Brie. Pancetta. Wrap 'em up, suck 'em down.
Well, shoot.
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Boot-hairy Pan cackles with hyenas' whim.
Wow, 50,600 Google results for "Pancackes." I guess it's a thing.
I dunno, SB. I see what you were going for but the execution was a little cack-handed.
Oh, man. Oh, I slay me.
Pancackes are a Cambridge specialty.
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Going to my gardening class this eve reminds me that teaching and learning are a lot like oral sex. It is fun to give, and fun to receive, but it is more fun to receive because it is so much less work.
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That depends on the skill of the teacher.
I know I'm supposed to RTFA, but this is before my time.
And …?
I wish I still knew what I was referring to with that Judas and rice comment.
So is a crumpet just what we would call an English Muffin?
I can't say "It's different" without hearing :47 of this video.
20: Wow. That's an intense documentary. I assumed based on the hair & clothes that it was made in the 80s, but the description says 1994.
Going to my gardening class this eve reminds me that teaching and learning are a lot like oral sex. It is fun to give, and fun to receive, but it is more fun to receive because it is so much less work.
I get paid more for giving than receiving.
22: Only if you're a professional giver.
What's confusing is that in the U.K., they refer to pancakes as "pants."
I only make pancakes when I have no food in the house, just ingredients. It's sad, because pancakes are delicious, but I associate them with not wanting to go the store.
Imagine being so good at receiving (either learning or oral sex) that you get paid to do it!
I bet that means it would be work, and would cease to be more fun than giving.
I hear that in the circles truly devoted to learning, someone with a particularly impressive and well-formed brain will find teachers willing to pay to teach him.
I bet that means it would be work, and would cease to be more fun than giving.
It would become like an old chestnut.
A friend of mine who was a male prostitute said almost NONE of his clients wanted him to give, almost all wanted him to receive. A lot of pressure, he says!
That's the problem with adoption of any given role if taken on as a habit, in any case.
I like giving more than receiving. Laydeez.
You just have no idea what a burden that is, PGD.
(Seriously, though, you've said before, I think, that it's partly because the giving lacks in, er, quality. But that's when you must teach the giver.)
Actually, it can be true even for very high quality giving. I think the real reason is that the giver is participating more intensely / actively in sex, so giving is sexier even thought it's less immediately physically pleasurable. "Sexiness" and pure sexual pleasure can be pretty different.
Actually, 36 is a ridiculous overgeneralization.
Really, it's just a matter of taste.
37: Right, the terms kind of fail here: for some people, a giving partner can register as sexier when giving. Or, giving up control when receiving is 'sexier.'
It really just depends on mood and inclination between the two parties at a given time. I prefer mixing it up over the long run. If a match can be found between people who enjoy giving/receiving more in one direction than the other, that's good.
Allow me to be the first to register my surprise that a food thread went sex.
I mean, no matter how buttery they are.
Pancakes are like sex—exciting at first, but then by the end, you're sick of them.
I am afraid I am going to be yelled at for these remarks, however.
Pancakes are more like masturbation in my case. If there's nothing more exciting around, I'll go for it and it's fine, but I really ought to appreciate them more.
I did try to bring the two themes back together in 37.2.
I suppose this is the thread to explain my new name for pancakes, which is derived from translating "pancake" into Spanish and then back to English again except with a critical but intentional translation mistake.
Hence: pancake-->panqueque-->bread what-what?!
I admit I added the punctuation just because.
I generally just make dutch babies (the pancake, not the sexual maneuver), but there's a great lemon pancake recipe in a recent Joy of Cooking and apple pancakes, too, are quite good.
And then there are POTATO pancakes!
Also, old chestnut pancakes. They're so-so.
pancake-->bread what-what?!
I like this.
Potato pancakes, and zucchini pancakes, are grand. What's this sexual maneuver, now?
Not for an instant do I believe that zucchini pancakes are remotely close to grand.
I admit I haven't made them in quite a while. I recall them in grand fashion. You have to press the water out of the grated zucchini first. Perhaps they go by another name, but the result is not unlike a potato pancake. (Unless you're making your potato pancakes with mashed potatoes, which is something else entirely.)
I'm strongly resisting turning a food to sex thread back into a food thread.
But zucchini simply doesn't taste as divine as potatoes do.
If I'd known it would be this kind of thread, I would have put my zucchini in the mashed potatoes.
I was wondering whether you just don't like zucchini. If eaten fairly fresh/uncooked, it's pretty good. It's green-tasting. A zucchini pancake doesn't cook the stuff to the point of limp watery tastelessness. That's all.
I tend to go for the green, and prefer crisp. Potatoes have, like, no taste really, in a way. They're just starch, gluten. You have to pep up your potato pancakes, don't you? I don't hate potato pancakes, by any means. They're great. Probably just a matter of taste, but in this case, a person doesn't have to choose. They're both good.
Would that I'd seen 54 before posting.
Okra is green-tasting.
Potatoes have, like, no taste really, in a way
Perhaps if you prepare them incompetently!
Huckleberry pancakes spoil you for all others.
58: That's why I *never* eat them.
Do not favor okra. Prefer crisp. Potatoes are very good, but need support.
You know what is a good fruit is the mulberry.
Certainly, it's just as easy to get okra crisp as (shudder) vegetable marrow.
Potatoes need nothing! At most, to be fried in a flavorful fat, but really, not even that.
Why does everything have to be crisp all the time?
I have nothing against potatoes. I make potatoes in various ways that please me.
Potatoes need nothing! At most, to be fried in a flavorful fat
I'd started to write a Food Fight! kind of thing about this, in which I lobbed a turkish zucchini pancake topped with greek yogurt or just sour cream in your general direction, or cut your potato pancake with chopped kale, but I lost heart.
My housemate and I were talking earlier tonight about reintroducing meat into the household cookery routine. He said it would be better if we had a damn dishwasher, to cleanse things, if we were going to be cutting up meat and so on. I said stuff about having a dedicated cutting board, that was about all we'd need to attend to, besides dealing with the scraps, which we can throw out back in the woods, but he seemed to be fussing about washing the dishes in super hot water.
Hm. I mean, I'm very seriously not used to addressing raw meat in the kitchen, but hyper-vigilance about hot water on the plates and washing them almost immediately seems like overkill.
Now I want to try making vegetable chijimi.
I'm very seriously not used to addressing raw meat
"Now look here raw meat, uh I mean Mr. Raw Meat..."
re: 65
Just ordinary hot soapy water of the type one would use washing the dishes would be fine, no? It's what everyone else uses.
You know who really makes good pancakes? The Dutch.
PANSPERMIA NOW, WHAT WHAT?!
Huckleberry pancakes spoil you for all others.
Huckleberry tastes like Hubba-Bubba.
addressing raw meat
Bringing us back of blowjobs. Good work on the thread derail, Parsi.
Also 61 is correct.
A friend of mine was on an exchange in Denmark, and come springtime, his host family started telling him that soon they'd have new potatoes. Friend thought it weird that everyone was so excited about potatoes. Then came the day they had the first of the new potatoes. One of those revelatory food experiences.
I think the northern European potatoes are better, though.
In honor of pesach, matzoh meal pancakes should be mentioned (?) Awful. Like a combination of breakfast and punishment.
Bread what-what makes me want to type emoticons and number hearts.
I can't believe anyone thinks potatoes don't have specific tastes and textures. They're quite a long way away from a generic starch. There are so many distinct varieties.
I am completely fixated on making dutch babies as a sexual euphemism. SUSPECT DO NOT WANT.
As with nearly every imaginable phrase, there is indeed an urbandictionary entry for "dutch baby".
That just doesn't make sense. Why would that be Dutch? or a baby?
That just doesn't make sense. Why would that be Dutch? or a baby?
This hardly seems like a unique complaint. E.g., "Why would that be tossed? or a salad?"
IF YOU HAVE TO ASK...
In honor of pesach, matzoh meal pancakes should be mentioned (?) Awful. Like a combination of breakfast and punishment.
Matzoh brei, on the other hand, is excellent.
Matzoh brei is excellent! Am I the only one around here whose family does savory matzoh brei instead of sweet? I seem to remember that from last year.
As for pancakes, I am still in love with these oatmeal-buttermilk ones.
Liking giving more than getting is common, taken to an extreme it can be rather frustrating (memories of a gf who refused completely and of rants by a friend whose bf had the same attitude.) Lazy weekend morning savory buckwheat crepe making and eating plus wine punctuated with giving and getting, not boring at all.
Oooh, that's the oatmeal-buttermilk pancakes that Anand introduced me to last year. You're right; they're extraordinary. I keep making them for people.
82: You are the only, but even with the sweet a good helping of salt makes it just right.
I made an apple matzoh kugel for last night's seder and an extra one for this week's breakfast.
I can't believe anyone thinks potatoes don't have specific tastes and textures.
Gotcha.
Isn't matzoh brei basically Jewish migas?
Rather, migas are Hibernian matzo brei.
Ben meant Iberian, but is now going to tell us why he really, truly meant Hibernian (he makes his with Guiness!).
Related-ish: Carly Fiorina says Passover is a time to break bread. Oopsie.
AWB: M(ish)igas.
Do migas exist outside of Texas? Granted, this one place in Brooklyn has them, but it's run by a guy from Austin. My life is a search for migas, essentially. They are the apotheosis of brunch.
M(ish)igas.
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Where do you get migas, Mr. S? I make them at home but have never had them in a restaurant.
AWB: Got 'em once or twice at Lobo, the one on 5th Ave. I'm not 100% sure they're still on the menu. When I have tried to make them they have been, well, less than apotheos...tic.
94: maybe the crypto-Jews out west make miga brei.
97: They have pretty good okra and margaritas too. We should go for brunch next weekend.
okra and margaritas
For some reason, I omitted the "and" at first and was all, "Okra margaritas?!?! Ew, slimy."
I've never heard of migas, but upon googling, it looks a lot like chilaquiles. Is there a difference?
Okra margaritas sound pretty horrible but so do avocado margaritas (actual thing made at Curra's in Austin.) And they are.
Hmm. I've only ever had eggy chilaquiles.
I like the avacado margarita's at Curra's. They're creamy and savory.
Next you people will be telling me that okra pizza is divine.
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Wait, I'm confused. In my world migas is a fry-up of stale bread, ham, tomatoes, and garlic. Where do the eggs come in?
Chilaquiles seem to vary a lot depending who's making them. Broadly I'd say chilaquiles are tortillas with eggs and migas are eggs with tortillas.
108: I was just looking up recipes, because I don't know from migas, and I think you're talking about Spanish migas, which are bread and ham based, rather than Tex-Mex migas, which are tortilla and egg based.
Chilaquiles are tortillas simmered in salsa. Migas are eggs with tortillas.
Next you people will be telling me that okra pizza is divine.
We make okra quesadillas through the summer, and they are excellent.
I. I use dilute chlorine bleach to clean enmeated surfaces. cheap and very effective and no wondering about chemiclas in the body. it makes everything white, which can be a plus or minus.
II. Breads
A. pancakes
1. I was JUST reading about peanut butter pancakes. though, i plan to use almond butter.
2. lately i've been using almond butter instead of oil for most things. it is a great ingredient. more nutrition and flavorful replacement for canola type oil, but mild enough it just stays in the background.
3. no wheat in pancakes. ta-da, no problems from overmixing.
4. oats flourized in a blenders >>>> oats flourized in a food processor. i used a food processor, and it was a disaster, nowhere near fine enough particles, so i needed too much to make the batter thick, and they ended up super dense.
B. Crepes
1. i think a few months ago i asked about wheat->buckwheat use in crepes. buckwheat i better for savory crepes, though you really should use less (i went from 3/4 cup to 1/2 cup), at least if you let it sit for an hour (and you should.)
2. why do people use too little egg in crepes? they should taste eggy. (same deal with 1 egg:1.5 cups flour ratios in pancakes. WTF???)
C. You can use a mesh splatter guard as a pizza 'pan'. I put my right on the stone. no sticking problems like with putting it right on, and better clearance of hte water vapor than using parchmnet paper.
Pancakes? Now I have to go make waffles. In the Mickey Mouse waffle maker, because I'm too lazy to haul out my cast-iron Norwegian waffle maker. Or to make my grandmother's recipe, which requires making the batter and letting it sit overnight. Or maybe I'll just go put strawberry jam on a matzo, just because it's easier altogether.
I miss Cambridge. Go wave at Clare College for me, would you, SB? And if anyone stands you a bar bet on the number of balls on the CC bridge, it's 13¾, not 14; one of them has a wedge taken out of it.
DE, I may have missed an earlier update, but are you all healed up and mobile again?
112: Southerner. (Seriously, though, I know I'm just not appreciative of okra because, you know, northerner.)
Also, DE!
110: Gotcha. Thanks. My recipe is definitely Spanish, and I don't think I've heard of the Tex-Mex version outside this thread.
Apo - All healed up & dancing. I'm hoping to avoid seeing anyone in the orthopaedic ward at Cedars ever again. It does make it a little more difficult to get through TSA screening, what with having several inches on titanium in each leg - and it's a riot when they assure me that they're patting me down with the backs of their hands, so as not to really touch the boobs. [A hand-held metal detector would be a lot more effective, thinks I, given what one could hide under clothing...]
I've never had chilaquiles when they weren't made with eggs. And I've never had migas. Something funny's going on here.
All healed up & dancing.
Hooray!
Have you guys ever had chilamigas? It's what you serve when you're hanging with your comadres and they need to just calm the eff down already.
Bhindi masala (Okra, tomatoes, and onions) is really fast, easy if you have the spices kicking around. Good with rice or nontraditioanlly on tortilla chips.
Guys, Migas w/ scrambled eggs is a Texas thing. Never seen them anywhere else and def not in Mexico. I think most places in SoCal serve Chilaquiles with eggs but there are plenty that don't -- my favorite joint close to my house doesn't.
Probably someone else has made this point already.
Anyhow, Menudo is the one true Mexican breakfast.
Menudo is the one true Mexican breakfast
Though the taste is always delicious, no single ingredient remains the same for more than a couple of years.
Menudo is Puerto Rican, you racists.
Rules is rules, jms.
Oooh, that's the oatmeal-buttermilk pancakes that Anand introduced me to last year. You're right; they're extraordinary. I keep making them for people.
I made them once, based on your recommendation and they were very tasty.
I haven't made them again because buttermilk isn't an ingredient that I have on hand, but I keep meaning to do so.
Since this thread appears to only be attracting the Angelenos, let me share my recent find of surprisingly good menudo on the Westside -- at The Talpa, the extremely old fashioned white persons Mexican Restaurant in Mar Vista. Really, even though the place looks like El Coyote, the Menudo is pretty good there.
130: That reminds me: a neighbor of indeterminate ethnicity, whom I guessed was most likely Mexican, turns out to be from Iran. Hah!, I thought on learning that recently.
I've heard that yogurt is a good sub for buttermilk.
128- I thought tripe and hominy was a constant? Or is this a reference I'm not getting?
It is a reference you're not getting.
135: it is a reference you're not getting, but that said hominy is not a constant.
137: Hominy, no, but malady's always in there.
Damn. At least I still have tripe to console me, right?
I heard tripe finally came out as gay.
And I fully support tripe and admire its bravery. Tripe's always been there for me. Unlike hominy.
HOMINY HOMINY HOMINY HOMINY
Anyone ever made Callos Madrilenos? I've always made them Milan style, using Hazan's recipe, but I had tripe in Madrid last summer and loved it. Thinking it might make a nice change. Googling gets me what seem like two fundamentally different versions - one with veal shank, one without. I don't remember bits of veal shank in mine, but they could have been there semi-disintegrated in the thick stew. I'd prefer without for expense reasons, plus I just made osso bucco.
I bet that means it would be work, and would cease to be more fun than giving.
I was going to reply to this, but yeah, what 32 said. I had a college friend who was a male escort and he said that the vast majority of his clients were closeted married travelers who wanted to burble about how they've never, ever done this before for about 50 minutes and then blow him for ten and they didn't want him to touch them, basically. Very strange.
i could use a chart of texmex food like this one for barista coffees
http://marisblogs.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/espresso_drinks.gif
recieving oral seems more interchangable between sexes than giving.
145 gets it right. I don't know about that pronunciation of "breve" though.
147: Yeah, and their Americano doesn't specify hot water, which could end up kind of blech.
Inspired by this thread, I just made me a lovely dinner of fried tortillas, eggs, pinto beans, onion, cilantro, tomato, avocado and sour cream.
And now I want pancakes.
Bitter okra? She wouldn't let me near 'er okra!
133 - Did he steal your dog? How long before you accidentally call him Ogged?
153 Homosexual? I hardly know you all!
