otherwise I become a sweaty mess.
And I am not getting "sweat stains"? Do we actually mean wet spots? Are you kidding, wet shirts are gross? In Dallas, I usually go thru 5 shirts a day.
And I am glad Saisegly showed up to unconfuse me. Now I am just insulted, which is what I come here for.
63: a) Nair; b) Why wouldn't you wash a shirt directly after wearing it?
79: And in LA, we call it the "hasn't been built yet because of all those nasty pockets of methane gas and even those parts that are built are overcrowded and driven by people who escaped from Napa State, but that's OK because we all have cars except the poor people and kids trying to get to school." Besides, the Red Line clearly belongs to Satan.
I just find it strange that someone could confuse those two names, which actually sound quite different (in Arabic, at least; I don't know about Farsi).
Glenn's really just mad b/c he wishes it weren't so. "Clean-shaven with a big tie is REALLY COOL, GODDAMIT!!"
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:05 PM
Post ~wordy.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:09 PM
instead of "really cool" that should probably be "the height of cool" since surely what's bugging Reynolds is the idea that the cool kids could consider anything cooler than the conservative lawyer/republican look.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:14 PM
There's gonna be a war. There is gonna be a war with Iran. A War with Iran and a lot of Americans are gonna die and the economy tank and the world will hate us.
MY oughta think over what he says. The "Democratic Leadership" does.
Posted by bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:26 PM
Thanks, Ogged; that's one sweet thread MY has going on.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:28 PM
Also, does he wear anything under those open-necked shirts? I hate going without the undershirt, but I don't like the white gleam of the hanes peeking out from under the open neck.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:29 PM
Go without the undershirt, FL. You don't need it. The truth will set you free.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:34 PM
get yourself some wife-beaters
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:35 PM
You could wear a v-neck t-shirt.
Did anyone else notice someone not from around here dropping the term Saiselgy in that thread? I would have been interested in the falafel discussion that got interrupted.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:36 PM
text, that's haram, and I will now saw off your head. It feels gross and unclean to go dress-shirt only.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:40 PM
you mean, it feels sexy? yes it does.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:43 PM
Ogged, if you sit around reading Insty you're just going to give yourself cancer in all your other waste-removal organs, too.
Posted by Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:44 PM
Really, FL, undershirts are for SAEs at southern universities, and more largely, men who take more showers than is healthful.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:46 PM
Self-addressed envelopes?
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:50 PM
I like that clean, fresh feeling, text. Also I don't want the chest hair involved, you know?
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:51 PM
But Hugo Chavez is right; George Bush is the Devil. "George" has six letters and "Satan" has five, so if we just leave off one letter...
Posted by DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:52 PM
I see you've done good work in that thread yourself, Labs.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:53 PM
Serious Adverse Events?
Posted by Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:55 PM
Ogged, I was going to cross-post it here if no one noticed. Did you see this?
I think Dennis Farina should say that on the next Law & Order.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:56 PM
I don't get it. I've worn undershirts, and on other occasions I have worn shirts -- are you suggesting I ought to have worn both of them at once? Seems like a bit much.
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 1:56 PM
God, Insty has the best readers. He should totally open comments, especially now that we don't have Fafblog.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:00 PM
There are two items of clothing that strike me as having been foisted on an unsuspecting populace by sadistic haberdashers and lingerie shops: The tie and pantyhose. What's with this slavery to items that were clearly intended to be used only if the fan belt on one's car broke on a deserted road at 2am?? [Or as a garrotte, but I'm full of the Yoplait of human kindness right now and wouldn't want to suggest anything else than could be banned on an airplane.]
T-shirts, otoh, can be used to bundle up tiny, shivering kittens; there is nothing more manly than stripping down in the name of felinatarianism. And silken petticoats can be torn into strips to bind the bloody wounds of manly men who have been savaged by said tiny shivering kittens' tiny shivs of claws.
[Aha! Claws sounds like Claus; ergo, kittens = Satan]
Posted by DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:02 PM
ogged, please tell me you were being sarcastic, and not actually praising that legion of humorless twits.
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:04 PM
I have always maintained that kittens = sanity.
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:05 PM
OK, Instant Pundit updates:
He's so dry.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:07 PM
Speaking of undergarments, today a large package of high-end, fashionable womens underwear that was intended for some boutique or whatever in Antwerp was instead delivered from Italy to--our offices! Hilarity ensued.
Posted by JL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:07 PM
This probably won't surprise anyone, but I haven't worn a tie in 20+ years, and probably not more than 10x in 40 years. The Mennonites are right about that one, at lease.
I only go to the lower-tier funerals any more. The really classy funerals won't let me in. (I don't go to any weddings at all, of course).
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:10 PM
Insty was kidding.
(I'm 42% serious about this comment.)
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:12 PM
ogged, please tell me you were being sarcastic, and not actually praising that legion of humorless twits.
Do you remember when we used to be friends, Standpipe?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:15 PM
Structure of purported joke: Yglesias is teh stupid. [Pause] Not!
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:15 PM
I wear undershirts with my dress shirts to work, and do not wear ties with them, thus display that little V of white (or black, depending on the dress shirt) at the neck. FL is right, it's all about the chest hair. I have zero desire to look like I've stumbled out of the bar after losing my big, gold chains.
However, I kind of think the neckline of the t-shirt is cute in a sloppy-prep kind of way. I should just go ahead and register Republican, shouldn't I?
Posted by Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:17 PM
ogged, it was pretending-not-to-get-humor humor, making fun of the people at Yglesias' who don't get humor.
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:20 PM
"I have zero desire to look like I've stumbled out of the bar after losing my big, gold chains."
But how am I supposed to look? And has anyone seen my big, gold chains?
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:21 PM
Do you remember when we used to be friends, Standpipe?
Come on, now, Sugar…
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:22 PM
Chesthair that peeks out of shirts is nasty.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:23 PM
Do you guys all have chest hair starting above the neck? I'm not saying, leave the top four buttons undone.
Either there's a hairy neck issue going on, or you should consider a smaller shirt size.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:23 PM
Come on, now, Sugar
Yay! Still friends!
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:24 PM
standpipe, I don't get your pretending-not-to-get-ogged's-humor humor. Can you post an explanation at your blog?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:25 PM
Glenn Reynolds is guestposting at SB's blog this week, Weiner.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:26 PM
For the, like, two of you who don't read my blog, 23 parodies this comment left during the instalanche.
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:29 PM
36: Tsk. I hate buttoning the top two buttons of a shirt. It makes me feel stuffy. Besides, I'm a networking guy. Professional nerds are expected to be sloppy. If I showed up in slacks, my shirt tucked in, my buttons buttoned, my boss would assume I just came from an interview with a better company.
Also, my neck is made of hair - I keep a spare house key and my loose change in its luxurious folds - but that's beside the point.
Posted by Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:29 PM
Ugh, links to Matt's comments don't work. It's the one that begins, "I see Matt reads his comments."
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:31 PM
Chesthair that peeks out of shirts is nasty.
Cala likes 13-year-old boys and men who button their shirts all the way up.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:32 PM
Glenn Reynolds is guestposting at SB's blog this week, Weiner.
It was the best I could do on short notice.
Posted by standpipe b | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:33 PM
The top button, of course, must remain undone, unless you are falsely confessing to an infamous child murder.
I often leave the second button undone as well, and risk showing a bit of flaxen chest hair. But I look British, and will continue to get away with it.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:34 PM
It's not just visible chest hair, it's chest hair that peeks and looks wild enough that it might decide to undo the buttons by itself.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:37 PM
Chesthair that peeks out of shirts is nasty.
Soon Cala will be telling us that bombing any Middle Eastern country is probably a good idea.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:37 PM
Come now. If it comes to bloodshed, it will be their own fault for not allowing U.N. cosmetologists to bring wax into the country.
Posted by Cala Imperatrix Mundi | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:41 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone wears dress shirts sans undershirt (other than to a nightclub). I see it with my own two eyes every day, but the thought of doing it myself gives me the willies. As far as I'm concerned it is completely unsanitary (metaphorically speaking). You might as well drop the underwear and the socks while you're at it.
There is nothing incorrect or unfashionable about the top of your undershirt peeking out from your unbuttoned shirt collar. ESPECIALLY if the alternative is for chest hair to peek out.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:42 PM
34: More Veronica Mars, yay!
As I am blessed with a hairless upper chest, I generally wear no undershirt when going for a more formal look, and an undershirt when I'm in casual mode.
Posted by mrh | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:43 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone wears dress shirts sans undershirt (other than to a nightclub).
Again, interesting to me. I didn't know that anyone other than recent immigrants still wore undershirts. Life in these United States, huh?
Posted by SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:47 PM
"You might as well drop the underwear and the socks while you're at it."
Well, yes, depending on the weather.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:47 PM
It's not just visible chest hair, it's chest hair that peeks and looks wild enough that it might decide to undo the buttons by itself.
Cala sounds just like my wife. Fortunately I have virtually no hair on my torso.
Posted by gswift | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:47 PM
There is nothing incorrect or unfashionable about the top of your undershirt peeking out from your unbuttoned shirt collar. ESPECIALLY if the alternative is for chest hair to peek out.
I really kinda hate the visible undershirt. Don't they make V-necks, to avoid the whole problem? And I don't mind a discreet amount of visible chest hair, as long as it's not a freakish amount of it, in which case the undershirt isn't hiding it.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:47 PM
Those "men" who hate on chest hair just aren't man enough to grow any.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:48 PM
but I'm full of the Yoplait of human kindness right now
"Yoplait of human kindness" might be even better than "pizazz".
Posted by gswift | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:51 PM
The problem with the undershirt is that, while it might protect your overshirt from sweat, the extra layer means you sweat more, so it's probably a wash in the end, except you've sweated more, and sweating sucks.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:52 PM
ben speaks truth. also, it feels confining and signals shame of body.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:55 PM
the extra layer means you sweat more,
I'm not at all sure this is true. And when you do sweat, it's not visible to the whole world because the undershirt absorbs it. Pools of wet in the underarms are not sexy. Especially when combined with sweaty chest hairs, poking out of your collar.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 2:58 PM
55 gets it right, but not exactly right, since " 'men' " should be "women and 'men' ".
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:00 PM
I wear undershirts for warmth and for no other reason. I've just started this past week for the first time since April. I don't like them to show.
Posted by I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:00 PM
Some of us work in air conditioned offices and aren't freakishly sweaty, Brock.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:01 PM
55 doesn't get it right. I have chest hair enough to suffocate a small child. It's just not sanitary to go without an undershirt. Unless I wanted to wash my shirts after each and every wearing.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:02 PM
Shave those armpits for less sweatiness.
Sweaty chest with a button down shirt? Are you on safari or something?
Posted by gswift | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:02 PM
I haven't seen one of these troll attacks in years.
And the comments around 40 have me seriously confused.
And I have chest hair that sticks out of my t-shirt. My dad had back hair you could comb.
Posted by bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:03 PM
Hmm. I do wash my shirts after each and every wearing.
Posted by I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:03 PM
I'm not at all sure this is true. And when you do sweat, it's not visible to the whole world because the undershirt absorbs it.
That all depends on how sweaty you are.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:04 PM
I ride the subway, which is rather like a sauna in the summer. And I have a long walk outdoors to and from. I'd be fine in the ac all day, but I'd be a mess by the time I got there.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:05 PM
67- okay ben, it's true that if you sweat like a gorilla perhaps not even your undershirt can contain it. But that only exacerbates the undershirtless problem, no?
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:07 PM
65: to clear up that confusion, I refer you to standpipe's blog.
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:09 PM
Just how much do you sweat, Ben?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:10 PM
Wearing an undershirt, even an undershirt that shows at the top of the dress shirt, is vastly preferable to wearing sweat stains. Nothing, nothing is grosser.
Posted by Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:11 PM
Brock, you're in NY? I hadn't realized.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:12 PM
it feels confining and signals shame of body.
And that's why it's obligatory.
I laughed at this comment on Matt's thread before I saw who wrote it. Say what you like about Jim Rome, but that thing where people send in emails signed by other people or abstract concepts-- a laff riot.
Dear Instapundit readers,
Please get Glenn to open comments at his site, so we can join together every day for merriment.
Sincerely,
The Very Image of The Left Today
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:12 PM
I'm off to the gym, the one place it's ok to sweat, but I did want to say, yes, visible sweat on dress shirts is gross. Yet again, Armsmasher gets it right. Still, the exposed undershirt is bad. Solution: switch to v-neck + wax.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:16 PM
Link from InstaPundit = big traffic. Honestly, I don't care about the context.
Posted by Wehttam Saiselgy | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:17 PM
73- no, Boston, why?
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:19 PM
As long as they spell my name backwards...
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:20 PM
Don't normal people call the Boston mass transit the 'T'? I can't think of another American city where it's 'the subway' -- SF has BART, Chicago has the El, Boston has the T... where else is there?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:21 PM
If undershirts are to keep sweat from staining your shirt, why do they have such baggy arm holes?
Posted by neil | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:21 PM
DC has the metro, but I think Los Angeles's metro is sometimes called the "subway" no?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:24 PM
and why do they develop holes in the armpit so easily?
Posted by text | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:26 PM
79- I suppose you're right, most normal people do call it the T. But that's a stupid fucking thing to call it, so I don't (when I can help it).
Perhaps I should mention that I'm actually a 13-year-old girl in rural Oklahoma. Middle-school! Woot!! All those other details of my life are part of an elaborate fantasy, in which I am older and sophisticateder and male.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:28 PM
Atlanta has MARTA, which I think they call MARTA.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:29 PM
I've never once had someone in Boston fail to understand what I meant when I said something about the "subway."
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:31 PM
I don't sweat very much unless I am wearing an even slightly dressy shirt.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:32 PM
My wife, a life-long Chicagoan, calls it the subway to differentiate it from other lines on the same system that are above ground. Downtown, red line = subway.
Posted by I don't pay | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:33 PM
The DC Metro is not infrequently called the subway, at least by me.
In regards to button-down shirts, in casual contexts I will wear them with something closer to a regular t-shirt in lieu of an undershirt, leaving the top two buttons undone. The button-down is more of an overshirt for me. When actually dressed up (tie, etc.) I wear an undershirt, as otherwise I become a sweaty mess.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:34 PM
I don't sweat much unless I see ben in an even slightly dressy shirt, but then OMG!!! I have to start fanning myself.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:34 PM
SON OF A BITCH! that came out wrong.
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:35 PM
90: Coming out is never easy, Brock.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:42 PM
Muni is to El as BART is to Metra.
HTH.
Posted by neil | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:43 PM
FL's comment over there wins the thread.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 3:46 PM
Brock is completely correct about undershirts and dress shirts, and the rest of you should stop embarrassing yourselves by disagreeing with him.
Posted by Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 4:29 PM
I never wear undershirts with dress shirts. Or at all, actually.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 4:33 PM
And I am not getting "sweat stains"? Do we actually mean wet spots? Are you kidding, wet shirts are gross? In Dallas, I usually go thru 5 shirts a day.
And I am glad Saisegly showed up to unconfuse me. Now I am just insulted, which is what I come here for.
Posted by bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 4:52 PM
One interesting thing about that thread is that Al correctly guesses the reason MY consistently misspells Ahmadinejad's first name.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 5:00 PM
Mmmm, falafel.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 5:01 PM
63: a) Nair; b) Why wouldn't you wash a shirt directly after wearing it?
79: And in LA, we call it the "hasn't been built yet because of all those nasty pockets of methane gas and even those parts that are built are overcrowded and driven by people who escaped from Napa State, but that's OK because we all have cars except the poor people and kids trying to get to school." Besides, the Red Line clearly belongs to Satan.
Posted by DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 5:43 PM
No, more interestingly is that I got falafel from that place today, before having opened that comment thread.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 5:45 PM
I just find it strange that someone could confuse those two names, which actually sound quite different (in Arabic, at least; I don't know about Farsi).
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 5:57 PM
I'm assuming Saiselgy doesn't speak either of those languages, though. Also, not that his homophone mixups always actually sound alike.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 6:53 PM
True, but they usually do.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 7:26 PM
b) Why wouldn't you wash a shirt directly after wearing it?
b/c washing wears out clothes.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 9:42 PM
You mean people actually wear undershirts so they don't have to wash their dress shirts? I guess that would be a reason to do it.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-21-06 9:55 PM
94 is good, but in the interest of fairness "undershirts and dress shirts" s/b "everything he says".
Posted by Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 09-22-06 8:11 AM
102 -- are you calling our Sausagely a homophobe?
Posted by Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 09-22-06 8:01 PM
I am wearing a dress shirt with no undershirt right now.
Posted by teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-22-06 8:04 PM
And let me guess: you're not getting sexed up.
Posted by Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-22-06 8:06 PM