Re: Lobbyists

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I REALLY DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU DUMB BASTARDS THINK ABOUT ASSESSING LOBBYISTS AND ADVOCACY GROUPS, I DID THE RESEARCH!!!


Posted by: OPINIONATED STEVE TELES | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 8:45 AM
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My political giving tends to be directly to candidates, but I have given to Demand Progress and intend to again. Their focus is civil liberties but they do other things (like the campaign to hold Gold Man-Sacks accountable).


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:02 AM
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YOU DID THE RESEARCH??? DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THAT, TELES YOU BASTARD?


Posted by: OPINIONATED MARK SCHMITT | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:12 AM
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I give money to and have done some nominal fundraising and outreach for Liberty Hill, a non-profit whose motto is "Change, not Charity" and who funds activist groups in and around Los Angeles. Also ACLU membership.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:29 AM
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I picked Doctors without Borders and The Nature Conservancy specifically because they do something more direct than lobbying. Hey, now maybe The Nature Conservancy can buy all those national parks for cheap. Grnkh.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:34 AM
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Smearcase is bourgeois.

Liberty Hill is great! In a few months, I will use my POWER OF TRUSTEE to give them some cash.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:44 AM
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Liberty Hill is great!

We all find our thrills in different places, I guess.


Posted by: Antoine Dominique Domino Jr. | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:49 AM
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A lot of developmental charities, like Oxfam, both provide direct aid and engage in lobbying and make them a single coordinated effort. I think this is a very good strategy, and I work my charitable giving the same way.

Also, I put the ACLU under the heading "information infrastructure" along with wikipedia, npr, wikileaks, pro publica, and my local library.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:51 AM
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We all find our thrills in different places, I guess.
This.


Posted by: Chuck Berry | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:54 AM
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Not to mention Blueberry Hill.


Posted by: Fats Domino. | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 9:59 AM
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I'm not very good about donating money, but if I gave it to a lobbying group, it would be one of the water or enviro group doing far-left provocative stuff, like Center for Biological Diversity or CWIN. I like how unabashed they are about their agenda and that they give cover to the more middle ground groups.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:18 AM
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10: Do you know who I am???


Posted by: Antoine Dominique Domino Jr. | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:22 AM
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12: Yes a perfect example of the know-it-all pedantic fuckwadism I've come to expect on this blog. Or maybe I miss your point.


Posted by: Fats Domino. | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:26 AM
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What about us?


Posted by: Vincent Rose and John L. Rooney | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:31 AM
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Smearcase is bourgeois.

Was it the opera obsession that tipped you off?


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:33 AM
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10: Thanks for making that explicit.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:35 AM
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16: I assumed 9 was referring to this.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 10:42 AM
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13: I think Mr. Domino's point is that you were pwnd, both in terms of content and style.

I would add that there are plenty of other blogs to find your thrill on, if the house style here doesn't suit you.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:07 AM
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18 is all truth, but it's also true that some get their meager thrills by complaining, and that is also a legitimate component of the house style.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:13 AM
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17: I was referring to this, and I'll thank you to not bring that up again.


Posted by: Chuck Berry | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:19 AM
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19 is all truth, but it's also true that some get their meager thrills by berating those who complain, and that is also a legitimate component of the house style.



Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:21 AM
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21: If weren't being paid $5 a comment it would seem like a waste of time to take this any further.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:26 AM
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20: That Johnny-come-lately place? You can look crawl up my big fat ass, Chuck.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:32 AM
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I had no idea Chuck Berry was still alive. Seems like he shouldn't be.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 11:48 AM
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24: Racist.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:00 PM
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25: Corporealist.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:03 PM
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24: Death Panelist.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:29 PM
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Chuck Berry is still alive because he's run like Chipotle.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:32 PM
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Little Richard is run like Chipotle. Chuck Berry is more in the Taco Hut model.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:37 PM
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one of the water or enviro group doing far-left provocative stuff,

This thread reminds me that I recently read "http://www.ericpooley.com/">The Climate War (from the library), and have been meaning to recommend it around here.

The book is very kind to the EDF but it does make clear the value of having an organization which has, literally, been pushing Carbon Cap and Trade for the last 25 years, and can not only provide advocacy but also help get talented people working on the issue in a position to influence legislation.

If anybody's interested in a longer review let me know. I thought it was, ultimately, a much more interesting book than I expected (though far from perfect).


Posted by:
NickS | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:43 PM
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Embarrassing, I messed up the link, but I think you can figure it out.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:44 PM
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Private industry never messes up links.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:49 PM
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They do mess up lynx though, of course.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:49 PM
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32: And they're efficient when they don't.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:51 PM
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The messed-up link is displaying interesting behavior. The text turns red mousing over the start of the link to the end of that line, and then again over the "Posted by:" text.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:52 PM
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Billboard (for ice coffee) just seen here in the Garden State: Here's to pumping our fists, not our gas.
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Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:55 PM
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35: No it doesn't. You're obviously high.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:55 PM
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Game 1, 1997 NBA Finals, with apologies to Wikipedia -

"With the game tied, and only seconds remaining, Karl ["Chipotle"] Malone was fouled and had a chance to give the Jazz the lead. Scottie Pippen famously psyched him out by telling him "Just remember, the [Chipotle] doesn't deliver on Sundays, Karl," while Malone was at the free throw line. He missed both free throws and the Bulls rebounded and quickly called a time-out. With the game on the line, Chicago put the ball into the hands of Michael Jordan. M.J. dribbled out most of the waning seconds and then launched a 20 footer that swished in at the buzzer, as the Chicago Bulls took the first game of the 1997 NBA Finals."


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 12:57 PM
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Speaking of Taco Hut, Austin is home to a small local chain name of Taco Shack. It has an awesome motto: "Home of the Shack Taco".

Now everytime I see a Radio Shack, I think "Home of the Shack Radio", and wonder at the thought process behind using the word "Shack" in the name of an electronics store.

And in that same vein, I can see why you'd name a business "Sunglasses Hut", what with the beach connotations, but Pizza Hut? Perhaps when it was founded all foreign foods were considered to emanate from huts?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:06 PM
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It's just a spelling error. They mean "Home of the Shaq Taco".


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:08 PM
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Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:10 PM
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Home of the Hut Pizza. One, two, three HUT! PIZZA!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:10 PM
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"Home of the Pagoda Piercing" has a nice ring to it.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:12 PM
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Hut rhymes with the Czech word for hunger, hlad.

PH was laying the seeds for a rhyming slogan (Mate hlad? Pizza Hut!) that worked well in the 90s, when there was still a country full of people grateful for a soggy frisbee covered with sweetened ketchup and SynCheese or whatever that stuff is.

The next noun to watch for is shanty. My plans for Kabobi shanty are a failsafe road to personal riches.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:13 PM
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I have seen the original Pizza Hut, although it had been moved to Witchita State University, and it is in fact a small hut.
I kind of wish yurts had been more in fashion then.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:15 PM
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According to Wikipedia, Pizza Hut was originally so named because the original sign the original owners purchased had room for only nine characters, including spaces. Quite a sentimental tale.

Also, Pizza Hut originated in well known Italian-American culutral hub Wichita, KS.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:17 PM
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"Pizza Tit" would also have fit, but was sadly rejected.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:23 PM
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"Pizza Ish" would have worked.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:27 PM
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"Domino's" would have fit.


Posted by: Fats | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:29 PM
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I thought "Pizza Hut" was so called because its food resembles what pizza would be if it was developed by Germans, and because its trademark rooves look like hats.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:35 PM
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its trademark rooves look like hats.

You're a Devo fan, I see.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:37 PM
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wonder at the thought process behind using the word "Shack" in the name of an electronics store.

It's a nautical reference.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:43 PM
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But really they should have stuck with Tandy Radio Shack & Leather.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 1:47 PM
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Submit that application to the Postal Service, or the Illinois sociology department, stat.



Posted by: The Mailman | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 2:00 PM
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54: Sexist.


Posted by: The Letter Carrier | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 2:05 PM
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Ah, so "Radio Shack" is like "Foot Locker"!


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 3:12 PM
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Well, I hope all that answered your questions, Ms Geebie.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 3:20 PM
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I did find the post useful in reminding that the category "lobbyists" doesn't just mean corporate lobbyists.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 3:25 PM
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Things that look better as I get older: volcanoes

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Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 3:33 PM
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PH was laying the seeds for a rhyming slogan (Mate hlad? Pizza Hut!) that worked well in the 90s, when there was still a country full of people grateful for a soggy frisbee covered with sweetened ketchup and SynCheese or whatever that stuff is.

Back in the early nineties it sometimes seemed like everything I was served in Czechoslovakia was covered with sweetened ketchup. This was especially true in private homes. (scrambled eggs, bread with cheese, pork cutlets, boiled potatoes, knedliki...)


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 4:11 PM
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Lobbying is kind of a tricky subject. There are lobbying groups that are more like advocacy groups that focus on a particular set of issues or constituency and then there are lobbying (or public affairs, or whatever they call it) firms for hire. Sometimes the former hire the latter, sometimes they have their own lobbyists in house, but I think when people think about lobbyists absent some specific context - or in the context of lobbying reform - they think of lobbying firms. I worked for a non-profit a couple of years ago that did lobby for stuff and had registered lobbyists on staff, but I would find it difficult to call it simply a "lobbying group" because it did so much other advocacy stuff. It wouldn't occur to me to call it a charity either, but I guess under the law it's in the same tax sections.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 4:22 PM
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For the practically linguistically inclined. 'Mate hlad?' is an example of both the ease and difficulty of cross slavic comprehension. Mate in Polish is 'Macie' and 'hlad' is 'głód' so quite similar especially if you know that the Polish 'g' is often a 'h' in other Slavic languages and that the 'cie' is often 'te'. However, the phrase in Polish wouldn't be '[do you] have hunger?' but 'are [you] hungry' (Jesteście głodni?) so a Pole who doesn't know any Czech would understand the phrase if the context were clear, but not otherwise.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 4:37 PM
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Thaaat's where we wanna go...Derek Jeter's Taco Hole!


Posted by: Bonsaisue | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 6:43 PM
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I thought "Pizza Hut" was so called because its food resembles what pizza would be if it was developed by Germans

Nah, then it would have to have corn on it.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 8:08 PM
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The Germans put corn on pizza too? Is this an Axis thing?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 8:46 PM
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That depends on whether or not Oswald Mosley picks British pizza toppings.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-11 8:50 PM
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The Germans put corn on pizza too? Is this an Axis thing?

I don't think so. I've definitely seen my fair share of corn on British pizzas.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-11-11 5:35 AM
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67: The first place I saw (sweet) corn on pizza was a Pizza Hut in England.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-11-11 9:58 AM
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Yeah, quite common in the UK. But only with some combinations -- e.g. ham and pineapple quite often has sweetcorn added.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06-11-11 10:02 AM
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The next noun to watch for is shanty.

There is a restaurant called "Clam Shanty" on Route 1 in Maine.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 06-11-11 12:17 PM
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Have I told the story here of how I got excited to see a sign for "Chicago-style pizza" outside a Pizza Hut in Germany? Too my great dismay, I learned that thiz apparently meant pizza topped with sweet corn and salami.

And then I found 5 DM.


Posted by: Di kotimy | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 6:13 AM
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When I was a kid, my mother put sweet pickle cubes on frozen pizzas. I remember liking it, though it seems totally weird in retrospect.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 6:21 AM
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Did she ever unfreeze them?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 6:45 AM
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No, she'd just put them back in the grocery store freezer.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 6:53 AM
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71: Ew. But then, even in most of America it's hard to know what you're going to get if you see a place billing itself as Chicago-style.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 9:10 AM
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46: According to Wikipedia, Pizza Hut was originally so named because the original sign the original owners purchased had room for only nine characters, including spaces.

That's actually an urban legend. In fact, the sign for the original location was so large that the business was named "El Pizza de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula", but due to the vicious anti-Spanish backlash in Wichita in the late 1950s, they were forced to Anglicize it.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 10:03 AM
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It's a little known fact that the actual mission of the Mission by that name outside Santa Fe was to deliver pizza to the native population who had lived in ignorance of this marvelous food.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-12-11 10:11 AM
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さり気なくオシャレに、それがグッチ 財布GUCCI バッグの世界!定番人気のグッチ ショルダーは、上品さ薫る至高のGGスタイル!!


Posted by: グッチ 財布 | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 11:47 PM
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