Re: Lech would be proud.

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Was there supposed to be a second link there?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 11:40 AM
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1: Huh? No, just the flamboyant Polish dudes.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 11:45 AM
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And dudettes.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 11:47 AM
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3: I'm a proponent of the non-gendered "dude". Same goes for "actor".


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 11:52 AM
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Just had delicious celery apple soup. I am now looking for recipes. This was pretty simple, not curried or anything. Can't decide if I want to try to make a potato-based one or one with milk.

Gourmet used to have a feature where they would write to a restaurant and ask for a recipe. WANT. Sigh.

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Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 12:15 PM
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I love Polish people!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 2:00 PM
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That was terrible.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 2:16 PM
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5: Bon Appetit still has that feature. But I bet you could also try calling yourself - they might be able to direct you to theirs!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 3:12 PM
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2: Because the "is really something" for me has that linkless underline on mouseover that, in comments, usually means I messed up a link.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 3:32 PM
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9: Oh. That's because I messed up a link. Fixed now.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 3:36 PM
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I listen to some really shitty music!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 3:37 PM
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Unsurprisingly OT bleg: I need help clicking my pelvic joint (there's some better term) into place so that one leg will stop hanging as if it's longer than the other. (I should maybe have said I've been in excruciating back pain for a few weeks now, getting worse these past days.) I lost the paper from my physical therapist saying exactly how to do this so Lee could help me, because the one-person version never worked too well. Does anyone have a clue what I should google and/or do?

I know I could go see my doctor and ask for more physical therapy, but they'll say things like not to hold kids, which just isn't realistic even though I try to avoid it and plus it'll take six weeks to get a referral and then they'll want me to go three times a week, which I can't do even if in six weeks we only have Mara in the house, which is likely. I guess I'll make an appointment and ask for muscle relaxants at least, but I need to do more for my body myself too. Fuck.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 4:12 PM
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No idea what you could google, although I bet if you got the right search terms you could find something. But: have you considered just calling the physical therapist, and saying that you lost the instruction sheet that they gave you, and asking if they could email/fax/mail you a replacement? I'd think they'd do that for you without requiring another appointment.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 4:52 PM
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Actually thought I might drive by on the off chance I'll look pitiful enough that they'll just do the fix. They still owe me my thank-you t-shirt, but it's been more than a year since I went. I'm sure they can pull up my chart and give me something, anyway.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 5:00 PM
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Feel better soon. I have no idea how to fix that. My hip sort of "pops" from time to time, but it goes back when I walk for a bit.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 6:10 PM
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13: urple's suggestion is good. I'm just the sort of person that would google how to put your hip joint back in and then try it, which is why no one should ever ask me for advice. sorry you're hurting. yes, the suggestions like "never pick up anything off the ground/that weighs more than 15lbs/etc." are frustrating. I mean, you should follow your doctor's instructions. but...stuff falls over, kids need to get picked up, maybe that sideboard would be better 8 inches to the left, life gets in the way, you know?


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 6:24 PM
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So, Canadians, did you all know that-- even though Toronto is a more interesting city than it used to be with great restaurants--you can't raise a family there, because the immigrants have taken over?

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Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 6:43 PM
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Immigrants from Michigan are hard to live with.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 6:44 PM
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It's the Yoopers who are really insufferable.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 6:46 PM
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Twenty-three years ago a doctor told me never to lift more than 80 pounds. I've never asked another doctor if that still held because I don't like helping people move appliances.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 6:47 PM
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That was terrible.

Hater.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 8:23 PM
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17: sad news. let's hope shearer is scared away from reading the thread by the polishness. cuz, you know, polish people.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 9:20 PM
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re:celery soup, I'd go straightforward, onions in butter, celery and apples and 1 potato in chicken broth with a bouquet garni, blending, finish with small amount of cream. unless there was some thrilling herb in there I don't know about.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-27-11 9:22 PM
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The Polish did well, but the limeys did it better and first...


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 7:18 AM
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polish people

Remember when we used to say "Pollacks"? How quickly did that change with Solidarity? I assume that and, more significantly, Pollack jokes died abruptly but my memory isn't completely clear. Pretty remarkable cultural shift given how widespread and acceptable those jokes were. I remember a "Polish calculator" that was a pencil with a power cord attached.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 8:59 AM
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I heard tons and ton of Polish jokes when I was a kid. Was also in one of the highest concentrations of Polish people in the US. Never heard the word "Pollack" though.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:00 AM
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Thorn, that sounds just awful. I hope you got some relief.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:01 AM
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Polak is the word in Polish for a person from Poland.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:07 AM
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Yeah, but it was derogatory in the U.S. because Poles were stereotyped as stupid.

(The management apologizes for any confusion with that drippy painter guy caused by her misspelling.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:14 AM
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24: Would the uses to which the Union Jack is put in that video be controversial? Because if anyone, never mind members of the military, had done that with a U.S. flag, peoples' heads would have exploded.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:19 AM
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Sure, but if you're in physical proximity to slavs talking to each other, it's a word you hear. There's a more highly charged term for African Americans that's analogous, in that dropping the term from polite speech leaves a lot of usage intact. Treating either word as only a slur used by the majority population is not right, I think.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:23 AM
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Ooh, not sure which thread this belongs in: Do crackers say cracker?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:24 AM
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I wasn't paying attention at the time, but I always assumed Polish jokes and slurs died out gradually because of irrelevance, not quickly for political reasons. It's not like we only started derogating the Poles upon the formation of a Communist government there.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:28 AM
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Polish:American::Irish:English::Belgian:French::Luo:Kikuyu, etc.

I remember some people making a fuss about Shakespeare for being anti-Polish because of the line, "And smote the sledded Polaks on the ice", referring to Fortinbras in Hamlet. Shakespeare may well have visited Gdansk, he certainly knew people who had. He was shooting for authentic.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:28 AM
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30. Brits can do what the fuck we like with the Union Jack. We've got a queen; we don't have to worship a tea towel.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:30 AM
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I don't have access to this article, but a citer reports it as saying "[t]he Polish joke cycle... transfers heat from other ethnic groups including Jews and blacks to the lower socioeconomic classes in general."


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:33 AM
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22: No, Polish people are okay. His daughter-inlaw is Polish. It's the Asians who don't speak English who are the problem and the Somalis and their Sharia law.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:42 AM
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Fortinbras was Norwegian or Swedish, wasn't he?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:44 AM
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Fortinbras was (completely fictional) Crown Prince of Norway. AFAICS he exists only as a device to ensure that somebody is still alive at the end of the play.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:49 AM
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It may have been Hamlet's dad who fought the war against Poland, now I think about it. One of those two. Irrelevant to the action of "Hamlet", whichever.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:53 AM
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Oh, I see I misunderstood who was doing the smiting.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:56 AM
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Polish jokes were certainly omnipresent and mainstream in NE Ohio in the '60s, and also were a staple of regional and even national TV shows like Laugh In at the time. I do think there may have been something like what is described in 36 going on . There was a concerted effort by various Polish-American organizations to confront NBC etc. on the topic.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 9:58 AM
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In Minnesota in the 50s and 60s Polish jokes were replaced by Slobovian jokes. Still a bit of anti-Slavic nastiness, but no specific target.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 10:02 AM
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re: 30

British people think US flag-worship is very very strange.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 10:02 AM
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My dad said Polish jokes started because after JFK the Irish joke didn't work as well.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 10:02 AM
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25: "Pollack" is an actual name of actual people. The slur is Polack, I'm pretty sure.

I have an internet friend, probably a 1965 refugee, with an unmistakably Polish name, and he was not encouraged to attend college because of his ethnicity. They told him that in so many words and probably steered him into plumbing. He did well anyway, but still has hard feelings.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 10:05 AM
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I mean, 1956 refugee.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 10:06 AM
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Speaking of plumbing, the guy on the TV was installing a shower with a remote control. I assume this is because flushing the toilet to change the water temperature is too common to be a good practical joke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 10:50 AM
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44: Yeah, tell me about it.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12-28-11 12:20 PM
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