Re: I think you think we're going to break up, but we're really not. Pinky swear.

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Perhaps they want you to take a new plan so they can get out of your grandfathered unlimited-data plan. Cough AT&T cough.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 11:46 AM
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That might just annoy me enough for me to switch providers, depending what I was doing at the time. At least my outfit has the decency to use SMS for its spam, so you can ignore it.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 11:47 AM
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When that happened to me I sent an email to the provider saying that I wasn't very happy with their service and the sales calls were putting me over the edge. So if I received another sales call I would cancel my plan immediately. It worked!


Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 11:58 AM
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There was a point when I was getting a call every week from my network trying to sell me something. I eventually got them to knock it off, although on the other hand I was grateful when they called me to offer a free upgrade to my current phone.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:02 PM
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I would like to communicate something similar to every single Democratic candidate in America about their emails. I support your efforts! But I do not want to receive 3 emails a day from every campaign in the country for the next year and a half. I can't do it. No, I can't even make the thousands of picnics and barbecues and town hall meetings in Kentucky and everywhere else. To be honest, I never even signed up for your email list.

How bad of a person does it make me to unsubscribe?


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:17 PM
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5: Just explain that, in this economy, cuts must be made to your inbox budget. It's common sense, yo.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:22 PM
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We all need to tighten our belts.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:29 PM
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Running an email account is like running a household. Exactly like it.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:31 PM
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That explains the cases and cases of SPAM I keep on finding in the kitchen.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:50 PM
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I would like to communicate something similar to every single Democratic candidate in America about their emails.

Yet another reason to support the Trapnel Plan for Electionless Utopia.


Posted by: trapnel | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:52 PM
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Posted by: trapnel | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 12:57 PM
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OT question: What's amusing to do in Las Vegas if you're not particularly interested in gambling? Buck has a convention and I'm tagging along for a weekend. Assume that I have no standards of tastefulness or maturity -- particularly good rollercoasters are interesting, as are especially ridiculous examples of hotel lobby decor. But really, I find that I have no idea.

I'm not opposed to gambling, I'm just cheap and unskilled, but if anyone wanted to give me tips on ways to spend an hour or two losing fifty buck or so other than just putting it into slot machines, I might be interested in that.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:12 PM
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12: Ahead of your trip, watch Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas; take notes; do the opposite of everything they do.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:20 PM
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Assume that I have no standards of tastefulness

The Liberace Museum. Turns out it's "temporarily closed to the public at this time", though.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:21 PM
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What's amusing to do in Las Vegas if you're not particularly interested in gambling?

Strippers and coke.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:21 PM
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So preordering the fifty pounds of grapefruit was a mistake?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:21 PM
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The American Dream is still out there somewhere.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:23 PM
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There's a Chihuly display at the Bellagio.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:25 PM
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I've heard the Atomic Testing Museum is interesting.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:26 PM
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The Liberace Museum

Just yesterday I listened to a Savage Love podcast where Dan Savage likened Marcus Bachmann to Liberace. Spot on.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:29 PM
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a Chihuly display

I swear I first read that as Cthulu--which would be appropriate for Las Vegas, come to think of it.

There is spectacularly beautiful desert one to two hours drive from Las Vegas. After you've seen the pirate ship show (free!) and the awesome timed fountains (also free!), rent a car and get the hell out of Dodge. You can come back in the evenings for your Celine Dion show or whatever.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:34 PM
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21: Ooh, Red Rocks. I'm not sure LB can handle that much horizon, though.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:35 PM
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What's amusing to do in Las Vegas if you're not particularly interested in gambling?

The New York New York rollercoaster is quite fun. It's the only one I've been on in Vegas though, so maybe there are better ones. Penn and Teller are well worth seeing. As for ridiculous hotel decor, the indoor canal at the Venetian is up there, as is the full scale Trojan horse at Caesar's Palace. If you're willing to venture away from the Strip, the Golden Nugget off Fremont Street has a shark tank with a water slide going through it.

I haven't been in a few years though, so it's possible some of the newer ones (probably the Wynn ones) are even more silly.

Gambling wise, I'd suggest entering a low stakes poker tournament. But that's because I love poker. You may not.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:40 PM
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The Fremont St. Experience/"VivaVision", at night. Something like five blocks of tacky, yet impressively huge, overhead video display.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:43 PM
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he Golden Nugget off Fremont Street has a shark tank with a water slide going through it.

Holy Christ. Now I want to go to Vegas.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:44 PM
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I know. It's awesome, isn't it? I was booked there for a conference because it's dirt cheap, and then I rock up and see a freaking shark tank water slide. Vegas is so cool in small doses.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:47 PM
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I find that nothing becomes Vegas like the leaving of it, me. What, are you there now? The Dwarf Lord is -- he doesn't like it either, poor grummit, but the meetings are important to his profession.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:52 PM
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a shark tank with a water slide going through it.

OMG.

I might look for poker if I could find not-Texas Hold'em. I never got the hang of that, and it seems to be all anyone plays.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:52 PM
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27: No, end of the month.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:52 PM
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Part of me suspects the weekend is actually going to end with Buck having a conversation like this.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 1:58 PM
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Don't take your Nest Egg.

Agree with JM, get out of town for a bit. Hoover Dam maybe... but hard to beat the shark.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:01 PM
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30: I got phone call, you ...


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:02 PM
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Make going to Zion your single highest priority, even if it means a day of crazy driving.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:09 PM
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Hoover Dam is awesome. And there's so much terrazzo!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:21 PM
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Huh. We really weren't planning to rent a car, and Zipcar isn't in Vegas.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:22 PM
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Wait, I could be a crazy-person and put my bike in a bag and bring it with me. It wouldn't get me out of town, but it would get me around Vegas.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:23 PM
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I'll be in Vegas tomorrow. For work.

I hate Vegas and think it's evil. Nonetheless, the Liberace Museum is worth seeing. The shark-filled aquarium at Mandalay Bay is genuinely awesome, one of the best aquariums I've ever been to. And the Cirque Du Soleil shows are great. I like the depressed looking lions in the MGM Grand.

The famous Thai restaurant -- Lotus of Siam -- is in fact really good. And there are lots and lots of other really great restaurants, of course. Probably the best thing you can do is eat a lot and sit by a pool.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:49 PM
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Oh, and Vegas is a gigantic pain in the ass to get around whether you have or don't have a car. The casinos are impregnable fortresses and walking is pretty much impossible, especially in August. If you travel with your family you're less likely to have cab drivers offer to sell you women, which happens to me about 50% of the time I'm in a cab alone in Vegas.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:51 PM
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23 et seq.: when I had a consulting gig in the Bahamas a few years ago, they put me up in a hotel with a shark-tank water slide, done up as (what else?) a Mayan temple. Perhaps inevitably, it was not as much fun as it sounds.


Posted by: Cosma Shalizi | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:54 PM
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Also, the art collection at the Bellagio is in fact excellent and worth seeing.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 2:59 PM
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Agree with Megan about Zion. Death Valley is also worth experiencing if you haven't, 2 hour drive. (It'll be 115+ degrees so you know. Hydrate.) The casinos are confusing but not exactly impregnable. I kind of like walking between them by using the sidewalks, but it's farther than it looks, and likely very hot, maybe crowded, and lots of guys pushing cards in your face featuring laydeez. Still some nice views of preposterous fountains, incongruities, etc.

You could also take a helicopter to the Grand Canyon, no idea how expensive or cool that is.


Posted by: ursyne | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 3:11 PM
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Ahead of your trip, watch read this; take notes; do the opposite of everything they do.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 3:15 PM
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The first time I went to Vegas was before I had spent much time in Florida or southern California. I had only seen palm trees maybe a few times in my childhood. And there I was, walking down a street lined with fake everything, and there in the middle of the street between the two lanes was palm tree after palm tree. I had to keep reminding myself that trees were not fake.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 3:43 PM
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This looks pretty neat--but not sure you can get in. The Neon Museum (although it looks like some of their collection is on display on Fremont St.).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 3:57 PM
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The casinos are impregnable fortresses and walking is pretty much impossible, especially in August.

Yeah, as a non-driver, all I can say is it's not as bad as Dubai. But trying to get from, say, the Rio to the Venetian on foot is a fucking nightmare. And that's ignoring the heat, which is wearing even if you're just walking down the Strip. On the other hand, walking at night allows you to appreciate Vegas's own northern lights, if there's any cloud cover. The only place I've ever been where the entire sky is purple and green.

I've no idea how close Zion is to Vegas, but if it's reachable, do it. Beautiful place. Also Bryce Canyon, which I think is pretty close to Zion, by American standards.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 4:21 PM
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Don't bring your bike. Don't go outside. It's going to be 120 degrees there. Seconded on the NY NY roller coaster.


Posted by: Molly | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 4:24 PM
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Zion is two and a half hours and well worth it. Entirely worth it. You will only regret that Buck couldn't also go. Bryce is more like four hours, which is less worth it.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 4:41 PM
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Is there a way to hire a person to drive a car from one place to another? How much would that sort of thing cost? ~900 miles.

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Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 5:06 PM
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Sure!


Posted by: Travis Bickle | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 5:10 PM
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Molly gets it exactly right. About the not going outside.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 5:22 PM
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Viva! Las Vegas!

God, I love me some Elvis. AND YOU GUYS!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 5:57 PM
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Neon Museum

In Vegas? I can't decide if that would have made Philip Marlowe cry or say "about time."


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 7:33 PM
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Telcom propaganda is especially lame and mockable, if not loathesome.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=stock_photos


Posted by: E | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 8:13 PM
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who insists that anyone passing within a few hundred miles of it go to Zion. Seriously, it is worth it, and who wants to spend time in Vegas, anyway? (Disclaimer: I've never been in Vegas except for the airport.)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 9:46 PM
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I agree with everyone else about Zion. Southern Utah is a true national treasure.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 08- 3-11 10:27 PM
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Make going to Zion your single highest priority, even if it means a day of crazy driving forty years of aimless pottering around eating stale manna.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 1:27 AM
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I thought the whole point of manna was that it disappeared or went bad after a day, so it was never stale (except on the Sabbath)?


Posted by: mealworm | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 2:28 AM
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Same phenomenon as in the OP?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 6:56 AM
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give me tips on ways to spend an hour or two losing fifty buck or so other than just putting it into slot machines, I might be interested in that.

I think gambling is basically dumb and have renounced it completely, but if you want to get sucked in, there's always basic strategy blackjack -- you can memorize the strategy in 10 minutes online and in some casinos they pass out cards. A moderately more fun option is playing pass line craps and taking odds (just look up the rules some place online).

Those are your best "bets" (i.e., you still lose over time, but not by as much) in the table games, (except for poker, which one theroretically can win, but which you personally will lose). And they can be moderately fun, certainly more so than throwing coins into a slot machine. But if you're on the Strip you definitely are quite likely to lose a lot more than $50 if you stay playing for an hour; there aren't a lot of $5 tables.

Don't play anything called "Casino War." Roulette has a nice spinning wheel but is truly a suckers game, even more so than all the other suckers games.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 7:21 AM
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If you are Wesley Snipes, you should play roulette.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 7:24 AM
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Roulette has a nice spinning wheel but is truly a suckers game, even more so than all the other suckers games.

Less so in Europe, but still so.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 7:48 AM
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Ian Fleming has a whole riff about the American double-zero in Diamonds are Forever.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08- 4-11 8:10 AM
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