Re: Dyer Maker

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Shouldn't you be posting images of real Polish Easter eggs (pisanki)?

I used to make them with my mother most Easters as a kid. My mom's came out looking like the link, mine not so much.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:32 PM
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Those are awesome, teraz! Is there some trick to it, or do you just have to paint every little detail by hand?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:36 PM
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1: We used to make those in Russian class in hs! (Teacher was Ukrainian.) Fun with wax and candles!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:38 PM
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We tried to make those when I was a kid -- mine were always terrible. It's layers of color blocked off with wax. You plan out your egg beforehand -- white areas, yellow areas, red areas, black areas -- in order from light to dark. Then you cover the white bits with melted wax, and dip in yellow dye. Then cover the yellow bits with wax, and dip in red dye, then cover the red bits with wax, and dip in black dye. When you melt all the wax off, all your colors are visible.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:39 PM
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We are totally trying that this year.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:41 PM
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Paint isn't really the right word there's this stick with a little metal cup with a hole in it. You fill it with wax and you start drawing, then you soak it in a dye. The stuff that got waxed stays white or, if you dipped it in dye before waxing, whatever color that dye was. You can also do nice curlycues using a pin instead of the stylus thingie.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:43 PM
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There is something a little wrong in the fact that early on in the googleimage results for 'pisanki' you get an x rated image.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:46 PM
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You have to admire the commitment that would batik a pornographic image onto an egg with beeswax and dye.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:49 PM
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7: I believe you mean eggs-rated.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:54 PM
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7: Yes, it's well established that one should not masturbate to something that's dyed.


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:56 PM
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Use a pin stuck into a pencil eraser for the drawing tip and a candle for the wax source. Figure-and-ground with a single color is pretty easy; multiple colors with covered areas take a special tool.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 12:56 PM
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We used corks rather than erasers but that was the basic system until my mom found a real kit someplace. And now I'm suddenly tempted to spend my Saturday afternoon making pisanki.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:07 PM
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We know those as Ukrainian Easter Eggs. Ukrainian Orthodox churches will generally sell the supplies (in addition to the wax pen, you need bees wax and special stronger dyes) around this time of year. It's time consuming but lots of fun.


Posted by: Jimmy Pongo | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:10 PM
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to spend my Saturday afternoon making pisanki.

IYKWIMAITYD


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:10 PM
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6: You fill it with wax and you start drawing,

The real trick to it is to use the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM amount of wax, both in the metal cone, and on the egg itself. It is very tempting to heat the cone up and jam it in the wax to get lots of wax in there, and then heat it again to make the wax run. But then you wind up with lots of wax trickling all over your egg, plus usually some ash from the burning. And once there is wax in an area where you didn't want wax? You're pretty much screwed then, tovarisch.

However, if you do mess up your intended design, remember the words of the Ukrainian lady who taught my (not Orthodox) church youth group how to do pisanki: "There are no mistakes, only new patterns." Helluva Zen thought for Ukrainians, but then I guess you'd get to be kinda fatalistic after awhile.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:32 PM
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In the advice category: boil your eggs before you start dying and waxing. If you feel bad about destroying your pretty designs for eating purposes, you can just leave them out and the insides will shrivel up into a little hard ball. The things will last indefinitely (as decoration, not food). Or you can just blow your eggs.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:38 PM
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Thanks to Stanley, I have now looked up the wikipedia entry for that Led Zeppelin song, which I had never known how to pronounce before. And now I am listening to Led Zeppelin. Today is awesome.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:41 PM
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16: If you blow them into a dish, you're all ready for breakfast. Or cake.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:42 PM
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You also can just use a white crayon, but that's less exciting than the whole candles & beeswax scenario.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:45 PM
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Another method is to cover the whole egg in wax and then scratch patterns onto it before dying it or dying it again.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 1:48 PM
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My mom used to carefully clear out the insides and use the egg shells as jello molds. You have to use super concentrated jello if you want it to hold its shape, though. But very pretty when peeled.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:09 PM
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20- I've never been able to get that to work. The residue from the wax is enough to block to dye even after it's been scratched off. However, I've also noticed that the different colors of Ukranian dye packets have very different amounts of adhesivity so maybe I just tried it with the wrong colors and gave up too fast.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:16 PM
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That was fun. Big meeting saying that the budget's been cut 10%, the salary freeze that's been in place for the last four years will continue indefinitely, but to make it up to us they're introducing a new, much harsher set of performance review standards.

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Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:17 PM
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That was fun. Big meeting saying that the budget's been cut 10%, the salary freeze that's been in place for the last four years will continue indefinitely, but to make it up to us they're introducing a new, much harsher set of performance review standards.

At least you had a meeting where they admitted it. Here, because of funding cuts, we're facing a $200 million shortfall on our campus. But when someone asks, "Hey, what's the plan? How are we going to deal with this? Are we going to be furloughed (or worse) again?" we're told not to worry about it. Meanwhile, they keep denying qualified people promotions, citing unwritten standards of excellence that people have never been held to before, which seems like a half-assed way to keep the deficits from growing. Morale has never been higher!


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:21 PM
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23: "You'll get nothing and like it!"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:21 PM
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Anyone in the NY area seized with the desire to dye eggs like this, I've bought supplies in the past from this place, on East 7th street. (Overcome by nostalgia for my youth, I tried doing this with my kids when they were much too young, which is why I remember the place. I wonder if we still have the stuff kicking around.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:26 PM
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I just ran into the NYT viewing-limit on this computer (not my regular one which has sponsored access), cleared browser information, and voila, I got back in. Alternatively, I imagine an incognito window in Chrome would work.

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:33 PM
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I've been trying like hell to hit the NYT viewing limit, but no luck so far.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 2:35 PM
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27-28: New York Times? Isn't that the sleazy rag that did the trailer park gang rape apologist story recently?

Why are we trying to find ways to read it for free, exactly?


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 3:45 PM
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29: Um, because they're still better at summarizing new happenings than most other sources. (And in this case because I'm procrastinating.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:01 PM
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Personally I just want to makes sure I understand all the ways I can fail to give them money.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:11 PM
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I don't think it's appropriate, by the way, to imply that the NYT is a big bunch of rape apologists and that anyone who supports them is supporting that practice. The article was loathsome, but it indicts society just as much as the NYT institutionally; see also Hirschman.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:13 PM
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What's the article in question?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:20 PM
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This one.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:26 PM
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29: Fuck off.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:27 PM
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I'm sure it is, ma'am, but your tattoo is horrifying.
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Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 4:51 PM
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That would be a design challenge for a tattoo artist. Can't say that the tattooer in question nailed it, though.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 5:13 PM
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37: Didn't draw it that well, either.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 5:30 PM
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The last memorable female back tattoo that I saw was of a plump cartoon baby giving the secret devil sign. It was pretty striking.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 6:00 PM
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There's a secret devil sign?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 6:01 PM
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I've already said too much.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 6:24 PM
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I rather like 36; nice combination of realism, Art Nouveau, and standing by one's opinion.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 6:34 PM
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I don't know, on the NYT front, while there appear to be numerous ways to circumvent the paywall, I haven't tried any of them yet, and I must say it's interesting to be without them for all of three days so far. Am I missing something? Does it feel like I am? Not really.*

Contrary to a number of commentators on the subject, I don't think they suck because they want people to pay for something that was once free. Rather, the pay structure is not sensible and seems designed to restructure the Times' readership toward those who are enamored enough of the paper that their eyeballs are worth advertisers' dollars. I can't deny that they may be right there: I blocked ads as it was when I read the Times.

Here's the thing: I'm disinclined, at the moment anyway, to bypass the paywall because I'd be interested to see what would happen if their page hits declined precipitously. They seem more interested in producing results for advertisers than in being the 'paper of record' any longer. If people migrate elsewhere, in large numbers, for news, what does the NYT think about that? Ultimately, I just want them to adjust the pay structure for the online subscription.

* I have had a couple of conversations already in which a friend said, "David Brooks's column today was actually not half bad." To which I reply, "Oh? I'm not reading the Times any more, so that's out of my purview." It gets awkward.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 7:01 PM
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Good grief -- that was longer than I thought.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 7:01 PM
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Low-hanging fruit alert!


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-31-11 7:23 PM
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36. She's going to be pleased with that when she's 50, isn't she?

I don't see any business model which allows traditional newspapers to survive in that role, online or off. If you want the news headlines, you go to a radio/TV site and read the headlines, not the offensive bullshit that follows them; if you want commentary, you know a blogger.

This is why the Guardian appears to be converging rapidly on the Huffington Post.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 1:26 AM
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You people and your fancy eggs. We made plain old American eggs and we liked it.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 2:03 AM
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Can't say that the tattooer in question nailed it, though.

How do you know?


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 4:46 AM
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48: She doesn't know; that's why she can't say it. Though if the coloring is accurate, I wouldn't nail it either.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 5:32 AM
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49: apo is ineligible to command the starship Enterprise...


Posted by: annelid gustator | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 5:43 AM
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KHAAAAAN!!!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 5:51 AM
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I wonder if she has the same problem some people have with big windows (you know, birds always flying into the reflections they think are real birds).


Posted by: Annelid Gustator | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 6:12 AM
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I don't have a problem with big windows ....laydeez.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 6:16 AM
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[I]f you want commentary, you know a blogger.

I suppose I'm dating myself, but, pace whatever the latest argument to appeasement of N/ick D/enton may be, I'm not particularly looking forward to an age when there's nothing to read about current affairs but the bitter fruits of grudge and dudgeon.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 6:18 AM
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52: There are obvious reasons why the relationship wouldn't work out, but there seems to be some potential here.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 1-11 6:55 AM
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