But how was the Bare Naked Ladies concert?
Hey, are we playing the stupid question game?
1: The conversation about about The Drinking of The Beer and The Forthcoming Child.
I still don't get it. I get that we're not playing the stupid question game. I don't get the conversation, though.
Like, if the two members of the couple have different ideas on her drinking while pregnant? I think usually the pregnant person just calls the shots. (Zing!)
Or if the non-pregnant person wants ice cream? They should have it.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
And what does the post title have to do with anything, Stonester?
Besides making me think "Keep Their Heads Ringing".
12: Just that couples must have the drinking conversation at some point, ("I won't have a beer at tonight's Barenaked Ladies' concert, because you're due to burst" and "I won't have a beer anymore, since I"m due to burst"), and I was wondering when that happened. How many months in.
15: It's a lyric of a song.
I always stang drank alone late at night when my wife was pregnant. Or at work.
17.1: "so, I'm like four months pregnant. Even though I probably could get a beer, societal pressure is making me feel kind of bad about even thinking about it, and I wouldn't enjoy it." "Cool, yeah. Should I get you an ice cream when I get my beer?"
Speaking of heebie, this card made me think of both heebie and not-heebie. (Actually one of the kids sent to my wife and it fits pretty well, only Dad doesn't really pick up the NA.)
21 is glib, of course; I know couples where the dude gave up booze entirely and then kinda lorded it over the woman, who did not give up booze entirely, because there isn't any reason to.
12: Just that couples must have the drinking conversation at some point, ("I won't have a beer at tonight's Barenake Ladies' concert, because you're due to burst" and "I won't have a beer anymore, since I"m due to burst"), and I was wondering when that happened. How many months in.
I think you may have a mistaken notion of the relationship between not-drinking and how far along a pregnancy is. For the pregnant party, it's more important not to drink when you're earlier in the pregnancy, and why wouldn't the not-pregnant party forsake a beer just because the pregnant party was extra pregnant?
("I won't have a beer at tonight's Barenake Ladies' concert, because you're due to burst" and "I won't have a beer anymore, since I"m due to burst")
I think it's okay for either to have a beer if they want one. If you were worried that labor was super-imminent, you might ask your partner not to get totally shitty.
Oh, the part where people can tell you're pregnant, so you can't have your tiny drink in public.
I vastly prefer ice cream to beer even in my unpregnant state, so take that, patriarchy!
Stanley is cleary terrible at being judgmental.
26: What if you're just a naturally shitty partner?
30: Or he has bad judgement. Exhibit A: Bare Naked Ladies.
29: Because beer tastes awful and ice cream needn't.
Your link reminds me, though, of my grandmother's story about travel in Ireland in maybe the early '60s. She asked for a Baileys or something on the train and it was brought to her in a teacup so her drinking wouldn't look unseemly. She said she never looked at old nuns chatting over their cups of tea the same way again.
Even the shittiest pregnant women go into labor eventually.
I think Tom petty discarded that line.
Because beer tastes awful and ice cream needn't.
Amen.
Hard liquor and ice scream can taste quite nice, e.g. the 'Colonel', i.e. lemon sorbet and vodka, or Grand Marnier and vanilla ice cream.
I hope Moby really thinks I saw Barenaked Ladies tonight. God, they suck.
I've had Guinness ice cream and it's very good.
I would much rather have Guiness ice cream than go to a Bare Naked Ladies concert.
38: I had to google the lyrics. That would have been a good show.
Related to beer: Why do I feel more buzzed after three sixteen ounce cans that four twelve ounce cans?
I made Guinness ice cream - it was fantastic and surprising in flavor.
43: Are you drinking the tallboys faster? I've noticed I tend to finish them about as quickly as I do regular sized beers, and so get drunk quicker.
I had a beer float last Sunday, mmmm vanilla porter and ice cream.
Is Stanley's theory that the dude has to be 100% sober at all times late in a pregnancy because the baby could drop out at any time? If so, um what?
47: No, that is not Stanley's theory. Stanley doesn't have a theory but was wondering how this conversation plays out for different couples and thought we might talk about it. Or debate the merits of beer vs. ice cream.
You have to have a theory to get tenure.
What conversation? What the fuck is wrong with you?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
I'm not expressing myself very clearly, apparently.
I have no kids but I have observed many couples going through a woman's pregnancy. In all cases the woman stopped drinking when she realised she was pregnant, except on "Oh shit, you can't expect me not to have a drink after THAT!" occasions, and the man kept drinking when it was normal to do so. Where's the big deal? I also know people who've stopped drinking because they were on drugs where it was contraindicated, or their liver was shot, or when they were in hospital, or in a few cases because they were in AA. Their partners kept right on knocking it back. I think you're making too much of this.
52: But, it might be different if their partner was directly responsible for putting them in the hospital.
I trust the hobo consultants didn't charge you a lot for this one, Stannous.
It's not a lack of clarity so much as an entirely flawed premise. Having a conversation about whether the non-pregnant partner will continue to drink and for how long is not in any way de rigueur or even particularly common.
56: I guess not. I recall it coming up explicitly when my cousin was pregnant recently. As in, it was something they had talked about. But I'm willing to believe, given the reaction here, that's it not, like, A Thing.
It tends to be different with first babies I think - missus is all "oh I'm not going to drink anything! not a drop!" and hubby is all "I will give up booze too darling! In solidarity with you!". For about three months, then there's a party or something and she has a sip of champagne, and he downs two or three glasses, and then by a process of gradual backsliding, he's back to his normal consumption by the third trimester.
Second and subsequent babies, she's more likely to go "the occasional glass won't hurt" and he's less and less likely to bother with the initial show.
Actually, for us it was the post-pregnancy return to normal that required more of a conversation. In the "dude, you don't get to just assume I'm going to be the designated driver anymore" sense.
Where's the big deal? I also know people who've stopped drinking because they were on drugs where it was contraindicated, or their liver was shot, or when they were in hospital, or in a few cases because they were in AA. Their partners kept right on knocking it back. I think you're making too much of this.
The added factor with pregnancy is its visibility to strangers, some of whom feel entitled or even hono(u)rbound to comment on or otherwise make known their disapproval of a pregnant woman having the audicity to drink in her delicate condition.
59: "So does that mean you're going to start helping clean the litterbox again?"
It's not safe to clean the litterbox until the fetus is in the 20th trimester.
62: My wife certainly seems to believe that's true.
To be truly safe, you shouldn't clean the litterbox if you're physically capable of ever becoming pregnant. I'm pretty sure that's what the surgeon general says.
63: It's all part of the plot to destroy the white man.
64: I just hope medical science doesn't advance to the point where men can get pregnant. Then who will clean the litterbox???
If men could get pregnant, they could certainly fight off a rinky-dink toxoplasmosis. Have I mentioned lately how big and strong you all are?
By the time medical science has advanced to that point, cats will be able to clean their own damn litter boxes.
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I feel like I'm muscling in on heebie's territory with this, but it's surprisingly on topic.
That is the best thing I've seen all week.
69 I was shocked to here the guy was still alive until a couple days ago.
FWIW Stanley, I understood the question immediately upon reading the post. Never had such a conversation, mind you. But understood what you were asking.
58: If two or three glasses is just the beginning of the backsliding process towards his normal consumption level, then the conversation in 26 about not getting totally shitty post viability might be worth having.
There really needs to be more adulation of the song in 70. It is so great.
73: Oh, good! I'm not losing my mind.
Did you click through to the original video?
61: Uh, yeah, what Heebie said in 62. Definitely that.
Topically, I went to the bar and the bartender in very pregnant.
76: Yeah, I'm not sure that necessarily follows.
"I got pregnaaaaaaaaant! Can I get you a drink?"
She's a very nice Polish woman. Be nice.
Also, a Rusty Nail basically tastes like scotch on the rocks.
77: Yeah, I did. It was pretty great, too. Somehow the mash-up wins for me, though.
I just watched the video from 70, and it's funny! But now I'm confused about which original video apo's referring to in 77.
At the end of the video, there's a little pop-up in the video (built in, not suggested by youtube) linking to a previous video.
Thank you. Now I can go to sleep secure in the knowledge that what I thought was a straight line was actually a setup.