They blithely ignored Wisconsin's open meetings law getting this passed. Why should they stop now? How many divisions has the Wisconsin Supreme Court*?
* Although if Judge Bitch-set-me-up gets re-elected, I presume they're not an obstacle to begin with.
How many divisions has the Wisconsin Supreme Court*?
Read the post thoroughly, I see.
Just to be clear, while the post does contain multiple questions, the one for legal minds is the first.
2 - On the contrary, your writing dissolved into invisibility, which I hear from Chris Ware is the essence of great art.
Sadly, neither the California bar nor years of legal education covered in detail the technicalities of when a Wisconsin law becomes published, so I don't think I can add value here, and no I will not abuse my Westlaw subscription for this purpose.
On the other hand, I can say that no Court looks kindly at all on another court's order being willfully violated; I have a hard time imagining that the anti-collective bargaining law would be enforced by a court when another judge has a pending preliminary injunction in effect preventing its enforceability. The right thing to do would be to get the original court to change its mind or have the Wisconsin Supreme Court rule on the PI (or maybe it's a TRO, not sure). I understand the Wisconsin Supremes will be looking at the PI immediately anyway, so this is almost certainly a non-issue.
Especially interesting considering that the agency responsible, the Legislative Reference Bureau, is supposed to be nonpartisan (though the legislature still runs it).
Someone on Metafilter claims to have seen a tweet maintaining that there's a difference between publication by the Legislative Reference Bureau and publication by the Secretary of State.
So, you know, take that for what it's worth.
The Wisconsin Republicans are pretty clearly against democracy and also sort of a vanguard party. Maybe they just won't hold the recall (if any) or general elections. Who's going to stop them?
Fuck the Chief Justice! How many divisions does she have?
Is someone who just graduated from law school a "barely legal mind"?
"Barely legal" is a locution that really seems as if it should refer to someone or something who is just on the verge (heh) of becoming legal, not someone or something which has only in the very recent past become legal.
The Wisconsin Republicans are pretty clearly against democracy
Huh? Against the rule of law, sure. But against democracy? By confirming in force majority-approved legislation?
12 gets it exactly wrong. Could "barely legal" refer to someone not yet legal? No.
And I'm not just saying that because I subscribe to the magazine, for the hi-fi reviews.
14 is correct. I don't know what I was thinking. I hang my head in shame.
14: The lawyers for a million pron sites agree.
Put 14 and 15 and 17 together and you have ... 46.
13: Ok, fine, I'll accept the amendment. I don't care enough to argue over the precision of epithets.
I can't wait to find out what 46 is.
Researching... yes, it seems like it procedural assent from the SoS might be a barrier to its going into force in this case. The Constitution says "No law shall be in force until published" (IV, §17(2)). Statute 14.38(10)(a) says the SoS shall "[n]o later than the next working day following the deposit of an act in his or her office, provide written notice to the legislative reference bureau of the act number and date of enactment, and the designated date of publication of the act under s. 35.095." And statute 13.92(1)(b)(4) names publishing of enacted bills as a duty of the LRB, and that "[u]pon receipt of notice from the secretary of state under s. 14.38(10)(a), the [LRB] shall enter the act number, date of enactment and date of publication of each act on the camera-ready copy and deliver it to the contract printer for reproduction. "
Incidentally, the Wisconsin LRB has a pretty interesting history. There wasn't really any legislative reference,* or non-partisan bill drafting, like it before it was created.
*Dewey in Albany only sort of counts.
Hey, that is indeed interesting - U.S. Legislative Reference Service, now CRS, birthed by two Wisconsinites.
Oh, and I didn't mean to be so touchy in 19. I do think democracy's only a useful concept when attached to some kind of rule of law, and I wouldn't call the voting procedures that passed the bill shining examples of democracy in action.
Perhaps the locution you had in mind was 'nearly legal', Ben. Understandable!
Also, the music here isn't as bad as we suspected.
6, 28: What is the essence of grey tart? I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Also, the music here isn't as bad as we suspected.
Du solltest Leute kennenlernen! Weg mit dem Handy!
Oh, and I didn't mean to be so touchy in 19. I do think democracy's only a useful concept when attached to some kind of rule of law, and I wouldn't call the voting procedures that passed the bill shining examples of democracy in action.
No offense taken. I wish I could be unreservedly vituperative, the situation certainly calls for it, but time and time again I keep checking to make sure that our insults are scrupulously accurate.
ja, aber die bestimmte frau ist leider nicht hier. Kein sorge, ich tänze.
The lawyers for a million pron sites agree.
And the promoters of a million pron sites nod in quiet satisfaction, knowing that the connotation of those words is possibly actually illegal.
When someone purposefully violates a restraining order, you go to court and ask for contempt sanctions, which can include imprisonment. The sanctions continue until the party is in compliance with the order. The merits of the issue -- whether the restraining order should have been granted in the first place -- don't really matter.
I wish I could be unreservedly vituperative
That's my special talent.
Law published, Thugs win. Again.
Rove said it, they change the facts on the ground. Look aroun, at New Hampshire maybe. Get a Democratic super-majority in Wisconsin, so you honestly think everything in the budget or union bills will be 100% reversed, with maybe even stronger worker protection and expanded social services? R. O. T. F. L.
2 steps backward, one step forward, Rethugs have temporary losses built in to their strategy.
I never really took the Wisconsin (Egyptian, Tunisian, etc) revolutions seriously at all.
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iphone question
The other day I lost my clamshell phone, and the volume was turned off. I managed to track it down at a hospital lost and found even after the first person I called at the desk told me that they didn't have it.
Still, I'm lusting after the tracking option, the option to override silent mode, and the message to call another number to report the phone's whereabouts. Plus, I just generally have wanted a smartphone for a while.
I'd been wanting to go with Verizon, because they have a plan which includes Canada, but AT&T has now reintroduced theirs. Help deciding between the two?
Current PROs for Verizon
1. Generally excellent phone service
2. Unlimited Data Plan Option
3. Insurance Option through Verizon covers lost/stolen phones as well as damage.
CON for Verizon
1. Not yet able to access LTE network.
2. CDMA phone
PRO for AT&T
1. cheaper data plan
2. Better reception for my BF at work. (His new office building has a design which seems to block cell phone reception. The company uses AT&T for company-issued blackberries, so there are boosters in the building.)
It seemed like a slam-dunk to go for 4G service with Verizon, but I don't know when they'll be able to roll that out for the iphone.
We probably wouldn't make a change until July or August. Does anyone have a sense of where AT&T's network will quality-wise then?
We'd probably up our minutes (no unlimited when you want Canada) and drop vonage, if we did it.
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Go with Verizon. Call BF at work on his landline. Or his company issued blackberry.
On the other issue, I don't see why Republicans doing what they tend to do should take the wind out of anybody's sail. So they published the law. The fight isn't over. It's never over. This should be invigorating.
I have had and liked Verizon for many years. I did get a non-CDMA phone from them -- it's the Droid 2 GSM, which maybe just means it's a CDMA that can work on overseas networks, not sure.
I never really took the Wisconsin (Egyptian, Tunisian, etc) revolutions seriously at all.
Do let us know when you're taking something seriously in the future. Kthx.
39:Serious
A scenic seaside city echoed with gunfire Saturday as protesters defied government forces in Syria's second day of nationwide unrest, burning tires, attacking businesses and setting the offices of the ruling party aflame.
Burn shit down and take their stuff. A revolution that protects private property and respects business contracts...not so serious. That's a coup, or hostile takeover.
Yglesias ..."The Emerging Conservative Coalition in Egypt" ...March 25th
It is also clear that the young, educated secular activists who initially propelled the nonideological revolution are no longer the driving political force
After you ally with the military to decapitate the regime, you must immediately split the soldiers from their officers. You do that with class war and destruction of the petty bourgeois.
Otherwise the officers ally with the petty bourgeois and the religious right and the people lose. See France, Thermodorian Reaction, White Terror, Napoleon, millions dead.
text--he's not high-enough up to get a blackberry. He can call out on a landline, but I can't call him. Plus, the landline is at the cubicle, not in the [goat barn].
Can an administrator delete the last word in 36? I don't know why I typed that.
Well if there's no landline in the goat barn, that changes everything. Still, I think you should go with Verizon.
Supportive link: Legislature attorney says that their publishing the law doesn't mean it's supposed to go into effect, because the SoS action is a necessary precondition. But Walker is defying this.
BG: depending on your usage, you might save a ton with non-contract plans, e.g. an Android on Virgin Mobile (uses sprint) for $40/mo.