Pacing! You'll just drive ogged away again.
That doesn't seem particularly egregious. The three or four seconds of the song I had to listen to to hear her pronunciation were worse than the pronunciation itself.
Maybe it was the surprise factor. Maybe I oversold it. I was horrified.
Doesn't seem weird to me--it's just stretched out, so that each syllable is clearly pronounced, and you don't get the usual schwa in the next-to-last syllable.
nCONd'SHUN doesn't strike you as odd?
One finds it most vexing, to be sure.
Oh, that. Looks like you've got the link cued to the wrong part of the video.
Yeah, that is kinda weird.
In a song? Are the vexed among you nuts?
Seriously, you are allowed to move the accents of words in music and verse. This is totally ok.
9: I still want to know what a marbled brick portico looks like, though.
I agree with rob. Put it on dead trees with some acutes and we'll be slobbering over it.
Fido, you've gone far enough
I must have all of your love
You just run out of luck
I don't care what you foxhounds
Do, but your leash is too long
Stephin Merritt manages to sing this, so that "luck" rhymes with the first syllable of "foxhounds".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuolj8pXlY
It's a disorienting feeling for me not to be a linguistic scold, but I genuinely don't see what's wrong with this, other than the annoying blandness of the song.
Louise, she's all right, she's just near
She's delicate and seems like the mirror
But she just makes it all too concise and too clear
That Johanna's not here
Dylan rhymes "mirror" with "near". Until the lyrics were published I don't think anyone was sure what word that was. There was much speculation.
There's an Austin Lounge Lizards song with the same rhyme.
I buy a tenth of whiskey and a cold three-pack of beer
I drink till I see single when I gaze into the mirror
Schwa between two American r's makes for a pretty elidable syllable.
When the rain washezz you clean, you'll chill out about this, heebie. Also 2 is right.
When can we move on to the fact that Manfred Mann obviously says "douche" and not "deuce" in "Blinded By The Light"?
We've already discussed that the pinnacle of that song is the unbelievable emotion in the delivery of BUT MAMA. THAT'S WHERE THE FUN ISSSSSSS.
I still stand in awe of Bradley Nowell for, in the same song, rhyming "riot" with "got", and also rhyming "riot" with "high".
There's a modern country song, Break Down Here, sung by Julie Roberts, that uses it too:
I'd sure hate to break down here -
Nothin' up ahead or in the rear-view mirror -.
This is the same song whose line Everything I own is in the back in a Hefty bag / I'm outta cigarettes and I'm down to my last drag spurred an entertaining round of scandalized comments convinced that drag was rag and that the line was about menstruation.
(Aurally, the word is ambiguous, but as much as I enjoy thinking that the ambiguity was produced intentionally - both lines are evocative - the song was first released by a male artist.)
Back to the OP, you are all high. The pronunciation is atrocious and unforgivable. If you actually picture the song-writing process, it is unacceptable to be dinking around with pencil and paper and muse "how about....unconditionally? No, I've got it: nnnCON-dSHUN-ally. It rhymes!"
Back to the OP, you are all high.
We sure are! You got a problem with that?
It sure was considerate of heebie to make a post in which she's so catastrophically wrong so that ogged won't think the people disagreeing with him in his post are a sign of some kind of special animosity or ill treatment or whatever.
26: Yes. Otherwise, he might have thought it was just the hostility of abandoned children -- actually not just abandoned, but literally replaced.
Heebie trying to ruin her reputation for being always right. That song, however, really is an atrocity. The YT sidebar had a bunch of links to other recent female ultra manufactured pop hits which were all pretty generic but mostly catchy and inoffensive. The Kate Perry song really stood out.
So could "unconscionably" replace the title of the song and scan properly? (I'm not listening again to see.)
Also, Lady Gaga really does sing something like "One minute I'm a Künstlerin -- suddenly the Kunst is me" in "Applause," right? I wonder if she's suggestible enough that someone could persuade her to do a Nina Hagen cover. "Unbeschreiblich weiblich," ideally.
Seriously, I'm trying to figure out what's supposed to be not-normal about her pronunciation of that word. Is it just the rhythm?
It's fine. I'm starting to think none of you have ever spoken out loud, but that's fine.
So could "unconscionably" replace the title of the song and scan properly?
Almost. But you'd have to do uncon-sci-ON-nably.
31: I don't do it so often now that I'm commenting here.
The pronunciation doesn't bother me, but the visuals do. Who are the people in the video?! Is either one of them Katy Perry, and if so, which one? I don't recognize her without the fake eyelashes and the giant boobs.
Wait, no, seriously. Make with the explicit. Did I miss the explicit? What is wrong with her pronunciation? I just listened again. This is a word stress issue?
She says "unconditionally" with the stress on the 2nd and 4th syllable.
I say "unconditionally" with the stress on the 3rd syllable. Is that right?
Part of the confusion here appears to be that the part of the song heebie linked to is actually one of the weakest examples of the pronunciation she's complaining about. She's still wrong, though.
If heebie reailly knew what unconditionally means she wouldn't be such a stickler about the pronunciation.
I don't recognize her without the fake eyelashes and the giant boobs.
Be right back, have to do some research.
36 I just do not hear this. I want to make the joke "you know she's singing, right?" without being a condescending prick, so imagine lots or emoticons.
I guess it's good that heebie picked something trivial to be comprehensively wrong about.
Unconditionally wrong, even.
I think this is the part Heebie meant to link to.
Is this a video with a 14 year old Leonardo di Capezio? And who is the gal-- most of the video is shot with framing and an angle such that only a rear view of her very nice jawline is visible. Are there other parts of the video where her collarbone is visible?
Ok, I can hear the pattern of emphasis, but, uh, what Smearcase said. It's a song, you know?
This video is pretty terrible itself.
Everything is bad except for the pronunciations of "unconditional" and "unconditionally", which are unremarkable.
So, I was asking Google who the models were in the video, and one of the autocompletes is "Katy Perry Unconditionally lyrics meaning." Wow.
Department of "Can't Let it Go": 37 degrees in Detroit; 62 in Louisville.
I watched the first minute of the video, and heebie is absolutely right. Her only mistake was underestimating the contrarianism of the commenters.
From the description I was afraid of "unconDEEshunaLEE" which would be pretty silly. But unCONdiSHUNally is pretty smart to my ears.
44 makes a better case than the OP.
12 obscures that Mr. Merritt was purposefully playing with the emphasis to set up a "Susie Has a Steamboat" joke.
What, it is apparently always really easy to guess who I am when I go presidential.
I was accidentally sort of rude to someone at unfoggedacadegon (this always sounds like part of the thunderclap Finnegans Wake which I obviously have not read) and from time to time I remember to feel bad about it, like right now, because I'm up later than almost anyone (hi Teo!) and neurosing around. I couldn't decide which thread to dump that on. I picked this one!
Now I'm going to watch sitcom episodes on my phone because until I get a job, I'm sure I'm going to be on a weird schedule. It's just inevitable.
Hi Mr. President! I understand the feeling. I don't think I did that to anyone at the con, but I've certainly done it in other contexts. Plus of course I have other things I randomly feel bad about from time to time.
And on that note, I got an e-mail out of the blue today from a girl I asked out in high school who rejected me very harshly. She's now apologizing for being so harsh, and I'm trying to compose a response. It's difficult.
I mean, I still feel bad about stuff from high school sometimes.
Oh wow jinx about high school.
That's great though. You get to decide whether to be magnanimous or a total prick.
I'm going with magnanimous, since this has not actually been a big deal for me overall. It stung at the time, but it did lead me to be more careful in interpreting my interactions with other people going forward. I'm not sure how useful that has been overall, since obviously my life since high school has not exactly been a model of happiness and romantic success, but I think I'm going to emphasize the positive in my response and leave the self-doubt for comments here.
Hey, everyone should say what ten people from their past they wish they could tell off!
I don't think I could name ten such people if I tried.
50: Because a spot temperature check between Detroit and a more southerly city than the one under discussion is very relevant.
66: I also bet Louisville got its first snow last night, though I haven't checked facebook yet to be sure and am just guessing from our weather. Still, first snow within a week of teo's is a useless counteranecdote.
Oh, and Smearcase, I'm pretty sure you weren't rude to me in DC (OR WERE YOU? That trick anout how gin and soda is something a reasonable person might like would count if you hadn't also poisoned yourself with the stuff.) but The Smearcase and Teo Show makes me so happy when I get caught up every morning and probably counterbalances rudeness.
First snow last might as I wake up from dream of trudging through snow.
56: she's been ridden with guilt ever since, and/or she's changed her mind.
Snow didn't stick on the roads. It's pretty.
When can we move on to the fact that Manfred Mann obviously says "douche" and not "deuce" in "Blinded By The Light"?
Also, why does Johnny Rivers obviously and deliberately sing "Secret Asian Man."
|| I just learned that one of my grandmother's caregivers to her on a four-hour unplanned, unapproved road trip on Sunday. Given that my grandmother has no short-term memory, she doesn't remember it (my aunt reads the visit logs). I suspect she talked the caregiver into going to "check on" her old house (sold in 1982, but she thinks she still owns it), but what kind of crazy caregiver agrees to such a thing? A four hour drive with an almost ninety year old charge with dementia on a four hour shift? |>
Tell her caregiver not to do it again and offer to pay for her gas.
Well, sure, but crazy, right? I mean, the caregiver should be aware that she's not exactly competent. The caregivers all drive my grandmother's car (long story), so the family does pay for gas and car insurance. It's the weird combo of poor judgment and eagerness to please that I can't fathom.
I don't know. A nice drive would be good for a change. Something different than sitting around the house for again. Obviously, checking with somebody in the family before going would have been better.
Maybe the caregiver is selling Amway or drugs and needed to make delivery.
Speaking of weird emails out of the past, I recently (August) got an email from someone I briefly dated in 2003 asking if I remember him and if I remember anything nice about him because he's going through a hard time right now and has forgotten anything likable about himself. Apparently he married in a rush to get himself to settle down and has a baby he likes and a wife he despises. Jesus Christ. So I'm all, I remember our first date, and the birthday card you made me, and that you were really nice to me and thoughtful, even after we broke up. But I'm not going to comment or involve myself in his personal situation except to say it sounds like a rough time and I hope he figures it out. He wanted to start a whole correspondence about his sorrow, and I have basically zero inclination to become a dumpster for the feelings of an ex who has created an injunction that he must stay married to someone he hates. It's especially eerie because the reason we broke up was that it was clear he wanted to marry me and reproduce despite not really being compatible with me in any discernible way. Why do these men think they're doing women some huge favor by marrying them and secretly loathing them?
Apparently he married in a rush to get himself to settle down and has a baby he likes and a wife he despises.
Obvious solution: Another baby to increase the proportion of the people in the house he likes.
Or, it he's self-loathing and wants to like a clear majority of the household, two babies.
Why do these men think they're doing women some huge favor
I don't think that's generally the calculation.
Maybe he's a creep. Maybe he has bad people sense, since he wanted to settle down twice without discriminating much about who with.
No reason to correspond with him of course, but I think incompetence or at best ineptitude is at least as frequent as actual malice.
82: That is, the primary motivator there is more often fear of being alone rather than anything that could be considered altruistic, or even empathetic. Then once the "I'll be alone forever" terror has been assuaged, the "hell is other people (but especially this person)" dread settles in good and hard.
79: Is this guy from a Nordic land? I'm trying to figure out if I know this story.
67.2: No, it's someone I haven't seen comment in a while, so I probably killed him.
66: Why didn't I quit while I was ahead... I won in the other thread didn't I?!!
85.last: Sort of. You were still being a hyperbolist, but my response was overly aggressive in trying to make my stupid "narcissism of small climatic differences" joke and I handed you an undeserved victory.
1) I did not properly take account of the fact that NYC does get a bit of moderation in the Winter from being close on the Atlantic. Changes as you go inland fairly quickly.
2) And in the winter the whole Eastern seaboard benefits from a small but noticeable rain/cloud shadow effect from prevailing winds passing over the Appalachians . (At some point I was going to try figure out % of winter precip that comes from Nor'easters, which avoid that effect. And even though they bring a lot of precipitation, they move fast and are generally followed by cold fronts so don't tend to lead to any sustained cloudiness.)
God I wish it was about 15 degrees colder right now. Sick of rain and smirr. Bring on the snow and the freezing mornings.
The Socttish apparently have 40 words for rain.
I have 99 typos and a btich ain't one.
The Amazing Adventures of Kobe and the 99 Luftballoons.
OT: I'm starting to feel like commenting is interfereing with productivity. (Again.) I tell myself that things aren't getting done because I have too much to do, but it may be that they're not getting done because I'm reading comments on unfogged. Bleh.
Not to encourage you to keep commenting, but when I've taken breaks for that reason, it hasn't helped. I just procrastinate by doing even more pathetic things.
I turned on leechblock so I comment in much smaller windows. Then, when I get leechblocked, I comment on other devices.
I just procrastinate by doing even more pathetic things.
This is hard to imagine.
You'd be surprised by what you can make out of binder clips.
I just procrastinate by doing even more pathetic things.
I feel like I do this for about 80% of the time I'd have otherwise been commenting here*, but the other 20% represents a real increase in productivity.
* e.g., for unimaginable reasons I spent about three full days learning what I believe may be everything there is to know (in freely available written form on the internet) about axes a few months ago. And now I own three new axes, even though I don't have a fireplace or a yard with any trees in it or any other plausible use for an axe.
The 80/20 thing is probably fair, come to think.
Best Made Co.'s axes are overpriced.
97: Have you made any progress on the longbow self-defense/recreation plan? If you say yes, you're my hero. Actually, now that you have axes, could you learn to throw them?
99: yes, so obviously I didn't buy one of those.
If you don't need an axe, maybe consider an adze. You can use those for word working.
Personally, I prefer to remain in a daze.
I'll be damned if I'm not going to try to imaging those reasons, though.
102: or an Auk if you don't really need anything.
I have now largely exhausted my supply of knowledge about axes and, probably, auks.
And now I own three new axes
Labeled "X", "Y", and "Z"?
Moby is bold, bold as love. Just ask the axes.
Oops, that should have been urple. He's bold as love, too.
These are juggling axes, aren't they.
I swear this began as a "why is it I know nothing about American history?" moment before the disambiguation page too it somewhere else, but there is something kind of hilarious about the Wikipedia page on deep throating.
1) *took it somewhere else
2) I just thought I'd correct the spelling in some really low-hanging fruit.
93: I just procrastinate by doing even more pathetic things.
When I took a break last spring, I turned to Twitter. So now I have Twitter and this place. Not helping.
Have you made any progress on the longbow self-defense/recreation plan?
A longbow would be a ridiculous weapon for self-defense. I was talking about a standard recurve bow. And no I haven't gotten one yet, but only because I've bad at getting things done. I will, at some point.
I have a recurve bow in my basement. But no arrows.
They're not much good without arrows.
I don't have nearly enough room to shoot arrows anyway.
How about a bow that shoots axes? Now that would be badass.
116: Mad Jack Churchill: Churchill gave the signal to attack by cutting down the enemy Feldwebel (sergeant) with a barbed arrow, becoming the only British soldier known to have felled an enemy with a longbow in WWII. Additional colorful detail left as an exercise for ajay.
Why do these men think they're doing women some huge favor by marrying them and secretly loathing them?
Would you people just write these damn rules down in one place, once and for all? Criminy.
I have a friend who got decent at axe-throwing while he was living in a basement and had a concrete, dead-end, otherwise unused corridor to practice in. Also he was about twenty.
(My blog absence wasn't especially productive either. I think last time I was really productive, I had a terrible teen drama with training montages streaming more or less on loop in the corner of my screen. Might need to do it again.)
she's been ridden with guilt ever since, and/or she's changed her mind.
Definitely the former, which she said outright in the e-mail. According to FB she's engaged, so probably not the latter.
125: I don't know, what would a Hugh Grant romcom character do?
Obviously, the next step is for urple to get way into Axe body spray. I mean, just what are the culinary possibilities? We really don't know yet, and we're counting on you, urps.
121: he also carried his claymore at all times, believing that any officer without his sword was improperly dressed. (checking) Wikipedia has several photos of him. The second is of him gazing down the barrel of a 75mm artillery piece. The third is of him storming a beach, sword in hand. ("As the ramps fell on the first landing craft, Churchill leapt forward from his position playing "March of the Cameron Men" on his bagpipes, before throwing a grenade and running into battle in the bay.") He was apparently also the first man ever to surf the Severn Bore.
("Churchill was said to be unhappy with the sudden end of the war, saying: 'If it wasn't for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another 10 years.'")
129 was kind of a wild ride before I figured out what kind of claymore it referred to.
He was apparently also the first man ever to surf the Severn Bore.
Shouting "Jerry don't surf!"
But probably with different musical accompaniment.
Heebie is so wrong on this. The song is truly egREGious, but there's nothing objecTIONal about the pronunciation she's talking about.
Let Turgid be the first to suggest.
Was listening to videos on vevo and that one came on. Thought it a meet moment to remind heebie of her mistake.