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I have similar thoughts.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 6:55 AM
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Re swarthiness, basically, I can't imagine wanting my skin to be any oilier, and I'm worried that will be the result. My hope is that oil production is my skin's response to being soaped, and that it will reach a better equilibrium within a few soapless weeks. If that doesn't happen, this will be a failure.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:05 AM
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Although my skin isn't actually even remotely swarthy. But it doesn't get dry or rashy or otherwise experience problems from soap, that I know of.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:07 AM
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The packing benefit seems trivial.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:08 AM
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I do feel a little oily today, but that might be psychological, together with the fact that our AC is off at the moment.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:08 AM
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Animals are kind of dirty and gross, if left to their own devices

This was basically my first comment on this topic in yesterday's thread. That's why I'm skeptical. But, I do think I may be having trouble disentangling not bathing from not using soap, and attributing the grossness of the former to the latter. Maybe water is all you need. That's part of the reason I'm experimenting.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:10 AM
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The packing benefit seems as trivial as the cost-savings benefit. Trivial.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:11 AM
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The fear of heights thing didn't hit me until after I had a child either.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:12 AM
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So are you in it to try to cut down on your skin's oiliness?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:12 AM
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I used soap this morning because I was getting a physical this morning and because I have no intention of not using soap regardless of what the internet people say.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:13 AM
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You think the height thing is about Hawaiian Punch? I never had a problem with heights, but taking Sally as a preschooler to Yankee Stadium, which is really steeply raked in the upper deck, terrified me. And even though it was about being afraid of her getting loose and falling somehow, it felt like me, personally, being afraid of the dropoff.

And you had that scary falling off a roadside into a ditch thing with her last year.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:14 AM
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I'm also very curious to know what will happen to my genitals. This post makes it sounds magical.

Private parts. Have to address this, of course. This is the biggest benefit of all. Surprised? You'll just have to try it, because I'm not going to elaborate.... I can't explain further. You'll just have to try.

Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:17 AM
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Stop using soap and your balls turn into gold.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:18 AM
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I was completely fearless about heights through my early teens, and then I got scared and have been ever since. My parents say that they got rather freaked out when seven year old me decided that free climbing some of the cliffs in Acadia would be a good idea.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:23 AM
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I was completely fearless about heights until I got cast in the Spiderman musical.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:24 AM
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Pre-kids, I had a really intense height fear when we were at the Grand Canyon a few years ago. But seriously: it would be really easy to die at the Grand Canyon. Especially the areas to explore near the Skywalk on the southwest side: Go walk up to the edge of this sheer, Wiley Coyote style cliff face! Have fun with your no guard rails whatsoever.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:27 AM
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12: After two weeks, your junk smells like the bottom of the pool.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:28 AM
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My fear of heights disappears if there's a guard rail or if I'm roped up and being properly belayed.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:33 AM
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Some guy fell to his death down an outdoor stairway that I use every now and then. I wish they'd have come out with a news story that gave some kind of detail about how he fell so that I could create a delusion about how it couldn't happen to me. Instead, all they said was that foul play wasn't involved.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:34 AM
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Stop using soap and your balls turn into gold.

Which you can monetise by forming an investment trust... Anyone else read Kai Lung?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:36 AM
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You know, urple, you could just not soap up your balls. Come to think of it, you should leave parts of you as controls.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:40 AM
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I feel serious today.


Posted by: Paul Shore | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:54 AM
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You think the height thing is about Hawaiian Punch?

Possibly? I'm not sure. I certainly have intense reactions about the HPs and ledges, but I don't know which came first.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:00 AM
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Excepting very new construction, the ledge came before HP.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:03 AM
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21 isn't a terrible idea. I wonder how using soap only on the right half of my body would work.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:06 AM
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You want to use masking tape to be sure you get a clear separation.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:11 AM
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It would be safer to shower twice, each time standing half-in, half-out of the tub. For science.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:13 AM
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I'm roped up and being properly belayed.

That's what she... ah, never mind. It's not worth it.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:27 AM
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I'm also very curious to know what will happen to my genitals.

This should be used in every conversation at least once.

Since I cut my hair short, I'm supposed to wash it a lot less. I did today for the first time since Sunday because I don't like the pomade buildup, which, as the hair gets increasingly fluffy at the end of the day, makes me look like the guy in Eraserhead. I'm not used to having stickiness.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:36 AM
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Oh man, I've had some crazy Eraserhead hair over the past six months. It turns out that even when my hair is four inches long, it can stand straight up as a unified wall, with no product.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:41 AM
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I'm not used to having stickiness.

After a couple of weeks of not soaping your genitals, you'll get accustomed to it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:41 AM
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The opposite problem was part of why a pixie cut was so bad on me. While my hair is thick, it's so fine that it doesn't matter how short it gets, it just lays down flat. (Come to think, that was true when I was a teenager. My hair's coarser now. I wonder if I could pull off a really short cut now. Probably not, and Buck would hate it if I tried.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:43 AM
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Having short hair was weird for me. I really liked it up in Austin, but I was kind of self-conscious in conservative areas. Which meant that I felt like I wasn't catering to my internal sense of style, which bothered me.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:49 AM
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I'm so scared of heights that an unbroken horizon, a plain or a beach, makes me tremble because it is an edge.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:51 AM
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28: As usual, essear writes what I slowly start to think.
Re fear of heights, never had any trouble with roped rock climbing on some fairly big walls, but get queasy on bridges, sometimes even while in a car. Getting belayed across a bridge - usually not an option.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:51 AM
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Since I cut my hair short, I'm supposed to wash it a lot less.

Really? I hadn't heard that and was generally under the impression that short hair got washed more often because it was just plain easier.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:55 AM
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34: I take an unbroken horizon as a comforting view, perhaps because it was a very common view when I was growing up.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:55 AM
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34: Do you also worry about the singularities at the North and South Poles?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:59 AM
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38:There are singularities at the Poles? Is that what is melting the icecaps? Will no one care for Penguins? Can Kate Beckinsale and 7 brave huskies save us?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:13 AM
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What I find interesting/annoying about my fear of heights is when it is illogical. Sure, it makes a certain amount of sense to be scared if you're edging along a wall or going up an icy ridge unbelayed, but why am I so much more likely to be scared walking along a narrow but good quality heavily exposed path than biking on the side of a heavily trafficked road? And even in the 'rational' fear of heights situations I feel like my anxiety is out of proportion to the actual danger and can detract from an otherwise incredibly enjoyable activity.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:24 AM
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There are singularities at the Poles?

We're all black holes.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:24 AM
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40: I think this gets veldty -- scary things that were present in the pre-human evolutionary environment are just scary in a different way than modern things. Why do snakes scare people who've never been near a poisonous one?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:27 AM
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Why do snakes scare people who've never been near a poisonous one?

Because snakes are evil and should be killed on sight.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:28 AM
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why am I so much more likely to be scared walking along a narrow but good quality heavily exposed path than biking on the side of a heavily trafficked road?

Cars are my other phobia!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:32 AM
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My son keeps saying things like, "I know all about cars" or "I can run faster than a car." He does this in parking lots when I tell him to stay by me. It's getting better, but I wanted to get a leash for so long.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:34 AM
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There are singularities at the Poles?

There are Poles at singularities. This is because there is literally no barrier that cannot be crossed, no obstacle that cannot be beaten, no journey that cannot be made, by someone who is sufficiently drunk. Orbiting gently around Cygnus X-1 is a quietly sleeping bloke called Karol who will, soon, awake in some pain and wonder how the hell he got there when the last thing he can remember was trying to find a taxi in central Lodz at about 2.30 the previous morning.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:43 AM
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There are singularities at the Poles?
Yes: coordinate singularities.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:48 AM
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I generally use olive oil soap or something similarly simple in the shower. When I end up showering at my parents' house for some reason and use Dial (the house brand ever since I was a wee lad), I definitely notice that I suddenly have body odor again.

Dial is a deodorant soap, so maybe whatever disinfectant it contains wipes out all the bacteria on the fascinating ecosystem that is my skin, including the non-smelly ones that keep the smelly ones in check?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 10:44 AM
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Because snakes are evil and should be killed on sight.

Moby!

Had a meltdown on some heights while traveling, and then climbed some rocks right after fairly calmly. I decided the difference between terror and calm was whether I could hold onto anything with my hands. I wasn't actually safer climbing than I was on the exposed heights, but touching the rock face with my hands kept me from feeling afraid.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 11:09 AM
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I hadn't heard that and was generally under the impression that short hair got washed more often because it was just plain easier.

Actually my experience is that I have to wash my hair more often the shorter it gets, because it gets greasy more quickly. I think it actually gets greasy at the same rate, but when its long the grease isn't apparent for a day or two because it takes time to work out.

From which I conclude that my hair behaves quite differently from AWB's and LB's, and that it takes all sorts and so on.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 11:11 AM
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48: It's also possible that the smell of a different soap makes you notice your odor more.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 11:11 AM
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FEAR [of heights] CAUSES HESITATION, AND HESITATION WILL CAUSE YOUR WORST FEARS TO COME TRUE.


Posted by: OPINIONATED PATRICK SWAYZE CHARACTER FROM "POINT BREAK" | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 11:28 AM
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51: No, that's not it. Dial itself smells medicinal, like disinfectant. And the olive oil soap I use is unscented. And the body odor that arises smells like I smelled when I was a sweaty teenager.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 11:28 AM
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53: Alternate theory! It has nothing to do with soap. Being around your parents causes you to relive your teen years, making you sweat like you did as a teen.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 11:35 AM
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I generally use olive oil soap or something similarly simple in the shower.

I've been using this recently (until yesterday). Can't tell any difference: swarthy skin, cavewoman's sense of tactile aesthetics, etc.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 12:06 PM
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I cannot be the only one who loves Point Break. Don't let me down, people.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 12:15 PM
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You got what you wanted, Bodie, now let Skyler go!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 1:43 PM
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Gary Busey's last great role.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 1:43 PM
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Keanu Reeves, young, dumb and full of come? What's not to love? I wanted to make my kids watch it but it's an 18!


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 2:17 PM
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We made the kids watch Highlander. They thought it was silly and not very good. We told them that was the point.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 2:21 PM
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My son keeps saying things like, "I know all about cars" or "I can run faster than a car." He does this in parking lots when I tell him to stay by me.

Heh, I had the following exchange with a guy on a ride along a few weeks back. We're arriving on a call where an anonymous person called in saying a couple gang members hanging out in the parking lot of an apartment complex were drinking and one of them had flashed a gun. We're parking around the corner and I'm going to approach on foot.

Me: "Wait here and if for some reason this goes to hell and you start hearing shots your best bet is to stay behind the engine block."

Aspiring cop: "Don't worry, I've had a lot of martial arts training".


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 2:36 PM
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Was he wearing sunglasses and an ankle-length black coat?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 2:37 PM
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50: I think the idea is that slightly greasy short hair keeps it tame, but long hair can smell bad rather quickly. That said, I have a friend with short hair who never, ever washes his hair and it just stinks to high hell. People have tried to intervene.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 3:18 PM
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That said, I have a friend with short hair who never, ever washes his hair and it just stinks to high hell.

Back to the OP: does "never, ever washes his hair" mean "never showers it off with water" or "never uses shampoo"? Because the latter would be a bad sign for this experiment.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 3:22 PM
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I feel like "swarthy" means something different to Heebie than it does to me.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 3:24 PM
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50: I think the idea is that slightly greasy short hair keeps it tame, but long hair can smell bad rather quickly.

The flip side of this notion is that long hair has more space to distribute the oils over, and more risk of getting all dried out at the ends from over-washing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 3:26 PM
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Huh; I don't associate fear of heights with anxiety, exactly, but with something like vertigo. I developed this, inexplicably, sometime in my late 20s, though I'd never had a problem before, and I was miffed, I tell you.

Wikipedia tells me that acrophobia is not to be confused with vertigo, and it sounds as though the latter is what I have (when close to the edge of a cliff or building's roof, not particularly on floor 29 of a skyscraper, or even on a theater balcony). The experience is visceral: I feel like I'm about to fall, and if I get too close, that I'm actually losing my balance. All it takes is to step back a foot or two, and the sensation disappears.

I had the impression that vertigo, so described (distinct from the kind of fear of heights people can have just when climbing a ladder, which I seem to link just to nervousness), can develop in adulthood, just as allergies can, but I don't know where I got that idea.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 4:18 PM
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65 I feel like "swarthy" means something different to Heebie than it does to me. all other speakers of the English language.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 4:31 PM
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Heebie's a swarthy crooner.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 4:32 PM
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Heebie is the daughter of Greek immigrants. Her parents were little people -- little, swarthy people. So she understands the American Dream.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 4:44 PM
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Was he wearing sunglasses and an ankle-length black coat?

No, but I suppose it's possible I'm severely underestimating the training from his current gig at the Jiffy Lube.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 5:01 PM
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Heebie might mean that she has olive skin.

I think I'd not want to stop using what I use for face-washing (Noxzema and a washcloth/facecloth) because I want the exfoliating benefits. Not washing my face with anything but water is pretty much a non-starter: I'd get zits, I'd get dry skin patches, I'd constantly be rubbing my face.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 5:19 PM
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64: We're not close enough for me to ask. I just knew there was a profound odor, and not just a pleasant body-type smell, when he was around, and a mutual friend informed me that there is a refusal to wash the hair. I am not sure if this means he doesn't wet it.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 5:47 PM
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Archive link on fear of heights in skyscrapers.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 7:49 PM
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I thought swarthy meant skin that is thick and hearty and rugged, and probably olive or darker. Peasant skin or something.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:49 PM
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As far as I know, "swarthy" only covers the darkness feature.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:51 PM
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What if most of my vocabulary is off by 10% but it's only exposed one word every few weeks, starting in my 30s? There could be all sorts of miscommunication going on.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 8:54 PM
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I understand "swarthy" in Heebie's sense - indeed I think it's the only way it can be used these days without irony.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:09 PM
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I understand "swarthy" in Heebie's sense - indeed I think it's the only way it can be used these days without irony.

And yet there is something not-right about claiming that your skin doesn't react to things because it is especially swarthy.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:18 PM
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Possible, I know nothing about skin.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:28 PM
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My face is like the chapped hide of an elephant, only not that swarthy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:29 PM
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My face is tough and stringy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:29 PM
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My face is durable.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:30 PM
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The price on my face skyrocketed after corn began to be harvested for ethanol, thus causing my face shortages in cash-strapped countries all over the globe.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:32 PM
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My face does feel a tad oily. But I half think that's just power of suggestion.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:34 PM
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I've always understood the term the way redfoxtailshrub describes it. And not the way Ben Franklin used it.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:37 PM
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My face is going to bed.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:39 PM
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Watch my face plant.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:39 PM
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76 gets it right.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-18-11 9:41 PM
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Day 2 of this experiment seems to be markedly worse than day 1, in terms of overall greasiness and general funk. I also think there's a fatal flaw in my experimental design, namely that I'm not sure there's anyone I trust to tell me honestly if I stink like a pig, other than my spouse and possibly kids, who by virtue of living with me may become desensitized to my odor. Unless I can come up with some solution to this design flaw, I think I'm going to have to abort the experiment.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 6:20 AM
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Swab your pits, hair, feet, and crotch. Mail the swabs to a selected sample of the commetariate. And I call "not me."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 6:24 AM
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I thought swarthy meant skin that is thick and hearty and rugged, and probably olive or darker.

Charles II, when on the run from Cromwell's troops, was described in his wanted poster as "a swarthy man two yards high".
Mind you in those days "black" and "swarthy" often meant nothing more than "black-haired"; see the very splendid and dauntless Black Agnes of Dunbar, about whom more people should know, but who (like Charles II) was certainly not even a bit tan, what with being Scottish.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 6:44 AM
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I was actually hoping for advice on 90. (Better advice than 91, I mean.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:03 AM
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I get that more and more.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:04 AM
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Seek professional help, urple.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:05 AM
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Access Denied! Pornography/Adult Content!


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:07 AM
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Huh. That's weird. Here.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:09 AM
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97: Rule 34.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:11 AM
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Day 2 of this experiment seems to be markedly worse than day 1, in terms of overall greasiness and general funk.

My Day 2 is not too bad. My hair feels maybe a little...gummy. My skin feels normal.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:12 AM
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97: I can see why that was tagged as adult content... look at the smile on that second lady. She's enjoying that a little too much.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:14 AM
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General Funk


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:14 AM
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I'm frankly stunned that 101 isn't a musician.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:15 AM
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Or, not the guy in that link, but some other guy with that name, if you see what I mean.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:16 AM
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It makes me tremendously happy to think that, at some point in his early career, this man was addressed by everyone as "Captain Kirk" and no one thought it was funny at all.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:18 AM
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102: Youtube tells me there's an Italian band called General Funk.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:27 AM
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I almost never use shampoo, but I vigorously scrub my scalp with my fingers, and then use conditioner. If I don't use conditioner my hair feels maybe a little...gummy.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:30 AM
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One of these guys, if he sticks with it, will become Sergeant Pepper. He looks like he's dreading it already.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:30 AM
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I used to dream of growing up to be a general and controlling all the cereal depots.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:31 AM
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107: I can already see the ceremony where they glue the handlebar moustache on him.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:32 AM
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If someone had asked me how likely I thought it was that there was an African-American musician active in the late 1970s who went by the stage name of "General Funk", I'd have said better than 95%. I'd have guessed it more likely than not that I'd heard his music.

It seems like an obvious hole in the musical canon.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:33 AM
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I'm a little surprised as well. There was a funk band called General Caine, and General Johnson led The Chairmen of the Board.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-19-11 9:37 AM
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