What is up with that ubiquitous voice that all the recipe bloggers use?
Our renovation is almost done- baseboard radiator install, last coat on the floor, final touch up painting. Should be done ~Thursday. 13 weeks instead of the original estimate of 8.
1: No, that blogger has a totally different voice.
The kitchen sprayer is great. But I don't think I'll start microwaving raw chicken regardless of your advice.
It steams it. If you want roasted chicken or grilled or something, then definitely steer clear.
But the texture is fine - not rubbery or anything.
Can you smush the raw chicken into a small glass and microwave it into a cooked tube of meat?
7: Will you remove the bones first?
Because if you microwave a plastic bag filled with organ meat, you've crossed into sous-vide territory.
I don't quite know what recipe blogger voice you're talking about. I'm not sure if that is because I have internalized that voice as How Food Blogging Is Written, or if I don't read enough of that stuff. Do you have any examples?
Well there are the bloggers mentioned/linked in 1, for instance.
Ah, the link/mention distinction.
Link Mention Distinction Overdrive is my next band name.
I wasn't sure whether those bloggers were the type h-g was talking about.
11: The ones that come immediately to mind are Smitten Kitchen and Pioneer Woman Cooks. Here's another one that's got the same kind of voice.
17: well, tee bee aitch, neither am I.
I'm pretty sure the main way to tell is if they say "easy peasy".
(sorry, Smearcase)
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Hawaii was reading Hop On Pop and got to the page that reads "WET
GET
We all get wet."
She looked perplexed and said "But wet and git don't rhyme."
Aaaaaaaargh.
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The link in 18 is not quite as obnoxious as they come, because it lacks tons of ellipses, dramatic [sighs] and [shudders], mid-sentence declarations about the pickiness of the kids in italics, and so on. Maybe it's the over-embellishment that drives me nuts.
21: I've said this before, but teachers at the girls' school use "You get what you get and you don't get upset" or "You git what you git and you don't throw a fit" depending on their vernaculars since we live on the divide. But this is your chance to teach her code-switching!
I read "gitch" as "glitch". It's possible I have a problem reading 'l's for 'i's.
21 made me laugh. Then I felt bad about laughing.
You know, we've got both versions of 24 in rotation coming home from our preschool, too, and the get-git distinction never dawned on me.
25: I don't pronounce any Ls. I don't think I'm alone in this, though.
My secret fear is, of course, that I say git. When I went to college, there was a fuss made because I said "drawl" instead of "draw", and I cut it right out. Of course my kids all say drawl.
A southern accent can be charming, but my identity is firmly the outsider in the south.
You could teach your kids to say "yunz" instead of "y'all".
I don't think I've ever heard yunz and yinz spoken outloud.
21 A family story from when I was five and living in Oklahoma: apparently I started pronouncing things like the other kids at school and someone told me I sounded like "one of us" or something to that effect, so I went home and told my mother "I talk like a Christian now."
Our day care sticks with "you receive what you receive and stay reticent w/r/t any peeve" which I guess I dunno is regional
A coworker of mine puts an epenthetic L in "both."
Over the last fifteen years I've come to find southern accents weirdly comforting. I met someone with a strong one in Portland two weeks ago and took a liking to her for no other reason than I wanted to hear her talk (though she turned out to be nice.) Me, I maintain that I sometimes lapse into southern intonation patterns but not phonetics.
Sometimes I have a southern accent when I'm drunk. No need to examine that closely.
31: Call my cell and I'll have the bar shout it at you.
33: With words like that no wonder your day care is so expensive.
Shoulda known we were in for it when Zardoz's first word was "propitiative".
I sometimes notice myself saying "git".
I think maybe this woman is more the food blogger style h-g is thinking of. (It's awful.)
A friend who grew up in Arkansas just realized (at her kid's 1st birthday party), that the third verse of "If you're happy and you know it" is rendered as "shout hooray" in Massachussetts rather than the "say amen" she'd grown up with.
They sort of rhyme with each other if you use the Hebrew pronunciation of "amen" rather than the English.
I guess the rhyme is "need a way to show it."
Does "clap your hands" rhyme? I feel as if I'm about to discover I'm freakishly mispronouncing something.
43 to 44. Or 42. I don't know any Hebrew.
I'm glad that I have now googled the lyrics to "if you're happy and you know it".
What other Boney M songs are good besides Rasputin? I'm bored and fucking with the jukebox.
40.last: Only a few years ago did I realize that the last line of "Head and Shoulders, Knees and Toes" is not sung by most people as "Clap for Jesus!" (Do most people sing "How I love you"? That is what we've settled on with Zardoz for now.)
Although they were born and grew up here neither of my kids has a noticeable—to me—Chicago accent. General Midwestern, yes.
Aside from the pronunciation of the name of the city itself, locally with an "a" so flat I make a face trying to match the sound, the tell is diphthongs. To my ear, I'm sure not to natives', the second vowel in a diphthong can't be heard at all. So theater sounds to me like theeter, and ruin sounds like rune.
47: I like a lot of "Nightflight to Venus", which is the only album I really know. "Painter Man", "Nightflight to Venus", "He was a Steppenwolf".
Painter Man is a goofy goddamned song, but I assume since we're dealing with Boney M you already knew that.
I think it's "Head and shoulders, knees and toes" that has a totally different tune in the US compared with Canada. London Bridge is Falling Down in Canada?
The Boney M Christmas album is great.
Everybody is playing goofy songs. I probably won't even notice when they come on.
Nope. Really, really fucking obvious.
90% of the lyrics were "painter man."
I thought it went from "clap your hands" to "stomp your feet" to... whatever random action came to mind next. Blink your eyes? Touch your toes? I don't remember it very well but I didn't think "amen" or "hooray" was part of it when I was a kid.
The other one did play without me noticing.
You should see if they have any Newcleus.
48: wait, what?!
Head, shoulders, knees and toes.
Head, shoulders, knees and toes.
Mouth and ears and eyes and nose,
Head, shoulders, knees and toes.
57 is more-or-less what I remember, but shout hooray seems perfectly reasonable.
61: ahh, it's a good song, but everybody knows it. I'm out of ideas.
Link in 40 is the ubiquitous voice. There's a few recipes I've pinned on Pinterest that make me really cringe worse than 40; I'll see if I can find one.
Ha! We deliberately passed on the pull out sprayer because I have always had sinks with them and never ever ever used them and hate when they get old and don't snap into place all the way. But actually the current sink we have is more shaped in a way where the sprayer would have been useful than any previous sink I've had, so ha ha on me. (It's fine.)
40: I'm uncomfortable with being made aware that "chia" exists as a thing outside of informercials for the eponymous pet.
I couldn't bring myself to read all of the link in 40! Annoying mannerism hell!
When I think of writing that isn't mannered, I think of... well, actually I don't think of neb nosflow.
Ooh, Moby, do they have "The Mexican" by Jellybean?
It was good, but not as good as the original!
Only in retrospect did Kath realize this must have been the moment they resolved to come for her exclamation points.
Didn't Jellybean date or produce for or dance with Madonna?
71: that's a good one.
Also "I O U" by Freez.
Or wait! "A Little Bit of Jazz", Nick Straker Band. Fuck yeah.
Anyway, I played that song. I'm not sure I'll last until it plays. I think "painter man" inspired people to put in their own selections.
I guess Jellybean played without me noticing either. I was distracted by a car wreck outside. Second stupid wreck I've seen today.
The magic of Boney M. Maybe they'll all be Milli Vanilli, keeping with the Frank Farian theme.
Somebody played "sledgehammer". I think they either won or lost.
Mobers, if there's anything by Kid Creole and the Coconuts on there, that's your choice.
The bathroom counter gives me orders.
Was the better half's pick for movie night and so The Day The Earth Stood Still and his realization I cannot handle suspense. Am cowering out of the salon, quaking.
85: Mostly music to play. Unlike my neighbor's dog. The dog is all about the purification of society by murder.
But are they going to save tgat annoying little shit bobby before they blow incinerate us?!???!! I can't take it.
The dog is all about the purification of society by murder.
That seems like an attitude generally more associated with cats.
Hey, if we're talking kitchens... that grinder thing that lives under the kitchen sink? What is that all about? You USAians are crazy.
Random thoughts: Seattle is a nice city and Queen Anne is really nice. Not as many stupidly big cars as I remember seeing elsewhere in the US. Nobody has gardens of any size. Food is cheap, except cheese is OMG expensive. Everything has sugar and / or milk in it (the latter being notable as Gusty the Younger is allergic to it.)
Mind you I am treasuring the creases behind the knees of the "robot" when seen walking from behind.
91.2: Given the usual symptoms of lactose intolerance, "Gusty" seems aptly named.
Haven't used the garbage disposal yet -- not even sure how to operate it -- but will try tomorrow for the full cultural experience.
As for milk allergy, teo is right in 95 but Mobes is onto something in 94. He does get rather aromatic when we slip up. Hopefully he'll grow out of it, because it's a goddamn PITA and the kid is developing a horrendous sweet tooth from all the sugary soy substitutes he consumes.
Haven't used the garbage disposal yet -- not even sure how to operate it -- but will try tomorrow for the full cultural experience.
There'll be a switch on the wall somewhere nearby (looks like a lightswitch) that turns it on. You have to be sure to run water through it while it's grinding. They clog up easily with anything too fibrous so you have to be careful what you put down it.
All your music suggestions sucked, by the way.
Well, Boney M sucks too. What did you expect?
99: Let the water run a bit after you've stopped grinding. Maybe fifteen seconds. Also, don't put hands or nice silverware down there.
I once put a turkey carcass (post dinner) down a garbage disposal. The grown-ups were unhappy.
I bet the dog was unhappy as well. What is a dog if not a portable garbage disposal unit?
I was always told not to give chicken bones to a dog. I figured a turkey was basically a big chicken.
"that grinder thing that lives under the kitchen sink?"
There used to be a monkey to play it but he ate the rat poison that was under there.
I don't know how people feed kids cereal if they don't have a garbage disposal. Kids never eat everything in the bowl so you're always left with this soggy mess and if it can't go down the sink, people put it in the garbage? Doesn't that make your trash can smell like rotten milk and leak out the bottom of the bag?
Yeah, that's right. Cooked bones fracture easily. The shards can pierce the intestines which is bad news. This comes via the resident vet.
We have a worm farm, and all our food scraps apart from meat go in there. In took some false starts to get the thing going, but we're not at the level where they easily get through all our food waste. I guess if you don't really have a garden, which seems to be more typical here in the US, a worm farm / composting isn't so viable. I know some places in London have separate food waste collection services.
(No doubt all the wormies will die while we're away, just like they did last time.)
Yeah, there are certainly plenty of people in the US who compost, but you do have to garden for it to make sense, and gardening isn't as ubiquitous here as it sounds like it is in the UK.
I was under the impression that apartments I've lived in with dishwashers actually required the garbage disposal for proper dishwasher functioning, but Google suggests not, or at least that this may have been the case for older dishwashers but is unlikely with newer ones.
It turns out if you use the word "dishwasher" three times in rapid succession it starts to seem like it really isn't a word after all.
I think that's true for any word, actually.
One hint about garbage disposals: they almost always clog on you. The last couple of times people said, trust me, JMo, it'll be fine, were 1) the most recent Unfoggedcon, which ended with plungers in the kitchen sink and 2) Xmas at Blandings's parents, which ended with everyone mopping up turkey-scented bilge in the basement. It is safest to treat garbage disposals as decorative elements, no more.
C'mon, guys. Quite stuffing turkeys down there. With soft foods in reasonable quantities they do fine.
It turns out if you use the word "dishwasher" three times in rapid succession it starts to seem like it really isn't a word after all.
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It turns out if you use the word "dishwasher" three times in rapid succession it starts to seem like it really isn't a word after all be onomatopoeic.
FTFY
I think it's "Head and shoulders, knees and toes" that has a totally different tune in the US compared with Canada.
This must be why heebie is confused in 60. I grew up with the London Bridge tune version. I don't think it's a US-Canada split.
The link in 40 reads as though there is a LOL! after every second or third sentence.
The middle part of Chicka Chicka Boom Boom doesn't work in MA.
Mamas and papas and uncles and aunts
Hug their little dears and dust their pants
For those of you not in MA, aunts pronounced like onts:
Mamas and papas and uncles and aunts
Hug their little dears and... adjust their fonts?
I don't know how people feed kids cereal if they don't have a garbage disposal. Kids never eat everything in the bowl so you're always left with this soggy mess and if it can't go down the sink, people put it in the garbage? Doesn't that make your trash can smell like rotten milk and leak out the bottom of the bag?
Drain the milk, pour the cereal into the food bin. And the bags I use (cornstarch derived) are waterproof (though thin enough that punctures can happen pretty easily.
I've never clogged a garbage disposal, but I have cleaned out ones that my mom has clogged many times.
We don't have one here and don't really miss it yet, but Zardoz doesn't eat cereal yet, so.
I've only ever clogged it when trying to grind a large amount of potato peels. I have jammed it a couple times when a screw fell in- both times I was close to buying a new one, actually did once but fixed the old before installing. The magic red reset switch and reversal screw on the bottom saved it both times.
It is safest to treat garbage disposals as decorative elements, no more.
It's not to my taste, but I guess at least it's an aesthetic.
Anyway, 124.1 is my experience. Our current disposal seems to handle peels well enough, I think because it's a straight shot down to the main soil stack, but I've clogged other disposals with peels.
I love the garbage disposal. Excuse me, in-sink-erator. The biggest reason is that when you're doing dishes by hand, little bits of flotsam and jetsam collect, and if you don't have a disposal, you have to scoop them out by hand from the drain and throw them out in the garbage, and that is gross. Over the summer we were doing dishes in the utility sink and I dearly missed the insinkerator.
if you don't have a disposal, you have to scoop them out by hand from the drain and throw them out in the garbage
We have a drain catch. Works fine, not really gross.
We have a drain catch. Works fine, not really gross.
There may not be full accord in our household on this matter.
Just let the monkey eat whatever gets trapped in there.
There may not be full accord in our household on this matter.
Are you secret-pooping?
I only once ever lived with a dispose-all, and didn't find it especially need-fulfilling. But I am with either Blume or Zardoz about the grossness of cleaning out the drain catch. Not horrible, but I don't love it.
Its nice when the sink back up with water because its draining slow because of all the crap in the drain, you can just flick a switch to grind everything up and then the sink will just drain out right quick.
I mean, I would be happy enough to have a disposal. But there are higher priorities, like a microwave and a range hood.
Jackmo carefully omits to tell us what she put down the disposal.
I've clogged my range hood more often than I've clogged my disposal. You know how hard it is to clean the grease out of those things?
As a teenage boy I was extremely squeamish about kitchen garbage. I found scraping plates or clearing sinks nauseating. Naturally, cleaning up after meals was very often my job, made worse by the time it took me to get around to it, and by how the cheap pots we had then stuck regularly, and how much residue there was on everything. We had disposals but it didn't help that much.
I take satisfaction in how this has worn off, and I'm hardly squeamish at all about this, or in fact much worse such as fixing sewer drains. I'm also a much better dish and pot washer, usually able to get it done within a few minutes of eating.
KP, and watching how good the Army cooks were about things like that was a watershed in my young life.
There is a scene in James Jones' From Here to Eternity where the mess sergeant, Maylon Stark, needs a large baking pan Pruitt on KP has been able to finish. Stark comes and does it himself with an artistry and efficiency Pruitt finds himself admiring.
I read that after I'd been in the Army, and was struck by how I'd had the exact same experience/impression.
138: Dude, are you running a deep fryer or something? I don't think I even know anyone who's clogged a range hood.
I've clogged my range hood more often than I've clogged my disposal. You know how hard it is to clean the grease out of those things?
The filter parts of mine come out and go right through the dishwasher.
My dishwasher only opens at one end.
Yeah, the filters come out, but there's grease dripping from the fan and it's become very inefficient at sucking air out. I tried wiping whatever I could reach but didn't really improve. Maybe it's not clogged, just something wrong with the fan.
I worked at a camp where they had one of these in the kitchen, I've always wanted one. It's like two minutes to clean all your dishes.
I don't even HAVE a range hood. This isn't a humblebrag, though, just the driving reason beyond aesthetics that we need to renovate the damn kitchen.
We have a downdraft thing. It's not hooked up right, so it doesn't draw like it should, but it still works somewhat.
I've clogged my range hood more often than I've clogged my disposal. You know how hard it is to clean the grease out of those things?
And so, shunned by all, the low-hanging fruit withered and died.
The mechanical hog!
In the realm of rot** discoveries, "yes" in rot16 is "oui".
I don't understand disposal ubiquity either. When we had our plates scraped by dogs and our scraps went to the pigs and chickens we still had a sink disposal. We have one now because the plumber wouldn't install a dishwasher without one, but it's an Asko dishwasher, would it have expected a grinder in its home country? Puzzling. A perforated-steel sink strainer and a compost bucket that fits in the sink works for me; grinders only clog and flood, in my experience.
Seattle has thorough-for-the-US compost collection (surely on Queen Anne too?), with a point of pride that our gardeners and the compost utility together identified a germination-stopping, hot-compost-surviving herbicide and made it illegal in county limits. Er, bit of wounded city pride there. Now I want to have Yawnoc and the Breezes over to ours in Capitol Hill to see the gardens, though alas mine is post-renters and pre-renovation. And nothing, not even the most loved allotments, looks very good right now after the fresh gale.
Speaking of that, Yawnoc? Breeze? Still interested in a QA-early-evening-hangout, or is the problem that Yawnoc is only free when the kids are asleep? I don't think I have either of your email addresses. Er, can a blog manager forward my email to them?
149.1: No. I have a Asko sans disposal, and its bottom-of-the-tub filters work fine. Or at least they did until the circuit board fried a second time and I declined to pay $500 to fix it.
The Insinkerator fails to live up to the promise of its name. It should work like a little blast furnace.
We have a fan which deposits smoke in the middle of the kitchen, about 18" away, instead of directly over the stove. I really do not see the point.
The Insinkerator fails to live up to the promise of its name.
Where is yours installed?
The first time I read Chicka Chicka Boom Boom, I took it out of the library, and got a copy that had fallen apart and been taped together in the wrong order. I was so confused.
That was approximately last year, to be clear. I didn't realize the concept until after I'd pondered it awhile.
Also it's possible I'll end up moving to a house that can't have a disposal. I'm less worried about the grossness--for the most part--and more that I'll continually let the garbage go down the drain.
21: I discovered that I must say raccoon strangely because one of the baby's books has raccoon rhyming with moon. I say it more like ra-cun. But as my husband loves to point out, until he corrected me when I was 25, I also thought that two different animals existed: the possum and the o-possum, so I guess I'm just bad when it comes to pronouncing animal names.
91 et seq. Don't any of you have a septic system?
If you have a septic system you don't have a garbage disposal. What you have instead is composting and the experience that every time a plumber or septic guy comes to your house he asks "Do you have a garbage disposal?" "No." "Good! It'll destroy your septic system."
You don't want to destroy your septic system. It costs a year of college to replace.
"This hole, in which I poop, costs $25,000 dollars. Imagine how much money I have to spend on a kitchen."
The house in the country with dogs and pigs and all had a septic, and *also* a disposal, but it was built in the (spirit of the) 1970s and the disposal was far from the dumbest thing about it. Great light, nearly unheatable.
What I mostly remember about disposals is that everyone is supposed to know they can't handle spinach stems. I didn't know.
Research! My local chain grocery now does have "Pumpkin pie spice" in a little jar instead of "Apple pie spice".
The flag, Mom, and pumpkin pie.