Hubba hubba.
(No, I have no more substantive policy-related contribution to make.)
Actually, that isn't how.
He should really change that so it's not visible to just anyone.
But who among us little people really would have the courage to invoke the Reverse Nuremberg Defense?
I hadn't looked for his page when I wondered how you might know Mr. Segall's dating status, but now that I've seen it, I suspect that Mr. Segall doesn't need additional attention from the laydeez of Unfogged.
i hate it when my ability to judge people by their facebook pages is found to be faulty.
This person's page would lead me to think, "Douche Bag," but alas, his letter makes me think otherwise.
I am now questioning so many fb first impressions.
|| A perceptive and compelling take on health care reform ||>
5-6: I have it on good authority a reasonably well-founded guess that the FB dude in question and the letter writer are two different people.
You know, there is probably more than one person answering to that name on facebook.
Hmm. I think I had bio lab with that guy.
(No, I have no more substantive policy-related contribution to make.)
10: With Broder? Were his reactions asinine there, too?
Both Broder AND Craig were in my lab section. It was awkward. Craig was all, "Dude, that's a mitochondrion", and Broder was all, "Now, are we really sure of this? Isn't that still controversial?"
A name is an identifier for an individual. An individual is a being with but one name. An identifier is that which permits us to say with certainty that a person is who that person is, which is to say, is named so-and-so.
There can be only one Craig Segall.
I have a non-ben FB friend in common with the author of the letter to the editor. What a small, stratified society lives upon this world!
Dude looks familiar. But I think is yet another example substantiating the conjecture that I don't actually know anyone I went to college with.
I mean, it's not temperate, but "bizarre"?
To wit, that you have a non-ben FB friend.
My nonben friends outnumber my ben friends.
WELL AREN'T YOU JUST MS. (SOON TO BE MRS.) POPULARITY!
But your ben friends outdo your nonben friends.
I'm keeping my last name, "MARVELOUS".
Sometimes my ben friends do my nonben friends.
23: That goes with being a sorority girl.
It's been fun to see with which Unfoggeders on FB I have non-Unfogged friends in common. The connection in this case, as in most, is via the university that all attended.
The only surprising one was between will and someone I know from activist circles in L.A. Mostly I'm surprised that there aren't more commonalities.
Have any of you ever worked in customer service? Other than Stanley at 8, this thread seems to have gone off on a very unlikely tangent premised on the idea that this name is not pretty common.
I submit that once you've spent sufficient time untangling mixups caused by supposedly "uncommon" names, you gain a new appreciation for the scale of a country of 305 million and the likelihood that any given name you've never come across might still have several hundred twins. Some with the same birthdates.
(And for the record, the sentiment expressed in 1 was entirely to the content and merits of the letter to the editor, was written without access to Facebook, and does not reflect anything knowledge or belief of the letter-writer's personal characteristics, except his fine judgment in writing a letter temperate enough to get published.)
I share my name with one other googlable American, a Hebrew School principal in upstate New York.
Sometimes I sign for packages at work when the receptionist isn't around. Does that count as working in customer service?
Even Stanley seemed to think that there was a the "FB dude in question".
Craig Segall is actually Craig Segall, a clone sent to infiltrate the DFH cliques and lead them to ruin at the hands of the Broders of Zurich.
Or he's some guy, at any rate.
max
['Indicting Dick Cheney would CAUSE INFLATION TO RISE.']
32: I assumed 5 and 6 were referring to the first FB result that came up upon googling, a reasonable assumption, I put it to you!
The connection in this case, as in most, is via the university that all attended.
I don't think everyone here went to the same school...
29 this thread seems to have gone off on a very unlikely tangent premised on the idea that this name is not pretty common.
I was going off on the "the Craig Segall who shows up on Facebook as an alum of U Chicago and Stanford who now lives in DC is probably the one neb knows and who wrote the letter" tangent. Especially since his latest status update is about that letter.
I have 4 FB friends in common with the guy, compared to only one with neb. Who is not one of the 4.
A link to this letter, and the face of someone who a mouse click reveals to be named Craig Segall, are at the top of my FB "Highlights" section, despite my not being friends with Craig Segall. (Text below the link informs me that someone whose name is "nosfloW beN" in reverse commented on that link. Apparently FB thinks that whatever this "nosfloW" character does should be the highlight of my day.)
So I assumed that the CS who posted the link was the same CS who wrote the letter, but you never know these days, with these kids and their identity games.
I think it's clear that the letter was ghostwritten by Bill Ayers.
Huh. It seems that the Craig Segall who comes up as the first Facebook result in a google search is not the same Craig Segall who comes up as the first result in a Facebook search. (Being instead the second.) The correct Craig Segall is the latter.
I don't think everyone here went to the same school...
Maybe not, but I would say there's a surprisingly small number of schools represented among the regular commenters.
41: FB search results seem to take into account the proximity of individuals to your social network. (E.g., friends in common and networks in common seem to bump people to the top of your search results.) Presumably CS isn't far from your current social network, and as such, it's no surprise that he would show up atop your results. Google search results, of course, are ranked differently.
I have no idea why, but 33.last is making me laugh.
And teo gets it completely right in 42. Well, not the answer to life, but otherwise.
Anyway, what the fuck did I do with my keys?
You set them down in a non-standard place near the fridge, bathroom, or computer, while distracted by the cell phone conversation you were having as you walked in the front door.
Alternatively, they're still in the front door.
Whoa. On top of the kitty litter box in the bathroom. Did *not* see that one coming!
(n.b., I am not a cat owner; I am a cat sitter.)
And that's how Otto got his keys back.
It's the bottom of the ninth. The bases are loaded. We are down by three with two outs. Where the fuck is Otto?
1: Thanks!
5: More attention is fine. Believe me.
6: I'm pretty okay, really.
42: I add diversity, having gone to a second tier school.
I think I'm unique at having gone to U of Michigan. You wouldn't think so, though; they boast having the most alumni of any school.
I am 99.9% sure that no other graduates of my undergrad institution even read Unfogged, much less comment. Aha!
I can feel the moment to make a joke about something something tongue-in-cheek something malar keys slipping away, but the joke won't come together. Curse you, joke!
"Curse you, joke!" s/b "Fuck you, clown"
I know of only one other Unfoggetarian from my school. I think.
34: Ah, Stanley,this is exactly what I did.
My powers of judging a book by its cover remain intact.
I think I'm unique at having gone to U of Michigan. You wouldn't think so, though; they boast having the most alumni of any school.
I guess we'll see now.
I think there are only a couple of us hoos on here. Stanley and me. Any others? Matt F? Catherine.
I randomly discovered that there is an infrequent commenter (more frequent than me, but still) who not only went the same school of 1700 people as me, but graduated in the same year, and we had a J-Term class together. His face looks kinda familiar, but we didn't really know each other (it's not unusual that he recognized me by name, I had pink hair and didn't bathe vary often, I sorta stood out when they weren't gettin me mixed up with the other punk rock kid with funny colored hair and a goatee with 6 inches and a 100 lbs. on me).
The non-unfogged friend I have in common with k-sky is puzzling indeed.
Craig Segall is just this guy, you know?
Hey, Craig. Thanks for writing that letter to the editor, and thanks also for being good humored about being discussed here.
61: they boast having the most alumni of any school.
Including:
Sam Weber
Sarah Cooper
Michael Gold
Nick Carlton
Harold Cooper
Meg Jones
Karen Bowens
75: It *would* be pretty awesome, though, if the school with the most alumni had only 7, and all the other schools had had 6 or less students.
Back from my run. I passed a fellow jogger who was wearing an "Economists Do It With Models" t-shirt. I do love the nerdiness of this hip city.
I had to look them up.
I once had an eerily Big Chill weekend because we have a pretty tight-knit college crew, and one of us really did commit suicide about a year+ after graduation, and so we all went back for the funeral and stayed at another friend's house, and it was a Michigan football weekend, and parallel after parallel. But not just any old parallels, but particularly mood-setting ones.
a fellow jogger who was wearing an "Economists Do It With Models" t-shirt.
I saw a new one the other day, which was something like "Ensembles Duet in Harmony". It made me chuckle.
While we were soliciting slogans about historians for our graduate student mugs (which, huh, we never did get made), one option was "historians do it with gloves on." Much more amusing was the winning slogan, "anyone who says history is written by the winners never met a* historian."
*There was huge debate on the grad student list serve about a vs. an.
My favorite is "Phoneticists Do It with Intensity, Duration, and Frequency."
78.2 but particularly mood-setting ones.
Did you hear about it through the grapevine?
82: I don't remember the movie well enough to reply in kind. My close friend called me up to tell me?
Actually, the way he killed himself is darkly fascinating. (Probably told it here already.) He bought a barbecue grill, went and got a room at a hotel, put a towel under the door, lit the barbecue, and asphixiated himself.
"Economists Do It With Models"
I had to stare at this for, like, thirty seconds before the other meaning of the word 'models' occurred to me and I got the joke.
In law school, the group that raised money to fund measly stipends for public interest summer gigs for law students had shirts/mugs/etc. that said "Make Love, Not Law Review".
Wait, M/tch is a lawyer too? My god. You're everywhere.
I had to stare at this for, like, thirty seconds before the other meaning of the word 'models' occurred to me and I got the joke.
I had to stare at this, and I'm still not entirely sure which meaning was obvious and which was obscure. But I guess the tall skinny magazine kind was the mystery.
Not everyone who went to law school is a lawyer. Some of us escaped orbit.
Not everyone who went to law school is a lawyer
Not all who wander are lost.
I'm a recovering lawyer. I take it one day at a time.
Wait, M/tch is a lawyer too?
I was also in China.
But I was never a lawyer in China, at least not to my knowledge.
I'm not not a lawyer, I just don't play one at work.
Apropos of 15 et seq a FB friend just emailed me and another friend to let me know that both she and bitchphd was friends with both of us. (She doesn't know B.)
I think there was some musing here-abouts over whether FB could establish second-order friend commonalities. In re: someone AWB romped on and then misplaced.
82, 83: Just a lame-o reference to the use of the song in the opening sequence (where you get a brief glimpse of Kevin Costner).
69 was another Michigan reference, not sure if it is an well-known one (not a lot of relevant Google hits).
M/tch has been to China, but he's
never been to me.
(girl just got on the bus who looks totally like Anne Hathaway's character at the beginning (i.e., pre-makeover) of _The Princess Diaries_.
97.1: I understood your lame-o reference, JP.
Ask her out quick, Otto. You'll have so much more cred if you woo the princess before the makeover.
Too late! She got off the bus while I was dicking around with my phone. Typical. It's a metaphor for--something.
Asking her out post-makeover can work in the movies, but this was your opportunity to show her that you aren't interested in her throne, or some fancy ballgown.
No use belaboring the point. If you missed your pre-makeover opportunity, so be it. I suggest you apply yourself to coming up some mighty poetic ways of telling her you value her for herself. You'll need them for the scene right before the kiss and credits.
(You could have done this the easy way, but...)
101: iPhone-assisted auto-cockblockery? Well done, man.
You could try "oh, did you get a makeover? I thought you were beautiful when I first saw you on the N-Judah". Note the time and date and stop, so you sound plausible.
77: That's actually a rather amusing blog by an econ grad student.
Also being an economist, I have the saucy logo displayed on my fridge. I've always thought it reflected well upon the laydeez, but they have not always agreed.
I think I'm unique at having gone to U of Michigan. You wouldn't think so, though; they boast having the most alumni of any school.
Nope. I went to University of Michigan. This boast is confusing. There are larger universities, are there not? Are U of M alumni abnormally long-lived?
You're an economist? You just missed our friend Emerson. You and he will have a lot to talk about when he comes back.
107: The legends say that He will only return at Unfogged's time of greatest peril.
(Am I the only one confused about the am/pm thing? I thought read was considering going by those pseuds, but now someone else is? Or someone new? Feel free to e-mail if it's a pseud-sensitive thing. Or just leave me hanging. In the dark. Out to dry.)
There was a semi-lurker who began to comment as "pm" and read said she liked the idea of commenting as "pm" in the afternoon and "am" in the morning, whereupon the real pm said that he was intending to do just that. And he has.
Thanks, teo. I had missed that last part.
I asked pm if s/he were ptm, then didn't see the answer. I'm thinking not.
I think the answer was yes, or at least "probably yes".
Shoot. Do you remember where that exchange was?
I think s/he claimed to have forgotten what the previous pseud s/he had used was, and thus started going by "pm", but recalled using "ptm" when someone asked.
And indeed, here is the answer in the affirmative.
107: yes, except I'm the kind that talks about when markets didn't work, and so the fancy economists tend to ignore us
110, 113: yes. sorry to confuse. It does amuse me, but I guess that might not be single most important thing in this world.
Dude, hey! How was grad school?
Whatever. You don't need me to tell you about Emerson. You were here before me.
I'm in the middle of it, working on dissertation-y stuff half time and applied-y stuff half time. It's really good, in part because I'm happy with my field and work and in part because I'm happy with my little corner of my institution.
Off-and-on. I gave up trying to be fast (along with most other hobbies) during the weed-out first year of my grad school program, and have had some minor health issues off-and-on since then. I think I've got all that sorted out, though, and am just starting to work out again. I expect my throws will come back. We'll see about the legs. I do miss it.
You?
Off to bed. It's late out east.
Naw. I don't play anymore. I find my throws are steady when I go out to play catch, though. That's nice.
Due to the acquaintance with Megan, I'm assuming pm is in Cali somewhere? There are lots of valleys there, right? Accordingly, I move that pm hereto forward be known as "[pm's choice] valley ptm".
His reference to it being "late out east" suggests that he's probably not in California.
On the contrary, it suggests that he is definitely in the west, because if he were on the east, it wouldn't be "out east", you see?
But he's talking to Megan, who is in California, so he may be describing his position in reference to hers.
105
Also being an economist ...
So are the "freshwater" economists as idiotic and influential as Krugman would have us believe or is he constructing strawmen?
135: Um, yes?
Lots of economics is like assuming a frictionless plane in freshman physics - it helps you understand what's going on, but it doesn't really generate any useful predictions. The difference is that physicists remember that.
Another way to think of economics is as policy engineering. It's not some voodoo that prescribes best paths from on high; it informs questions like "what is the best way to provide universal health care" or "how can we unleash rich people from the burden of paying taxes"? If one input to your priorities is not really caring about unemployment, then addressing unemployment won't be a part of your model.
That said, those Chicago guys are s-m-r-t, and the Chicago/Boston divide isn't what it once was.
I'm taking some econ classes now, and it's really interesting to see the difference in approach from the one econ class I took in college. That one was basically bog-standard neoclassical theory, with some reference made to things like externalities but the focus definitely on the awesomeness of markets. Here, though, it's all about the usefulness but also the limits of the theory, and there's lots of explicit discussion of distributional issues and such. The focus is more on the public sector, and the "policy engineering" quality of the discipline is very evident.