Re: Two idiotic things

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The 2nd link has made my day. I feel a need to quote so some of it is preserved forever.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 10:48 AM
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I have to confess I'm a little bit sad that I'm making Gary in Kentucky happy.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 10:54 AM
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Successful boycotts have a list of demands that can be met in order to call off the boycott and an organizational infrastructure that can build the boycott, create public demonstrations, etc. I detect neither of these things, therefore I can not recommend this boycott.

However, I could be persuaded that "suck my cock" and "whine on the internet" are sufficient, though implicit, responses to my posed criteria.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 10:55 AM
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I can kind of understand the personal effects argument, though I disagree with it. But I can't see how the court can square a ban on warrantless searching briefcases for papers with allowing searches of mobile phone data. Surely the contents of a briefcase are also personal effects. A mobile phone in a briefcase is legally protected, but one in a pocket isn't? But then I don't understand US privacy jurisprudence in general.

As the article hints at the end, the solution is pin/password protection. Well, the solution is nominating a Supreme Court that respects privacy rights, but anyway.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 10:55 AM
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Can ->YOU

Er... California Supreme Court justices Tani Gorre Cantil-Sakauye, Carol Corrigan and Joyce Kennard - all of whom are American, and women - think that cellphones can be searched without a warrant.
This is wrong!
No foreign woman would make such an opprobrious decision, were she a judge!
Therefore, boycott all American women, whether on the California Supreme Court bench or not!
(Except of course for Kathryn Werdegar, who dissented from the ruling.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 10:55 AM
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2: Don't worry, Thorn. Gary doesn't really want American women to become lesbians. This is just his confused way of playing hard to get.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 10:59 AM
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What are two items that have never been in my kitchen?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:03 AM
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All judges being epically old is a problem. Judging, like tenured professorships, needs some form of mandatory retirement to work.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:13 AM
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7: Cliff?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:26 AM
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That was a great episode.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:36 AM
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I like James from USA:

Save your money and marry an asian woman or a eastern European woman. You won't be disappointed.

Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:38 AM
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10: Yes. Probably my favorite.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:39 AM
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11: If you save enough money, why not get one of each?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:40 AM
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If you call right now, we'll double your order!


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:43 AM
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The american women today only care about their next orgasm.

Short-sighted!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:43 AM
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Henry from California is touchingly pathetic:

i've never met any women other than american women, but [...] i couldn't imagine women from any other country being any worse than american women.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:46 AM
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13: Shit, if only I'd thought of that instead of going for the hybrid Eurasian model.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:47 AM
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Wow, American women are really missing out on some of the best prizes in the dating scene. They had better reform their ways!


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:48 AM
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11: A+++ WOULD MARRY AGAIN


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:52 AM
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AFAIAC the Fourth Amendment is pretty much in tatters already, but this ruling rubs salt in the wound.

Someone, somewhere, has made the sensible suggestion that police be able to avail themselves of one of the exigent circumstances exceptions to the warrant requirement, or the plain view exception, but not both in succession. This would prevent them from using one of the exigent circumstances to pry open a loophole that effectively permits a comprehensive warrantless fishing expedition.

Among other things, it would discourage the police from arresting motorists on trumped up pretexts in order to legally search the vehicle, excuse me, "inventory the contents for impoundment". Sorry gswift, it's nothing personal.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:23 PM
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I think of myself as a 'real' man and I do not have a small penis!

Glad we cleared that up.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:24 PM
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In 20.1, substituting the phrase "has been eviscerated" would mitigate the mixed metaphor somewhat.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:25 PM
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15: The american women today only care about their next orgasm.

Probably true in this guy's experience--the same way that people lost in the desert only care about their next drink of water.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:26 PM
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22: Do you know what it's like to be eviscerated ... and then some rubs salt in your abdominal cavity? Of course you don't, no one does. It never happens. Sorry, that's a dumb question... skip that.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:29 PM
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Many American women cheat on their partners (yes, American men do too, but I know the real statistics and women are almost just as bad).
Anyway, women in America are basically total sluts and whores

Those sluts cheat almost as much as we do!


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:31 PM
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Meh. Easier without a refractory period.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:36 PM
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Just had something happen (99% sure it did--pretty good circumstantial evidence) that I might have thought was a UL if I heard it second-hand. A transponder sent back to NJ E-ZPass for a relative via mail got read and charged (only 55¢ on NJ Turnpike at least) while in a mail truck. There are several mentions on the Internet (one is by snopes, but he only posted a link to a NYTimes metropolitan Diary item) of similar occurrences. (I think when they send them *to* you, they are in foil envelopes and the PA E-Zpass site says, "It is recommended that when returning your E-ZPass transponder that you enclose the transponder in a foil bag".) In retrospect, I should have thought of it--glad they didn't take the PA Turnpike (or that it did not get picked up if they did).
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 1:55 PM
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The american women today only care about their next orgasm.

Even when they live abroad, they seem to feel entitled to seventeen or so.

*sneeze*alameida*sneeze*

(The "cough" thing seems so tired. Thought I'd mix it up.)


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:12 PM
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Shorter Those Guys: "American woman, stay away from meee-eeee."


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:14 PM
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It is recommended that when returning your E-ZPass transponder that you enclose the transponder in a foil bag.

You've just given me a good idea for a great practical joke/crime assuming the transponder is something you can get to from outside of the car.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:16 PM
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27: Ha! Yeah, they mail them in foil pouches, which they instruct you to keep for any future mailing (or, failing that, to wrap them in tinfoil for return).


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:16 PM
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And, of course, you should cover your head with foil whenever you go to New Jersey.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:32 PM
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When they mailed me my transponder, it got read on the way to me, despite being in the foil pouch.


Posted by: Light Rail Tycoon | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:42 PM
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Whoa. Where am I? Who are you people?


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:43 PM
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It's a welcome change from US exceptionalism; you'd expect them to be saying "American women are horrible, therefore ALL WOMEN EVERYWHERE must be horrible, because there is no way that any other country's women could be superior to ours! USA! USA!"


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:50 PM
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*sneeze*alameida*sneeze*

Oh snap! Brilliant intertextuality.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 2:51 PM
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because there is no way that any other country's women could be superior to ours! USA! USA!

Canadians cross the border just to get with our women, because theirs are rationed and you have to get on a waiting list.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 3:17 PM
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36: I love you people.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 3:17 PM
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Might it still be a form of American exceptionalism when the sentiment is "wow, things are so horrible here, it must not be like this anywhere else"? We get a certain amount of that from both camps [/Broder].


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 3:22 PM
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Among other things, it would discourage the police from arresting motorists on trumped up pretexts in order to legally search the vehicle, excuse me, "inventory the contents for impoundment". Sorry gswift, it's nothing personal.

Well, "trumped up" implies a falsified charge, and Moby in that thread said outright that he'd been trespassing. What I said was that your ability to avoid a search is small if they've got an arrestable offense. I don't see searching a person incident to arrest ever going away, nor do I think we'll see an end to the practice of making a list of what's in a vehicle before it goes to the impound yard.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the banning use of exigent and plain view in succession. Inventory isn't technically an exigent circumstance but setting that aside, it sounds like you're arguing that the guy whose car is getting impounded gets a pass on the corpse found in his trunk.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 3:52 PM
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Canadians cross the border just to get with our women, because theirs are rationed and you have to get on a waiting list.

And now Cala doesn't comment here anymore. Sigh.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 3:57 PM
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40: And I rarely confess to specific crimes on the net.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 4:47 PM
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For those who don't recall the discussion reference in 40, I want to clarify that 40.2 is a hypothetical addition of gswift's making and not what was in my trunk.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 5:28 PM
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Yes, the guy in Moby's trunk was totally still alive.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 5:38 PM
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A live boy, but still.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 5:41 PM
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The boy who lived.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 5:52 PM
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The boy who lived.

I wouldn't have taken you for a My Dying Bride fan.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:02 PM
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What do My Dying Bride fans usually go for?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:07 PM
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Survivors.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:14 PM
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A search for "Harry Potter" and "My Dying Bride" fails to elucidate 47 for me. I also don't know what the hidden link is between the links in the OP, but I suspect that's a red herring.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:19 PM
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Harry Potter?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:21 PM
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46 is the title of the first chapter and of, Google informs me, various tributes by the Potter-besotted.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:30 PM
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The first chapter of the first book, that is.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:31 PM
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First he lived, then he almost gets killed several times, then he gets killed, then he has a brief discussion with a somebody else who got killed, and then comes back and then doesn't get killed in a much more final way than the other times he didn't get killed.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:41 PM
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Along the way, he is subject to several unjustified searches but no American women.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:43 PM
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Can I just tell the kids that and be done with it? We're only four chapters in, and it looks like a long haul.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:43 PM
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There's other stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:50 PM
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And, if you get the British edition, they can learn how to spell "jail" wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:51 PM
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It all really revolves around the wrath of the Deatheaters because they came up with all the really good spells and curses but they weren't protected by IP laws.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:53 PM
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Anyway, your kids will probably love the Harry Potter books.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 6:57 PM
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What will they think of My Dying Bride?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 7:00 PM
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Don't let the cops make you open the trunk and you'll be fine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 7:04 PM
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Speaking of plain view, here's a tweaker Chappelle like Christmas Day story to tell your kids.

I run plate on a Honda that comes back with revoked registration. As I contact the driver I can see prison ink on his hands, which are trembling and he's obviously pretty amped up. No warrants on him, so now I'm wondering if there's a gun or body or some other damn thing in that car. As I have him step out of the car he's trying to brush something on the front of his clothes without being too obvious about it. Something without a lot of color but not ash. I glance down at the driver's seat and there's a crystals of meth scattered on the seat. Sure enough, the baggie is on the floor with the bottom ripped open like he did it with his teeth.

Naturally he claims it's not his. Now my buddy who was with me on the stop tells everyone I sprinkle meth on people.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01- 5-11 11:04 PM
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The crystal meth fairy!


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 6:25 AM
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Toothless fairy?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 6:32 AM
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63: Heh. That's the fact pattern from one of those fourth amendment 'contraband in plain sight' cases that always made me wonder if we were talking about massively stupid criminals or mendacious cops. That's one for the massively stupid criminals column.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 7:47 AM
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As far as this type of car goes on 4th amendment issues, wouldn't the more contestable area be why the cop ran the plates in the first place? Or can you just run any plate you want?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 7:54 AM
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"car" s/b "search"


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 7:59 AM
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67: Presumably some traffic violation, no? Which gets into the whole "everyone's speeding all the time, so yes, a cop can run any plate they want" issue, but I'd guess g. needs some sort of traffic violation or erratic driving.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:03 AM
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I'd guess that opening your meth while driving is even worse than yammering on the cell phone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:08 AM
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Presumably some traffic violation, no? Which gets into the whole "everyone's speeding all the time, so yes, a cop can run any plate they want" issue, but I'd guess g. needs some sort of traffic violation or erratic driving.

There are machines now that automatically recognize and run license plates so I don't think you need anything.


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:09 AM
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71: Shit. Excuse me, I have to go see PennDot about some paper work.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:10 AM
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everyone's speeding all the time, so yes, a cop can run any plate they want

A cop in a non-rotating reference frame, certainly.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:12 AM
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Picture a cop in an elevator being pulled through space.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:13 AM
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74: that's basically Superman IV, isn't it?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:18 AM
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He's just wailing away on the siren, talking into the CB, but he can't get out of the elevator and he doesn't even know he is in space because the elevator is being accelerated and 9.8 meters per second per second.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:18 AM
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I didn't see Superman IV. After Sophia Coppola's performance in the third one, I lost interest.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:19 AM
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"He didn't stop me because I was driving so fast that my skin tone was blue-shifted."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:20 AM
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Not really a spoiler: Vito Corleone dies at the beginning when the planet Krypton explodes.

(wikipedia tells me that Mario Puzo co-wrote the script for the original Superman film. I did not know that.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:22 AM
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79.2: For all you know, I did know that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:23 AM
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80: I am naturally assuming that you did.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:30 AM
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A car is travelling at the speed of light. If the driver takes meth, what does he see?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:42 AM
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Little Rock, Arkansas.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 8:46 AM
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82,83:I remember it well. And Amarillo.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 9:01 AM
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Okay, Farmville buddies! Who can send me some rope? My garden needs help!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 9:05 AM
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OT:

Man, everyone's favorite sensible, moderate, low key, centrist liberal is starting to sound like Bob:

Amazing, isn't it? After nearly destroying the world, the plutocrats just dipped into their petty cash accounts, funded a tea party movement dedicated to promoting their interests, and won the next election. Problem solved! Now, where should we have dinner tonight? Paris or Rome?

Not that I disagree with him, but from Drum, that's harsh.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 9:24 AM
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He's talking about Republicans, LB. That's a key difference.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 9:37 AM
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I liked this (I think from the original Freeland article), I spoke to Mikhail Khodorkovsky, at that moment the richest man in Russia. "If a man is not an oligarch, something is not right with him,"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 9:45 AM
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wouldn't the more contestable area be why the cop ran the plates in the first place? Or can you just run any plate you want?

Plates aren't private, we can run every plate we see. Main reason I'm running every older Honda is that they're our most commonly stolen car. A rolling stolen is good fun. Coming back uninsured is grounds for a stop, or like in this case the state had revoked the registration. Often you can pull up the driver's license of the registered owner. If the driver is a reasonable match for the physical characteristics on the license of the owner and that individual has a suspended license or warrants that gets you past the reasonable suspicion threshold to stop the vehicle.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 11:03 AM
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Main reason I'm running every older Honda is that they're our most commonly stolen car.

Also a great way to make sure cheap people pay their auto insurance.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 11:39 AM
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Why older Hondas rather than newer ones? Fewer alarm systems?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 12:23 PM
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91: Old cars need part more often?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 12:43 PM
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Popular cars to customize, easy to move the parts, and very susceptible to jiggler keys.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704009804575308731897655318.html


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 1:16 PM
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I'm sure they're not idiotic, and they're not really things, but the two new siblings at daycare are named Miracle and Messiah.

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:15 PM
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It's sort of shocking how obvious it is that Miracle is a girl and Messiah is a boy.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:21 PM
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Because it's visible when he comes?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:22 PM
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Heh. No, because only little boys have mothers who think they're god.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:24 PM
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97: Old joke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:26 PM
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Duh!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:27 PM
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I just texted Jammies to see what their genders are, and you are exactly right. I'm impressed. Can you guess which one is older?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:28 PM
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98 wasn't a complaint. I like that joke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:32 PM
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That poor little boy faces a lifetime of people cupping a hand behind an ear and saying, "Come again?"


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:32 PM
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100: the girl.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:33 PM
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101: I think I first heard it as a Jewish joke. How do you know Jesus was a Jew? He lived at home all his life and his mother thought he was a god? Something like that? I have also heard the exact same joke with some historical figure who was Italian.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:34 PM
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103: Nope. The boy is older.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:36 PM
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I don't have any other facts about them for you all to guess. Maybe their race?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:37 PM
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104: Sometimes there is something about drinking with 12 friends. More of a family of jokes than a joke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:37 PM
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100: Let's see, it's Not-Tuesday, so you put two missionaries and one cannibal in the boat ... 1/3!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:38 PM
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107: "Do you have a table for 26? I know, there are only 13 of us, but we'd all like to sit on the same side of the table."


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:39 PM
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Hey, do any of you recognize this movie? I remember very little of it. All I remember is one of the head drug dealers (in St. Louis maybe?) wore fantastic plastic brightly colored wigs, like in a 50's flip style.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:41 PM
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105: huh. I would have thought that after the messiah, a mere miracle would be sort of a letdown.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:41 PM
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94: and they're not really things

Well their either property or game animals if I'm understanding the IP discussion correctly.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:43 PM
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112: Just one of them. Pay attention, now.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-11 2:45 PM
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"You may be Messiah, but you're a very naughty boy."


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 1:25 AM
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Today I overheard a philosophy grad student introducing his children. I have already forgotten the name of the girl, but it was something strange for a very white couple, like Conchita (I believe the mother said, "we just call her Coco") and....are you ready? It's not as great as Messiah, but it's still pretty awesome....Chaucer.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 1:39 AM
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Fuck you, clown. Ugh.

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Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 1:57 AM
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111: Yes, I'd have thought that Miracle implied "We didn't even think we could have kids!" and was therefore the older child...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 2:01 AM
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You can't exactly name your first kid "Messiah", and then when the second comes around, name her "Wendy" or "Jennifer." You need a name with oomph. If the second was a boy, I might have gone with "Lucifer"


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 7:25 AM
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Huh. The internet says "Conchita" is short for Concepción. And here I was giggling to myself that it meant, um, something else.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 9:23 AM
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118: or "Judas".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 9:29 AM
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I do hope the mother is named Immaculata or some such.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 01- 7-11 10:15 AM
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