Re: A More Cheerful Thread

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Woo front page!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:51 AM
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Also, who the hell sees a rocket launch on their way to dropping off their kids at school?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:53 AM
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"My brother got kicked out of Barnes and Noble for placing bibles in the fiction section. IMMD"

haha.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:56 AM
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If I had a rocket launcher, some son of a bitch would finally get to school on time.


Posted by: Bruce Cockburn, parent | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:00 PM
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Yesterday, my friends went to buy bagels. They stopped at my house on their way home and fed me bagels and let me coo at their adorable baby. IMMD.

Today, I woke to a "just thinking about you" text message. IMMD.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:00 PM
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5.2: He woke you up? This is why there should be a "no communication before 10 AM" blanket rule.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:04 PM
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I thought the rule was "no texting to each other from the same bed"?


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:11 PM
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Technically, yes. But I needed to get up anyway to go parent and stuff.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:11 PM
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Um, 8 to 6...


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:12 PM
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You were in bed from 8 to 6?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:14 PM
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Also, who the hell sees a rocket launch on their way to dropping off their kids at school?

That would be conceivable in Lompoc, CA (home to Vandenberg). I didn't live that close, but we used to watch the missile launches. So fun.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:16 PM
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10: It's sort of sad that when I respond "I wish" I will sincerely mean that "I wish" I had been in bed from 8 to 6. Alone. Sleeping.

I wish.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:16 PM
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12:

So you werent alone? And you werent sleeping?

And you regret that!?!?!?


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:21 PM
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I second Will's comment.

Umm, since nobody's reading the Tissue Lament, here's my question. I'm going to a healthcare town hall with my Congressman Ed Markey. What should I say? I'm thinking that I should mention that I want individuals who don't like their employer options to be able to go into the exchange.

What do you guys think?

Feel free to answer in the other thread.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 12:42 PM
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You know, I should know better than to open my mouth when Will is around...


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 1:11 PM
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15:

the image is priceless.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 1:16 PM
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Man, it must be low fruit season in Di's neck of the woods.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 1:31 PM
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Just trying to MYD.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 1:50 PM
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Di refuses to open her mouth when I am around. FML


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 2:10 PM
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Hmm, a rocket launcher ....

At the moment I am considering buying this alarm clock for my 12 year old. I nearly told her that if she won't get up in the mornings she'll have to be home educated again, but then I'd have her being fucking annoying all day!

Those with older kids, please tell me I'll get through the next few years without beating her to a pulp?


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:04 PM
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Those with older kids, please tell me I'll get through the next few years without beating her to a pulp

It can be a challenge. I find things smooth out when they are in their late 20's, so hang in there.


Posted by: Idealist | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:07 PM
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asilon, can you try out the vibrating function in a store?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:14 PM
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I just heard a review of Ralph Nader's new novel (novel!) on NPR.

"At 700 pages it's an assault against trees." Chuckle.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:16 PM
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22: Trying to compete for the low-hanging fruit?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:19 PM
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can you try out the vibrating function in a store?

That seems like it would be unsanitary.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:20 PM
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My kid's math teacher just called to say she had a splinter. I thought that was odd until further discussion revealed that another student had stabbed her with a pencil, the sliver in question being graphite.


Posted by: Shadrack | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 3:35 PM
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Graphite: the highest grade of coal.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 4:10 PM
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Tried out the vibrator function in the store. IMMD.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 4:17 PM
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At the moment I am considering buying this alarm clock

Have you considered this alarm clock?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 4:34 PM
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29: I bought that for eekbeat! Unfortunately, it goes unused.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 4:35 PM
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29: I bought that for eekbeat! Unfortunately, it goes unused.

I've never actually tried it, but I like the idea of it.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 4:37 PM
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30: We also have one sitting unused that someone bought for my son.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 4:49 PM
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To expand on 30, I do periodically push the button that makes the whirligig fly off, so I guess it's getting some use as a toy. Never as an alarm, though.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 5:00 PM
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I had a vibrating alarm clock a few years back. A bit jarring, but it did the trick.

(I know. Low hanging fruit. I've given up hope of avoiding it. )


Posted by: di kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 5:37 PM
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We don't bother using an alarm clock any more, because the kids never sleep past six thirty anyhow.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 5:50 PM
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Good lord, that flying alarm clock would be mashed to a bloody pulp in short order in my bedroom. Or, more reasonably, relegated to the basement.

Best alarm clock may be a cat or two standing over your head on the pillow patiently placing his or her paw on your nose or eyelids or lips. Do not crossly say, "Cut it out!" and toss the cat(s) on the floor, unless you're a meanie. The cat may choose to gently extend his or her claws onto your face if you aren't getting the point, but hey.

Are clock-radios ineffectual? Works okay. 9 minute snooze. Set the clock a bit fast and pretend you don't know it's 7 minutes fast.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 6:04 PM
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Set the clock a bit fast and pretend you don't know it's 7 minutes fast.

I can only manage so much pretending and that would be way down the list.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 6:44 PM
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37: It's true, I set the alarm for 8:07 a.m. Let me have my game here.

If the electricity goes out, I'm faced with a dilemma as to how to set the bedroom clock again. I still go for 7, or even 9! minutes fast if I feel daring. DO NOT ASK ME WHY.*

* I know why.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:00 PM
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38: It's like Cheeze Whiz. Sure, it seems to work at the start, but soon you need more and more to just get back to normal.

(My alarm is only a back-up. I'm usually up for the reason Apo gives in 35. This works fairly well until daylight savings time ends.)


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:12 PM
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I'm surprised there's not more example giving. Maybe everyone already knew about IMMD?

For heebie from the current top of the page:

In math class my teacher asked me to define "matrix" I told her, "Unfortunately no one can be told what the Matrix is, they have to experience it for themselves." IMMD


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:28 PM
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IMMD.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:33 PM
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Too many obvious examples involve schadenfreude, which makes it a depressing exercise.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:33 PM
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I have now read this thread and I'd like to say my brain is translating IMMD as 'IMMa Dork'.

max
['Sad, really.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:39 PM
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Well, you don't have to be insulting about it, max.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:46 PM
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I'm surprised there's not more example giving. Maybe everyone already knew about IMMD was glued to the nailbiting end of the NLDS. Los Angeles, here we come!


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:46 PM
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I mean, I can keep my alarm clock behavior to myself.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:49 PM
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Really, it's between me and my alarm clock, isn't it.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:50 PM
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45 gets it right.

Finally, a game at a time I could watch!


Posted by: Cryptic nemd | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:51 PM
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41: That guy like eight minutes in putting those spilled coffee stirrers back is almost certainly a health department violation. Shame on him.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:52 PM
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49: he was actually deactivating the force field keeping our hero from leaving the store. Wheels within wheels.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 7:54 PM
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50: MINE EYES ARE OPENED.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:00 PM
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Now you'll start sneezing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:07 PM
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Well, you don't have to be insulting about it, max.

It made my day.

No. Not really.

max
['IHNTSH, IJLS 'pulsing meat acronym'.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:22 PM
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53: ['IHNTSH, IJLS 'pulsing meat acronym'.']

I have not the shit, I just leave such [a] 'pulsing meat acronym'.

Sigh. Clearly I'm not trying very hard.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:30 PM
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IHNTSH, IJLS 'pulsing meat acronym'.

"I have nothing to say here, it's just lightning sausage"?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:33 PM
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I Just Like Saying.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:37 PM
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So on the bright side the apples that someone gave me that I thought were kind of meh for eating turned out to be very tasty when turned into an apple upside-down cake. The unfortunate side effect of this is that I just ate a quarter of an apple-upside down cake over the course of an hour.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:50 PM
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Ah! This is exactly what unfogged is for.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:52 PM
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58: I thought so, too; hovertext updated.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 8:59 PM
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I had an alarm clock that broke so that the alarm could not be reset from the default time of 12:00 am. For months I would set the time so that the clock would read 12:00 am at the time I wanted to wake up. Eventually, I bought a new clock, but the old one had a 5 minute snooze, which I liked a lot and could never find again on a clock radio.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:00 PM
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hovertext updated.

That just made my day.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:03 PM
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59: That's not what I meant.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:12 PM
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62: I figured as much. Willful misunderstanding.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:14 PM
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Plus, I made CJB's day. Let's not detract from that, yes?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:19 PM
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If only there were some sort of website where such a thing could be commemorated...


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:21 PM
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55: "I have nothing to say here, it's just lightning sausage"?

Which provokes the question, 'What, exactly, happens during a lightning fart?'

59: That's not what I meant.

That's what they all say.

max
['BZZT.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:25 PM
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Has Atrios been 37 since he unmasked himself as Duncan Black?
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Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:33 PM
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59: That's not what I meant.

That's what they all say.

I've noticed.

After a lightning fart the perpetrator leaves the room, no?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:36 PM
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67: I don't understand the question.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:38 PM
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Oh, but the question was what happens *during* a lightning fart. Dammit. Sorry.

Atrios has been 37 all his life.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:38 PM
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the old one had a 5 minute snooze

Now I've just wasted fifteen minutes reading different explanations of why the standard snooze time is 9 minutes, none of which is convincing.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:46 PM
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There's a standard snooze time? I had no idea. I think mine's 8 minutes, but I never use it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:50 PM
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It's true of almost every digital alarm clock I've ever used. (And Google auto-completes 'why is snooze' to 'why is snooze 9 minutes'.) But about two snooze-intervals is enough time to waste pondering why, I think.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 9:57 PM
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I use an alarm clock on my computer that I like quite a bit - you can specify the playlist you want to wake up to, you can set the snooze to whatever length you like, you can have different wake up times for every day of the week. Lovely.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:03 PM
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Before I gave up on the radio altogether, I'd listen to the radio as triggered by the alarm. That way if, as often happened, a song came on that I didn't like, I could just press snooze and not have to think about turning the radio on again. I'd do the same for advertisements. Five minutes meant you'd miss a little of the next song - but not always an entire commercial break - but nine minutes was just too long. After repeatedly "listening" to most of each hour on snooze, I just stopped using the radio at all. It hasn't been a loss.

Now I use my watch or travel-size alarms pretty much exclusively. If I really need to, I can put the clock on the other side of the room and still use my watch to check the time if I wake up during the night. I usually wake up to the watch alarm, anyway.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:09 PM
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74: Huh. Do I have that? I should have that.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:09 PM
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69--His sidebar has had him at 37 for the last four years, right?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:23 PM
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77: Hell if I know. I never read Eschaton. (Do I have to turn in my Online Lefty card now?)


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:30 PM
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77: I'm not sure why it's a concern, JM. He probably set that 4 years ago and never updated it. Or maybe he made it up. I have a friend whose advertised age is 99, the idea being, in that case, that's it's not relevant. I wouldn't be surprised to see that friend of mine change his age to 12.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:31 PM
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I don't think so--he's always been a year older than me. (I'm 36 at the moment.)


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:33 PM
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He was 32 in 2003. So he should be 38 by the end of the year.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:35 PM
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It would have been confusing if he were actually 54.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:39 PM
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76: It's a program called Awaken. I like it, and it hasn't failed me, but I must admit that I've never managed to get it to turn my computer on (I think I have to change some setting and I've just never really bothered because I leave my computer on sleep mode all the time anyhow).


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:42 PM
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83: Thanks. It's giving me a not-found-on-server error. I'll re-try tomorrow.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:45 PM
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84: Strange! I do wonder if there is a free program that does the same thing.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:46 PM
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Thanks, 80 and 81!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:53 PM
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I don't know why that bothered me suddenly.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 10:53 PM
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85: After all I installed it. The test is on!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:05 PM
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I hope you like it. I'll be waking up at 7:45 tomorrow morning to a mix of shamelessly cheesy pop songs, as that is the only thing that will drag me out of bed (Beyonce, Pink, Rhianna, etc). What is even more terrible is that I will use my remote to hit snooze, at least once.

I like the fact that because it wakes my computer from sleep in order to run the program*, it means that when I want to check my email in the morning there's no delay while I wait for the computer to wake up. And then, I realize that I'm totally spoiled by gadgets and modern life.

*I actually wake up to the sound of my computer whirring to life, not the actual song itself, but that's just because my internal alarm clock is almost good enough to get me up on my own and I am generally sleeping very lightly by the time the real alarm goes off.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:20 PM
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I think people can get conditioned to the sounds they hear regularly when they're woken up so that the first sound of them wakes them up. I used to do early morning sports - swimming and running - and my dad, who's always woken up early, would knock on the door first and then say that it's time to wake up. I got used to waking up at the knocking sound and a quietish knock will still wake me up almost every single time (an unfortunate occurrence sometimes in apartment buildings with thin walls and early-rising roommates/neighbors).


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:32 PM
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Several times lately I've been awakened to a squirrel scratching at my window. I don't know what it's trying to accomplish.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:34 PM
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This is what cron and mplayer were made for, I tell you.


Posted by: wispa | Link to this comment | 10-12-09 11:34 PM
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Oh wow, it's 2 AM. I'd better go set an alarm clock. (I guess I'm fully recovered from jetlag. Waking up at 6 was kind of nice, while it lasted. Did you know there are several daylight hours before noon? It's amazing!)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 12:00 AM
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I have abdicated from any involvement in waking her up, and told her if she can't get herself downstairs by 7.15 every morning this week, I'm buying the very loud, vibrating one, and she's paying for it. Today she was up on time, although she did apparently comment on my blog after midnight last night. Idiot child.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 2:24 AM
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Did you know there are several daylight hours before noon? It's amazing!)
it actually blew my mind for a while when I quit drinking and there were all this continuous evening hours after 7 that just went on and on, and I would remember what happened during that time. I think I blacked out every evening for like a year. there are also a surprising amount of hours before noon, but as someone who woke up at 11:15 today I'm not in much position to talk about them. I don't do mornings.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 4:07 AM
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94: The Ride of the Valkyries played on a good high powered sound system works. My kids still shudder when they hear that.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 6:11 AM
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that time. I think I blacked out every evening for like a year. there are also a surprising amount of hours before noon

Iris' old school started at 8:15, and we had to be out the door before 8 if we were to get there on time. Now the bus picks her up at ~8:40, and it's basically around the corner - I don't think it takes a minute to get there. If I stop at the store after the bus, I'm not getting home til 9, yet it's still "first thing" in my mind. My work mornings have become vastly unproductive - not enough hours before noon.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 6:44 AM
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Has Atrios been 37 since he unmasked himself as Duncan Black?

Just to support Chopper (cohort!), he has in fact been updating. I think I even noticed it changing in the spring. Something to look forward to.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 6:48 AM
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I used to launch myself out of a lofted bed to the sound of a CD spinning up in time to stop the song playing. (Loading the stereo with Pantera with the volume maxed teaches you to do that really quickly.) Nothing like a shot of adrenaline to start the day.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 7:32 AM
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asilon,

I have this clock radio dawn simulator, and it helps a lot once fall comes around. It's not fool proof, though, because you can make it snooze.

I had this cheaper one before, but it broke, and I'm not sure that I trust the company. The Sunrise Systems one didn't have a radio, but it did let you program a different alarm for every day of the week.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 7:53 AM
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I wake up every morning to "I Got You Babe".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 8:23 AM
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My power went off during the night (yay, storm) so I only got my computer turning itself on, no music. So sad.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 8:47 AM
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Right. The *saddest* song is no song at all.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 8:52 AM
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why does the exchange rate suck so bad? fuck.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 8:58 AM
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104 should be a post, not a comment!


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 9:01 AM
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She currently has the radio on loudly, and can sleep through it - I don't know how. Her clock radio has a beep alarm but you can't make it louder, which is stupid. And she's just told me she's signed up for NaNoWriMo, which I can't imagine is going to help with the sleep issue.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 9:04 AM
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why does the exchange rate suck so bad? fuck.

I don't know, but it's going to start to hurt if it keeps going like this. Stupid loans in foreign funds.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 3:01 PM
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107: ooh. I have a friend who went to the UK for a Master's degree and ran into exactly that problem, such that he couldn't come back to the US for a while because a salary in dollars would leave him too far in the hole as far as repaying his loans.

Then he got deported. So there's that.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 4:09 PM
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Actually, I was reversing things. I meant US dollars are the foreign currency my loans are in. So I'm losing because I get US funds but convert and spend them here. This is still theoretically a problem because I converted at a better rate last month, but I have more loans and expenses coming. Repayment, fortunately, is not starting soon.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 5:08 PM
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Then he got deported. So there's that.

If you get deported, do you have to pay for your own trip back?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 5:49 PM
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110: you know, I'm not sure about that. He's still employed by the same company -- they have a US office as well -- so they might have paid for it.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 6:06 PM
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Maybe I try to hard to find the bright side in immigration control efforts.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-09 7:29 PM
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Maybe I don't try too hard to spell.


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