Well, it was an inevitable consequence of "Swing the baby till something dislocates" Night.
Or was she trying to change her own diaper? I thought toddlers were flexible enough to do that, and just refused on principle.
Tug O' Baby seeemed like a great idea.
Perhaps the Geebies were trying to settle the ancient debate over the relationship between stretched size and that fully engorged.
It sounds like everyone's doing fine, so huzzah! And the part of little-kid-me that secretly wanted to have the "I broke a BONE!" notch on my belt is totally jealous.
My brother popped his elbow out of his socket at around the same age, sitting on someone's lap doing 'row row row the boat'. Flung himself backwards a tad too violently, and ping. I gather it's quite common. The hospital did ask lots of questions, though.
HP then and later then. Just learned--started as an ice cream topping. Also ownership chain: Pacific Hawaiian->Reynolds Tobacco->RJR Nabisco->Del Monte->Cadbury Schweppes->Dr. Pepper Snapple.
HP a bit later still (from the Max Headroom era). To which Mark Mothersbaugh claims he added "Sugar is bad for you" as a subliminal message.
Oy, glad everything's OK. My wife keeps sternly reminding me not to pick the kids up by the arms and swing them around, but it's so easy! And fun! And wheeeee!
Memories of when my daughter (then age 4) gave my son (then age 2) the dread "nursemaid's elbow" and we had to take him to the ER to pop it back in. Neither child seemed to be particularly traumatized (at least compared to ms bill and me).
Neither child seemed to be particularly traumatized (at least compared to ms bill and me
Yeah, when Rory broke her arm at 2, she handled it way better than I did. She had stopped crying before we even got to the car to rush to the urgent care; I was hysterical. To be fair, her forearm was bent about 45 degrees...
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Hi Heebie, the email address you gave me doesn't seem to be working. What you suggested sounds fine.
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Sorry to hear about HP.
Sorry to hear about the arm. Hope you got the extended 18 month warranty.
17: Depending on the brand, they might send a factory refurb to replace the damaged goods.
And the part of little-kid-me that secretly wanted to have the "I broke a BONE!" notch on my belt is totally jealous.
It's not all it's cracked up to be. [little-kid-me would be laughing uncontrollably after saying that.]
I'm glad HP is doing well. I was worried for a while after Hurd turned in his resignation, but it appears that my fears were unfounded.
Few people know this, but ever since resigning, he's been pursuing transglobal rocket flight, all part of a daring quest to be known as the Hurd shot 'round the world.
If you're going for "so bad it's good," I think you've managed it.
Poor Punchy. Good thing you had the foresight to work on a spare.
And yet it took only 24 comments to break the blog.
Blogs are much more fragile than babies.
But they produce equally prodigious amounts of crap.
16: The heebie dot geebie at gmail one didn't work? Huh. Do you have an email address you share on these corners of the blog?
Glad to see HP is fine. For me broken bones were not nearly so traumatic as when the asthmatic kid got pneumonia and had to be ambulanced to the hospital because he just about stopped breathing. Or when about 13 years later that same one had to be ambulanced to the ER passed out dead drunk and not breathing so well when he snuck into a college student party. I was still so utterly freaked about that one a week later that I mentioned it to some of my students, who told me to chill because it happens all the time. Acid freakouts seem mellow in retrospect.
28: Did he remember that to type "shift + 2" instead of 'at'?
So have you started getting suspicious glances and hostile stares yet??
28,30
It appears it needed to be gmail.com (instead of gmail) to work.
29.last What?! Getting seriously drunk as a normal part of the teenage experience, sure, but getting drunk to the point of needing to be rushed to the ER because the person can't breathe?
32: I was this close to being useful.
I broke my arm when I was 6 years old, running down the hall in my stocking feet and then I tripped over one of my sisters (who was lying across the floor playing with a doll). It was a pretty bad break (I think my forearm was at some awful angle that terrified my mother), and then I choked on the anaesthetic and they had to pump my stomach, and kept me in hospital for three or four days. I was afraid of the nurses (that briskly determined attitude of good cheer has always seemed suspicious to me), but I'm pretty sure I was not traumatized. My left arm is still a little bit crooked from the break, but only if you look closely, and there have been advances in medicine since then.
Poor HP! but I'm sure she'll be absolutely fine.
so sorry to hear about hp! hope she is better soon.
Hope you got the extended 18 month % warranty.
Fixed that for you.
Poor little mite. Hope she's better soon.
At least a bone broken so very young should probably reknit together without much difficulty, right?
I've never broken anything but creak and ache with the changing weather enough as it is.
Poor little wee one. I hope HP heals up quickly.
Legally, can our daycare refuse to take Hawaiian Punch while she has a cast on?
The doctor said for her to stay indoors so that she doesn't get sand down her cast or get too sweaty under there. At daycare, the mean administrator said that if the baby group wasn't full, she was welcome to go next door during outdoor time, but if the baby group was full, we'd have to keep her home.
I'm pretty sure outdoor time is mandated for the toddler group, so they couldn't just have the toddlers spend all day indoors. By "full", she means that you're not allowed legally to have more than 10 babies in the baby room. Right now they have 8. So she was saying that if two babies are signed up while Hawaiian Punch has a cast on (which, if it's fractured, could be longer than the 2 week initial period), we'd have to keep her home.
So potentially she's threatening for us to keep HP home for weeks on end.
Obviously they could pay for an extra person in the daycare room.
Jammies already sent an email to some official Texas state website to clarify what our rights are. And most likely this is an empty threat, because it's probably just 2 weeks, and they probably won't get two new babies.
Mostly I'm just incredibly annoyed that she threatened this.
This sounds to me like a 'whaddaya going to do' issue. Maybe there's a Texas regulatory authority that will come down on them for refusing to take HP when she's got a cast (if they do end up refusing). But in the absence of some Texas-specific regulatory requirement, which I doubt exists, they can do pretty much what they like, and how it would come out if you sued over it doesn't mean much practically.
Oh, that sounds incredibly frustrating, heebie! I hope now that her arm's popped back in the cast can come off soon and she'll be fine.
refusing to take HP when she's got a cast
If I understand correctly, the issue isn't the cast, but that she can't go outside, which would mean finding an extra teacher to stay inside with her during outside time if there isn't room in the baby class (which almost certainly has a state-mandated teacher-to-baby ratio).
Legally, can our daycare refuse to take Hawaiian Punch while she has a cast on?
"Sorry, but it just gives her too much of an edge in close combat with the other kids."
This I remember from my own broken bones. Big hard plaster cast on the end of your arm like the Right Hand of Doom. WHACK.
45: I was just thinking there must be some Harrison Bergeron-esque solution here. Casts for everyone!
OT: Is everyone else singing the title of this post to themselves to the tune of "There must be fifty ways, to leave your lover"?
Me again. I don't know where my name keeps going.
48: The site is slightly borked. "c.statcounter.com" hangs and hangs and until it loads, your info doesn't either. This is oudemia, whose name won't show up.
44 is correct, but it could also be framed as "refusing to accomodate doctor's orders".
Just snap off a limb, Jim.
Feed her some dirt, Kurt.
Splash her with lye, Guy,
And there'll be no daycare fee.
Throw her under a bus, Gus,
And you won't hear her fuss much!
Leave her under a tree, Lee,
And get yourself free.
51: I gotta say that I can't see the general basis (barring a specific Texas regulation) for saying they're responsible for accommodating doctor's orders when it would be a significant expense.
51: Now in my tenth year of preschool dealings, I'm sympathetic. I never get to use vacation time for vacations, because they're all eaten up with days where one kid has had a low-grade fever and so must be kept home for 24 hours, or teacher workdays, etc. But it's asking a lot of a daycare to hire additional staff to accommodate a single child. The baby room compromise seems like a reasonable attempt to find a middle ground.
48: I don't know where my name keeps going.
Does anyone know where their pseudonym goes
When c statcounter dot com hangs for hours?
53: But isn't that an argument against all ADA accomodations? Certainly maybe ADA doesn't cover temporary broken bones, but that argument isn't always honored.
I might be wrong, but I think ADA just covers the physical facilities themselves rather than staffing, doesn't it?
56: First, you're right about ADA not covering temporary injuries.
Even if it did: I'm not sure about the public-accommodation side of the ADA; the only work I've done has been on the employment side. On the employment side, though, you don't need to make an accommodation if it's unreasonable, and needing to hire another worker to support a disabled worker would mostly be unreasonable.
I really don't think they'd actually need to hire another worker. There are always floating workers that are tacked onto extra rooms as kids come and go, to cover staffing requirements.
My real fear is that they won't put much creativity into trying to find a solution, since they could just send her home. Like, if there are 6 toddlers and 2 staff people, they could easily break the group in half and go outdoors in two shifts. But I don't know if they would.
Also, the problem is that I already don't like this woman.
I'm guessing it's the same woman who gave you a hard time about phoning ahead to alert them you'd be a minute or two late, or whatever.
63: The very same! What a slut!
63, 64: Link? I want to hate this woman too, but am not really feeling it yet.
Also, just to argue, there are plenty of staffing requirements for ADA accomodations at Heebie U, which is also private (like daycare). Things like testing accomodations, someone to take notes for you, etc. And arms-in-casts are definitely covered.
Hate her here. She may not seem super-hatable in that post, either, but trust me. She's mean.
And arms-in-casts are definitely covered.
In plaster. Duh.
Aw crap. Livejournal is blocked here. Oh well, I'll just go ahead and hate her. But if it turns out later that she's not really hateworthy, there'll be hell to pay, heebie.
I was at the dentist, and the tech was comparing different day cares and telling me about her debates, and I told her we went to HP Care, and she said "I heard they're really mean about being late." So she's even got a reputation around town.
I hear that she doesn't like cats.
69: It's probably easiest if I just give you directions and you could take her out to lunch or something, and engage her in conversation. The truth will out.
72: Give me her phone number too, in case I'm running a little late.
take her out to lunch [...] The truth will out
PROTIP: focus on whether she switches the knife to her right hand when cutting up food.
66: The ADA requires different things of organizations/businesses of different sizes. Universities are assumed to have the wherewithal to provide many more accommodations than most other places. Depending how big the daycare is (or really, how much of a profit it makes), it probably isn't responsible for any accommodations, employment or public access, that cost any money at all.
We do, it's true. That makes sense.
Any way you could find HP a different daycare, and just be like, you know, you are not accommodating enough, we don't like you, goodbye?
Any way you could sneak into mean woman's home and mess with her clocks so that she's late to work?
Also, to guard against more babies being added to the baby group, you could post a bunch of terrible reviews online about the place.
Any way you could find HP a different daycare, and just be like, you know, you are not accommodating enough, we don't like you, goodbye?
The very few times I've been irritated at our day care, I've had this thought, and then the next thought was of them laughing and waving their months-long waiting list as we left in a huff.
We're on the waitlist for the super-stimulating state university affiliated daycare. So I wouldn't want to disrupt HP's routine and then immediately do it again, if that came through. But if that comes through, I'll definitely let them know it's because we think they're mean unaccomodating.