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Winona Ryder is pretty good at not aging for the last 25 years.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 5:41 PM
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I also caught a bit of Beetlejuice the other night, and it made me think of the thread on face recognition, specifically this comment, where Moby seems to be unaware that Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman are the same person.

I couldn't remember which of those two names got credit for the Beetlejuice role, but it turns out it was actually "Alec Baldwin."



Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 5:52 PM
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I preferred (and prefer, probably) Samantha Mathis. I saw her at a reading in Manhattan some years ago; come to think of it, that reading must have been the second or third public event that the Ex and I attended together.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:10 PM
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I watched The Goonies the other night. I was completely blitzed, but I really don't think that movie makes much sense when you're sober, either. High-period high-budget-'80s-kid-caper, brilliantly directed by surrealist master Dick Donner.

In other news, I just set 1.75 liters of vodka a'infusin'. Some grapefruit, some basil and cucumber, some saffron. Violating my own advice to former roommates who have take up home-brewing and can't get consistent results, I didn't really measure and am not keeping records of these experiments.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:15 PM
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The Goonies is very clearly an allegory about the foreign policy of the Ford administration.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:31 PM
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5: Racist.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:34 PM
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2: The Bill Paxton or Bill Pullman Test.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:35 PM
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7: Game over, man! Game over!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:37 PM
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7: 83%, without google.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:47 PM
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8: According to the test that was Alec Baldwin neither of them.

And apparently unscripted.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:48 PM
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My favorite part of that Onion article is when the dude says "Wow. I'd better shave."


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:49 PM
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9: I was 58%.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:49 PM
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I was just telling the story of the time I was "recognized" as Winona Ryder. (It was the mid-90s and there were ripped sweaters and tights and combat boots and bright red lipstick.) It's completely unnerving to have someone approach you all crazy/stupefied looking with goggling eyes and slack jaw.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 6:52 PM
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I always get those names confused because I automatically think of the Paxton strike.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 7:01 PM
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It was Pullman who invented the concept of the "Glass Ceiling" to describe how porters couldn't advance. Right?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 7:35 PM
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13: It's completely unnerving to have someone approach you all crazy/stupefied looking with goggling eyes and slack jaw.

On more than one occasion I've had people come up to me with that "wow it's him" look on their faces (or worse, the "hi I could totes be a groupie" look) and say, "Hey man, great show the other night." The usual culprit is ?westlove. Who looks nothing like me at all apart from having an afro and a beard.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 8:32 PM
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It's tough being mistaken for Fabio, but I've learned to roll with it.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 8:52 PM
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Homeless guy to me in 1996ish: Hey, Bud! Hey Bud Bundy!

Oh well. I had a horrible goatee.

I don't want to sleep with Winona Ryder but I have an irrational certainty that she gets me. So there is some kind of pansexual Gen X cathexis maybe.

personal to Bave: I have a hunch precision is not a big deal in infusing. If I were not going on a liquor diet (um, in a week or two) I would want to try infusing some new and crazy things, m'self.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 9:25 PM
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A couple of weeks ago some guy told me that I looked like Bob Ross. When I said "Thanks, I think", he assured me that it was a compliment.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 9:43 PM
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Some blog warned that too much saffron makes vodka taste mediciney. Other than that, I suspect things will work out.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 9:58 PM
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20: Must've been some kind of conservative blog. Any real blog knows there's no such thing as too much saffron. Lean in to that saffron like a Burmese Buddhist monk, yo.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-15-11 10:17 PM
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Saffron makes everything taste like air from a pouch. I dislike it.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 12:08 AM
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Air from a pouch! Exactly. And who doesn't like air from a pouch. COMMIES, that's who.

I just met the most beautiful Filipina with the biggest... tracts of land... EVER and I'm perhaps slightly drunk, so please take the prior paragraph with however many grains of salt are deemed necessary for universal liberal enjoyment.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 12:35 AM
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Whatever you're doing, always use less saffron than you think. It tastes better and costs less.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 1:24 AM
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8: the only actor to have been killed by an Alien, a Predator and a Terminator. It's not easy being Bill.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 1:24 AM
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Never really got the Ryder fascination myself, and at 39 I'd guess I'm right in the target demographic.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:36 AM
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26: the Americans have this thing with their women called "kooky" which is apparently different from "annoying" but it's a distinction that escapes me.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:40 AM
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She (Ryder) is perfectly attractive and all that, but not in a way that exerts any kind of fascination. Many many other actresses that are more interesting/attractive (to me).


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:43 AM
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The Onion hits this thread with laser-guided precision.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:50 AM
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re: 29

Er, that was linked from the OP. Which is why the topic is under discussion.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:58 AM
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19: Are your trees happy?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:59 AM
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Winona's problem: never knowingly funny. Even in that one ep of Friends -- which actually is funny, or at least the closing scene is, especially at a meta meta level, hullo OP -- WR plays the hapless lesbian who doesn't get it, so the joke ends up on her. She can be in comedy, but she can't DO comedy.


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 4:22 AM
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Me an' my mate like AC/DC - hot an' sweaty, loud an' greasy!


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:05 AM
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Homeless guy to me in 1996ish: Hey, Bud! Hey Bud Bundy!

Oh man.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:12 AM
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A few years ago in DC, a South Asian immigrant asked me if I was Tom Friedman. I suppose he thought I might be doing research, and just wanted to give me the solution to the world's ills.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:26 AM
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That Onion article reminded me of that horrible horrible scene in Stephen King's It. I think everyone that read that book to the end will know what I'm referring to.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:29 AM
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35: His mustache is his most prominent feature.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:38 AM
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A few years ago in DC, a South Asian immigrant asked me if I was Tom Friedman.

CharleyCarp is Paul Krugman!

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/got-those-blues/#


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:42 AM
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Oh, I would have thought that time was more the thing to monitor than quantity in infusing, but the internet is probably talking out its ass less than I am. Though currently I am the internet so...I don't know quite where I'm going with this.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 7:27 AM
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Saffron makes everything taste like air from a pouch. I dislike it.

This is nuts.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 8:02 AM
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Turns out saffron threads turn almost white after swimming in vodka overnight. The stuff mostly tastes like vodka, with an interesting aftertaste: saffrony, but lighter than the saffron taste you get from cooking. It's missing that back-of-the-palate uncanny near-umaminess. I'll taste again this afternoon. I might need to add a bit more saffron.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 8:39 AM
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I'll taste again this afternoon.

Tuesday afternoon drinking. Hooray!


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 8:42 AM
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40: not just nuts but incoherent. Air from a pouch? Who breathes air from a pouch? Is this some sort of marsupial fetish thing?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 8:48 AM
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If I were not going on a liquor diet (um, in a week or two)

I recommend at least a bit of solids.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 8:58 AM
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I'll be traveling in a few days, and I'd like some book recommendations for the trip. The last two books I read that I liked were "Cloud Atlas" and "2666".

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Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:23 AM
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45: Read The Keep! Or, if in your travels you want the funny, read Home Land by Sam Lipsyte or Wake Up, Sir! by Jonathan Ames. (It's impossible for you to dislike Home Land, I am certain, but perhaps Wake Up, Sir! -- a kind of modern take on Jeeves/Wooster with an alcoholic failed novelist at an artists' colony -- is iffier.)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:29 AM
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Who's the author of The Keep? (There are a bunch of books with that title, apparently.) The other two sound good.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:33 AM
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C, by Tom McCarthy, if you're Kindle-enabled or can still find the hardcover somewhere (it doesn't come out in paperback until 9/6).

The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet, by David Mitchell.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:34 AM
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45: Since you aren't operating under heebie's book club rules -- Skippy Dies. It's very funny and very sad, and reading it at times seemed almost like a traumatic experience, but I wound up loving it.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:34 AM
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Also, seconding Home Land.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:34 AM
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I read the first part of Skippy Dies and I thought it sucked, so, you know.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:37 AM
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47: Jennifer Egan.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:37 AM
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I recommend The Third Policeman.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:37 AM
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I wasn't mad keen on C. It was OK, but it reminded me too much of other things.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 9:38 AM
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I started Independent People based on Nosflow and Stormcrow's recommendation So far, so awesome.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:15 AM
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OT: Can anyone recommend any of the discount Canadian online pharmacies? Not for anything brain- or groin-related: my insurer has informed me that I am too old for acne medications to be covered, though not too old to get acne, and the retail prices of stuffs like Differin are really crazy high.


Posted by: Garren Belial Harding | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:26 AM
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55: great book, no doubt, but weird title.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:27 AM
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56: Isn't "discount Candian online pharmacy" kind of like "respectable Nigerian banker with a proposal just for you" or that kind of thing?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:31 AM
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58: Some Candians prefer to be called "Caramellos," I believe.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:43 AM
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"Canadian" can also be replaced with "rye" in some contexts.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:44 AM
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59: Flip, have you read Wake Up, Sir!? You should.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:47 AM
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61: I have no time for Jonathan Ames. He just seems so annoying.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:52 AM
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I have no time for Ames, IA. If I'm going to go to Iowa, I'm going to the state farm to get a fried, frosted stick of butter.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:57 AM
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62: Really funny in person. I saw him a while back at some standup/storytelling thing, and hurt myself laughing.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 10:59 AM
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Bored to Death is pretty annoying, but that might be Jason Schwartzman's fault, not Ames's.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:23 AM
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63: I tried that and, to my surprise, found nothing fried at all! Just a bunch of glossy insurance brochures.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:24 AM
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63: Good God, what do they frost the butter with?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:26 AM
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Lard, I'd assume.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:31 AM
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We are a doomed people nation culture race.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:32 AM
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68: confectioner's sugar glaze


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:34 AM
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I'm going to go get some Swedish Fish and bask in my relatively healthy eating.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:36 AM
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You could top off those Swedish Fish with a corned-beef Reuben and a quart of mezcal and probably still be ahead of the game against deep-fried butter.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:45 AM
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72: Sure, but once you've had a deep-fried Reuben, it's so hard to go back.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 11:48 AM
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Somebody in Wisconsin is making egg rolls filled with Reuben fixings. The line between genius and madness is always thin and sometimes you have to wait for the judgment of history.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 12:08 PM
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74: Is "thin" really the mot juste there?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 12:10 PM
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If RH is right, then the bread is the fattening part of the Reuben. The egg roll version would be healtheir.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 12:12 PM
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Or even healthier.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 12:12 PM
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74: A friend of mine came up with the reuben pirogie. You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:23 PM
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Does the dressing go inside or not?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 3:49 PM
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Do I remember that some of you Angelenos don't like Villaraigosa? How come? Because if he keeps talking about overturning Prop 13, he's liable to win my heart.

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Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 5:06 PM
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I don't strongly dislike him, it's more that he's been a gigantic waste of potential and a big disappointment. He's redeemed himself a little on transportation and other issues recently.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 08-16-11 6:28 PM
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