You should try wearing pants!
I will not.
No way! All the moms in commercials wear pants like that, with their unbuttoned button-down shirts.
If they sell them at J. Crew, they're probably reasonably fashionable.
2: So it sends the signal that I'm edgy?
3: You'd think, but I actually had to hunt at the J. Crew site. None of their pants look like this anymore, except for the on-sale possibly-being-discontinued "classic cut" or whatever they called it.
with their unbuttoned button-down shirts.
Hott.
I'm always hoping the old-fashioned German (Austrian?) cleavage-spouting dresses will come back into fashion. Not sure what they called.
re: 6
Dirndls. There's some sort of Czech variation, too.
6: I'm afraid that, as actually worn, they don't spout so much cleavage.
OTOH, you can always go to the new place on the South Side for your Slutty Dirndl fetish. It's like Slutoberfest over there.
with their unbuttoned button-down shirts.
What exactly are these commercials for?
8: Everything about Germany dissappoints in the end.
8: Between slutoween and Slutoberfest autumn has way too many slutty events. I'd like my sluttiness more evenly distributed across the year.
11: on purely anthropological grounds, you'd expect there to be more in the spring. Fertility rites and so on.
Ci$li$? Lace your partner's waffle, wear your shirt like this and you'll get laid.
That's what a dirndl is? I thought it was just the skirt bit, not the whole outfit. Not that it's terribly relevant to my fashion choices.
You're supposed to wear a white shirt under the dirndl, you contributors to the downfall of society.
Between slutoween and Slutoberfest autumn has way too many slutty events.
To say nothing of Slutsgiving.
12: Yes, but do we have a May rite, celebrating the return of the tank top? No. Instead, we have an October ritual celebrating fishnet stockings. October! This is the downfall of society.
According to wikipedia:
The dirndl is mentioned in the song "Turn Around", composed in 1959 by Harry Belafonte, Alan Greene, and Malvina Reynolds. "Dirndls and petticoats, where have you gone?"
I find this fact fascinating, if for no other reason, than because I didn't know that Malvina Reynolds and Harry Belafonte had collaborated. (though, the entry on Reynolds says that she wrote the song and Belafonte just covered it).
17: The USSR used to have all of the tanks parade every May 1. Maybe we could adapt a bit?
Everything about Germany dissappoints in the end.
Not true! There's the public transportation and the cheap student tickets.
Sorry, it's all black leggings with belted neon type sweaters now and pants with extremely tapered ankles and long necklaces. It's 1986 again.
I hate when pants wear necklaces.
It seems that the public transportation disappoints as well.
I do despair of being able to find non-tapered, non-skinny jeans or pants in the near future, though. What's a girl with big hips and thighs to do?
The only possible datedness about those pants, Heebie, is the boot-cut. The current hip silhouettes are a) leggings and b) harem-y. Feel free to ignore that, though. These pants are fine, and I like J. Crew chinos too.
I'm just going to wear my old clothes forever. I'm not down with this new 1986. The 80s were supposed to be for jest and dance parties only.
To say nothing of Slutsgiving.
And Sluteran's Day.
30: It's actually Slutmemberance Day in Canada. And Slutistice Day elsewhere.
Again, November is not the best time of the year for outdoor slut memberance.
Slutistice Day
Sort of a reverse Lysistrata celebration, where we all put out to achieve peace.
I just saw the leggings/sweater look on a moderately heavy thirtysomething woman in my building -- while it was limited to teens, I could ignore it, but it seems to be mainstreaming.
I do remember it from my teenage years as awfully comfortable and easy, but it's hellishly unflattering on a grownup. I suppose I'll spend the next year or so debating whether my laziness and desire to wear stretchy clothes is more powerful than my vanity.
I'm just having trouble getting behind the tapered and skinny jeans. I think I'm beginning to officially be left behind by Fashion.
Yeah, I'm pretty much ignoring the leggings/sweater look as well. I can't seem to find the right sort of baggy sweater at the Goodwill, and belts have always annoyed me, etc. For various reasons, my current fashion mood is more "shit-kicking vampire-killer" or "early Soviet potato-flinger" and I figure I'll just run with those for now.
There are versions of the look that aren't as bad for adults or for heavier people -- maybe swap out the sweater for something more like a swingy dress. But the look does depend on being generally skinny, with skinny legs in particular. There's no iteration of it that will work for me, with my thick legs and hourglass shape.
I think I'm beginning to officially be left behind by Fashion.
You could go for the Hepburnesque wide-legged pants. Or are those already out?
For various reasons, my current fashion mood is more "shit-kicking vampire-killer" or "early Soviet potato-flinger" and I figure I'll just run with those for now.
These are both excellent choices.
|| No more masturbating to The Equalizer. |>
You could go for the Hepburnesque wide-legged pants.
Not flattering on any woman the wrong side of the willowy/skeletal divide.
People think that, but I swear, if they're cut right and if you have a small waist, you can pull them off even if you're not skin and bones.
43: Isn't height/length-of-limb an issue? I've never seen (and I try to write this without moralizing my aesthetics) a woman shorter than 5'8" or so wearing Hepburn pants (you know, we might as well just call them that; most people who would care wouldn't associate them with anybody else) and looking remarkably good.
It would be a hoot if you wore wide-leg pants over leggings in the Chicago winter.
45 reminds me that I have a down-filled parka that I have not needed to wear since 1999 or so. Not that I've ever lived in Chicago, but I'm not longer on the plains and exposed to the wind from Canada.
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41:Never watched The Equalizer, not once, so I mostly know Woodward from Wicker Man and Breaker Morant. But those will suffice for immortality.
This previous hardman series has a great reputation, but apparently most of the first two seasons are forever gone.
The Monty Python history explained that the BBC had a practice of recording over their old videotapes, and if Terry Jones had not preserved them, Monty Python would be a memory. Most of Spike Jones and Dudley Moore/Peter Cook work from the era us gone.
Incomprehensible.
47: I am going to burst into tears just from reading the words Breaker Morant. Sob.
Huh, my comment didn't post. JM, what do you mean by harem-y?
50: Wow, I had no idea people really wore pants like that. People really wear pants like that?
Why, Jackmormon has posted a picture of herself in such a pair in this very forum.
Here, but the photo appears to have jumped bail.
but it's hellishly unflattering on a grownup,
Cute as a button on 5-y.o.s. Actually, not sweaters, but "tunics," a term that in practice seems to mean either dresses from 2 years ago or shirts that won't fit for 5 years.
8: Everything about Germany dissappoints in the end.
Our review for the aforementioned South Side beer hall (licensed by a famous München establishment) riffed on the fact that Germans (and Austrians) really do live up to a lot of the stereotypes - heavy food, oompah music, dubious fashion choices - and AB's mom (who's from Philly) told us that AB's German relatives probably wouldn't look kindly on the article. We weren't trying to be mean - we love it over there!
I was hoping to find a picture of the members of Procol Harum wearing really goofy pants, so that I could make a "Harum pants" pun, but unfortunately their pants look disappointingly unremarkable. You may nonetheless be interested in (available at the link) a 17 year-old Danish girl's argument that we should all "open [our] hearts to the music that Procol Harum plays".
55: Pretty cute on ten-year-olds as well -- Sally's loping around looking like a broadshouldered gazelle in a series of stripy tunics and leggings.
The pants in 50 are for the woman who wants to look like she tied a sweatshirt around her waist but doesn't want to own a sweatshirt.
Combine the harem pants with a bulky olive cardigan, stompin' boots, and a red kerchief, and you're all set to fling potatoes at the Imperial Guard!
I've never in my adult life owned a proper pair of trousers like those ones in the photo. I had to look respectably smart (though not at all stylish) for a Remembrance Sunday parade last week and wore my eldest's school trousers.
No Sifu, I was trying to show respect. And anyway, those school trousers have no pockets for potatoes.
Currently I'm aiming for a slightly mad old tweedy dog lady look.
The pants in 50 aren't what I expected to be harem-style pants. Huh, I have a pair or two of those that I haven't worn for a long time, because. Can't pull it off. This is not the environment. ('What the hell are you wearing?' isn't really a reaction you want to be fielding all day long, or at least I don't, any more. Go JM!)
I wear ones of leather/nylon, and imagine rubber would chafe a lot more.
I haven't worn for a long time, because. Can't pull it off.
That reminds me of that charming old folktale about Br'er Rabbit and the tar harem pants.
"Please, Br'er Fox, don't throw me into Filene's Basement!"
8: I'm afraid that, as actually worn, they don't spout so much cleavage.
The first page of the Google image search for "dirndl" is a battleground between the chaste and revealing deployment of same. I was also amused by mydrindl.com's apparent use of the translation game for some of its English, For the MyDirndl Team only content customers are a basis for our right to exist. We try hard to reach all sorts of things therefore around this status at our customers.
20 cheap student tickets
when i was there, noone would give me the discount, because my grad school ID didn't have a year printed on it, so they didn't know if it was still valid
and those beerwench dresses are for seeing some nipple poke through, as celebration of return of cool weather, not for cleavage.
those harem pants in 50 just make me think of doughy pantload
10: Amen. (Rory gets back tonight, so hopefully she feels otherwise... )
|| Also, I am sad. My anticipated trip to NYC is on hold as the friend I'd planned to travel with was just diagnosed with breast cancer. Caught early and prognosis looks very good at this point. But people my age are not supposed to fucking get cancer.|>
Di, very sorry to hear about your friend.
That sucks, Di. Best wishes for effective treatment and a speedy recovery for your friend.
Oh, that's sad news. Hope all goes well with her.
So sorry, Di. Best wishes to her. Fucking cancer.
Best wishes for your friend, Di. Also, hope you get to go to NYC soon too.
Cancer sucks, even 'caught early and treatable'. I second MM and hope that both of you will be able to.
Amen. Good luck to her, Di.
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['One of those days.']
Thanks all. I feel like a jackass for complaining that the trip is postponed. It's just what made this "real" and now so abstract and distant.
I'm sorry to hear that, Di. As I've reconnected with old acquaintances on Facebook, I've been taken aback at the number of people my age and younger who have dealt with or are dealing with breast cancer.
Yeah. Since my friend foung out i've had a number of other friends share stories of people our age and younger who've had breast cancer -- and have walked away strong, which is encouraging.
I'm so sorry, Di. Best of luck to your friend.
