Re: World cup thread!

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Football sucks.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:11 AM
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What's the etiquette on reserving tables in crowded bars? Does it have an entry in the DSM4?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:23 AM
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2: Might makes right. The bars in NYC -- at least 4 years ago -- were taking reservations for tables, and they were long gone by game day. But otherwise, you can hold a table until someone gets tired of looking at you by yourself and sits down with friends.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:43 AM
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That was me!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:44 AM
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3: And then you have a bunch of new friends!


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:47 AM
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2: order bottle service.


Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:50 AM
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What about multiple tables joined together? Is it a spectrum disorder?
Reinforcements have arrived!


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:57 AM
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I like the statistic that there are 150 RVs for rent in South Africa; the Dutch fans rented 120 of them; the other 30 were said to be "in need of service" or something. The narrative is, man, these dutch fans are CUH-RAZY!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:00 PM
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Got a vuvuzela? Trade it in for a KFC Double Down!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:14 PM
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3: As one of the match commentators never tires of pointing out, "possession is nine tenths of the law".


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:19 PM
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I'm hoping for a repeat of the Dutch War of Independence, but I expect that Spain will eke out yet another 1-0 victory, thus allowing American non-fans to make fun of the low scores.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:22 PM
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Last time the weather here was really nice (unlike the sticky stuff we have now), and I watched it on a big screen in Government Center. There was a great huge spontaneous parade through the North End when Italy won. I'm not sure what would have happened if they'd lost.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:29 PM
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I watched it last time in a bar in the East Village, and had the sad honor of explaining to a 7-year-old French boy with tears in his eyes wondering why the cops and firemen were whooping it up with lights and sirens that beaucoup de flics et pompiers sont d'origine italienne.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:34 PM
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That kick to the chest was dirty. Stay classy, Oranje.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:51 PM
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That guy is going to have, like, thirty goddamn nipples.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:54 PM
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Can someone explain to me what just happened with the corner and the "sportsmanship" thing? Is it that you're not supposed to shoot from that far? Was it an indirect kick? What were they saying about what would have happened if it had gone in?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 12:58 PM
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Ah, the stop of play was from an injury. I see.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:02 PM
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Netherlands seems determined to ensure that Spain doesn't dive too many times.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:08 PM
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De Jong learned at Miyagi's knee. And then joined the Cobra Kai.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:09 PM
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16-7: Wait, so explain it to me, if you would?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:11 PM
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Ned was returning ball to Spain, but kicked it to casillas in a way that made a save necessaryish-unintentionally. That lead to a corner for Ned. Since they were tryig to give it to ESP keeper, they just passed it to them.

Sportsmanship, and whatnot.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:15 PM
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Huh. So it was in play but the Dutch were giving it back, voluntarily, because someone got injured. But that injury didn't stop play or make the ball out-of-play?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:19 PM
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I think keeper tried to punt it out high and upfield- conventionally a sign to stop play. I may be wrong because they showed replay over the action.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:24 PM
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But one can infer that was effectively what happened, or some close analog. This they teach you starting in youth leagues, though i bet it galled the hell out of those rough Neds to play nice.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:25 PM
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Someone was hurt, so Spain (who had the ball) kicked it out of bounds to stop play. That gives the ball to the Dutch officially, but sportsmanship dictates that the ball should go back to Spain who already had it. So they just kicked it to the goalie (which gives the ball to Spain but in a way that lets everyone set up so no one has an advantage) but it took a weird bounce and nearly went in and the goalie blocked it. So they got a corner and just gave it back to the goalie as they'd originally intended.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:26 PM
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25: Ah, got it. Thanks.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:27 PM
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The interesting point was what would have happened had the ball *gone in*. The announcers suggested that sportsmanship would dictate letting Spain walk the ball into the goal. But it's hard to imagine a team actually doing that.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:32 PM
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Spain losing the thread.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:37 PM
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Some years ago a Dutch player in the English Premiership actually got into trouble for taking advantage of the opponent being a man down and almost scoring. Everybody including his own team mates barracked him for it.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 1:54 PM
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This better not go to a shootout because I have other things to do today.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:10 PM
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That is what I kind of predicted, though. Except I forgot that I could watch on Univision.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:13 PM
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Neds very effective campaign of hard fouls knocked Esp of their game. That left Esp effectively playing Neds game. Neds have more practice playing that way. Unless Esp looks more like themselves in the overtime, Neds wins. Icky.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:21 PM
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In a shootout, no one wins. Well, except the winners. And I guess the people who enjoy watching a game decided through something other than the kind of game they had been watching.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:26 PM
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I don't care how we win the game, as long as we do.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:29 PM
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Uh, guys, you're supposed to go to the other side of the field.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:31 PM
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Damn this game is getting messy.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:31 PM
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Also, the Spanish dudes are so small next to the hulking Neds! Looks like an U16 vs adult game.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:33 PM
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Yet another confirmation of the rule that third place games are more exciting.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:34 PM
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The Joy of Cesc? No. Wide right. Laces out, Fabregas.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:35 PM
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& besides, the dutch have so much moral superiority in football they can burn a bit.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:36 PM
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||"That was back when you were either a communist or a shithead." -Bave Dee on Paul Robeson
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Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:41 PM
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Some years ago a Dutch player in the English Premiership actually got into trouble for taking a
dvantage of the opponent being a man down and almost scoring

The gentlemanly US Senate is said to have similar decorum.

Why does Google give more celebration balloons to Spain ?
http://www.google.com/logos/worldcupfinale10-hp.gif


For a second overtime, the Dutch team can add three Germans and the Spaniards can add three
from the Oriental Republic of Uruguay, according to my neighbor who has been refilling his stein.


Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:47 PM
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8 yellow cards for Neds.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:47 PM
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¡Gol!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:48 PM
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Hey, my flash player just crashed. But the yelling from an apartment across the block suggests a goal.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:48 PM
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A beaut from Iniesta.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:54 PM
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Someone wins! Now I can leave happy.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 2:55 PM
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mwahaha


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:00 PM
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ok, but who won?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:04 PM
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The spirit of international cooperation won.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:06 PM
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I'm certainly not going to check myself.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:06 PM
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Spain won, for those with a more concrete focus.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:07 PM
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Emerson will be upset.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:09 PM
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Look at all the crying and man-love. Clearly this a foreign sport.

I'm relieved it's over. I've had an earworm going on for three weeks involving the phrase "world cup" set to the tune of Deee-lite's "World Clique".


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:12 PM
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Torres came on just in time to get hurt again. So his personal streak lives on.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:12 PM
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For a long time the phrase "muscular innovations" appeared in a draft of a chapter.

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Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:14 PM
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I loved the announcer's reference to one of the Dutch player's "sarcastic walking."


Posted by: JennyRobot | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:20 PM
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54 was me. Stupid iPhone.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 3:21 PM
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We're having a debate as to whether the official World Cup song is the K'naan "When I get older..." song, or some Shakira song called Waka Waka that I've never heard before and seems clearly worse. Anyone?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 4:47 PM
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I thought atonal tooting on those big, plastic horns was the official song.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 4:54 PM
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Even I know that the Waka Waka song is the official one, for lo, I heard a lovely and charming NPR interview with the people who perform it (not the Shakira component, but a group called, I believe, Freshly Ground). Waka Waka means a variety of things in african lore, and people remember it from childhood.

57: "sarcastic walking" is good.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 5:00 PM
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people remember it from childhood

What kid doesn't love Fozzie Bear?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 5:23 PM
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56: Like the dancing-hulagirl tattoo?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 5:27 PM
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Viva Espana!


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 9:41 PM
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A bit late with that, I know. Still.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 9:41 PM
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59: Apparently there were a half-dozen version of the K'naan song. They're all linked in this rather political post.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 9:58 PM
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Bave and Smearcase and I got drunk and went down to Coney Island, where Smearcase and I went skinny-dipping. It was some salve for that loss, and some celebration for S, who supported Spain. Bave was unable to partake, being agnostic about the whole existence of "sport."


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 10:17 PM
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Sport exists. It's just a little hard to care who wins.


Posted by: Bave | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 10:43 PM
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It was some salve for that loss

van Bommel and de Jong killed whatever affection I might have had for the Dutch team. Their winning would have been a travesty.

(Or, as someone put it more pithily on Twitter when Iniesta scored: "Fuck you Holland. Die in hell.")


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:07 PM
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I agree with 68 and was only vaguely for Spain and that at all because I kept thinking about tortilla espanola and Almodovar and La Sagrada Familia and my hot Madridnik conversation section teacher five years ago at Middlebury and stuff, and don't have many favorite Dutch things. The skinny dipping was less a celebration of Iberian victory and more a continuation of the genteel depravity of the preceding 24-36 hours and also me taking advantage of being around people who make me feel spontaneous. This suddenly feels oddly personal for the comments section or at least this thread. Eh, so be it.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:28 PM
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Sadly, the Buster Keaton Coney Island film does not appear to be online in its entirety.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:33 PM
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…Madridnik?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:35 PM
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Little joke from Woody Allen's Love and Death that for some reason really amused a lot me and pops up in my speech.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-11-10 11:42 PM
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All the van Bommel hatred comes from sour losers who thought Wanye Roony was the world's best striker and needed something to bitch about after their pathetic little team once again flamed out.

But we're not bitter.

Goddammit Spain.

Can't even hate them properly. I wanted Spain to do well, but not this well. At least it wasn't Portugual.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 12:11 AM
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68 is about where I'm at.

It's profoundly odd for me to see my peers turn out for sports. I'm not the most alienated person I know by far. I think of myself as having ended up almost disappointingly well-socialized. I feel like there's a kind of stunted political growth that never gets past "nerds vs jocks", and I'm wary of it. But then something like the World Cup comes along, and I'm all whoa! All these people whom I thought were actually more alienated than I suddenly flock to bars to cheer teams! Vertigo, I tell you.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 12:17 AM
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70 makes me want to RTFA of Mister Smearcase.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 12:18 AM
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On the appreciation of sports and arts, I just read Hazlitt's "The Indian Jugglers" and recommend it.

I have to admit I'm sometimes surprised by people who pay attention only to spectacles like the Olympics or the World Cup. I don't follow every Olympic sport or all of World Cup qualifying, or even all of the Champions league or other club leagues anymore, but I feel like I watch enough to maintain a connection. Unlike a sport like baseball, where I watched only the playoffs for a while and then pretty much stopped altogether.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 12:31 AM
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There was supposed to be a link to the Hazlitt.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 12:32 AM
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Talking about nekkid people, I just watched Bertolucci's The Dreamers. I was pleasantly surprised, what I'd read hadn't led me to expect much, but it was a really tender and sweet film about, in the end in spite of all the weirdness, soixante-huitard gauche caviar incestuous weirdness, was about first love and infatuation. It also did the full on nudity and sexual explicitness in a good way that wasn't pornographic, but rather an integral part of the story. That in contrast to Lust, Caution which I saw last week and which took the sex well over the line to soft-core porn. (No, I hadn't intentionally placed two NC-17 flicks right after another in my Queue, it just happened.) I'm not sure if non-film buffs who haven't done the time in repertory cinemas will find it as much fun, but who knows.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 1:13 AM
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ok, but who won?

The fucking octopus, as always.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 4:04 AM
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It seems the creative edits have begun.

Van Bommell can still be seen in this years world cup practicing his particular form of butchery. His preferred cuts of meat are ankle, shin, knee and thigh and he prefers his meat tenderised.

Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 5:06 AM
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At least Casillas scored, all over the internet.

& was the small white-ish creature who scored born in Area 59?

Finally it's a miracle that the only Spanish player to walk off the pitch injured wasn't actually fouled in a butcherish way. So much for the world's perception of the Netherlands; reality is in line with perception, once again.


Posted by: Earnest O'Nest | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 6:15 AM
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or the boring comments to the point of everything being bo-reeeng.


Posted by: Earnest O'Nest | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 7:43 AM
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ok, but who won?
The fucking octopus, as always.

Excerpt from the unfinished script of The Seven Spongebobs.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 8:04 AM
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Less than a year till the Women's World Cup in Germany - soccer that the U.S. is actually good at.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 8:12 AM
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En propria meta.


Posted by: Earnest O'Nest | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 8:17 AM
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I'm not sure if non-film buffs who haven't done the time in repertory cinemas will find it as much fun, but who knows.

so what's the prerequisite class for The Dreamers? I half-watched it several years ago, but in a state of prejudicial harrumphiness.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 8:54 AM
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74: can you hear that violin? I thought the Dutch were aiming to be this year's Brazil, the disappointing and surprisingly cynical and vicious eventual winners. Germany were this year's Holland, the best team in the tournament who never win it. Brazil were this year's England, overhyped failure. England were this year's Slovakia - just happy to get out of the group. I expected Spain to be more like, well, Spain - chokers. But perhaps I meant I expected them to be this year's Portugal.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 9:01 AM
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88 is making me make myself dizzy.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 9:04 AM
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88 is making me make myself dizzy.

It's easy-peasy, Bear. The US was this year's, uh, Florida!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 9:23 AM
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Once the World Cup got down to Spain v. Netherlands, I definitely wanted Spain to win. (Among other reasons, Dutch = Afrikaaners in my mind, unfair though that may be to current generations of the Dutch. Plus, they were acting like dicks.)

But, oh, how I wanted Ghana to hang on.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 9:49 AM
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91.2: That was such a painful ending.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 9:56 AM
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I thought the official World Cup song was that five-second-long "I-a-wa Ma-wa-re" thing that accompanys the 2010 logo with its 2005 copyright.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 07-12-10 9:59 AM
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