I'm working on my running until I get fast enough to try persistence hunting. Nobody will out primitive me.
You have set up a devious plan to fuck with me, but it is based in an unsubtle confusion of the two senses of "geek."
"It is also impractical ... you do not feed our four billion people through the efforts of matadors or deer hunters armed with bows and arrows. There is no time to honor and respect all the animals we need to feed ourselves."
Also while this is sort of true, we could have grassfed animals for almost everyone. We just need to empty the great plains and create the strategic bison reserve.
I have a relative contesting in a hipster-artisanal-food-preparation invitational later this month. I will encourage him to engage in geekery to sway the judges. (He'll have to bring his own chicken, I guess, unless he can just find one wandering around Brooklyn.)
the idea that they must be hunted fairly
WTF does this even mean? Challenging an animal to a duel?
5: only hunt those that hunt you in turn.
"contesting in a" should probably be "contesting a", shouldn't it?
WTF does this even mean? Challenging an animal to a duel?
I assume it refers to the concept of Fair Chase. Neither that link nor any other I've found seems to explain it very well, but the basic idea as I understand it is to hunt in such a way as to give the prey a reasonable chance to escape.
An alternate view. The old values are crumbling.
Is not the time ripe, I ask, precisely for the geek, not in its modern but in its chicken-biting sense?
I have no idea what this means, unfortunately.
11:Rather, consider yourself fortunate.
Ozzie, Alice, and myself are too old and jaded to feed the multitude.
OED s.v. Geek (n): 2. U.S. slang. A performer at a carnival or circus whose show consists of bizarre or grotesque acts, such as biting the head off a live animal.
I would have gone with the Great White Hunter Z/uckerb/erg angle, myself, but perhaps too obvious.
something something Katherine Dunn.
(eat ass, stupid comment filtration demon)
Pfft. The obvious solution is human-quadruped races.
Oh. Thanks. I'd thought from the OP's observation that we already have classes furnishing their patrons with the opportunity to cut flesh in the large that we were already more or less in the chicken-biting phase. I thought perhaps there was a call afoot for the geek to figure out how to scale things up.
I'll have to look up the Cora Diamond reference myself, I guess. I tend to be a fan of hers, and am curious about the context of the quoted remark.
Isn't it about time for some Slate- or NYer-approved pseud to gin up an "Eat local? We shouldn't be eating anything: Ten reasons to put down the fork and subsist on the auric energy of the spheres" essay?
3: That would be so great. Bison is like magical beef.
20: breatharians are the ultimate locavores?
I wonder how Cora Diamond is with an atlatl.
3: No, no! We need animals that eat things we don't like. Pigs will eat virtually anything with any nutrients at all. Chickens love cock(roaches) -- that sort of thing. NYC could be a gigantic chicken ranch. The Eggs of Fate indeed!
[B]reatharians are the ultimate locavores?
I triple-dog-dare you to pitch that to Slate.
23: Pointer than she is with bolas, presumably.
20: There was a piece in the local B'more urban magazine on proudly locavore-style restaurants which basically said that: Why locavore? The food is bland!* I mean, come on! Supported by quotes from people in the local food scene who said that locavorism could, yeah, be controlling and nazi-like and narrow-minded and so on.
* This part completely bewildered me.
24: What do bison eat that you like?
Well, we like open space more than the grass, specifically, I guess, but we do eat lots of seeds of grass.
I heard an amusing anecdote yesterday about a houseguest who went into a vegetarian's kitchen and made pancakes, not realizing that he had used pure gluten powder instead of flour. Until he ate the pancakes, that is.
I'd thought from the OP's observation that we already have classes furnishing their patrons with the opportunity to cut flesh in the large that we were already more or less in the chicken-biting phase
A remarkable inference.
The Diamond quotation is from "Eating Meat and Eating People".
A remarkable inference.
As a vegetarian, parsimon may not be up on the latest developments in artisanal carnivory.
31.last: Thanks. I've read that and admired it; don't remember that remark, so I should probably reread it.
"Eating Meat and Eating People" is a good article, by the way.
went into a vegetarian's kitchen and made pancakes, not realizing that he had used pure gluten powder instead of flour
What does one use pure gluten powder for?
More particularly, what that is particular to vegetarians?
Seitan and fortifying bread when you forget to buy bread flour.
What does one use pure gluten powder for?
Poisoning celiacs?
41: That's just a made-up disease.
Ohh, seitan. I'm not sure I ever knew what that was before. I've eaten it on a few occasions and found it fucking disgusting, though.
Looking at the Wikipedia page for seitan led me to the African Hebrew Israelites, who apparently practice veganism and run an international chain of vegan soul food restaurants.
More in the way of expiation is needed.
Like turning dead cats into quadrotor drones.
(via Apo)
One must eat the other, who runs free before him,
Put him right into his mouth.
While fantasizing, the union is movement, a sensation not unlike slapping yourself in the face.
I just made a batch and Sally didn't mind it in stirfry. I have to admit that I didn't think much of it myself.
44: I had a wikipedia fugue recently reading about various quasi-Jewish ethnic groups. The Lemba people are a pretty fascinating case. (The whole thing was started by trying to understand the history of religion in Ethiopia, which was in turn prompted by the discussion here about non-Mormon heterodox Christianity.)
Teo, what do you know about New Mexican crypto-Jews? Seems like the sort of thing you might have opinions about.
I've said it before, but the only ethical diet is strict cannibalism, according to the theory that only man is vile. It's catching on!
Teo, what do you know about New Mexican crypto-Jews?
A fair amount. It's a really fascinating subject.
In your opinion, how likely is it that there really are New Mexican crypto-Jews with traditions stretching back to the Inquisition? The genetic evidence does suggest that there's an atypically high amount of Jewish ancestry in that population, but that doesn't necessarily tell you that you have Jewish customs being handed down. A little poking suggests that a lot of the non-genetic evidence is ambiguous.
I think it's pretty likely. Some of the families with Jewish-seeming customs may have acquired them through Seventh-Day Adventist proselytization in the early twentieth century (the main alternative explanation I've seen), but for other families there seems to be a pretty clear indication that the practices are much older, and some circumstantial evidence from historical documents suggesting the same. I had not heard about any genetic evidence.
The genetic stuff is more recent, but there's high frequency of Cohen Modal Haplotype Y-chromosome, and of a typically Jewish breast cancer mutation. But both of those just tell you that there were some Jewish converts in the initial founder population. Nonetheless it bolsters the story.
(By contrast Ethiopian Jews do not seem to have detectable Jewish genetic ancestry, which doesn't disprove ancient Jewish ancestry but certainly bolsters the theory that they adopted Judaism more recently.)
The genetic stuff is more recent, but there's high frequency of Cohen Modal Haplotype Y-chromosome, and of a typically Jewish breast cancer mutation. But both of those just tell you that there were some Jewish converts in the initial founder population. Nonetheless it bolsters the story.
Yeah, it definitely does, although the historical evidence for a substantial number of conversos being present during the colonial period has been well established for a while now. What remaining controversy exists is mainly over the extent to which Jewish practices have been passed down to the present, but I think even that is fading. A lot of the controversy has come more from resistance to the idea from certain sectors of both the Jewish and Hispanic communities than from any real ambiguity in the evidence.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, but seitan is poison.
A little poking suggests that a lot of the non-genetic evidence is ambiguous.
Well, it would, wouldn't it?
Nice visual on this "how to make seitan" article.
Bob should move his death metal talk to the seitan thread.
how to make seitan: first, get yourself a dark seitanic mill.
Ooh, a phrase that has no Google hits. The other day I was disappointed to find that "boba fête" has a bunch.
The sadly defunct local joke-punk group "Punky Bruser" had a great song, whose title I forget, where the chorus went something like "Seitan is so tasty, [something something punning on Satan]". I should really ask the front woman for the lyrics or an MP3 if such exists. It was a funny song.
I have developed this perplexing relationship with my iphone (no pause-play; this becomes relevant in a minute) where I sleep with it beside my head sometimes (what, I'm afraid I won't hear the alarm, or maybe I'll have a heart attack and need to call 911) and fumble for it first thing when I wake up to check the time and read email and sometimes other internetical stuff* before I am fully awake. It was disorienting to read something quite so nosflovian as this posting when half awake.
*does not mean pr0n.
64: I checked the other day and "America's Best Robot Hustlers" is all mine.
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The Harper's article about New Mexican crypto-Jews a few years ago kept coming back to this apparently Jewish tradition of sweeping into the center of a room. This confused me. Where else are you going to sweep? It's going to be hard to get the dustpan in the corners.
Now playing in my head: Seitan, Seitan, lend me a dollar...
69: Very scary. Glad to hear he seems to be doing OK.
Thanks for driving by. Wishing Werdna a quick and full recovery.
Yow, but a very reassuring post -- clearly, he's feeling good enough to write well.
Erk. Get well soon for werdnA.
You just feel sympathetic as a member of the hsitirB-sdrawkcaB community.
Get well soon and I'm reminded that I have to get my stupid lipids checked tomorrow.
77: Smart lipids know to hide from the needle.
What's this in my stir fry?
Could it be.......seitan?
Ugh, just saw 69 about werdnA, who was so kind and friendly a couple weeks ago when we were in London. So glad to hear recovery seems to be going smoothly. Hang in there.
Thank you all for this. I hadn't known. I have both children round my bed right now, which is really great. It looks as if I will be OK in due time, and possibly outlast my beloved employer.
Excellent news, man. Keep up the good work.