Re: Bossypants

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For a future actress/comedian, befriending a bunch of drama geeks seems like a fairly credible turning point--it's the sort of circumstance that helps a kid realize that there's something she can actually do with all that hilariousness, that people value. Maybe otherwise she would be a talented and hardworking writer, or teacher, or something.

It's more credible than the hot soup story, anyway.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:20 AM
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Adam Carolla comes off as pretty funny in that story. Normally he bugs me.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:21 AM
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She does succomb


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:24 AM
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1: I dunno. It just rang to me like "This is how a hilarious, awkward person survives high school" and not so cause-and-effect as she paints it.

I think, in her case, it's a modesty move. She's over-the-top humble, although I didn't find it annoying.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:25 AM
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I haven't read the book, but I did enjoy her Prayer for a Daughter.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:28 AM
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In Tina Fey's case, it might be hard work and talent, but you don't get to be Ton Loc famous without that plus some kind of extra special luck.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:30 AM
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you don't get to be Ton Loc famous without that plus some kind of extra special luck funky cold Medina.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:31 AM
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And I've been hearing that in my head since I read the post. Stupid long term memory without a "delete."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:35 AM
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Apparently Ton Loc went on to be a well-used voice over guy. He was the shark in those Trident commercials around the time he was on Lovelines, and had done a bunch of other stuff.

His rap career did seem lucky, though.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:36 AM
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5 is great.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:38 AM
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Speaking of voice over guys, I would not have guessed that Mark Hamill was the voice of Fire Lord Ozai in The Last Airbender.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:39 AM
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Hmm. Lots of people befriend drama geeks. Not everyone siezes the opportunities and lessons that affords and runs with 'em.

Women who dont take credit for stuff really annoy me. You're not helping! Goddamn fundamental attribution error gender disparity.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:43 AM
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Normally I wouldn't bother with this, but it's starting to make me twitch. It's Tone Loc (technically Lōc, but that's kind of a pain).


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:44 AM
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It did look off to me, now that you point that out.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:44 AM
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Ton Loc is his morbidly obese cousin.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:45 AM
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Zip Loc is his cousin who suffocated.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:47 AM
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Hem Loc is his cousin who corrupted the youth by introducing the worship of strange gods.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:53 AM
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His sister Ness Loc has been putting up with stupid jokes at doctors' offices for years.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:54 AM
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It just rang to me like "This is how a hilarious, awkward person survives high school" and not so cause-and-effect as she paints it.

I didn't read it as so clearly cause-and-effect. It struck me more like "these are some funny stories about funny nerd people I hung out with, stories that happen to fit into my whole drama geek narrative quite nicely."

While the book has the structure of an autobiography, the things she writes about are clearly chosen for their humor value at least as much as their revelation about Tina Fey's life.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 7:56 AM
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19 is true. It wasn't a huge thing. It may have just been an editor's framing that reminded me of the Tone Loc Trap in a few spots.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:00 AM
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Matt Loc was his cousin who spent most of the 90s grifting the poor-sighted elderly.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:00 AM
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Pop and Loc is his cousin back up dancer.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:03 AM
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I'm in the middle of the book, and while I'm enjoying it, and laughing out loud at it fairly regularly, I am wishing it didn't have the structure it does. It's not satisfying as an autobiography - I don't feel like I'm learning that much about Tina Fey - and it seems like a lot of the themes ("gays I knew in high school" or "absurd things I did to achieve a modicum of make-out time") could be funnier as stand-alone essays.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:04 AM
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Why is "hilarious person hangs out with hilarious and awesome people" supposed to be a story of "surviving" high school?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:07 AM
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She didn't die in high school.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:09 AM
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Women who dont take credit for stuff really annoy me.

This seems reasonable. At the same time, men who take sole credit for their life outcomes are really, really annoying.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:12 AM
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What about men who take credit for women's life outcomes?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:13 AM
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I wonder if she wanted to do it as an autobiography, or if the publisher was like, "no, no, let me tell you what sells." Tina Fey has always struck me as justifiably guarded about her personal life. I mean, as long as she's been TINA FEY.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:15 AM
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Also, things I'd like to see: a movie written by and starring Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Kristen Wiig, and Anna Faris. Bonus points for Rose Byrne (really completely unexpectedly funny in first 5 minutes of Get Him To The Greek) and, now, bc of whoever reminded me of her existence the other day, Rosamund Pike. And Lizzie Caplan.

Get on that, hollywood.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:18 AM
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Throw Aisha Tyler in there, too, while we're at it. Chop chop!


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:20 AM
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Isn't there a movie coming out that seems very close to 29, but with the uncomfortably girly premise of "Bridesmaids"?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:24 AM
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Ugh, Kristen Wiig. I am so tired of her, and I don't even watch SNL that much. She's in like every other sketch playing the same character. That's much more the writers' fault than hers, but I've yet to be impressed with her.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:27 AM
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Bonus points for Rose Byrne

You can almost see her bonus points here.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:27 AM
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I've been here too long when I look at the link in 33 and think "That's Apo's type."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:29 AM
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I suppose it would be asking too much if some of the people in 29 could also make out with each other.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:29 AM
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35: You'd think it wouldn't hurt, but our HR department has issues with that kind of thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:40 AM
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This is a song for two


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:41 AM
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I enjoyed this fairly recent interview of Fey on Freshhhhhhhhhhhh AIIIIIIIR. And she's a Wahoo, though it seems her post-U.Va. time at Second City was more influential at bringing out Teh Funny than was her time studying theater at Mr. Jefferson's U.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:48 AM
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34: Do I have a type? I've generally considered myself an equal-opportunity dirty old man.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:49 AM
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A song for me and you.


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:50 AM
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Do I have a type? I've generally considered myself an equal-opportunity dirty old man.

The type is "revealingly dressed".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:50 AM
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39: Rose Byrne is very Mary-Louise Parker in that photo, who you've swooned over before.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:50 AM
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Because one and one make two!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:52 AM
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I suppose it would be asking too much if some of the people in 29 could also make out with each other.

Again, when I run a studio, this will be a major plot point. Making out is not a plot, you say? Ha. Ha! I'll show you plot. And it will involve making out.

And I think Kristen Wiig often rises above the material she's given, which is why I'm kinda interested to see what she does with her own stuff. I think she may have had a hand in writing Bridesmaids? I mean. I'll be going to see it, girlyness or no. Even if it looked terrible (which it doesn't), I'd kind of feel obligated to go on the "advancing women in comedy" front.

Also, Apo: well done.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:53 AM
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Um. Who doesn't swoon over Mary Louise Parker?


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:54 AM
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This is a song for three.


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 8:54 AM
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I seem to have assimilated "Mary Louise Parker" to Julia Louis-Dreyfus.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:00 AM
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I always confuse the names of Mary Louise Parker and Mary Stuart Masterson.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:04 AM
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Rose Byrne is very Mary-Louise Parker in that photo

Hmm, I suppose she is. Also in that type: Mia Sara.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:06 AM
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Googling!


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:09 AM
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Yes, Sloane Peterson was definitely crush worthy. Also notable? She has a kid with the son of Sean Connery, and another kid with the son of Jim Henson. She gave birth to a buddy comedy as envisioned by Terry Gilliam.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:12 AM
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I used to play in a two-piece band called The Make-Out Twins. We weren't actually twins, and we never made out. What I'm saying is, we probably would have been a great disappointment do donaq, so it's for the best that we broke up.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:13 AM
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Ms Parker has a lovely smile.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:14 AM
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If you have Jim Henson's child, does it come out half made of felt?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:18 AM
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And what do you have to do to make it talk?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:19 AM
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Hmm, so is Rose Byrne related in any way to John Byrne?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 9:31 AM
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If you mean John Byrne the comics guy, probably distantly at most, as they were born in different countries.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 10:11 AM
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12, 26: Today's xkcd seems a propos.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 10:18 AM
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58 - Emmy Noether is the radness, but she had tons of men (including David Hilbert, the most important mathematician in Germany, and her father, whose classes she was teaching for a while there) going to bat for her; her struggles more a statement on the hidebound nature of the German university at her time. Where's the love for Rosalind Franklin? (I'm sure I'm just saying this because I love Noether and hate XKCD.)


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 10:58 AM
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48: I always confuse the names of Mary Louise Parker and Mary Stuart Masterson.

I have the same problem with Bloody Mary and Mary, Queen of Scots.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 10:59 AM
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Goddammit does the patriarchy suck balls.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:02 AM
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Goddammit does the patriarchy suck balls.

The Oppressor Defeating Himself, [School of] Peter Paul Rubens, oil on canvas, 1612-14. Gift of the Unfogged Foundation.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:06 AM
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62 is great.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:09 AM
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Emmy Noether is the radness

How much would it cost to have a bunch of billboards all over the place say this?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:13 AM
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I have the same problem with Bloody Mary and Mary, Queen of Scots.

When I was a kid some people I knew attempted to introduce a drink called Mary Queen of Scots, which was whisky and tomato juice. The attempt lasted less than 24 hours, for reasons which will be apparent.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:14 AM
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59: I'm actually pretty proud of the math community vis-a-vis Noether (ICM lecture in 1932!). But the discrimination against her by non-mathematicians at universities was not just a German thing. When she left Germany the only positions she was offered were at women's colleges.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:20 AM
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63: I find the craquelure suspect. "School of" my ass, Berenson!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:20 AM
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I always confuse the names of Mary Louise Parker and Mary Stuart Masterson.

What about Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:25 AM
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I always liked this Meegeren anecdote:


Göring was apocryphally told that his painting was a forgery while awaiting execution, with a contemporary remarking that he "looked as if for the first time he had discovered there was evil in the world".


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:28 AM
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For that matter, Mary Elizabeth Winstead (from North Carolina and shares my birthday!).


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:30 AM
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No, her I get confused with Mary Elizabeth "The Waitress" Ellis.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:32 AM
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60: I have the same problem with Mary, Queen of Scots, and Mary Scott, of Queens.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:38 AM
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What about Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio?

Confused with Marcello Mastroianni.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:40 AM
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What about Rembrandt's wife, Saskia?

http://www.codart.nl/exhibitions/details/911/


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:41 AM
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I confuse Mantonio from Achewood and Antonio Tony from Dino Comix, too.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:41 AM
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74: She looks a little sketchy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 11:42 AM
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Emmy Noether Marie Curie is the radness


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:08 PM
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77: that comment was more correct before your edit. However, "Marie Curie absorbed the radness" would have been grand.


Posted by: Annelid Gustator | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:10 PM
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And then there's Maude.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:27 PM
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to 78.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:27 PM
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60: Wow, apparently they're different people.

I have the same problem with Mary Wollstonecraft and Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin/Shelley


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:32 PM
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Maude Flanders? Totes dead, yo.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:32 PM
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I've got a fever for the flavor of a Pringle! But I often get them confused with Funyuns. Hey, is there any snack food that's more fun to say than Funyuns? I guess maybe Doodads!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:39 PM
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You know if you turn the box upside down, it says spap oop! That's even MORE fun to say! But close the box first, or you'll make a big mess!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 12:43 PM
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Hey! Know where Tina Fey went to college? UVa. Take that, UVa bashers.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 1:21 PM
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I don't know who's responsible for Pauly, but I'd like to offer them a hug.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 1:58 PM
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And Apo is batting 1000 with the crush worthy mentions.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:00 PM
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Unrelated: can someone who knows the artist formerly known as Di IRL to come back, please?


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:02 PM
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It's totally me, doña. I'm responsible for Pauly. Give me your hugs.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:03 PM
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nosflow sits on a throne of lies.


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:07 PM
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OT: I heard a snippet of a stupid sounding report that discovered evil anti-American groups have blogs where people gain prestige by posting comments. Some obviously intelligent group issued a report on their new discovery. Very dangerous stuff


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:09 PM
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It's not nice to sockpuppet, you know.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:09 PM
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91: You mean they found out about us? Oh, no!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:12 PM
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Lying, on the other hand, is looked on with favor.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:13 PM
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All is fair in the pursuit of hugs.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:14 PM
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That is, when I do it.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:14 PM
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(((nosflow)))

ooo,
apo


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:15 PM
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Peep that is exactly what I thought. "holy smokes! Unfogged is a terrorist org"


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:16 PM
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98: They're after our weapons of crass punstruction.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:29 PM
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Ogged's in Waziristan.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:35 PM
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100: He's writing for Abbottablog.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:37 PM
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99: We should surrender those weapons immediately! If that leaves us without any way to deploy puns, well, sometimes you have to sacrifice for peace and security.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:41 PM
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It is a little suspicious how he went underground when antiterrorism heated up.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:42 PM
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EEEYACK. It's worth watching the video to get the full effect.

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:43 PM
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104: That is so awesome. "Look, it's rocking its head!"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:50 PM
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104: It was freshly killed, so it's not all maggoty and stuff. There's nothing on that squirrel she couldn't get from the dog that killed it. Plus he made her take a bath afterward. I'm on the side of the dad here. The blogger is being silly.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 2:54 PM
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My mother likes to tell the story of ~6-year-old me emerging at high-speed from the woods teetering on the edge of a seizure with excitement over the treasure I was carrying. "Mommommommom, I found a dinosaur skeleton! And it still has fur on this side!"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-10-11 3:01 PM
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My brother was so excited the time he found an anchor in the woods below where our neighbor parks his boat, because it proved that where we lived had indeed been an ocean once, as he'd been told! He's also the one who was banned from bringing skeletons into the house until they'd bleached significantly.

And now he works for American Apparel, so take that as a warning, parents!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-11-11 7:57 AM
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