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I didn't watch the video, because, well. But, I did read the comments. Which was exactly like living in my house. Spooky.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 3:06 PM
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Am I going to be put on some register if I follow the links?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 3:19 PM
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I didn't read the comments, but I liked the video.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 3:33 PM
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Ve Germans Flippanters aren't all smiles und sunshine, neb.


Posted by: OPINIONATED FLIPPANTER IF HE WERE A GERMAN ON "THE SIMPSONS" | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 4:50 PM
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Seriously, those stories are terrifying. Now I have to spend an hour Googling "silent religious retreats." Again.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 4:52 PM
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Nobody bookmarks anything?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 4:55 PM
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We totes have to start saying 'defs'.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 5:00 PM
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Whatevs.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 5:05 PM
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7 - obvs.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 5:09 PM
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I think the good explanation is that someone from the Mineshaft put it on Facebook and squeed about it.

(Is there a name for the Mineshaft-on-Facebook? Mineface?)


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 6:15 PM
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10: faceshaft


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 6:18 PM
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10 is incorrect!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 6:19 PM
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Shaftbook.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 6:20 PM
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From the last link, "It was over when":

He called me a c*** because I told him it was stupid that he and his ex-girlfriend had joint custody of their dogs.

Now. He should not have called her a c***. But there is not a damned thing wrong with having joint custody with the ex- of the pets. If she carried on and on about how stupid it was to do so, I'd have become, let's say, impatient with her.

I call this one a toss-up.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 6:26 PM
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13: Damn right.

It's Blaxploitation History Month already?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 7:51 PM
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I have learned that if I were to start dating again then if I drink beer I get dumped, if I don't drink beer I get dumped, if I make a pass I get dumped, if I don't make a pass I get dumped, if the pass is aggressive I get dumped, if it isn't aggressive I get dumped.

Memo to self: ask Flip about those religious retreats.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 7:57 PM
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So while you guys are giving out dating sartorial advice, I've got one for you.

I had a big date tonight with a young lady (much younger than me, actually.) I wore gray slacks, a and a black shirt with white stripes. I was going to wear this one green jacket, but my wife said it clashed, so I wore a blue-green tweed jacket.

(My wife is totally cool with my date with this young lady, because that's the kind of relationship we have.)

In any case, my date spend a substantial portion of the evening acting embarrassed that I even exist, and just wanted to dance with her friends.

Is this because the pants, if you look closely at them, have a checked patter which clashes with the striped shirt?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:08 PM
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-d +t +n


Posted by: Molly | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:12 PM
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-a


Posted by: Molly | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:14 PM
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Did you place your hand on the small of her back when guiding her through a door, to convey interest?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:20 PM
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Maybe it's because you're totally lame, and not because of your clothes directly at all.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:25 PM
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It may just be me, but a black shirt with white stripes seems very dated.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:27 PM
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20: My daddy gives me these small little shoves in the small of the back when he wants me to go into rooms. It's like he influences me into rooms from behind. This tiny little irritating push, that makes me want to let him have it in the shin.


Posted by: A student at Enfield Tennis Academy, asked if she has been touched by a tall person in an uncomforta | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 8:56 PM
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I feel like I'm in the target audience of Rookie being a female of a certain age (30ish) but I hate it sio much. Like it's made for the cool girls and the hip girls? (help me I'm Beck's style in Alabama)


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:04 PM
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Reminds me of ogged's old criteria.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:14 PM
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(Okay, I'm fine again. You'd think I'd be adjusted after almost 4 years but I still feel stuck.)


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:18 PM
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help me I'm Beck's style in Alabama

The "Show Me Your Papers" state!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:19 PM
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I believe the target audience of Rookie is roughly half your age, hydrobatidae.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:20 PM
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I thought you were Canadian?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:22 PM
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Canada years are half as long.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:27 PM
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And their Columbia has a U in it, unlike the one in South America. Everyone should learn these two rules.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:30 PM
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We get cocaine from Colmbia?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:36 PM
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I am Canadian! But I'm in Real America. And yes, I'm (insert cute accent here) out and about without my passport and visa but they don't mean MY sort. Which is extra fucked up. Right now I'm just surroned by soroity girls who are dumber and blonder than you'd imagine (also really straight hair) and I was reading a book (Heyer) at the bar and listenign to the awesome music ( Sam Cooke! Beatles! Travellinmg Willburies!) and wishing it was different. But only a couple more months


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:37 PM
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Colmbia

Cocaine and hairstyles.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:37 PM
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(help me I'm Beck's style in Alabama ... You'd think I'd be adjusted after almost 4 years but I still feel stuck.)

Yeah, after 4 years, you really should have sobered up, at least intermittently.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:38 PM
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Oh, that didn't come across right. Sigh.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:40 PM
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Rookie isn't really for teenage girls - it's what 30 year old ex-Sassy readers wish that teenagers read


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:41 PM
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Rudd's advice seems pretty good, but this is clearly not his best medium. Maybe he just needs more coffee (as he suggests at one point).


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:43 PM
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(By which I mean: I didn't intend to be mocking your sorrowful tipsiness. Or rather, not the sorrow. I guess I did intend to mock the inebriation.)


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:49 PM
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I feel like my coffee drinking has dropped off quite a bit in the last few months. I used to be perfectly willing to drink a full French press and then the better part of another. Now, I barely finish the last, getting-cold cup of the first brew.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:51 PM
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Rookie is at least written mostly by teenage girls, which makes me think that its target really being thirty-year-olds is somewhat implausible.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:52 PM
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Stanley if you got a carafe your coffee would stay hot.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:53 PM
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33 is terribly sad. As, I think I've already indicated, is 40.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:55 PM
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Three or four size 4 moka pots is my daily dosage.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:57 PM
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(i wish I'd been more drunk in the last 4 years. It started well but my friends have left (acedemics are awesome!.). They just played Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon though)


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:57 PM
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34: Has it always been spelled Colombia and I only noticed now? I mean, spelled that way in English.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:57 PM
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I wish I liked the taste of coffee.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:57 PM
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It is a rare day when I drink more than one cup of coffee or more than one espresso. A rare day, I say.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 9:59 PM
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Maybe I should go out and be maudlin somewhere that's not in front of my computer. I could go to this, but it seems a bit precious.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:00 PM
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33 is sad, 40 is sad, 46 is frankly amazing.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:01 PM
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Apparently the only thing I've seen Rudd in is Forgetting Sarah Marshall. But I agree completely, this was quite endearing.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:01 PM
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You should go protest at the burning man org offices, trapnel.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:02 PM
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I have admittedly looked at Rookie once but! The eyerolling! I'll look at it again not on my phone but last time it was all fuzzy pictures of some girl in nughtgowns and 'perfectly' arranged bookshelves of nicknacks from the 80's and 70's (before she was born!). Plus then she went to some fasion shows. I would have rokked my eyes at 16


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:02 PM
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I would have rokked my eyes at 16

So say we all.

What?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:03 PM
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I like my advice like my coffee, dark, bitter and exploitative.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:03 PM
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Also coffee is the awesomest and if you don't drink a lot, you should drink quality.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:04 PM
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46: Yes. Well, I mean, at least for as long as foreign proper names have had standard spellings in English.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:04 PM
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Rolled!!! Stupid phone with tiny type


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:05 PM
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50: I can't be expected to spell everything right on the first try.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:05 PM
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Eyes throwing devil horns and headbanging.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:07 PM
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59: The Italian guy with the boats was named Cristoforo Colombo. Does that help?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:08 PM
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What? It's not named after Coulomb?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:10 PM
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61: Just one more thing....


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:10 PM
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61: I knew how to spell it in Spanish. I thought English was different.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:10 PM
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I drink a fair amount of coffee these days. I have drunk both less and more at various points in my life. The coffee I drink is, on average, very good. Alaska is in some respects very much a part of the Pacific Northwest, and its coffee is one example.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:12 PM
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You should go protest at the burning man org offices, trapnel.

Intriguing idea. But I'm not really the protesting type, and I'm not really the burner type, so I think I'm even less the protesting-bad-decisions-by-BRC type.

I guess I'll go out somewhere and read Habermas? I dunno.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:13 PM
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I tried reading Habermas once. I didn't enjoy it. We could blame the translation if you want.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:16 PM
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But wouldn't the people who named Colombia have called the guy with the boats Colón? And what was Columbus's native language, anyway? More likely to have been some kind of Occitan-ish thing than standard Italian?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:16 PM
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Alaska is in some respects very much a part of the Pacific Northwest

So, for instance, it's in the northwest, and abuts the Pacific.

(Seriously though one of my more idiotic moments was when I was looking at google maps, and started in seattle, and went north to Vancouver, and then Vancouver Island, and then kept going north, and then was like "whoah, Alaska's, like, right there". Also, all the crab fishermans from the swearing-dudes-in-peril show live in Seattle.)


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:16 PM
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When I tried to increase my coffee intake last year, all I got was a burning sensation that I assume is acid reflux. I drink coffee when I really need the caffeine (not actually that often), or if I'm doing a lot of driving. Sweetened cold coffee things I have more often.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:16 PM
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I guess I'll go out somewhere and read Habermas?

You could do worse. I have mentioned that I was once approached in a bar by an attractive woman because I was reading abstruse German philosophy.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:17 PM
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(i wish I'd been more drunk in the last 4 years. It started well but my friends have left (acedemics are awesome!.). They just played Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon though)

If you're anywhere near Auburn, you could go troll the Mis/es Institute in person. It would probably be unpleasant, but it might result in entertaining stories, and there would be synergies with drinking more.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:17 PM
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66: I assume you've come across the coffee-coffeehouse-public sphere-enlightenment connection? It's one of those things that seems to have made the rounds of the academic blogs more than once. Also, I guess there are books.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:18 PM
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Now I want to go to the Italian Riviera.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:18 PM
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And what was Columbus's native language, anyway? More likely to have been some kind of Occitan-ish thing than standard Italian?

Columbus never wrote in his native language, which is presumed to have been a Genoese variety of Ligurian (his very name would translate in XVI century Genoese language as Christoffa Corombo pron. IPA: [kriˈʃtɔffa kuˈɹuŋbu]).

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:19 PM
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I had a conversation with some Canadian friends where I said that part of the reason I moved here was because I wanted to live in the Pacific Northwest and they were all, "northwest?" Completely innocently too. In another tone they could have been making fun of my American-centricness but in context I could have been the one to laugh at them.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:21 PM
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You could do worse. I have mentioned that I was once approached in a bar by an attractive woman because I was reading abstruse German philosophy.

But I'd be reading it in translation, because my German sucks, and on my ereader ("Is that a Kindle?" "No, it's like a Kindle, but better, and European; you wouldn't have heard of it."); both of which, I imagine, would diminish the likelihood of what you're talking about happening.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:23 PM
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Christoffa Corombo pron

Despite the deliberate misspelling, the Church found it and destroyed all copies.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:23 PM
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72: I am in Auburn. What is this Institute you speak of? I can be unpleasant (for Auburn)) so I think I could troll (for Auburn)!


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:23 PM
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Seriously though one of my more idiotic moments was when I was looking at google maps, and started in seattle, and went north to Vancouver, and then Vancouver Island, and then kept going north, and then was like "whoah, Alaska's, like, right there".

Indeed, since Google Maps uses a Mercator projection, it's actually even closer than it looks. Bellingham to Ketchikan on the ferry takes about a day and a half.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:24 PM
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Unless you let that other Italian guy drive the boat.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:25 PM
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I propose that from now on we exclusively refer to him as "Cristoffa Corombo."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:25 PM
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Although I'm pretty sure that IPA transliteration is wrong. It should be [kriˈʃtɔffa kuˈɹumbu].


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:27 PM
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I suspect that x. trapnel's german is actually a lot better than mine in multiple respects.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:27 PM
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Alaska is still like the easy part of Canada. They have trees (even if it's dark in winter).


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:27 PM
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69, 80: Reorient your world.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:27 PM
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Alaska is still like the easy part of Canada. They have trees (even if it's dark in winter).

This is very much not true of every part of Alaska. (Granted, it is true of the part I'm in and the other parts I've been to so far.)


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:29 PM
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(And I'll probably be going to the other parts at some point.)


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:30 PM
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72: I am in Auburn. What is this Institute you speak of? I can be unpleasant (for Auburn)) so I think I could troll (for Auburn)!

Good luck! But be careful: these aren't your cuddly, Beltway "Kochtopus" libertarians. These are ornery, keepers-of-the-true-flame Austrians Classical Liberals!


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:32 PM
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Oh for fuck's sake. -s


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:32 PM
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The difficult thing about invading Canada from the west is that eventually they raise their shields and put on cloaking devices.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:32 PM
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91: Yeah, but you can get pretty far before they notice.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:34 PM
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89 Think Ron Paul, but with much, much, more racism.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:35 PM
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I suspect that x. trapnel's german is actually a lot better than mine in multiple respects.

I rather doubt this. I've been watching "Doctor's Diary: Männer sind die Beste Medizin" online, but kind of hit a wall with the dialog that opens episode 4. I can generally follow Deutschlandfunk and other clearly enunciated, medium-tempo radio stuff, but I can't do either precision or speed, and my vocabulary is tiny, which makes Habermas beyond laborious.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:36 PM
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Your assumption that I can follow spoken German at all should be questioned.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:37 PM
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The difficult thing about invading Canada from the west is that eventually they raise their shields and put on cloaking devices after you take Vancouver and Victoria, you realize that everyone else lives in Toronto or Montreal, which are both far the fuck away. And you probably don't speak French.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:39 PM
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Hey now, Saskatchewan has grown enough that just last year they announced they were planning to add another area code.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:43 PM
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after you take Vancouver and Victoria, you realize that there are a bunch of huge fucking mountains between you and the rest of the country.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:49 PM
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Stanley, you're a Canadian politician all of a sudden! Alberta would be fine with you not speaking French but then it get awkward (moving east through the provinces).

(Typing on a computer is so much better)

X.Trapnel, I take it back, those people are a little too weird for me. I still remember meeting my first Republican and that was so much beyond what I was used to*.

*Funny story 1, from when I first got here: I ended up going home with this guy from the bar, friend of a friend, who lived in a trailer. Not so bad, I had friends that lived in trailers. But then it turned out that his father was one of those anti-immigrant folks and I was like, "So, that's hot/awkward what with me being foreign" and then he had religious literature in his bathroom, and THEN, when I got in to bed, it turned out he was saving himself for marriage (at 28!) but he was one of those 'everything but...' guys. And I was like, "Sucks to be you" and fell asleep.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:54 PM
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Hey! Don't make fun of Saskatchewan!


At least they're not Vancouver.

And in all seriousness, SK is doing well because they have oil (Have-not to Have province!)


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:55 PM
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Exeunt, counseled by a bear.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:56 PM
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And in all seriousness, SK is doing well because they have oil (Have-not to Have province!)

Just like North Dakota! And presumably for the same reason.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:57 PM
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I wasn't making fun of Saskatchewan. I was merely stating the facts.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 10:59 PM
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*Funny story 1, from when I first got here:

That IS a funny story. Though a bit ambiguous: the knowledge that coitus would not be forthcoming deflated your desire entirely (so to speak)? Or did the lad only reveal his teasing nature after everything-but had been performed?


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:04 PM
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OT: does anyone here know anything about Irish travelers/gypsies? If so, can you explain why a steakhouse in Beverly Hills was taken over by them? I was expecting the usual crowd of rich old guys and skanks, but instead it was way skankier skanks and young guys with incomprehensible accents. I did not know this was something that could be found in the USA. I'm a little scared.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:09 PM
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If Crossfit & Paleo haven't prepared you for this, I don't know what to say, Halford.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:19 PM
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104: It was more of a punishment. My desire was still there but I didn't (as a semi-religious person who has had issues with this) think that God really meant that 'no sex' meant 'everything but'. Bed wasn't really the site for a good ethics conversation (because I was drunk and tired).


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:19 PM
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I, of course, am of the opinion that Ethik ist bestens horizontal (und blau) gelehrt, but I'll concede the point about tiredness.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:25 PM
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105: I'm sure the Brits will be along shortly to tell you how racist you're being.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:30 PM
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But Halford, seriously: consider this practice for your cage fight against drausqd.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:30 PM
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I suppose it's not going to be surprising when I say that I have some (not really) friends who teach at Auburn. There, I said it. Is anyone surprised? There's actually a very funny story involving these people, my wife, my former dog, and their former cat. I could tell it, but it's long. And not nearly as funny as "a very funny story" would have you believe. Anyway, sad thing about those trees. Did they make it?


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:30 PM
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There's actually a very funny story involving these people, my wife, my former dog, and their former cat. I could tell it, but it's long. And not nearly as funny as "a very funny story" would have you believe.

I insist you tell this story.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:37 PM
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I won't be bullied.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:38 PM
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No, seriously, it's the sort of story that rests on knowing a lot of the relationship history. And so to tell it even slightly well would take lots and lots and lots of words. And even then, there wouldn't really be the kind of payoff that one would expect.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:39 PM
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So why did you bring it up?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:40 PM
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111: Tell it! We'll probably run into each other and it's nice to have some unspoken awkwardness. (Not really, I'm only friends with people in two departments (who really should be combined but it's okay because we get an awesome and uncondemned building) and know some stories about vet students).

The trees are present and 'alive'. An email got sent about what to do with the space so I think we're all aware of what's coming next.

105: Have you watched 'My Big Gypsy Wedding' on TLC? That's all I know about them - they're like Jersey Shore but way sluttier dressing (girls) but weirdly conservative and get married super early (both guys and girls) and then live in trailers. My friend also said that they try and scam you by saying they gave you $20 when they really gave you $10.

And bed. Thanks for talking to me when I was drinking alone! I feel like kind of less of a drunk ("I'm not drinking alone! My internet friends are here with me").



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114: I'll be up in like 10 hours so you have plenty of time to compose something interesting.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:45 PM
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Now we get to see how well VW, having brushed me off, deals with entreaties from a laydee.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 3-12 11:51 PM
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it's what 30 year old ex-Sassy readers wish that teenagers read

Wait, what? Anyone who's 30 years old today was like 12 when Sassy folded.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:14 AM
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So why did you bring it up?

I won't be bullied.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:18 AM
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Just keep telling yourself that, VW.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:24 AM
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119: That's why we love Sassy so much.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:04 AM
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the bullying will be relentless, wafer.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:52 AM
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re: 105

I don't really know what's to know here. They are travelling people, sometimes called 'gypsies' but, in fact, distinct from gypsies of Romany descent, and have their own culture and traditions. The UK government recognises them as a distinct ethnic group [although didn't always].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

The UK media has a fair bit of fairly racist material depicting them (and gypsies, and other travelling groups).

There are, in the UK at least, also Scottish Travellers (of several varieties):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Travellers

and a number of 'Romany' groups, too [Romanichal, Kale, etc]. All of which may or may not overlap.


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105 - perhaps they have made some money from those Big Fat Gypsy Wedding programmes and from Paddy being on Celebrity Big Brother, and have gone on holiday.


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Gypsies and Irish Travellers are quite well-represented in the scrap metal trading industry, so given current commodities prices, it doesn't seem that unlikely that some of them could be doing pretty well financially.


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Plus there are thousands and thousands of them living in the US.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 5:25 AM
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We're a diverse place.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 5:51 AM
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I demand more bullying. perhaps from travelers with incomprehensible accents and menacing attitudes.

also, in re: sassy, you have to remember that magazines aimed at teens are actually read by 9-13 year-olds, while actual teens just read regular nylon or vogue or whatever. my 10-year-old reads teen vogue.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:46 AM
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I recall that the Ex got close to a job at Teen Vogue before she left the metropolis. She's probably better off, lacking the hard shell that surviving Conde Nast requires, but at the time she took it badly.

Speaking of women, that girl sent me a few e-mails from her event last night. She asks what my favorite movie is and whether I am a Mac or PC person.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:54 AM
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"that girl" meaning lunchy? "a few emails" in that there are more than two? I consider those both highly positive things. I assume you are a PC person but I could be wrong. your favorite movie is: "sullivan's travels." no, wait, it's "sweet smell of success," that's more cynical.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:03 AM
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my favorite movie is bladerunner.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:04 AM
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One is a Mac person who suspects that it's a bit early to bore her with a defense of Terrence Malick.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:09 AM
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Mine is Airplane! but that might send a bad message, dating-wise.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:10 AM
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Like a happy prospector, Moby: Dance!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:12 AM
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I used to teach at Auburn.

IIRC the Mises Institute is a small pile of money controlled by a philosophy prof there and some other people. It has no physical location.


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133: I approve of your being a mac person.


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I can't help but note a significant omission there.


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127. Many Travellers are very rich; a great many more are dirt poor. Since they tend not to sink their money into real estate or work in offices downtown, their financial status isn't always obvious to outsiders.

Have a read.


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Both my kids went to Auburn, one going on through the vet school. Other than having developed more interest in football than I would ever have thought possible, they seem reasonably sane and even speak coherently most of the time.


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130: She's created a Flippanter persona in eHarmony and is filling in the forms with your answers. If eFlip gets matched with her, sex will happen. You might even get a chance to participate.


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eHarmony?! No prison can hold me!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 8:43 AM
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Comrades! Please read and discuss! There will be a mandatory quiz at our self-criticism session tomorrow afternoon.

http://rwor.org/avakian/tebow/tim_tebow_and_the_tuck_rule-en.html


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:07 AM
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Tl;dr: The ruling class has promoted Tim Tebow due to his utility in promoting a reactionary false consciousness. It is also significant (epilogue) that it was the PATRIOTS who beat him. The Patriots, see? Oh, those wily running-dog imperialists!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:16 AM
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One is a Mac person who suspects that it's a bit early to bore her with a defense of Terrence Malick.

Just really play up the Heidegger connection, that'll do the trick. Accompany the email laying out the defense with some of those photos of Heidegger and Char.


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143: And then target practice? Please? (If the head of the party is spending this much time thinking about Tebow, our oligarchs have absolutely nothing to worry about)


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:18 AM
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Molly informs me that the Mises Institute does have a physical location. My bad.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:21 AM
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It's more of a probability field.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:27 AM
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I approve of your being a mac person.

Lately, I've had an extremely difficult time with "your" vs. "you're" in precisely this case. A contracted "you are" just seems to make more sense. Or is it that one is speaking of the being belonging to the subject of the sentence? "Your being has never been the same since the human be-in." That sort of thing?


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:33 AM
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Yes, Human Be-In should have been capitalized. Alas, I fear that I'm unfit to date Flippanter.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:33 AM
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"I approve of you are being a mac person" makes more sense?

No no. You approve of the being a mac person that attaches to Flippanter: his being a mac person. Remember, ladies dig it when you use possessives with gerunds.


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The more common suggestion is "you being", rather than "you're being".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:37 AM
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151 and 152 are confusing to me, I'm afraid.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:40 AM
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I think I'd better spend a bit of time studying gerunds.


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My nonce guess is that when it's "you being", the direct object is "you" and the rest is a relative clause. At least that's the only way I can get it past my syntactic censors.


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Or rather the prepositional object.


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I have embarrassing fantasies of making a meme of Tim Tebow captioned with "INVIZIBUL THEODICY" and having it become popular.


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Try it with brackets: I approve of (your (being a Mac person)). The phrase in the outer parentheses is the object approved of; the phrase in the inner parentheses is the quality belonging to the person implicit in 'your'.


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Also! Thoughts on the new MIA?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:53 AM
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Re: Irish Travellers: my Irish-American grandmother used the word "tinker" in the name of her Irish-themed business. I had no idea it was considered a pejorative term.


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160: Was that anecdote about your dam's tinker? Was it worth it?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:09 AM
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I am way too angry at a student, for it being the beginning of the semester and the practical fact that he is in two of my classes for the next three months.

Last semester I had him in an extremely difficult class. He did well enough to barely pass, though my opinion was that he must have done outrageous amounts of memorization. Even straight memorization would have some benefit, so, pass.

Now I have him in an easy class and a medium class, and it's clear that his misunderstandings are so deep that he could not have memorized the material last semester. (like his ear for sentence construction is so poor that he couldn't have produced those memorized answers.) I am sure he cheated his ass off.

To top it off, I hate him interpersonally. He carries himself in a cocky/athletic way, sits with arms crossed, etc, and mumbles in an inaudible volume any time he is asked a direct question. Intellectually I know that is probably covering up he anxiety and fear, but good god does it rub me the wrong way.

I need to chill the fuck out so that I can actually help him understand the material over the next two months. Also I think he's super lazy, because he fails quizzes that are based on merely taking factual notes on some reading material. I need to chill the fuck out. Advice?


Posted by: Presidential | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:21 AM
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You could try using humor to break through the tough-guy façade. I find that posture so incredibly off-putting that it makes every other aspect of teaching difficult. But even tough guys like to joke around.

How big is the class.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:29 AM
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Both small. Easy class has seven, medium class has 12.


Posted by: Presidential | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:31 AM
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He carries himself in a cocky/athletic way, sits with arms crossed, etc, and mumbles in an inaudible volume any time he is asked a direct question.

Sounds like he's scared shitless of something, but I can understand why it's getting to you. Thing is, you probably won't be able to form a useful working relationship with him unless you have some understanding of why he's so frightened, and what of. Is there any way you can work this through? I'm not suggesting you need to be a father/mother to him, but he's not going to learn anything if he's consumed with worry all his waking hours.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:34 AM
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I think that's probably true. My guess would be the (grounded) fear that he is in way over his head, and will not be able to graduate any time soon, and can't afford to take extra semesters. I know he wants to graduate this semester. He transferred in last semester. I can't see him graduating, and he probably hates working on the material since it's wrapped up in so much stress.


Posted by: Presidential | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:39 AM
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He is in so over his head that when I think about offering him the amount of office hours necessary to catch him up, I want to run screaming in the opposite direction.


Posted by: Presidential | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:44 AM
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Remember, you only have to meet them halfway. They are adults responsible for their own education and emotional balance.

Set a small goal for yourself, like not letting your frustration with him cause you to be harsher with him than with other students. Let him worry about his graduation plans, at least for now, and focus on being fair.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:49 AM
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The easy class is the introductory course for majors to take as sophomores. He's at the bottom of that class, but it's a gentle enough class that I think he is capable of passing it.

Should I have a blunt conversation with him and say that graduating this semester is probably impossible? And that he should drop the medium class so that it doesnt sabotage the time he needs to invest in the easy class? Our school is not cheap and he's probably been in school for a while.


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159: I keep thinking that in order to listen to MIA I should have an opinion about Tamil nationalism. I know I don't really have to, but that's always what I end up thinking about.


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168 is good.


Posted by: Presidential. | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:52 AM
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I'd also add that there's nothing wrong with liking some students and disliking others. It doesn't make you a bad person or a bad teacher. You do need to be fair, but you don't need to put in more effort with one student out of guilt.


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145: She at least Wikipedia'd Malick. I'm not going to push it.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:09 PM
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I followed the link to Texts from Bennett a while back; I have not fully recovered.


Posted by: Econolicious for four more years | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:13 PM
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145: And those photos are awesome. Something the dark of the forest something the light of earth mumble.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:15 PM
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I'm not mocking the photos!

I have remembered the good explanation: I followed a link to Rookie from Feminist Ryan Gosling. You might think, now a new explanation is required for my presence at FRG. Well, perhaps.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:19 PM
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No one is judging you, neb.

Except me.

And Jesus, of course.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:24 PM
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Feminist Ryan Gosling needs no explanation.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:25 PM
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The appeal of Ryan Gosling eludes me. I remember when chicks girls women? ladies were wild about tiny little Colin Farrell, who at least had the advantage of a pleasant accent, but Gosling just seems callow.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:35 PM
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They are fooled by the name into thinking that he is adorable.

Plus, when he's older he'll be serviceable both for pillows and for dinner.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:40 PM
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Hmm. Well, I suggested a museum date next week, and she said "Yes!" with a list of museums and a day. Also a few days when, I think, she won't be available for work reasons.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:51 PM
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177: No one is judging you, neb.

I am judging your apparent need to explain the provenance of your knowledge of the things you know of the world. Harshly and unremittingly. But you evidently don't care about that--nor should you.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:56 PM
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Mostly perceptually.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 12:58 PM
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Is it sick that I find the link in 25 kind of sexy?


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My semi-serious relationship advice Flip is that you plan to not inform the blog about your next 2-3 encounters in this relationship. I know this will disappoint Tweety, heebie et al the voyeur brigade, but so be it.


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Should I have a blunt conversation with him and say that graduating this semester is probably impossible? And that he should drop the medium class so that it doesnt sabotage the time he needs to invest in the easy class? Our school is not cheap and he's probably been in school for a while.

If you would give this advice to someone you like then I would give it to him. If it's good advice it's an act of caring -- people have to be pragmatic.



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Stormcrow is banned.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:07 PM
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I want it to last long enough to where we get the really good stuff.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:18 PM
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188: Like cute baby pictures. No pressure, Flippanter.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:21 PM
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Comrades! Please read and discuss! There will be a mandatory quiz at our self-criticism session tomorrow afternoon.

He really does make that 2001 "tuck rule" thing sound sketchy. Still, I'm sure he just hates Tom Brady for being such a wholesome, all-American boy.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:22 PM
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189: Don't jinx me. I'm doing my best.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:23 PM
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This is gonna go just like Swingers and Lunchy is Heather Graham!


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Hypothetically, because I trust the hypothetical judgment of the mineshaft, if the goal were to just make the day go the fuck away in a pleasant fog, what are the best choices among the following options: codeine, xanax, lunesta, trazadone, beer, wine, a standard array of hard liquor.

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Posted by: Rosalynn Carter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:28 PM
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This is gonna go just like SwingersBoogie Nights and Lunchy is Heather Graham!


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:32 PM
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193: Facebook.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:33 PM
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Both my parents went to Auburn.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:34 PM
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Is physical pain involved? If so, then codeine. Otherwise I'd go with Lunesta for sleeping through it, Xanax for being awake and not giving a damn.


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193: A tab of Xanax washed down with a bloody mary. Especially if you don't take Xanax much.


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Rosalyn: I suggest selecting one of your softer options and then combining it with trashy entertainment--TV, saying mean things about people online, a long bath, porn--whatever suites your tastes. Your soma holiday should be a comprehensive vacation from reality, not just drug driven.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:40 PM
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Umm, Xanax and liquor sound like a really bad combo.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:43 PM
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196 to 193.


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200: don't go on a drinking binge. But I have seen many people combine a xanax and a shot (or alcohol equivalent) with no apparent dangerous effects.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 1:48 PM
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She has dark hair.

Rosalyn, what about a glass of wine and a hot bath?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:01 PM
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193 sounds like a good party.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:05 PM
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Rosalynn, take anything said here in good faith with a pinch of salt. Because different drugs have radically different effects on different people and different conditions. If you're in pain, try codeine which is pretty broad spectrum, but it may not work; if alcohol looks good, go with beer or wine, as you can calibrate it more easily than spirits.

Probably you should think about seeing a doctor on Monday.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:09 PM
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205: Nah. Doctors just want to solve everything with drugs.

Xanax is probably the right bet, and most consistent with use as prescribed. Wine and a hot bath is still in the running, though.

Thanks all.


Posted by: Rosalynn Carter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:14 PM
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Xanax, wine and a hot bath sounds delightful. The "never mix" people are very well-meaning. Benzos and booze do have a synergistic interaction that can make you extremely sleepy, and one could obviously imagine situations where extremely sleepy plus in the bath could be problematic, but the combo has always been a good time for me. So.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:17 PM
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Of course, my drug of choice is the Playstation 3. In Arkham City you can visit the alley where Batman's parents were murdered and the game prompts you to press a button to kneel and pay your respects! Then you can go cripple some more supervillain henchpeople. Jesus.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:20 PM
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Xanax and saying mean things about people the internet might be a fun combination, too.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:21 PM
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207: I do consider you an authority on such questions.


Posted by: Rosalynn Carter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:22 PM
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For me the most effective would be a stack of competently done trashy fiction and a bottle of wine.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:25 PM
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Helpy-Chalk dresses funny!


Posted by: Rosalynn Carter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:33 PM
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I tried to nicely hit at that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:35 PM
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You know who dresses funny?

Evil parallel universe Communist Tim Tebow.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 2:35 PM
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Hint, not hit. Violence doesn't improve clothing.


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Violence doesn't improve clothing.

Mind's eye immediately conjures Fred Astaire, who used to dance around the fitting room at Anderson & Sheppard during fittings, replaces him with Chuck Norris, choreographs elaborate roundhouse-kicking dance number.


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I am not Rosalynn, but the fact that wine and a hot bath sounded so good it made me start crying tells me it should be on my agenda too. I think I want helpy-chalk to be my life planner.


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Just saw Red Tails with Newt. I was charmed to recognize Bubbles, who I hadn't been expecting, as the gruff but lovable mechanic. Also, when will fighter pilots learn not to put pictures of their sweethearts in the cockpit with them? There is no surer route to, like Rene, going down in flames.

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Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:04 PM
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All right, Halford, time for an update. Don't leave us hanging, like urple with the plumbing.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:05 PM
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An update about what? Travelers? Copyright law? How many kipping pull-ups he can do in a minute?


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The notion of using benzos for a pleasant haze seems strange to me. Ativan will calm me down somewhat if I'm very stressed, and might make me slightly sleepy, but nothing remotely resembling intoxication of any sort.


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I don't think kipping pull-ups count, typed the man who congratulates himself in public whenever he can do eight "real" pull-ups in a row.


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218: Or losing a nuke in the desert.


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Also, when will fighter pilots learn not to put pictures of their sweethearts in the cockpit with them? There is no surer route to, like Rene, going down in flames.

And never say anything that could be interpreted as a reference to a gal waitin' for you at home.


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I feel required to admit that, having spent the fall and winter not working out at all, I can no longer do any pullups. I peaked at four, never got the fifth, and am now back working my way up to one. Feh.


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Pull-ups are hard.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:20 PM
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220: an update on the way skankier skanks and young guys with incomprehensible accents, surely.


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I don't think kipping pull-ups count, typed the man who congratulates himself in public whenever he can do eight "real" pull-ups in a row.

A friend directed me to an article last night claiming that kipping pull-ups are actually a better workout overall.


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Also, apparently that's the kind of pull-up crossfit people do.


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220: Yes! (Also, he was in an unusual situation, then disappeared.)

P.S. I could never do very many pull-ups, either. I like to pretend it's because of my long(ish) arms. Laydeez.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:26 PM
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Crossfit seems like a scam.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:29 PM
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then disappeared

Are the skankier skanks or the incomprehensible accents to blame?


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231: And artists could find some way to be compensated for their work without any kind of IP protection. Which has no historical basis, anyway.

There. If that doesn't draw him, he is in trouble.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:32 PM
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Artists need to be compensated in grain only.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:34 PM
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There's no such thing as "intellectual property"! Cave people ate mostly quinoa and asparagus! Young people use curse words!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 3:40 PM
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The back of the cave must have smelled funny.


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232: Unlikely, in both cases! Still, they're interesting.

231, 233-5: I like your style.


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The notion of using benzos for a pleasant haze seems strange to me. Ativan will calm me down somewhat if I'm very stressed, and might make me slightly sleepy, but nothing remotely resembling intoxication of any sort.

YMMV, and all. But, for some of us, calmed down is really very pleasant indeed.


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Also, when will fighter pilots learn not to put pictures of their sweethearts in the cockpit with them?

I've mentioned this before but, if you appreciate honest, cinematic, pilot melodrama, it's worth watching the opening scene from A Matter Of Life and Death (and, do me a favor, if you do click the link, expand it to full screen and give it your attention) -- A Powell/Pressburger film, David Niven plays the doomed pilot brilliantly.

It's a cliche now, and it probably was even then, but the script for the scene is brilliant. As he's facing death he talking in almost a steam of consciousness (to a female American radio operator played by Kim Hunter). He quotes bits of poetry remembered from school which come to mind, he tells her to send a telegram to his mother, "Tell her I love her. You'll have to write the rest. . . ."

At some point he's indulging in a bit of flirtatiousness and has two good lines which he delivers well. First, he's asked her if she's seeing anybody and then, quickly, says, "no, don't tell me." Then, a couple seconds later he says, "I love you June. You're life, and I'm leaving it." He manages to make the second line just tossed-off so that rather than feeling like an attempt at a mock-heroic style it feels like the epitome of perfect, educated, Britishness (the rest of the movie is not nearly as good as that scene, but it is very much about the complementary strengths of British and American cultures).


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A Matter of Life and Death is great, and not just that scene, if you ask me. If you like that theme--reconsideration of one's life after death, that is, not fighter-pilot melodrama--you might also like Ernst Lubitsch's Heaven Can Wait, one of my personal faves.


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239: Recently put that on the DVR from TCM. I shall look. Thanks.


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A Matter of Life and Death is great, and not just that scene, if you ask me.

Oh yes, the entire movie is fun and good (which, based on my limited sample size, is true of all Powell/Pressburger movies) just not as magnificently good as that scene.

reconsideration of one's life after death

To be picky, I'm not sure that's a good description of the movie either -- since, as it turns out, none of the characters who die do reconsider their lives. I'll stand by my comment that it combines predictable (but well executed) personal drama with a affection for and tribute to British and American cultures. Certainly the final trial scene fits that description, but I'm thinking too of the scene where the British airman is waiting in the foyer of heaven and sees the group of GIs come in, joking, and walk over to the Coke machine -- it's affection not satire.


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I am not one for baths but am presently enjoying the heck out of a bottle of Chimay Rouge and an open fire. My place has the extremely rare combination of a sixth floor apartment in this very low rise city together with a proper fireplace.


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241, 242: If you haven't seen the Powell/Pressburger Tales of Hoffman, put it on your queue.


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Oops, sorry.
Where did everyone go, anyway? I mean it's 1 am here so I should be asleep, what's your excuse?


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:04 PM
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Where did everyone go, anyway? I mean it's 1 am here so I should be asleep, what's your excuse?

It's Saturday night, yo. (At least in most of the US. The sun is still up here.)


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:08 PM
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It's Saturday night, yo.
This doesn't answer the question.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:14 PM
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It's 5pm on a Saturday here in Lalaland and I'm about to get ready for a hot date with a Manic Pixie Dream Girl on the Sunset Strip.

On second thought, no, I'd rather watch TV instead. On third thought, root canal work sounds better than spending any time with a MPDG.


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That comment delayed by me staring at the "w" in answer and wondering what it's doing there.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:15 PM
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On third thought, root canal work sounds better than spending any time with a MPDG.
Liar.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:16 PM
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Oh yeah. Some people have a social life. I spent this week pretty bad with pain so made no plans for tonight. In fact I was reasonably good today so I got loads of stuff done. Might have overdone the housework but things were horrible.


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Eh, making plans for a Saturday night just because you're supposed to is ... overrated. Too much pressure.

181: Well, I suggested a museum date next week, and she said "Yes!" with a list of museums and a day.

I'm finding this stressful. I mean, museum date is excellent, definitely, but this is sounding all appointment-y and assignment-y. I understand it's only the third date, and maybe New Yorkers just are that way, but shouldn't there be room for just hanging out?

Right, in fairness, I've done that myself: museum? Sure, I think this show here and that show there would be interesting, so what do you think about one of those? But. I was once (warmly and affectionately) chuckled at for seemingly trying to plan everything out. Nerves, is what it was.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:30 PM
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Our best museum has dinosaurs. There are couples walking around whenever we go and we go often because of a membership and a five-year-old. I can't imagine why I would ever go except to distract a child.


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251: Okay, would you believe more than 30 minutes? I've known several MPDGs, they are very tiring after a short time.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:40 PM
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You're saying that you don't live in a place where museums have things you want to go to?


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256 to 254, but could work for 255.


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Our best museum has dinosaurs. There are couples walking around whenever we go and we go often because of a membership and a five-year-old. I can't imagine why I would ever go except to distract a child.

That's a great museum. I spent way more time there than I was intending to, but it was totally worth it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:43 PM
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But then I really like museums.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:44 PM
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Our best museum has dinosaurs.

Are you counting the natural history museum and the art museum as separate museums? It's a very good art museum!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:44 PM
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I've seen the Mona Lisa so I'm done with museums.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:45 PM
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That's a great museum. I spent way more time there than I was intending to, but it was totally worth it.

It is! Both halves.


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261 works great to 260 even though that wasn't the original intention.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:46 PM
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I mostly focused on the natural history side. If I ever go back I'll check out more of the art side.

I'd like to go back to Pittsburgh some day and spend some more time. There's way more stuff there and in the surrounding area that I would like to see than I had time for during my one brief visit.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:47 PM
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255: It's possible I was projecting.


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262: The third half is a library with free wifi, so that's were I usually go.

264: You could follow George Washington's path.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 6:54 PM
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The fourth half is a lecture hall where I once heard a guy talk for two hours about his idea for how to curate a special art exhibition. I was told it would be a brief talk followed by a reception. That was the last time I ever went to a lecture that I wasn't required to attend.


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I'm finding this stressful. I mean, museum date is excellent, definitely, but this is sounding all appointment-y and assignment-y. I understand it's only the third date, and maybe New Yorkers just are that way, but shouldn't there be room for just hanging out?

That comes *after* the sex.


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Actually, I rather like museums. I acknowledge, though, that I rarely go to them by myself: apparently I value dialogue. And Moby, you have no idea how hot the dialogue can be!


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268: Too stressful. I say Flip and Lunchy should go sailing, or just go to a Sunday afternoon flea market or some such. Maybe a book sale. Maybe a farmer's market, if they have those in New York City. Followed by brunch! I guess a museum is fine too, of course, but jeepers, man, I feel like people are consulting their smartphone calendars every six hours, and it's making me tense.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:17 PM
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Go sailing, in NYC, in February. On what boat?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:19 PM
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The boat with all the cold people.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:20 PM
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My first date with French ex was to a museum exhibit on relics. We spent a great deal of time looking at decorated skulls and beautifully arranged bones. It was a good first date, actually.

I was recently at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, and their dinosaur exhibit was terrifying. Animatronic sculptures aren't usually scary, but these had been trained to track your movements. The lighting was dim, and the dinosaurs were very loud. My sister the biologist said that the panic and desire to flee were how you knew your atavistic instincts were still functioning properly.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:24 PM
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Maybe a farmer's market

An opportunity for Flip to smoothly invite her over to see what he can make of all those ingredients they picked up?
But I don't see why a museum isn't a good idea. She is apparently into art, and it's a good opportunity to hang out for an extended time while allowing for both plenty of non-awkward pauses and conversational hooks.
[yes we have farmer's markets, dozens and dozens of them]


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:25 PM
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Oh, true. Sorry about that. It was the spirit of the thing I was after, as I'm sure you can imagine.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:26 PM
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What if Flip and Lunchy like museums? And structure?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:27 PM
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274: Yes, museum is a great idea. (I was teasing about the farmer's markets.)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:28 PM
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[yes we have farmer's markets, dozens and dozens of them]

And at this time of year, it's rutabagas, beets, potatoes, and chard as far as the eye can reach.


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240: I actually found Heaven Can Wait (1943) rather creepy. I think I saw the 1978 version a long time ago, but I can't really remember it.

Cabin In The Sky is pretty amazing. You know a film's got something going on when there are two different disclaimers at the beginning.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:31 PM
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They have all the staples of Polish peasant cooking.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:31 PM
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I once got laid because of a museum date. I idly commented on a horse painting (not great art but very horsey), "imagine having all that rippling muscle between your thighs". Later she said "that made me look at you in a whole new way".


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What if Flip and Lunchy like post-structuralism? What kind of "date" should they go on then? Something ironic and recursive, probably.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:33 PM
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279: The 1978 Heaven Can Wait took its title from that movie, but its plot from Here Comes Mr. Jordan.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:33 PM
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"imagine having all that rippling muscle between your thighs"

You imagine that so I don't have to go to the gym.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:34 PM
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Rutabagas, beets, potatoes and chard are all good, though.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:36 PM
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281 made me laugh. There can indeed be very informative (good/helpful) museum dates. It's undeniable.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:37 PM
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I like both museums and structure... laydeez.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:37 PM
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Rutabagas, beets, potatoes and chard are all good, though.

For a while. I may lack the discipline necessary to eat seasonally and locally.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:38 PM
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Rutabagas, beets, potatoes and chard,
Elijah Muhammad and Wallace D. Fard,
Polish cooking is full of surprises,
The Fruit of Islam wear matching bow tieses!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:39 PM
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I like both museums and structure

Then you'd love the National Building Museum!


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289 is great.


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282 is like a spike in my brain: Oh jeez, well basically they will already know what kind of date to go on.


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Unlike a farmers' market, the Met would accommodate an evening date, to the extent one is called for at this stage, as it is open until 9 pm on Fridays and Saturdays. (Plus it has a very good Renaissance portrait show on at the moment.)


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Evening date, evening date! But Lunchy has a calendar and schedule. Sigh.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:46 PM
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Then you'd love the National Building Museum!

I'm sure I would! I've never been there, but it seems like my kind of place.


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Ooh, I want to go to that show at the Met. I should try to schedule an upcoming trip to NJ so I can do that. Except that right now the thought of scheduling any more trips makes me want to scream. Except that I'm too tired to scream.


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Did you manage to see Falling Water?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:48 PM
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Michelangelo's David is a Renaissance piece, but Flip should definitely still wear pants on the museum date.


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Rutabagas, beets, potatoes and chard are all good, though.

This time of year (around here) beets tend to be woody and bitter. I do like them earlier in the year.


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297 to 295.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:49 PM
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The National Building Museum must be huge.


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301: It's actually housed inside a larger museum, dedicated to the curation of building museums from around the country. It's called the National Building Museum Museum, of course.


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294: Maybe they *like* calendars and schedules. Everyone can't be like us and yearn for a few hours at the machine gun range in Las Vegas.

http://thegunstorelasvegas.com/


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I hope Flippanter made a case for Badlands back in 173, because honestly, nothing seals the deal like letting your swain imagine going on a multi-state killing spree with President Bartlet.


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294: I'm all for free and spontaneous; it's nice. But sometimes people have calendars and schedules because they don't have any other option. Just trying to plan to hang out with my friend (also a single mom) has us currently looking three weeks out.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 7:54 PM
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I like both museums and structure

You might also enjoy the NYC Transit Museum--or perhaps you have already been there. To my shame, I have not yet been there. But next time I have a daytime date opportunity, I will suggest it!


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306: My son and I went to the LAFD museum. Looking at the evolution of the gear was more interesting than I thought it would be, it's very different in 3D and actual size vs pictures in books or on the net.


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306: There's also the Skyscraper Museum, though I can't vouch for its quality. I have visited the Transit Museum several times with the boy and recommend it.


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I've been to the Met a few times during their late hours by myself. The first couple of times it wasn't intentional. The first time I was avoiding the fighting couple I was staying with for as long as I could.

The second time I ended up in a minorly embarrassing situation when I left. I'd had my backpack with me and I checked it when I arrived in the early afternoon. At that time, the cloakroom was very humdrum, routine check in check out of bags, full of people casually dressed, tourists, etc. In the evening, aside from me, it was pretty much all couples, dressed up, retrieving coats only, and every single one of the men - it was always the men in the line around me - tipped the people getting the coats. I had literally no cash on me. I'd emptied my wallet (which wasn't very full in the first place) to pay the "suggested donation" when I arrived. I sheepishly took my backpack and slinked away.

After that, I didn't take a bag with me if I planned to stay late at the Met.


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297: Did you manage to see Falling Water?

I realize this was directed to teo, and I'd be interested to hear his thoughts if he did see it.

I found Falling Water unsettling in various ways. This wouldn't be an original thought -- but the ceilings are quite low. I have no idea whether cleanup has proceeded in a satisfactory manner since I visited (some 10 or so years ago), but some of the pools were troublingly algae-ridden, and the sense of the horizontal/stagnant overwhelmed the vertical. Things were lying prone rather than rushing or soaring. If that makes sense.

It was still quite beautiful, and I wouldn't go so far as to say that it was claustrophobic, but a person felt the need to ask herself why she might register this rather than the other.


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Did you manage to see Falling Water?

I did! It was quite impressive, although on balance I think it's probably a good thing that we no longer let people build houses on top of waterfalls.

I haven't been to the Transit Museum, although I've heard good things about it. I really should have made more of an effort to get into NYC and see things back when I was so close.


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When I went to the London Tube museum (or whatever it's official name is) a few years ago they had some exhibits set up with life-size models. In one of the sets, there was a guy in a tunnel, covered in what appeared to be grime, who turned out to be real. He'd stand very still and then when people stopped to look at the exhibit scene, he'd suddenly engage them in conversation. It was surprising, but hilarious and informative.


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I found the toilet facing the window to be creepy but the low ceilings didn't bother me much. It did smell funny in a couple of places.


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313 to 310, 311.


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I found Falling Water unsettling in various ways. This wouldn't be an original thought -- but the ceilings are quite low. I have no idea whether cleanup has proceeded in a satisfactory manner since I visited (some 10 or so years ago), but some of the pools were troublingly algae-ridden, and the sense of the horizontal/stagnant overwhelmed the vertical. Things were lying prone rather than rushing or soaring. If that makes sense.

It sounds like they've cleaned it up quite a bit if that was the case then, but this is sort of an inherent problem with the combination of "build on top of a waterfall" and Wright's design philosophy. The low ceilings and small bedrooms (by today's standards) in his houses are notorious, and they create significant preservation challenges for the ones that are in upscale suburbs where people no longer want to live in houses like that. That isn't an issue for Fallingwater, of course, now that it's a tourist attraction, but the environmental conditions create their own preservation challenges.


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I was also there a long time ago. Maybe 2005.


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I *love* museum dates. One of the best first dates of my life was at a museum.

I've also had several middling-to-mediocre first dates at museums, which for my money is way less stress-inducing than a bad dinner date. There's stuff to look at and talk about, there's only so many corridors you can wander down, and when it's over --- hey, at least you got to see a museum.

To be honest, that's part of why I like more structured early dates too. Just hanging out, IME, really only works well if you are both coming from a similar set of expectations about courtesy and comfort.

Otherwise, you're stuck trying to guess whether the other person really means it when they say they are fine walking two miles in the cold, or really aren't hungry yet, or really aren't getting sunburned, or whatever. Exhausting if both parties aren't coming from the same flavor of Ask/Guess culture.

(The original MetaFilter comment.)


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Bah, my first link didn't work. Ask/Guess culture.


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279: That was my initial reaction, too, but I rewatched it a couple weeks later and totally changed my tune. It didn't hurt that by that time I had seen a number of other Lubitsch movies that I enjoyed--Trouble in Paradise, Design for Living, The Shop around the Corner. I bet you'd like Design for Living in particular, Natilo.


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some of the pools were troublingly algae-ridden

My mother claims that a friend was for a while caretaker at Falling Water and suffered from indoors mosquitoes. (I'm sure I've said this on Unfogged before.) Anyways, I love Frank Lloyd Wright, but dude, unpreventable indoor mosquitoes are a serious design flaw.


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I like 274. Farmer's market followed by cooking some stuff at someone's house. Especially showing up to the market with an interesting recipe in mind. It's structured enough to keep you having something to do, and it's physical enough to allow for some early-stage corporeal getting-to-know-you. It's early enough in the day to not be high pressure, but close enough to a couch if some stream builds up.

If you feel it's too early on to go over someone's house, then listen to that, of course. But if you'd like to do it, there's no reason a third date is too early to ask.

Farmer's market's not a bad place to pick up live lobsters.


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320: That was built back when DDT was a breakfast cereal coating.


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315: Yes. Understood about the preservation problems, and about Wright's approach to space in the first place.

I remain interested in our relatively newfound love affair with large(r) interior spaces. When I've happened to live in homes with higher ceilings, I confess I love it. I certainly don't need cathedral ceilings -- they're refreshing in many ways -- I can't make out why or how contemporary persons would or should feel physically cramped in a smaller setting. I want to make some vague sounds about feng shui. Airflow. But that doesn't really make any sense.


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if some stream builds up

That came out much better than I planned.


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317: you're stuck trying to guess whether the other person really means it

IMX it's never good to play that game. Take them at their word and find out what's real and what isn't at the beginning. That "Read my mind and I'll be pissed if you get it wrong" game is a slow and painful death to a relationship.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 8:35 PM
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317: I've also had several middling-to-mediocre first dates at museums, which for my money is way less stress-inducing than a bad dinner date.

Yep. Flip is technically not on a first date. But let me be clear! I have no objection to museums! For dates or any other wise.


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325: Yes, absolutely -- that's why I specified first/early dates. Even if you're never going to see the person again (because, for instance, they refuse to express a preference) you still have to get through that date.


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319: Shamefully, I have seen Heaven Can Wait, alone among the films of Lubitsch. Design for Living does sound good, although the Wikipedia entry makes it sound like everyone at the time thought it was a pale shadow of the Broadway show.

Speaking of plays-become-films, before seeing the poster for the film and reading up on it last night, I had never heard of The Woman In Black, despite its being the second-longest running play in the West End, after The Mousetrap. Good thing I checked it out before it came up at one of the many snooty cocktail parties I attend with the theater set.

Saw Chronicle today. It was quite good, I thought, and they packed a lot of plot into 83 minutes. It would be interesting to see a version without the CGI, that focused more on the psychological drama.

323: I don't get the appeal of cathedral and/or vaulted ceilings. High ceilings are fine.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 8:50 PM
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I've always been a Wright fan, but (a) he wasn't as original as his cult of fans like to suggest, and (b) per Paolo Soleri, he sounds like he was quite an asshole, personally, not just in a "don't question the great artiste" way either.


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(c) Pushing the design envelope is all well and good, but it might have been wise to experiment a little bit more before inflicting some of those wacky materials choices on people.


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It's hard to disagree with 329 and 330. Fallingwater is fascinating in its way; it's memorable. I think being on top of a waterfall is always fascinating, though.


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Being able to pee into a waterfall and being able to pee in your living room are both great individually. Combining them is really just gravy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:08 PM
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You really have a way of killing the mood, Moby.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:11 PM
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One Hour With You is my favorite Lubitsch, or at least astonished me as much as any pre-code movie. Sheer joy.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:13 PM
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333: The waterfall is more private and spacious than most of the bathrooms.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:15 PM
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You really have a way of killing the mood enhancing the blog, Moby.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:15 PM
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But it's a waterfall! A natural, gorgeous, waterfall far greater than any piddling! Pshaw. Moby just isn't awed by anything at all. He even kills bugs and rodents.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:19 PM
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Take it back. OHWY is terrific, but Rouben Mamoulian's Love Me Tonight is even better. Anyway, Jeanette MacDonald was sexy paired with Chevalier. Myrna Loy, Charles Ruggles, C Aubrey Smith. Rodgers and Hart with everything sung. Art Deco. Total fun.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:24 PM
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Enhancing the blog and killing the mood are hardly mutually exclusive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:24 PM
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I think Fallingwater is a flat-out great work of art. I didn't used to think that but then I visited it. It's a really profound combination of the American longing to find a home in nature and to improve/overwhelm/conquer nature, somehow strikes a perfect aesthetic balance between those incompatible desires. (Not necessarily a perfect lifestyle balance if you had to deal with the practicalities of living there, but that's another question). One of the greatest works of architecture I've ever seen. Like all great architecture, you have to actually go there to judge it.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 9:55 PM
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Going back to Rosalynn's question, it's not a haze, but some nice simply done lamb, accompanied by a Barbera and B-W era Ellington, followed by more Barbera plus trashy SFF and a couple POrgy & Bess via Miles tunes, followed by more Barbera and just listening to Mingus do Porkpie Hat and the What Love off the Antibes album with Dolphy = contented calm.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:04 PM
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193: xanax, tradazone, and coke & bourbon. I mean, coca-cola. you guys thought I was going to say all of them, didn't you? the mere facts that rosalynn has been able to hang onto these drugs all this time (from different scrips) and doesn't have her own strong opinion, indicates she probably has a low tolerance. also, codeine makes me nauseous, and I ain't the only one. I would take it to stave off the pangs of withdrawal but not otherwise. in the past.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:08 PM
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338: Both added to the queue. Thanks, bob.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 02- 4-12 10:51 PM
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Moby and Parsi should probably take a waltz around the quad to The Holygram's Song.

(This might be more y'all's taste. But just for completeness, there's this one, the sweetest of all, ending up in Glacier -- why do people rag on Cimono: the thing's a goddam triumph.)


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Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 12:08 AM
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I am inordinately pleased at being a linkee in 151.2.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 12:14 AM
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A friend directed me to an article last night claiming that kipping pull-ups are actually a better workout overall.

Tell your friend he's going to be puny forever reading that nonsense. For example,

However, if you're not a bodybuilding competitor and NOT injured to the point of being unable to do kipping pullups, then it's probably for your own good to sophisticate your movement quality since aging is the process of losing complexity.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 12:33 AM
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I have maybe 12/13-foot ceilings upstairs and 10-ft downstairs, just like at my grandma's in savannah. it's traditional in hot climates so the hot air can escape through vents near the ceiling. I love it, it makes me feel at home, since I loved her place so much.

I've realized recently that the house I'm building in indonesia has 5m ceilings at the very center. fuck me, that's tall. I'm not complaining or anything, but it's evidence of how much my "build a 3-bedroom cottage first and get the lay of the land, and then build some primo shit later" plan has failed due to my having commissioned a goddamn royal palace built out of teak. I realize some people have real problems. #1stworldproblemsinthe3rdworld

this is the opposite of my getting para-typhoid fever in narnia, which was 3rdworldproblemsinthe1stworld


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 2:46 AM
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342: Codeine (opiates in general) makes me nauseous. But the formulation combined with promethezine fixes that. Can't say anything in the list in 193 has ever really done it for me, except the xanax which, god bless it, does exactly what it is supposed to do. I have the Lunesta and trazadone for insomnia and have concluded they don't do shit. Took Lunesta the past two nights and managed a whopping 5 hours each. I am so fucking tired, to the point I am starting to lose my shit.

Oversharing, I know. See? That's why they use sleep deprivation to make people confess.


Posted by: Rosalynn Carter | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 4:53 AM
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re: higher ceilings

The canonical Glasgow tenement usually has high ceilings, and bay windows. For something with a reputation earlier in the century as slum housing, they are really lovely buildings to live in. I do miss the vertical space living down south.


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349: sleep deprivation is real. I've gotten two nights out of the past three of basically sleeping though the night (7ish hours) after way too long of up to 25 wakeups and it's making me realize the extent to which I can't function or be a decent person without sufficient sleep. It makes everything hurt. And I can't medicate any of it away because I need to be able to hear what wakes me up. It's awful. (And Lee can't/won't pick up slack, so that's not an option. She sleeps hard and doesn't hear them and can't see in the dark, plus sometimes Alex, who's the main offender, insists on me and ends up screaming more if she goes in. And I wake up anyway if she's getting out of bed, so it wouldn't save me time. Not sure why this parenthetical is even here except to say I'm not blaming her and I know this will be over soon and I need it to be because I'm a mess.)

Rosalynn, any chance today can be like yesterday blur/relaxationwise?


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 5:56 AM
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Lots of chores to do, but must can probably be done in a blur... I hope you can catch up on your sleep soon!


Posted by: Rosalynn Carter | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 6:25 AM
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If 348.1 is a first world problem I'm pretty sure all the rest of us here are plugging along valorously in the third world.

My moon laser is malfunctioning #1stworldproblems
The colonial subjects are restive of late #1stworldproblems
I can't for the life of me get good miniature giraffes out of these cut-rate black hat molecular geneticists #1stworldproblems


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 9:39 AM
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Museums are lovely places to stroll and chat about something other than where one works or went to school, you philistines. A farmer's market in February? Seriously?

I don't particularly like Badlands. Sissy Spacek irritates me.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 9:44 AM
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Wait, you like Malick but not Badlands? That's boldly staking your own turf.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 9:46 AM
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I think the Flip-Pater came close to buying a house very near Frank Lloyd Wright's Theodore Baird house in Amherst several years ago. The almost-bought place was lovely in itself, with lots of hilly land and even a stream, but needed too much expensive work for the asking price.


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355: Spacek and Sheen the Elder are not my favorite thespians. Even Richard Gere offers a more convincing performance of spirit in Days of Heaven.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 9:57 AM
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356: So he made a low offer, right?


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Also, have I somehow given the impression that my aesthetic preferences are orthodox?*

* He typed, hurriedly closing his iPhoto collection of images of Jean Seberg.


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358: Yes, and there were some counteroffers and counter-counteroffers, but it all came to naught. It was the owners' main asset for retirement. Too bad. I loved that place.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 10:06 AM
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Are you fucking around with something in the other thread, neb?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 10:43 AM
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I wish I were fucking around with something.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 10:43 AM
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neb has found himself a place to fuck around with comments in the Stupor Bowl thread after all.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 12:11 PM
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Rookie's comments thread certainly reads like it's full of teenage girls.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 12:12 PM
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The colonial subjects are restive of late #1stworldproblems

❤ this.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 12:16 PM
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364: I remember teenaged girls, when I was a teenaged boy, being extremely terrifying. What happened to the species in the several-millennia interim?


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340:

There's a spot downstream from Fallingwater from which it looks marvellous, the perfect example of overwhelming, conquering nature. Any other architect would have build at that spot, providing a view of the falls from the house. Wright built over the falls, so that the perfect view is of his creation.

I can't imagine living in Fallingwater, though. It's dated. It's built for servants, but modern servants wouldn't accept the servants quarters. (There must have been awkwardness when one of the family met a servant carrying a load of bedding in those narrow passageways; Wright was perfectly capable of separating servants and family -- he did so in the Hyde Park house that the University now owns that I can't remember the name of -- but didn't here.) And, of course, it nearly fell down.


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367: Robie House. (Which is awesome, low ceilings and all.)


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 1:37 PM
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Is there a great deal of content in the Wright literature about the selection of names like "Fallingwater" and "Taliesin"? I've wondered about it.


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modern servants wouldn't accept the servants quarters

What do modern servants accept? I suppose alameida could tell us.

I used to be able to look out my window across the street and see Robie House. It was being renovated the whole time, though, so I never went inside.


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A farmer's market in February? Seriously?

I keep forgetting that some people still live in the barren wastelands of the icy North.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 3:41 PM
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I realize it's gauche to ask this, but did anybody watch the video linked in 239?

I remember teenaged girls, when I was a teenaged boy, being extremely terrifying. What happened to the species in the several-millennia interim?

It is possible they would still be terrifying if you were heavily invested in their liking you.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 3:44 PM
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Apples! squash! sprouts! leeks! mushrooms! Brussels sprouts! pears! cauliflower!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 3:44 PM
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I went to Taliesin West and was a little bit creeped out on the tour when I learned that Wright insisted that his students take etiquette lessons.


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220:

The travelers were not visibly violent, but took over 3/4 of a very fancy BH restaurant. Apparently they only eat very well done meat, only pay in cash, and come into town every few months. It was fun watching the bafflement of the old rich dudes and their mates who made up most of the remaining 1/4.

220.2: fuck yeah. 220.3: I'm not sure, my shoulder flexibility has been ass recently.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 10:48 PM
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130: She asks what my favorite movie is and whether I am a Mac or PC person.

This got me thinking what would be the most auto-cockblocking movie possible to respond with? So far I have Willard or Looking for Mr. Goodbar.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02- 5-12 11:33 PM
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my favorite movie is bladerunner.

I'm kind of depressed to realize I just don't have a favorite movie. I enjoy watching lots of movies with my kids - including Airplane! - but I just can't think of any that I could say I love. I went to Hangover and Avatar to have an excuse to go out with the guys, but nah. I just don't see movies I relate to personally right now. Not sure if it's me or movies.

But this is really not true with books - I have lots of recent and older favorites clamoring in my head right now! I think if I faced this question in dating, I really would feel like Lenny with his stinky books trying to date a sexy young college grad who'd majored in image with a minor in self esteem.


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One for all the lawyers out there.

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Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 4:39 AM
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Hmmm, now why would nosflow be thinking about Kipling pull ups?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 6:00 AM
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377 ha elements of the "humblebrag".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 7:18 AM
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now why would nosflow be thinking about Kipling pull ups?

I do all my pushups and pullups "white man's burden" style with a pygmy on my back for extra resistance.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 7:21 AM
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Mom! gswift is reifying the self-serving metaphors of racist imperialism!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 7:32 AM
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Damn iPhone.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 7:35 AM
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I'm well aware of gswift's shortcomings, son.


Posted by: Your Mom | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 7:52 AM
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You spelled "neb's" incorrectly, ma'am.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02- 6-12 8:38 AM
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I'm aware of many men's shortcomings.


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re 380

My bad, humility was not intended.


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