Re: Let's make this official etiquette

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This is not aimed at anyone in particular.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:01 PM
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The fact that my name is Yobolgon Hoglbreu should be perfectly evident from my pseud, Heebert.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:05 PM
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because our real names are just gibberish

Why must you remind me of this painful fact?


Posted by: Prjfpzyhrx Q. Zp5ethxiq | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:05 PM
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Yobolgon ...?! Can it really be you? After all these years?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:06 PM
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Will do in future. I wish they had left the feature that made it easy to include a note in your request. (I hardly ever use messages on Facebook.)


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:07 PM
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* CRIES *


Posted by: OPINIONATED JOEY JOE JOE JUNIOR SHABADOO | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:08 PM
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I just started FB messaging people to reconfirm their unfogged identities, but then I realized that I might be sending messages to people who aren't unfogged people and I just don't remember how I met them irl.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:10 PM
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5: It was easy to match your name and pseud. On the other hand, I couldn't even begin to figure out how to pronounce your name.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:12 PM
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5: That used to be the case, and I think you are still prompted to do so occasionally, for people who aren't closely connected to you.

Of course, everyone knows who I am.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:13 PM
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Have I mentioned to you guys that my name seems to have been colonized by a professional dominatrix? To my knowledge, there's only one person with my name (me). There is also a Facebook account for that name. The pictures are of a seductive lady in a trenchcoat, seated on a chair, with a whip at her side. Her friends all have stripper names.

So far as I can tell, she's making better use of my Facebook account than I would, so I'm pleased with the situation. She hasn't answered my boyfriend's Friend request, though, which makes him sad.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:15 PM
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I'm the Ferdydurke Pequenakonck who uses a golden retriever as his facebook photo.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:15 PM
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Damnation; I just sent a friend request someone (okay, emir) without having looked at this post. Sorry!

Semi-relatedly, I used to have a livejournal account where the tags for my posts were the six gifts of womanhood, since the presence or absence of each pretty well defined everything going on in my life.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:17 PM
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How hard is it to remember? Jesus.


Posted by: Opinionated John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:18 PM
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APPARENTLY MORE DIFFICULT THAN YOU'D THINK.


Posted by: OPINIONATED JOHN JACOB JINGLEHEIMER SCHMIDT | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:19 PM
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Or was that joke implicit in the original? I can never tell.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:20 PM
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I'm Tom.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:21 PM
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Is it paranoid of me not to put a pronunciation here? Maybe not, considering the employer demands on that other post. I originally had a three letter pseud "emr" until the appeal for slightly less forgettable handles and I set up an email account to go with it. I really really don't want employers etc. to connect me with my comments here. I learned my lesson from all those Usenet posts that still show up. (Nothing bad there but ramblings from over a decade ago aren't what I want to be known first ... why does my phone keep wanting to change that to "ram lungs"?)


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:23 PM
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Wait, is it really Schmidt? I don't seem to remember childhood exceptionally well.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:23 PM
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17: If he's a facebook friend, you can send him the pronunciation there.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:25 PM
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Apo has already narrowed it down to either "Aoife" or "Niamh".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:25 PM
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Old ram lungs are nasty.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:25 PM
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19: great minds, etc. I would just have posted it, but do I want all my cousins etc to wonder why I'm suddenly friends with a bunch of people who've never heard my name spoken? Definitely overthinking it.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:31 PM
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Put up one of these.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:33 PM
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Please tell me I'm not the only person who didn't figure out that that was emir. I tried checking the relevant wall, but everything there was written in gibberish.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:38 PM
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The FB friend-finding algorithm is totally screwed up. For some reason all I get is a list of M. Leblanc's friends, all of whom share only one friend (M. Leblanc) with me. What the hell is up with that?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:40 PM
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I recognized that disarming giant, that ardent wag, at once.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:42 PM
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Hmm, I generally have a policy of not associating my pseud(s) with real names except in e-mail, where I pretty much always include my real first name. You know "Fakey."


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:44 PM
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Also, person who most recently friended me: We were at 2 of the same demos!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:48 PM
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27: Is that at odds with this post?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:49 PM
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Thirdly, for people who are still friends with my old, old pseudonymous FB identity, rest assured that I will be deleting that soon. I know I've been saying that forever, but I really mean it this time.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:49 PM
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Facebook message ≠ email.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:49 PM
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Oh, well, then this policy would appear to prevent you from friending people who seem to have all the right friends in common with you, if you don't already know who they are, or even if you know who they are but don't have an email address for them.

Message them and say "Email me at [this address] and I'll reveal that I'm Fake Accent."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:52 PM
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Time spent here is time well spent.

In response to The_Quiet_Earth's question about time-traveling marines, Erwin started typing. He posted his answer in a series of comments in the thread. Within an hour, he was an online celebrity. Within three hours, a film producer had reached out to him. Within two weeks, he was offered a deal to write a movie based on his Reddit comments. Within two months, he had taken a leave from his job to become a full-time Hollywood screenwriter.
While James Erwin was doing his best to keep the mob happy, a man in Beverly Hills named Adam Kolbrenner happened to be scanning Reddit. [...] All it took to convince him of Erwin's ability was the very first post--that first 350 words. "He can handle character and storytelling," Kolbrenner says, "very, very difficult things to just be able to do." Plus, he adds, "it got such an incredible response. I knew it was something special, because it wasn't like he took three months to do this. This was quick quick quick, and it was all good."

Didn't Knecht post a treatment for a legal thriller in comments a couple years ago? Maybe we should bump that up to the front page.

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Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:53 PM
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Message them and say "Email me at [this address] and I'll reveal that I'm Fake Accent."

Sending this message would constitute the revelation already, no? If the message comes from FA's real name.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:55 PM
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29: No, and wasn't really directed at the post. It was more an explanation of why the couple of times I've gotten a message asking who I am I haven't said. Back when I had a profile pic that actually was of me, I was apparently racially profiled to determine my identity. But now I'm a person of mystery.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:55 PM
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I tried to do this using Facebook on the iPhone. And it was confusing. I may have for one, but not for the other.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:56 PM
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33: I read some of that awhile ago, just after it first got big. Seemed like warmed-over SM Stirling to me. Not that that's bad, just that I could name a dozen minor SF novelists who can write circles around that. With 'character' AND 'storytelling'.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:56 PM
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I am not actually on a friending spree.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:57 PM
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24; is it not you whose children's names are in the self-same language? Anyway, just look at the nice pictures of Connemara.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:58 PM
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Sending this message would constitute the revelation already, no? If the message comes from FA's real name.

First you plagiarize Matt Groening, and now Standpipe?!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 1:58 PM
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39: I figured out where you were, silly. I just, um, am stupid. And I think I was unclear about your gender, though I vaguely recall that that was made clear at some point on this very blog.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:07 PM
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Skimming the Wired piece, it seems like it would be more interesting if they traveled in time rather than in both space and time so they would start out in what is now Afghanistan and then end up invading the Roman Empire. Maybe as the unintentional result of just trying to go towards western Europe in the hope of making contact with the US bases there.

Where's my contract?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:08 PM
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Okay, I think I zapped everyone from here off my old, old FB account. So if you aren't friends with me on my new one, friend me now.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:11 PM
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Hm, was I actually unaware of emir's suspiciously colonial heritage or have I just forgotten that I knew it because what did I come in here for, anyway?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:15 PM
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43: I don't actually know your name, friend.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:16 PM
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Crap. I just got a friend request, and so I accepted, from someone who I have no mutual friends with. Someone here?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:25 PM
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7 is hilarious.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:30 PM
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Me, I think. I tried to message.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:31 PM
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46: If by ''here" you mean "In the crawlspace under your house," sure.


Posted by: New Friend | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:31 PM
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24: Not alone, friend.

I didn't really try with the name, frankly. I just thought, who else is Irish there? And drew a blank.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:33 PM
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There are a lot of spiders down here.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:33 PM
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49: It's actually a really spacious crawlspace, but you might want to invest in one of those radios that lets you know when there's a flooding alert.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:38 PM
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43: FB suggests you to me more than any other person. So here I go!


Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:40 PM
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oh hai. How come we don't have mutual friends? And I just wasn't expecting you to live there.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:40 PM
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Natty, I really think this person isn't you, and that I haven't gotten your friend request yet.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:43 PM
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is it not you whose children's names are in the self-same language?

Like Americans of ethnic heritage actually know the languages of the ethnicities they claim.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:43 PM
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56: I only know a few words of emirspeak, but my dad and one of his brothers are fluent. They learned as adults, though.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:45 PM
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Oh, for pete's sake. 46 is signed by "New Friend" and I read it too hurriedly as "Natilo Minnepotato".

And now I see 51.

I thought it was you, because I hunted and saw an email address. Then got confused. But now I'm clear! Except on why we don't have any mutual friends.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:46 PM
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44: that's good, because sometimes I worry that I comment in too much in the form, "well, in Ireland, such-and-such happens". But, you know, I don't throw in references to Bosco or "roll it there, Collette" or anything.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:49 PM
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There is someone I'm facebook friends with from Occupy Maine who "Likes" everything he posts to facebook. It seems somehow shabby, like laughing at your own jokes.


Posted by: Light Rail Tycoon | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:51 PM
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If you're on a friending spree on FB, you should send a message to the person saying who you are on Unfogged. And then the other person should respond with who they are.

What if the other person isn't on Unfogged? Also, given the previous post, what if the friending spreer is someone's boss?



Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:53 PM
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Sorry, no exceptions.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:55 PM
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This thread is so self-indulgent. Yet convenient!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:58 PM
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60: I do that with the stuff I post for work. It is shabby, but then if it weren't for shabby, I wouldn't have any genteel at all.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 2:59 PM
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63: JRoth -- I just noticed your job title is misspelled on FB. Might want to fix it if you use it professionally.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:02 PM
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54: I've only lived there fairly recently. For most of my Unfogged tenure I was in the Maryland countryside.

We dont' have any mutual friends because I didn't have any Unfogged facebook friends yet, but I knew your name because I googled you a while back after you made some temporary pseudonym slip that was begging to be googled. Sorry, but I'm nosy like that.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:04 PM
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Computer/information boffins: Is there some generally accepted level of foldering [e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\Attila The Hun\Conquests\Asia Minor\Bactria\June\Sacking and Pillaging\Booty\Gold\Jewelry\Necklaces etc. etc.] where it is better just to start a new higher level folder rather than make more and more subfolders? There has to be, right? I mean, you couldn't remember more than a few dozen subfolders unless you had some kind of hyper-memory.
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Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:06 PM
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Why do you need to remember them?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:07 PM
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ACK!!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:08 PM
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You're mixing nodes from three different hierarchies (time, space, and type) within one flat namespace, which is a mistake.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:12 PM
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I'm so tempted to respond normatively to 67, but of course the question isn't about my personal view.

Once of my favorite things about running my own firm is having absolute control over file directory conventions.

Well, that and the hott midday sex (AB also works from home, you see).


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:12 PM
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70 is what I was thinking! But I actually don't know how you'd resolve that in a traditional hierarchy.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:15 PM
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Throw it all in the same directory and search by keyword. Folders are for suckers. Just make sure you name it appropriately.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:20 PM
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Well-organized folders are a true delight.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:23 PM
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67: If your file paths go longer than 256 characters, things start to break.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:26 PM
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The correct answer is to build a meaningful and well-structured directory hierarchy, then name every file using a schema that replicates the information encoded in the directory structure.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:28 PM
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PMEST


Posted by: RANGANATHAN | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:28 PM
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Isnt the appropriate etiquette to include "Who wants to sex Mutumbo?" in your message or, alternatively, to include a picture of Heebie's butt?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:31 PM
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I can't remember the full name of anyone except for one person so I'm waiting for her to accept my request so I can track down everyone else.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:44 PM
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I'm telling you, that's not me. That's a dominatrix who somehow used my name. She doesn't respond to my real friends.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:47 PM
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She won't be at a computer for another couple of hours, SP.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:48 PM
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How do you hook up with the unfogged facebookers. All I have on my facebook are boring relatives.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:49 PM
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Do you read her facebook requests?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:50 PM
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I'm telling you, that's not me. That's a dominatrix who somehow used my name.

You know, your name's not that uncommon. It certainly possible that you share it with the dominatrix. It's also possible, though perhaps less probable, that the dominatrix actually is you and these comments are an elaborate attempt to keep us from finding out.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:51 PM
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Now, if a dominatrix were using my name, that would really be something...


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:51 PM
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Has heebie figured out yet that she does actually know Natilo's name?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:52 PM
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Nothing could possibly go wrong with this big de-pseudifying social media mashup love fest.


Posted by: Man Suit | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:53 PM
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And I promise my FB password is more secure than my Yahoo one.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:54 PM
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My vote is that Megan is a dominatrix. Environment. Law. Rubarb.

All the signs are there.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:54 PM
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How do you hook up with the unfogged facebookers.

"Love is a very special thing between two or more people, and they show it in very special ways..."


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:54 PM
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87 is right. I'm unfriending Blume.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:56 PM
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Nothing could possibly go wrong with this big de-pseudifying social media mashup love fest.

I was assuming everyone here is tenured. No?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:56 PM
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I can't wait to check Facebook when I get home from work to see what madness has come of all this.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:56 PM
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88 is only funny if you know that SP is actually a Russian spammer who lied about his yahoo mail getting hacked in order to spread malware links to the Boston unfoggetariat.

FACT.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:57 PM
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I don't think anyone else has my name, first and last. If someone else does, I'm delighted she is a dominatrix. She is certainly representing us better on Facebook than I would. But I'm a little surprised that someone would occupy the name of a real person, instead of just making one up. (And my name isn't especially titillating or anything.)


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:57 PM
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tenured s/b tonsured


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:57 PM
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SP, is 83 to me?


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:59 PM
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Speaking of Facebook, I found this incredible gem posted there today.


Posted by: Bonsaisue | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 3:59 PM
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It's to me. He hired me to develop a custom trojan to install spyware on her computer so he could steal your rhubarb pie recipe. But it backfired horribly because now he doesn't get to have any unfogged facebook friends as I've created a diversion so she won't see his request until it's too late.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:00 PM
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I figured it was to you.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:02 PM
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In related news, I am at the Met if anyone wants to come up and ostentatiously thank me for saving a whole bunch of baby animals from Newt Gingrich or something.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:06 PM
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Flippanter:

Would you please provide us with your lady friend's facebook information?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:14 PM
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The correct answer is to build a meaningful and well-structured directory hierarchy, then name every file using a schema that replicates the information encoded in the directory structure.

This is how I name my mp3s.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:17 PM
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Couldn't you just name them The correct answer for short?


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:25 PM
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I think I know what that kind of filenaming would look like, but I'm not actually sure.

Sometimes I run into the 256 character limit because of the way a program does automatic re-naming. I don't find out there's a problem until I try to copy files somewhere else.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:28 PM
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In Soviet Russia, Internet spams you!


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:39 PM
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Now I'm wondering who the person friended by six of you over the course of the day might be.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:43 PM
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107: That's bob.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:57 PM
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He's such a maverick.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 4:59 PM
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ONLY SIX? YOU NEED TO RESPOND TO MY INVITES YOU L FOR LOSERS TO THE MAX


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 5:01 PM
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98 is fantastic


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 5:04 PM
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111: Though it seems like that would hurt.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 5:42 PM
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I think I've got the setting so no one, not even you folks, can see who my friends are. Would anyone like to check and tell me? (I changed it today -- so if someone was able to cruise my friend list this morning, that doesn't answer the question).


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 6:08 PM
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113: You can verify this yourself by using 'view as public' (or 'view as user'). It's... uh, somewhere in the godawful mess of options.


Posted by: Man Suit | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 6:14 PM
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I'm guessing that people who added me know who I am. Mainly because my blog is linked on my profile. Also rhyming, and Heebie calls me by my real name all the time on here. Anyway, I'm excused from the part of the etiquette where I have to respond to messages with an announcement about my own pseud, right?


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 6:34 PM
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I think I've got the setting so no one, not even you folks, can see who my friends are. Would anyone like to check and tell me?

All I can see are our mutual friends.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 6:43 PM
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113: I can only see our mutual friends now.


Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 6:46 PM
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I know SP's real first name, but I don't think I know his last name. Uhh.


Posted by: Bosoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 6:57 PM
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I just sent a request to essear, since he lives in Boston, but the thing won't let me message him. Friend me or not, but I tried!


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:01 PM
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I just friended a bunch of people with a bunch of common Mineshaft friends. We'll see how that works out.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:10 PM
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116, 117 -- Thanks. That seems adequate. I don't worry about most of the people -- certainly not my right wing relations -- but I don't want to be the vehicle by which Mineshaft pseuds are blown. (Any more than I already have been.) I leave to you all whether this ought to be a standard of etiquette.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:23 PM
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The worst part about this gold rush is that I barely use my facebook account at all. Sorry everyone. I think there's a cute picture of my kid there somewhere.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:27 PM
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I don't want to be the vehicle by which Mineshaft pseuds are blown. (Any more than I already have been.) I leave to you all whether this ought to be a standard of etiquette.

I would think that any Mineshafter who goes around friending others on Facebook is not overly concerned about keeping their pseudonymity intact.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:28 PM
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I'm quite ambivalent about all this friending on the grounds of clubbiness and of having enough to keep up with over here. On the other hand, just under half of my FB friends are from Unfogged because I have a policy of friending only people whose posts and comments are genuinely interesting or entertaining, which renders a lot of non-Mineshaft humanity ineligible. (Damn, I think I fail my own test. How embarrassing.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:28 PM
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123: Ha--you think I use my real name there, either?


Posted by: Man Suit | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:32 PM
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Interesting use of "either" in 125.


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125: That is of course another option, used by at least one commenter that I know of.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:33 PM
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126: Of course I meant to say 'neither'.


Posted by: Man Suit | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:35 PM
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I use Man Suit's real name on facebook. It's a little weird, yeah, but fun, right?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:36 PM
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Sorry, Yobolgon. I'm terrible at this kind of thing.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:37 PM
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129: It's a trend, clearly (cf., 10). Hope the dominatrix business is more profitable for you than, uh, whatever it is I do for a living.


Posted by: Man Suit | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:38 PM
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Data analytics for Estonian mobsters, Yobolgon. It's time people knew.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 7:49 PM
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Huh. The Estonian mafia turns out to be something different than I expected.


Posted by: Man Suit | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 8:33 PM
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73: Folders are for suckers.

Chopper has this absolutely right. People can do whatever they want with their private folder structures, but exposing them in public shows a lack of discretion that would make me not trust them around confidential information.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 9:58 PM
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98: That video prompted me to read up on "Lady Godiva" since I realized I only knew of the story at the vaguest folk legend level (pre-Internet). The surprising thing I learned was the story's association with the origins of "Peeping Tom".


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The surprising thing I learned was the story's association with the origins of "Peeping Tom".

Huh, I thought that was common knowledge.

Having now watched the video in 98, my main thought is that Stanley's looking pretty fit these days.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 10:37 PM
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So is Thundersnow!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 10:42 PM
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Well, that goes without saying.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 10:44 PM
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Per 136.1, I sometimes require explicit explicitness.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 10:46 PM
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Speaking as one of the lurkertariat, I found this thread perfectly charming. It's like everyone has spring fever, and has gone slightly mad.


Posted by: Flora Poste | Link to this comment | 03-20-12 11:24 PM
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Ah, it's the sukebind.

Talking of pseuds, I always read Man Suit as Man Skin, from a story in a very old book of horror stories - the Pan 6th Book of Horror Stories I think - that my dad once read to us. The one with a rat on a skull on the cover. I fell asleep reading it one night and woke up with the rat on my face.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 12:24 AM
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re: foldering

There are performance reasons for not chucking everything in a single folder, even if you are driving everything from metadata/IDs, especially if you are dealing with the sort of volumes of files I do.

We use this for some of our systems:

http://anonym.to/?https://wiki.ucop.edu/display/Curation/PairTree


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 12:51 AM
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The link in 142 is sort of the converse of the approach in 76.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 1:04 AM
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So: the youth section of the Commonwealth Club: harder core drinkers than I would have thought! I mean, we're not talking 8 hour meet up here, but still!, procedural liberals can still drink.


Posted by: Trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 1:13 AM
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On the negative side of the ledger, my proposal that a future debate be on the abolition of patents met with rejection on the grounds of excessive legalism. pathetic!


Posted by: Trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 1:16 AM
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141: Hmm, that seems like an impractical thing to have on a book, with the difficulty of storage, need for regular feedings, and limited lifespan.


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141: That seems like an impractical thing to put on a book, making storage difficult, limiting the cover's effective life, and requiring regular feedings.

But it also sounds awesome.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 5:56 AM
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OK, that one was not my fault. I hit "post," got back a message saying I couldn't make a comment, reloaded the page, saw that my comment hadn't posted, and wrote a new one...


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 5:57 AM
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Ok, stupid question, but is the profile you see for yourself when you click on your name the same as what friends see? For example, I always see friends with posts about playing Words, which I also do using my FB account, but I never see that coming up in my own profile- is that because it's really not posting to my account or just hiding it from me?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 6:06 AM
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So, the backstory to my folder question is that I am solely, 100% in charge of organizing the information in the office -- paper files too. Most of the people who might be trying to use this information in the event of my absence are less computer literate than I am. Furthermore, due to a massive hardware failure last year, and various transportation of computer files over the course of the last 10 years or so, I've already got a bunch of totally redundant folders clogging things up and making it hard to find anything, except for the things I've created myself in the last year. I suppose the ideal would be to go through every file, open it, and determine precisely which folder it should go in, but obviously I have better things to do with my time. So I guess what I'm looking for is guidance about just how much sorting I have to do to make File X optimally findable, without recourse to a search function, given that any search that is not for some very, very specific word or string is going to return dozens of hits of irrelevant legacy files.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:13 AM
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This inspired me. I think I might try an Unfogged friending spree on FB tonight. We'll see how many of you people you folk I can actually find given the few FB friends I already have and real names I already know here.

As for file organization, good luck with that. All I can think of is, maybe you can reorganize by eliminating some of those higher-level folders (e.g. "Attila The Hun\Conquests" in your 67 example)? I think my computer at home isn't organized too badly overall, but there's one set of folders that goes something like "C:\Documents and Settings\Temp from old computer\My Documents\Salvaged from old computer\Fiction\Other stuff". Some files there probably go back eight years and three computers; when I replaced my previous machines I kept files I wanted to salvage from it in one place and figured I'd deal with them later and haven't got around to it yet, even to the point of nesting one computer's "salvage" inside the next.

I have no idea if you have the same problem, but since you mention hardware failure and transportation of files, the possibility occurred to me. If you do, then maybe you can combine the "Accounting Computer Salvage\Documents and Settings" with the "Legal Computer Salvage\Documents and Settings" folder or something. Or at least simplify the folder names.

Also, how often do people actually use these things? It also reminds me of my job, where we have a lot of people working off a shared server. A ton of folders created according to template but never actually used, intermediate versions of documents that were published years ago, etc. But that mess is not actually a problem because it's not like document files take up that much memory and everyone just follows links to their own project folders. So if your office is in a similar situation, then I don't see why you can't sort it file by file when you have a free hour here and there.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 12:22 PM
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I kinda assume that everybody knows my real name because I've never made any effort to be discreet about it, but I suppose that's not a fail-safe assumption. You can track me down at facebook dot com slash russ dot barnes. I play a lot of Scrabble.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 12:31 PM
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"44: that's good, because sometimes I worry that I comment in too much in the form, "well, in Ireland, such-and-such happens". But, you know, I don't throw in references to Bosco or "roll it there, Collette" or anything."

God, I know I do that too much. I'd forgotten you were Irish tho, I only remembered you were some non-standard variety of foreign.


Posted by: David The Unfogged Commenter | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 12:40 PM
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some non-standard variety of foreign

WHAT AM I chopped Fërgesë tirane?


Posted by: OPINIONATED KING ZOG | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 2:32 PM
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I'm thinking of buying some art.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 5:42 PM
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In light of all the social media crossover activity, I'm thinking of changing my pseud to "indiscretion error."


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 6:16 PM
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156: I think I've forgotten your real name. I could maybe dig it out if I thought hard enough. I'm not sure I ever heard more than your first name, though.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 6:43 PM
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I think McManlyPants and helpy-chalk have been occupying the same mental space for me all these years.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:00 PM
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It was one of the top 10 names for my birth year.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:01 PM
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159->158


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:02 PM
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158: Ah, yes. The "first three letters" heuristic. I have a similar same problem.

Theoretically it should be able to accommodate up to 26^3=17,576 names, but unfortunately:

1) Limiting the options to pronounceable combinations or the beginnings of otherwise meaningful strings reduces the sample space by quite a lot

2) The birthday problem - the probability of duplicates is higher than you'd think.

I tend to conflate these groupings:
* Stanley and Standpipe Bridgeplate
* rob helpy-chalk, Robust McManlypants, and Robert Halford (though I'm getting better about these three)

For some reason I also confuse:

* Di Kotimy, DonaQuixote (probably I also sometimes mistakenly attribute their attributes to Thorn)
* DS, Disingenuous Bastard, Lord Castock, and sometimes but not always dsquared (occasionally I misremember that the S in DS stands for "Squared")
* urple and Brock
* ajay, chris y, and Ginger Yellow


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:14 PM
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While "similar same" problem was unintentional, it is not strictly speaking meaningless - it is a similar problem with respect to sames.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:15 PM
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161.last: some of those are pretty darn excusable.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:16 PM
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163: Which are least excusable?


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:18 PM
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I don't think you'd be "confusing" DS and Lord Castock, Benquo, since we are both the same poster. ("Lord Castock" is just an anagram of the old pseud that I shorted to "DS," but the original abbreviation happened so long ago that most people don't remember its beginnings as "Doctor Slack." All super-confusing to a greater degree than I realized when I was making the switch.)


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:21 PM
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I'm not sure Di Kotimy and donaquixote would be wholly pleased to be conflated, but none of them bothers me at all.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:21 PM
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(Although maybe you meant you were confusing both those pseuds with Disingenuous Bastard and dsquared; if so just ignore 165.)


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:24 PM
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166: At least now I can tell that Oudemia is different - I had some trouble with that for a while.

Was Di the one with the rant about French men all being assholes?


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When I had a two letter pseud, people apparently mixed it up more often than I was aware of. Also, people had problems guessing gender.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:25 PM
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167: I did throw in some that I knew were the same (Cf. urple and Brock), but DS links you with Disingenuous Bastard and dsquared, and when I see "Lord Castock" I think "DS", so they're kind of all jumbled up together.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:28 PM
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I also confuse redfoxtailshrub's abbreviated name (assuming that's what people mean by RTFS) with RTFA.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:29 PM
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I also find it difficult to tell whether I've just seen a movie starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman or Jack Black.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:34 PM
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Bit weirded out by those. It's interesting what different people take away from reading someone, though.

I feel like I can learn as much about people's personalities from five or ten of their comments as from spending 20 minutes with them.


Posted by: David The Unfogged Commenter | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:36 PM
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Adressed to 161 etc.


Posted by: David The Unfogged Commenter | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:37 PM
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161: dq and I are both gay ladies who've complained about our paramours at considerable length, while Di and I are both somewhat neurotic mothers of awesome daughters, so I can see being a source of confusion there. It was dq and not Di K who left after a Strauss-Kahn conversatioI somehow missed.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 7:42 PM
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175: Thanks for your kind explanation of my confusion.

I have the same problem with fiction.

I can usually tell apart people I've met in person, so if I ever make it to a meetup that will help.


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I also confuse redfoxtailshrub's abbreviated name

I thought we also used to call her fishbasket, but my cursory search of TFA suggests only I ever did that. And now I don't remember why.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 8:05 PM
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177: Here you go.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 8:09 PM
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Hey, how 'bout that.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 03-21-12 8:14 PM
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I miss McManlyPants.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 12:17 AM
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re: 180

Yes, what happened to him? Was there some thread blow-up or something?


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 12:47 AM
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For some reason I also confuse:

This is why I make sure to be repetitive, or drunk, or repetitively drunk, with all my comments.


Posted by: Trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 2:08 AM
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I'm not sure Di Kotimy and donaquixote would be wholly pleased to be conflated

Really? At least from this end, I find nothing offensive or upsetting or other-than-flattering about such a conflation.


Posted by: di kotimy | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 4:09 AM
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Hott!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 4:38 AM
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181: Not everyone is driven off from Omelas the blog, some merely walk away.


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180, 181: Not that I'm aware. I think just busy. Searching that other site for mcmanlypants would prove fruitful, if you miss him.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 4:53 AM
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When I leave the blog I want to be driven off in a 3½ litre Bentley coupé de ville, painted British racing green.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 5:02 AM
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Oh, wait. He's not Douchenozzle Mcmanlypants on Facebook, if searching lands you there.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 5:16 AM
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182: Oh, are you the same person as x.trapnel?


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re: 187

There used to be a vintage Bentley continental that used to park in front of Blackwells. I used to get serious car envy.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 6:53 AM
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180: I've been thinking that myself and kept wondering whether I should ask apostropher about him or if that would violate the sanctity of off-blog communication. NCProsecutor too.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 6:57 AM
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NCProsecutor is no longer a prosecutor, but is now a legal guy here at the biostatistical cube ranch (though he's in the office-with-a-door caste, rather than down here with us garbage-pickers). He has an infant and a toddler now, so he's a very busy man.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 7:18 AM
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I knew he had a kid, but did not know that he had 2. Yes, busy.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 7:22 AM
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McManlyPants has a blog where he's mentioned that he's started exercising and being healthy and that kind of thing, and I think Unfogged might have been shed along with a spare tire. Unfortunately; I miss him too.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 7:24 AM
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he's started exercising and being healthy

Yeah, he quit smoking and dropped a bunch of weight. He looks entirely different (manly and fabulous, natch) now.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 7:30 AM
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Word, peeps. Yes, I say "word" even though a co-worker recently informed me that, and I quote, "whitewashed Ebonics does [me] no favors."

No blow-up! No drama! I got a different job that didn't allow for the same time investment and I kept showing up to threads with 600 comments already and feeling defeated by my inability to digest them. It's that simple. I love y'all and miss y'all, though, every single one of you, except for that one troll whose name I can't remember but he's always going on about teacher's unions or some shit.

Anyway, I'm also in grad school now and trying to do this thing where I take my really awful writing more seriously and I'm on the grad board for two chapters of my fraternity and between all of that, well, commenting just doesn't fit in these new shoes. I added Unfogged to my Google Reader roll and I catch all the front page stuff but miss 99% of comment threads (I do make sure to read some of them when I have time, long after the fact, even though short half-lives are the nature of the internet beast).

But hey, I lost a hundred pounds last year; my parents broke down and met Rah and now my dad just loves him and my mother is polite and we all have a much nicer time of it even though I'm pretty sure they're going to vote for Amendment One because their slow slide into fundamentalism continues apace; it turns out I really enjoy running and biking and there are about seven million miles of trails around my part of town; I really love this job in a major way unlike any other job I've ever had before even though it means I may never get another raise again and even though I feel financially squeezed all the time; I got mugged while out walking last year so now I jog with an enormous baseball bat and no one talks to me and I like it better that way; I still write for Pink Kryptonite when I can (as Klarion); I sometimes do the tweets as @KlarionPK and @mcmanlypants; and when someone calls me out then I hear about it and greatly appreciate it.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 8:06 AM
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Man, that all sounds awesome. If not commenting here means that's how your life is going, I hate to say this, but I'm glad you're not commenting.

(If you do have a doldrummy period, of course, we'd love to see you back.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 8:09 AM
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I jog with an enormous baseball bat

IYKWIM.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 8:13 AM
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AITTYD!

Of course, I'm also happy to be Facebook friends with anybody but my name (Michae/ Wi//iams) is so generic as to make me hard to find. I recommend you check other Unfoggeders to see if I'm friends with them and locate me that way. I used a pseud originally because I like handles as a concept and my name is just so thoroughly self-obfuscating. Well, not entirely, or I wouldn't have obfuscated it there, but anyway.

LB, if I find myself with some free time (which will become more likely this summer, when I don't have classes) then I will definitely put in some time at Unfogged.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 8:54 AM
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Mr. McManlyPants, I am thrilled that you took 7 Soldiers Klarion (bum bum bum) the Witch Boy and thus demand that you comment more even if not in his style so I can imagine he's the one talking.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 11:37 AM
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Yeah that sounds awesome, mcmanly. Sorry about the financial squeeze bit.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 5:34 PM
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Also, the mugging sounds a bit annoying. But good to hear McManly is doing well.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03-22-12 5:35 PM
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WB, RMMP. Also, I don't think I'd ever heard of that Pink Kryptonite blog before, but I like it.


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165: Holy shit, I had no idea! I was always wishing Slack would come back. Yet here you were, all along. I feel just like Dorothy (especially with the resurfacing of McManly).


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