Re: Professional attire

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who on earth wears shorts to teach in?!

This guy.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:21 PM
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Who on earth thinks shorts are inappropriate to teach in?


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:22 PM
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My impression has always been that Fall semester students are more uptight than Spring semester students.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:23 PM
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The only professor I ever had who wore shorts to class was in economics. He wore Bike* shorts and I never could take him or economics seriously because of it. Hugely helpful to my life.

*Capitalized to indicate that Bike is a brand, not a style.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:23 PM
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You don't wear shorts to a teach-in.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:30 PM
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2: I'm sure it looks fine in your hemisphere. Do you wear them with boots as is apparently common on a nearby island/continent?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:31 PM
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Oh, god, the ANZAC workboots with tiny shorts look. I'm sure it's perfectly dignified appearing if you're from there, but I spent my life in Samoa trying not to giggle at NZ and Australian construction workers.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:32 PM
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I'm fairly sure I've worn shorts to teach in. Summer revision classes, in a small tutorial group. Long cargo type shorts with a short sleeved neat shirt, though. Nothing too scruffy.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:37 PM
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Oh god, the number of math profs who wear shorts during summer classes - that's totally different.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:40 PM
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I could see Fontana Labs teaching in a pair of these.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 2:45 PM
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7 -- o yeah, that's totally a thing. I wouldn't teach in those, to be fair.

The Gisborne District Court used to see suitable shorts as appropriate attire for court appearances for lawyers.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:11 PM
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11 -- My local counsel (male) wore sandals to a court appearance in the USVI. I wore cowboy boots.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:14 PM
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3: Relatedly, teaching in fall/winter was always more pleasant to me as students were more engaged and worked harder than they did in Spring.

I've never worn shorts to teach in but I am pretty sure I wore flip flops to at least one summer session class. (Though, possibly shorts as a TA? I can't remember, too many classes.)


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:17 PM
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11, 12: It gets casual on the islands? The court in our town had a rule against string ties. I think the judge wanted to stop the lawyers from trying to out good-old-boy each other.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:19 PM
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A philosophy prof with whom I and at least one other commenter studied logic wore shorts and Tevas year round in St. Louis.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:21 PM
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I knew a philosophy prof who wore Birkenstocks without socks all year in Nebraska. He didn't wear shorts ever.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:26 PM
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I did wear shorts as a TA, particularly during the summer. I don't think I did during the school year, though.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:26 PM
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15: !!! When was this? I was there in the early-to-mid-aughts.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:54 PM
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Also, I often teach in shorts and sandals. I don't tolerate the heat well.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:55 PM
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YAY. I'm going in circles over a difficult scheduling mess. Colleague is being a particular pain in the ass. I idly wish there were some way to tattle on him to the administration.

He uses the long email thread to promote something irrelevant, and he CCs all the relevant administration on it. In particular, directly under his promotional thing is a message from me saying "Yike, John! That sure does complicate everything. I thought we'd cleared this last semester? Can we do some brain-storming to figure out a solution?"

HA HA YAY.

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 3:56 PM
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Yike, John! That sure does complicate everything. I thought we'd cleared this last semester?

So now you're going to create a survey and circulate it to your department?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 4:00 PM
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I've worn a string tie to a deposition (basically on a dare) but never in court. Depo was in Amsterdam. Probably also an island.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 4:38 PM
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Is this thread dead? On the wearing of shorts, yeah, I was completely surprised when I moved here for grad school to see a professor -- the head of the department, no less -- in shorts and birkenstocks (with socks, I think) at the beginning of my first semester. As the semester wore on, all became clear: it's the weather, silly. It's freaking hot here. And so I gradually ditched the turtlenecks I'd brought from New England, or cut off their necks; as summer unfolded, I cut the sleeves off my t-shirts; eventually I retired my long wool coat (so loved, so unnecessary) altogether.

My advisor always wore a jacket and tie for the first week of classes, and I adopted a similar pattern for teaching. First impressions!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 6:39 PM
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My old firm, which was terrible on all accounts, did have a completely free and open dress policy, permitting all manner of clothing and footwear. I wore shorts fairly often, as the climate here is temperate, and I think others did as well. Or if not, I didn't care.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 6:42 PM
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!!! When was this? I was there in the early-to-mid-aughts.

I was there in the late 90s. You were the commenter I was thinking of who had recognized my description of him before. (I think I told about having class at his house and him making us eat massive quantities of ice cream and listen to Bartok after each class session.)


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 6:56 PM
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I've had I think three profs lecture in shorts. In Eugene and Pasadena.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 6:59 PM
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It's not even that hot in Berkeley, but I think it's common enough for people to wear shorts. This guy did when I was a freshman.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 7:16 PM
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There are some knee-length khaki shorts you could wear with a pressed white t-shirt and a blazer which would look quite professional.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 7:25 PM
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I associate shorts-wearing with mathematicians. And political scientists. Perhaps philosophers. But only men. Never women.
(I was half certain that 27 was going to be the berkeley. naked guy. Although he was a student, not a prof)


Posted by: Fluxus12 | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 7:32 PM
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25: Oh, um, now that you mention it I do recall that...sorry!


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 7:51 PM
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Good news: the Berkeley Hills hyenas are safe.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/localnews/ci_22350340/oakland-zoo-home-three-new-spotted-hyenas

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 7:53 PM
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I associate shorts-wearing with mathematicians.

29: There was a math concentrator when I was an undergraduate who went on to do a PhD at Princeton who always wore shorts--even in the dead of winter. I think I saw him wear pants once. He also used to sit in trees a lot.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 7:55 PM
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There was a computer science lecturer at Vic that never wore shoes.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 8:30 PM
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I fear I may have gone to my first meeting with a professor - my advisor freshman year - without shoes. The only pair I owned then were still wet that morning from my dancing in a fountain the night before.


Posted by: joyslinger | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 8:53 PM
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I attended one school where almost no one wore shoes. There was one rather formal professor who forbade the wearing of hats in the classroom, but even he did not require shoes.


Posted by: Fluxus12 | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 9:05 PM
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I went to a school where no one had shoes and I pitied myself until I met a man who went to a school where no one had feet. And then I wondered if maybe I workplace safety and child labor weren't somethings someone should be looking into.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 9:14 PM
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(I was half certain that 27 was going to be the berkeley. naked guy. Although he was a student, not a prof)

Berkeley naked math prof.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 9:20 PM
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Shorter this thread: mathematicians are weird.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-10-13 9:21 PM
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Do you wear them with boots as is apparently common on a nearby island/continent?

Obviously he does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkO-EKRVd0


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 2:38 AM
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um, you guys? so, this is pretty weird and stuff, and we haven't actually signed any papers, but the history channel has picked us up for 10 half-hour shows. they have a new "lifestyle" channel which I think is less nazis and more hoarders and pawn stars and suchlike. I thought no news was bad news from our producer, but he was apparently negotiating cannily on our behalf, because initially they were going to pay for a pilot and then see how it polled or whatever, but now they've just gone for it. an actual tv show, on real live american television. it's...kind of freaking me out. if only I weren't dying of deathitis right now...no, eh, I'm ok, it's just my condition is worsering rather than bettering. I need to be told when I have to be on and I'll just take a bunch of steroids and speed and argh. this is not an altogether promising line of approach. it'll work though! shit. that's the only way. the family way! they're putting my mom on too, to run the store in our absence, hopefully my bro and sis, together with my business partner's family. and what, I don't want a tv show? it'll be fun, at least one season will be fun. about the third thing I thought about was, "what'll I say on unfogged!" so my priorities are where they should be. I'll keep you posted. as I said below, the MRI was not just awful; better than a cold bath with someone I dislike.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 5:34 AM
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Yay al, that's fantastic, incredible stuff! What's the proposed format of these shows? What will you have to do?

Also, doesn't this post slightly fuck with your anonymity in the circs?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 5:50 AM
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It's a good cover, though, if she's in the Circus.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 5:56 AM
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Hey, that's great! I'm excited for you.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 6:07 AM
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Whoa! Good luck!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 6:11 AM
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Wow! Crazy!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 7:01 AM
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Have fun on the teevee.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 7:23 AM
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better than a cold bath with someone I dislike

Would you have to say it's better than a war?

Congratulations on the show! Several of my cousins have been the subject of one of the kinds of shows you mentioned, for the past few years. It's pretty gruesome to watch (they are fairly unpleasant people to begin with, and the draw of the show appears to be primarily the family bickering rather than the business the show is nominally about, so they play that up) but they absolutely love it and have a lot of fun with it.


Posted by: potchkeh | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:15 AM
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Never thought that Potchkeh's family would have been on Operacion Repo, or that Al would have volunteered for Buckwild.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:27 AM
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Go kick Honey Boo Boo's ass, Al.


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:33 AM
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if only I weren't dying of deathitis right now

Deathosis is what you really want to watch out for.

You'll tell us when it's on so we can watch (Halford) or pirate (trapnel) it, right?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:37 AM
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48: The business these cousins are in is far more shameful and exploitative of human misery.


Posted by: potchkeh | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:41 AM
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One of our local stores has been getting a lot of attention because its name is similar to that of a reality show.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:50 AM
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alameida:

A suggestion for your show's theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjy71RPGnkA


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 8:56 AM
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Awesome news, alameida. Downton Abbey move over.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 11:23 AM
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yeah, we're hoping to avoid the homey boo boo aspect. they're going to hire experts for us to value things accurately when we're in china and stuff, because there's no way we could learn enough to do them all, 2 in china, 2 india, vietnam, thailand, malaysia... cambodia I guess? but the only cool thing to buy is guns. they used to have old ap pix. they have loose gems, they do real good there.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 01-11-13 11:33 PM
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Wow, that's awesome. Hooray Al!


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 01-12-13 12:06 AM
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Oh wow, I just noticed this. That's really awesome, al.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-12-13 12:20 AM
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Congrats, al.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-12-13 12:29 AM
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51: Huh, one of my cow-orkers was just talking about that show the other day.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-12-13 12:29 AM
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That's pretty great, al!


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-12-13 12:55 AM
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