That's even more damning the summaries of the summaries that I've read.
It's truly, truly outrageous! Truly: truly, truly outrageous (outrageous)!
How in the hell does Katehi still have a job?
How in the hell does Katehi still have a job?
That's what I was wondering while reading the links.
Chancellor Katehi, on her part, "thought she made it clear" that when police ordered the students to leave, they were (a) not to wear riot gear into the camp, (b) not to carry weapons of any kind into the camp, (c) were not to use force of any kind against the students, and (d) were not to make any arrests.
Surely this has to be an outright lie. I mean come on, use of force is a defining characteristic of a police force. If force isn't on the table then go down there and ask the kids to disperse yourself.
and for another, it couldn't be legally done, because there was no way to legally arrest someone for "overnight camping" in the middle of the afternoon...when she gave the order to Lieutenant Pike, he very definitely did raise the same objections, clearly and unambiguously, backed up by multiple witnesses, who all agree that Chief Spicuzza told him, "This was decided above my level, do it anyway."
Idiots. If you thought the Chancellor was telling you to do something illegal than you tell her to go fuck herself.
Yeah, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the stories the investigators were told were riddled with lies and idiocy. In some cases, it sounds like the idiocy itself was probably a lie, on the calculation that this would be less likely to lead to discipline than telling a non-idiocy-laden truth.
(Not that I've read the actual report.)
4: Possibly because the report just came out?
Yeah, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the stories the investigators were told were riddled with lies and idiocy.
Definitely. From the summary it sounds like the important bit of report is entirely based on people's recollections. Were there contemporary documents? Emails? Minutes of meetings?
Also, every page of the report is marked "CONFIDENTIAL - DO NOT DISTRIBUTE".
That Hicks fellow sure looks a lot like Brother Ali, except apparently he's a cuckold.
Reading the part about Pike and the pepper spray made me slightly queasy. I'm going to go back to not thinking about this again.
Only 11 comments worth of outrage.
Proof that unfogged is objectively pro- pepper spraying students. For shame.
So, I was wondering, apropos of that Dartmouth article, which mentioned the frat boys tearing down shantytowns (the ones erected to protest S. African apartheid) in the 1980s -- was there ever a similar police riot on campus, or even serious administrative intervention, against those over-night campers? Also the vogue for mock homeless encampments in the 1990s, what about that? Why, other than the obvious reason of a societal rightward shift and the increasing militarization of police forces, should this type of encampment be so much scarier?
Proof that unfogged is objectively pro- pepper spraying students.
Lot of academics here. They've all probably had the urge to pepper spray a student at one time or another.
Tangentially: Someone on my facebook feed wants me to be outraged by something Ted Nugent said. This strikes me as being similar to being outraged by something said by the late Ol' Dirty Bastard, or maybe a mentally ill homeless person. I definitely find it easier to be outraged by things said by Kanye West or maybe Courtney Love.
NMM to Dick Clark. How will we ring in the New Year if we cannot cry, cry, masturbate, sing "Auld Lang Syne", cry?
13: Further from Kent State, closer to 9-11. Back in the '80s, an administrator looking at a shantytown was thinking two (maybe three) things: (1) this is nothing, scale-wise, compared to the big demonstrations in the 60s and 70s, so there's nothing to be worried about; (2) administrators who overreacted to demonstrations in the past were assholes who made things worse, I don't want to be that guy (and maybe (3) I agree with them). Made it much easier to treat them as no big deal.
Now that guy is retired, and the administrator dealing with the Occupy campsites hasn't seen a lot of big campus demonstrations. And we're all much more used to obeying the security state or having consequences imposed.
At least Ol' Dirty Bastard was funny. Nugent's just a paranoid moron.
16: weirdly, he was younger than I thought.
Me also. I thought he was near or past 90.
He's just two years older than my dad.
21: My mom and your dad are the same age.
I also thought Dick Clark was older. I guess this shows that extreme measures to make yourself look younger, can sometimes have the opposite results. Or maybe he's just been very sick for a while.
Clark had a stroke. So did my dad, but when he was much younger.
I'd agree about Nugent, but he's had Hannity call him a "friend of the show" or some such, and Romney talked within the last week or two about how it was fun getting to know him. Treating him like he matters is still silly, but he really has been embraced by the party. He's a long-time NRA board member, too, I think--not just a crazed supporter, a board member.
24 - Yeah, he's more like Charlton Heston on the right-wing celebrity spectrum than he is like Victoria Jackson or Dave Mustaine.
Now I want there to be a band featuring the Nuge, Dave Mustaine, and Victoria Jackson. "The Kenyan Dukes," they could call it. Or "Üsürpër!".
23: Huh. My mom had a stroke too -- about 6 years ago.
I hope she it didn't hit her that hard. My dad's was when he was in his 60s.
How much more awesome a world would it be if Ol' Dirty Bastard were on the NRA board and chummy with presidential candidates?
25: Jackson's cute little ukulele song would sound great backed by Nuge and Mustaine
28: So much more awesome. Instead we just have the President palling around with Common (not quite the same, is it?) and calling Kanye a jackass. If Romney had said that of the Nuge, my respect for him would've increased significantly.
My favorite ODB lyric:
Cuz nothin can stop me from buryin my bones in the backyard, of someone else's house Ol' Dirt Dog, but I'm not dogged out Here comes Rover, sniffin at your ass Pardon me bitch, as I shit on your grass
Oh, ODB, you are such a romantic!
25:
Jihadists in the White House suck
Would you like some making fuck
Üsürpër!
Oh, ODB, you are such a romantic!
"I don't have no trouble with you fuckin' me
But I have a little problem with you not fuckin' me"
If ODB were on the NRA board, we'd have such great gun control laws.
If ODB were on the NRA board, we'd have such great gun control laws.
27: It did hit her pretty hard. She had thought she was perfectly healthy, and then she was almost completely paralyzed on one side of her body. But she's since made a complete recovery.
Topically, the UC Davis police chief just resigned.