Re: Dr. Willie Parker

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Takeaway after 40 years:bullying and violence works like a charm.

2:Depending on the Patriarchy, legal system, political efforts, organization is a total fail, unless the last guy helping in Miss is all you need.

3: Suggestion:targeted assassinations, as many as it takes. Unless what feels good is men (and why, like Tiller, is it always male abortion doctors?) fighting and sacrificing themselves for women's freedom so women can stay "nice"


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 8:24 AM
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Austin Clinic Closes

Why do I have to be the one to be really motherfucking pissed off out of my mind when you get to get warm fuzzies from the nice Miss doctor?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 8:29 AM
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Dunno, Bob. I guess because you're the only one who really understands the issues involved in women's access to health care. So, tell us about YOUR experiences having and/or providing abortions.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 9:14 AM
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I dunno, drove a woman 2000 miles in 1970. Looks like we're back there again.

"Austin Clinic Closes" doesn't require special knowledge or insight to understand. It's a fail.

I do remember umm a commenter here gathering progeny to watch what's-her-name's terrific speech on the Texas House Floor. That was like a great moment for feminism. Wait...

After forty years, it's either women won't fight, or elite women are using feminism for cynical and opportunistic status and salary gains, or women just don't give a fuck.

But what forty years means 300 million women, and not one even tried to take a tire iron to Randall Terry?

Okay, so why should I care?

But I am not giving a shoulder to cry on anymore, or support for those who won't fight for themselves, or a hug to those who enjoy being perpetual victims.

You coulda done it.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 9:27 AM
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Sorry, EM, I really liked the article when I read it the other day. I'm not sure I'm up for talking abortion with bob, though, or for violent revolt.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 9:30 AM
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No, I don't think I am either. Oh well!


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 9:33 AM
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I had a friend who was a clinic escort for a while. She got spit on a lot. I suggested she spit back, but she demurred.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 9:33 AM
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My main man set a high bar.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 9:53 AM
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The sole abortionist left in Mississippi

The article says he is one of two doctors at the clinic.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 11:20 AM
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9: "An abortionist at the sole abortion clinic in Mississippi" then.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 11:36 AM
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She got spit on a lot.

I once heard someone who had integrated lunch counters with the SNCC talk about how during their training they were told to regard being spit upon as if they'd won a medal for valor.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 12:10 PM
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While Bob's anger is entertaining (probably mostly to himself), I really don't need yet another fucking man telling women that we like being victims.

Fuck off, Bob, you fucking self-righteous fucknut.


Posted by: delagar | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 12:48 PM
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Another fine article undermined by a stupid error. There are several references to someone who lives close to the Mississippi Kentucky border. No she doesn't.


Posted by: Unimaginative | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 1:15 PM
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Maybe it's a metaphorical border.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 1:31 PM
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pause
actual comment on this article, in full:
"OLDER WISER 1 hour ago
I RESPONDED TO YOU BUT THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS MODERATED MY POST. APPAREMTLY THEY DO NOT LIKE FACTUAL INOFRMATION THAT SHOWS THEIR AGENDA IS WRONG."
play


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 3:41 PM
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15:

Read the article, read the comments, including two others by OLDER WISER. I'm always inclined to believe you, but I can't tell which comment this responded to, or what the post that was moderated would have said.

I can see many ways their agenda is wrong, but I'd like to know which one you're referring to.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 4:19 PM
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It's a remarkably humane and thoughtful article. I am extremely curious how it came to be published. I don't think of Esquire as publishing much stuff that takes them out on a limb like this.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 4:40 PM
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They've actually been quietly subversive in their reporting lately. That Market Basket story came from there as well.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 5:12 PM
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And they run Charles Pierce on their political blog.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 5:42 PM
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I read Pierce's feature story on Elizabeth Warren, very positive it was, while waiting for my car to be serviced today.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 6:07 PM
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I've never read it regularly, but at times in the past Esquire must have had a radical streak. In the Sixties and early Seventies the old radical intellectual Dwight Macdonald wrote a monthly column of film reviews, later collected by Da Capo Press.

I think today the concept of a "men's magazine," however hoary the particular example, is prejudicial.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 6:47 PM
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Ask the mineshaft Libertarian houseguests friends of my spouse I don't like them how to relate should I heist ondharging rent ante rand play pause drunk four roses brewer two bottle sport ' but still an asshole. I won't mention his hair because it's n ot important. Or am I the as some?


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 10:43 PM
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That's some classic urple-style commenting there.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 10:45 PM
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Or maybe Btock-style.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 10:46 PM
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hat doe tha sy i ont ven


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 10:49 PM
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Or maybe even Becks-style. I'm not sure how these are all considered to relate to each other these days.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08- 2-14 10:51 PM
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1. You have to be a little crazy, and a little bit of a contrarian to be an abortion provider.

2. There are some amazing people involved with clinics.

3. I love me some clinic escorts.

4. There is nothing wrong with getting an abortion. The push to say "I had an abortion" is important.

5. I hate to jinx myself, but our protestors haven't been too bad for the last 7 or 8 years.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 4:59 AM
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I want to know more about the unimportant libertarian hair.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 5:42 AM
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Guess the words,

" should I heist ondharging rent ante rand "

"Should I insist on charging rent? Ayn Rand!"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 7:52 AM
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This my be a style beyond Beck's or btock. Assome style.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 7:56 AM
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+a


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 7:56 AM
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About the only part that is really clear is the "Four Roses."


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 8:08 AM
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That was me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 8:08 AM
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22 belongs in TFA HoF.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 10:40 AM
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Certainly convinced me to try Four Roses.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 10:44 AM
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Does anybody know where Urple lives? If we don't hear from him for a few days we should probably alert the emergency services.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 10:45 AM
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OMG 22 is the best thing ever. urple 4evah!
15: I only meant to draw attention to the pitch-perfect "OPINIONATED GRANDMA" quality. the article is, also, excellent.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 10:48 AM
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I thought "abortionist" was deprecated?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 10:58 AM
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Alameida, thanks; to reiterate what I confessed the other day, I'm nonpareil as an earnest petit bourgeois, and would never have guessed where you were coming from.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 11:04 AM
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22: It's mole.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 11:04 AM
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Codcharging rent, obvs. "ante rand": urple is playing poker in Capetown.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 11:11 AM
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22 is amazing.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 11:41 AM
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I still can't fathom that level of drunkenness, since I would definitely hit "unconscious" first.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 11:51 AM
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With that attitude, you will.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 12:04 PM
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If I needed to get an abortion, I think I'd have it done at the hospital where my PCP is rather than at the Planned Parenthood Clinic. (I know that they do them and train the residents to do them.)

Even in MA, there are Catholic protesters outside the clinic. I've never seen anyone spit, though. But I've never seen anybody protesting at the hospital (other than some SEIU types who want to promote unionization of the staff there).


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 12:39 PM
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45: I think a lot of hospitals in the red states stay away from abortion for whatever reasons - or, as the OP describes in Mississippi, refuse to do them electively. And in some metro areas the only accessible hospitals are Catholic.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 12:42 PM
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45: They're not protesters, they're counselors. Just wanting to have a heart-to-heart talk with women who haven't thought things all the way through.


Posted by: Samuel Alito | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 12:46 PM
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46: I'm sure that's true. I'm just saying that now that we all have insurance and MassHealth here dose cover abortions, I personally would avoid the clinics because they are such easy targets. Clearly not possible for everyone.

I wonder whether Steward, the for-profit company which took over the Catholic Hospitals will start doing abortions.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 12:47 PM
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The Armed Kurdish Feminists Speak ...via New Inquiry


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 08- 3-14 1:06 PM
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