Re: Notes for a contribution to a prolegomenon to an answer to Brad DeLong's refrain

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his world-renown investigative journalism class

For the last time, internet: "renown" is a noun, not an adjective.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 12:21 PM
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I noticed that too, essear. No one cares about editing anymore.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 12:24 PM
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Via Emerson, PBUH?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 12:26 PM
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1: I just assumed it was a typo; is there an actual pattern of intentional use on the internet?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:12 PM
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1: So what you're advocating is for "renown" to be re-nouned?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:15 PM
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1: So is "bottle," restaurant menus.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:15 PM
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4: Yes, I notice it often enough to be really annoyed by it. You can Google "'world-renown' -'world-renowned'" to see zillions of examples. Also, "world reknown" shows up a lot, which might or might not suggest something about the cognitive process that leads to the mistake.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:25 PM
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I'm never going to live this down ever am I.


Posted by: Catherine | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:39 PM
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Are there prestigious schools of marketing? (Serious question.) I'm wondering if the name change is an attempt to trade on journalism's existing prestige - or what remains of it; seems like it wouldn't be that hard to create a marketing and communications program without having to take over a journalism one.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:44 PM
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Having studied at Medill?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:45 PM
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Catherine!


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 1:54 PM
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I like Rocket Pops!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 2:12 PM
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which might or might not suggest something about the cognitive process that leads to the mistake.

ESP


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 2:13 PM
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"How do you get to be renowned? Like, do you have to be nowned first?" -Buffy

"Yes, first there's the painful nowning process." -Willow


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 3:52 PM
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Everyone is already nowned, "renown" ultimately deriving from re + nommer to name, i.e., to name again (to someone), to relate; someone who is renowned is someone about whom things are much related, whose name is much bandied about.

And the use of "renown" as an adjective (rather than "renowned") has a history in the US of A going back to the late 19th century: "1893 Nebraska Bee-keeper Sept. 101/2 Dr. Dzierson, the world renown author and apiarian."

Later, without any prefix, even: "2008 Chicago Tribune (Midwest ed.) 4 Jan. ii. 4/2 The $50 million Crystal Bridges Museum was designed by renown Israeli-American architect Moshe Safdie".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 3:57 PM
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I wish I could get paid to read the OED.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 3:58 PM
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I'm envisioning some kind of infomercial: "for just $10 a month, you can help give the greatest gift of all to those who need it most: sponsor a philosophy PhD so they can know the joy of reading the OED".


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:14 PM
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In re Brad DeLong's refrain, I've thought about mailing him a copy of Manufacturing Consent, but he'd probably just call me up and start bitching about communists or some such.


Posted by: warbler | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:20 PM
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"Brad DeLong called to bitch about communists" sounds like a pretty entertaining outcome, to me.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:26 PM
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We had an OED when I was a lad, but it was the compressed version in the slipcase with the magnifying glass in the little drawer, which made looking anything up a pain. Very disappointing.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:29 PM
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Children in my household were called on to read the tiny type, which was only fair because we'd usually misplaced the magnifying glass.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:37 PM
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We had a full-sized set, but it was in the office behind my parents' bedroom and I never took full advantage of it.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:46 PM
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AcademicLurker

We have lurkers? From academies? They read the stuff? Oh god.

On Moshe Safdie. A few months ago I'd have said he only had one hit building. One is pretty good, really. But now he (or his practice) has two, because there's this big structure in Singapore, which I saw recently, and which is probably set to stick in people's minds like the Empire State Building does.


Posted by: Charlie | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:51 PM
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neb, there was probably a huge porn stash in there, and bondage equipment, so just as well you never went in.


Posted by: Charlie | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:53 PM
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I still have the two-volume edition, which I got for 25 bucks, magnifying glass and everything. I suppose it's time my daughters started using it, because their Beginning Dictionary is a piece of crap.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 4:55 PM
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Clearly I've been too busy lately; it's amazing the things one can learn by checking the Flickr group.
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Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 5:34 PM
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Ooh, even better than Rocket Pops: CHOCO TACOS! THE BEST! (And multicultural!)


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 5:46 PM
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26: That they make Penn State scarves now?


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 6:13 PM
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The Singapore surfboard on clothespins?


Posted by: grackle | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 6:26 PM
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The Vampire Baby of Arabia?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 6:28 PM
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Hm, my comment was lost. Just:

There are some new names posting pictures, it seems. And there are some who are newly named.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:03 PM
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We had an OED when I was a lad, but it was the compressed version in the slipcase with the magnifying glass in the little drawer, which made looking anything up a pain. Very disappointing.

There is no annoyance, only insufficient zeal.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:05 PM
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Clearly I've been too busy lately; it's amazing the things one can learn by checking the Flickr group.

I have deliberately chosen to not ask to join the Flickr group (because, honestly, I'd rather not have faces to go with the names, it feels like cheating), but comments like that test my resolve.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:22 PM
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There is no annoyance, only insufficient zeal Zuul.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:34 PM
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because, honestly, I'd rather not have faces to go with the names, it feels like cheating

I know what you mean, and it's one reason I don't look at the Flickr pool very often.

Well, that, and people keep posting pictures of their bikes! And buildings! And snow! And mountains and signs. Which is to say that there aren't a lot of portraits, if that helps, Nick.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:37 PM
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Actually, it's more of a guideline than a rule...


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:37 PM
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I was surprised to note that there are now 1800 (!) pictures in the group.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:38 PM
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Sometimes people post pictures of things that aren't reported on this blog, though. Because, privacy (I assume).


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:39 PM
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37: That's nothing compared to nosflow's private stock.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 7:39 PM
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37: I know, right? It's not like people have a lot to say around here.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 8:06 PM
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39: "Nos Flow's Private Stock. When you're ready for a real sipping whiskey, you're ready for the finest winter wheat. The richest golden maize. Some old oak barrels we bought at the liquidation sale of an undercapitalized sherry distillery that some guy who worked at Microsoft abandoned. Tones of caramel, saddle leather and the hair of that girl from ninth grade who wouldn't talk to you. Warmth, not bite, for those long evenings by the fire with your red panda Thaddeus Venture. When Nos Flow's great-great-grandfather Ahasuerus Flow founded the Flow Distillery, he wanted to sell liquor to migrant workers and electioneers in the days before women were allowed to vote. Nos Flow carries on that proud tradition with Private Stock. Private Stock. Drink yourself blind."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 8:16 PM
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Excellent.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 8:18 PM
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Through the looking glass in Phoenix. The accompanying poll is a hoot(sob):

Sheriff Joe Arpaio's deputies used armored vehicles, including a tank, to raid the home of a cockfighting suspect. Actor Steven Seagal was riding atop the tank. Do you think the heavy armor was justified, or simply for show -- Seagal's reality show?

Yes, you have to be careful with these suspects
No, it was simply for show
Undecided

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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 8:32 PM
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"Excellent. Like carbon fiber body panels. Thirty-two coats of DuPont Friction-freeTM Base Black. A steering yoke machined from SR-71-quality titanium. Seats without upholstery or springs to add useless 'comfort weight'. Peerless InstabilityTM front-and-rear suspensions. Paddle shifters, just like the Formula One guys know how to use. A couple of computers for stuff. And eighteen cylinders of troposphere-ravaging high-octane trophy-wife-scaring crimes of universal jurisdiction. L'Hirondel Grande Puissance Excelsior. Just like the Grande Puissance, but faster and measurably louder. L'Hirondel: We're Not French; It's a Relatively Obscure Literary Reference."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 8:39 PM
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CHOCO TACOS! THE BEST!

When making Choco Tacos from scratch, remember: Kafka adds flavor.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:12 PM
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OT: Does anyone know what the "21 Questions" thing on Facebook is? A Facebook friend appears to have posted something on my wall answering a question about me, and if I'm to find out what this is about, I must give FB permission to, well, access my data in various ways. Obviously I'm not going to do that.

Oh -- I should just google this thing.

Damn, though, this one FB friend is also the one whose Farmville activities I blocked early on. Don't make me block everything you do at me, woman.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:40 PM
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A nice complete circle: I was looking up the Greek used in the Flickr update being discussed, and it brought me to a work on Google Books with "prolegomenon" in the title.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:41 PM
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Oh, just block it. The application goes through the person's friends list and generates questions like "Would you pay money to see parsimon dance like Michael Jackson?" or "Have you ever wanted to punch apostropher?"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:45 PM
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"Would you pay money to see parsimon dance like Michael Jackson?"

Wait. How much money?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:52 PM
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48: Yeah, okay. I do wish that friend would stop doing that stuff. Her 21 Questions thing was posted on my wall. My Wall! Which remains quiet unless I allow it! Perhaps I can get rid of that as well, then.

A person has standards.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:53 PM
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You were at UnfoggeDConII, Stanley.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-23-11 9:54 PM
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"Would you pay money to see parsimon dance like Michael Jackson?"

No, but I might pay money to see Jarvis Cocker drop his pants in protest at parsimon dancing like Michael Jackson.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 2:26 AM
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio's deputies used armored vehicles, including a tank, to raid the home of a cockfighting suspect. Actor Steven Seagal was riding atop the tank.

This never happens over here in Knifecrime Island, although once the Strathclyde Police Force raided a pub that was open after hours accompanied by Brian Blessed on a hostess trolley.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 3:21 AM
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s/b "Ross Kemp on a spacehopper"?


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 4:10 AM
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Richard Littlejohn on a recumbent bicycle.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 4:43 AM
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No, but I might pay money to see Jarvis Cocker drop his pants in protest at parsimon dancing like Michael Jackson.

I'm pretty sure cocker never actually dropped his pants. he just waved.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 4:52 AM
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the fact that I know that detail is rather worrying.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 7:11 AM
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that building is...well, it's memorable. when it was going up, locals were disturbed by the perceived likeness of the three building/columns to ancestor tablets, but now that they've gone and smushed an entire cruise ship on the top people appear to be mollified.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 03-24-11 9:21 PM
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Posted by: toryburch | Link to this comment | 03-25-11 2:49 AM
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This never happens over here in Knifecrime Island, although once the Strathclyde Police Force raided a pub that was open after hours accompanied by Brian Blessed on a hostess trolley.

No, our coppers are too busy shooting backpackers to worry about SWAT raids on cockfighters.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-25-11 6:44 AM
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60: ?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-25-11 7:59 AM
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58: Ah, that's the place with the "infinity" swimming pool on top that got many of us vicariously afeared when I linked it here before.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-25-11 4:38 PM
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