What is there to get? It's not like there was a uniform aesthetic. It was a way for MTV to package up animated shorts and etc. that had made the rounds at animation festivals. I mean, I loved it, but I also loved animation festivals.
Probably not one person in a hundred who watched Liquid Television on MTV knew there was such a thing as an "animation festival".
It was one of those weird windows into underground culture that were very hard to find in the heyday of MTV.
Huh. I mean, I guess I can understand that that's true but... huh. Y'all missed out on some epic Bill Plimpton shorts, that's for sure.
Would you believe I listened to mainstream pop and R&B in the 90s?
It is also possbile that you (heebie and ned) are too young for the heyday of animation festivals; the regular (non-Sick & Twisted) Spike & Mike's was really on its way out by the early '90s (history!). On the other hand, a lot of the classic Liquid Television shorts (like Frog Baseball) first got shown in Sick & Twisted, so.
Next you're going to say most people didn't have VHS collections of early computer animation demos rescored to synth-rock by Jan Hammer.
It's really a miracle I ever had a girlfriend.
I loved the original Aeon Flux shorts from Liquid TV. But I never watched them on MTV Liquid TV, I watched them on regular TV and DVD years afterwards.
TV series was ok and movie is some sort of morality tale of what a concept looks like after intense electroshock therapy.
I thought I was more Tweety-aged than Ned-aged.
Next you're going to say most people didn't have VHS collections of early computer animation demos rescored to synth-rock by Jan Hammer.
My dad has one of those, but the soundtrack is obscure grunge bands like Paw and Hammerbox.
Where can I find more? I love early computer animation.
Aeon Flux was the only part of Liquid TV that I watched. It was great. I heard the live action movie was a real let down, though.
Was the animated TV series distinct from the shorts that ran as a part of Liquid TV? In my mind they've blurred together.
Some classics I caught at an animation festival back in the late 80s:
It's kind of impressive how Tim Burton's aesthetic hasn't changes at all in 32 years.
Relatedly, Halbig will be heard en banc.
Aeon Flux was the only part of Liquid TV that I watched.
I love Richard Sala's work, although Invisible Hands isn't as good as his comics.
Next you're going to say most people didn't have VHS collections of early computer animation demos rescored to synth-rock by Jan Hammer.
After all these years, "Adam Powers, the Juggler" is still totally badass.
13: The shorts were five minutes or so and there were only six, the TV series were twenty minute episodes and there was a season, with similar animation.
The movie had lovingly crafted art design and effects, and the writing was awful on every level.
15: I'm deeply suspicious of this gambit. I wonder, if oral contraceptives were made available over-the-counter, would that give drug stores the option not to carry them at all? I mean, drug stores don't have an obligation to stock every over the counter medication that is on the market. Could they just say, "Oh, we don't sell that. Better luck elsewhere."?
15: In general, it's probably much cheaper for women to get prescription BC than OTC. They're saving insurers money at the cost of women having to pay more. I'm guessing, but I think BC with insurance is ballpark $10/3 months. That's maybe the cost of aspirin.
But yeah, I think having OTC birth control would be generally a good thing, and it would be great if there were a way for it to be cheap. It's certainly safe enough for OTC.
I loved Liquid TV and especially Aeon Flux. I caught some animation festival stuff back in the day, mostly at midnite movie theaters but not a lot. Liquid TV was a nice treat. And fwiw, Liquid TV --> Adult Swim.
11: It actually seems like they might all be up on archive.org
I didn't even have cable.
BC, 25: are you thinking that rather than true OTC, BC would end up behind the counter, like Sudafed? Wouldn't that have the same chance for trouble with pharmacists that prescriptions do? Or is there another category that would keep them out if general retail channels?
26: Huh, I didn't realize that was possible. Neat.
Just because a drug is available OTC doesn't mean you can't get a doctor's prescription for it.
Don't lots of prescription plans exclude (with a few specific exceptions, perhaps) drugs available OTC, whether they're prescribed or not?
Granted, Tillis and company are saying they want to trade one for the other, and that's not a trade I would take. But if a bunch of GOP office-holders go on the record supporting OTC status for birth control pills, that can only make it easier for President Hillary Clinton's FDA nominee to make it reality.
That sounds nice, though!
31: I just looked at BCBS, and they'll do it for two types of OTC, allergy and proton pump inhibitors. If prescribed, the insured gets them for the lowest copay. I bet BCP is one they'd love to do this for.
Don't lots of prescription plans exclude (with a few specific exceptions, perhaps) drugs available OTC, whether they're prescribed or not?
I think in general they're allowed to do that but the ACA requirements on covering preventive services override that practice.
36: That's right. Presumably that would also apply even to aspirin and some nutritional supplements (e.g. vitamin D and folic acid) for certain at-risk populations.
The Essential Health Benefits standards could also have the effect of mandating formulary coverage of certain OTC drugs in certain circumstances, though the mechanism is an indirect one.
Kermit, you are super helpful, but I must say, I've got a mental picture of you in a godforsaken basement government office with cracking plaster doing literally nothing but correcting internet misconceptions. "Obamacare Interwebs Communications Director" or something. With a red Swingline stapler.
38: Like this? In real life, I'm way less socially valuable than your mental picture would suggest. OTOH, I have a pretty sweet view from my comfortable office.
you know who else is good on health insurance stuff? Richard Mayhew at balloon-juice